80-96-list-digest Wednesday, June 10 1998 Volume 02 : Number 209



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
FTE 80-96 - RE: Synthetic swap
RE: FTE 80-96 - 86 F250 4x4 Cam Bearing spin
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
FTE 80-96 - Live axle front ends
FTE 80-96 - Ranger performance
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ranger performance
FTE 80-96 - RE: transmission coolers
FTE 80-96 - RE: 7.3 Diesel Enhancement & O/U Drive
FTE 80-96 - RE: 7.3 Enigne Enhancements
FTE 80-96 - Update on the California Get Together.
FTE 80-96 - Re: '96 F-250
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: '96 F-250
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
FTE 80-96 - '91 F-150 6cyl
Re: FTE 80-96 - Lubricants
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
Re: FTE 80-96 - RE: AIR pumps
Re: FTE 80-96 - nice little poem
Re: FTE 80-96 - A/C Woes
Re: FTE 80-96 - '91 F-150 6cyl
FTE 80-96 - RE: 7.3L Enhancements
Re: FTE 80-96 - '91 F-150 6cyl

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:08:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ben Havens
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....

> Date: Tue, 09 Jun 1998 17:15:49 -0600
> From: Ryan Dorman
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
>
> Check again.
>
> Chad Royse wrote:
>
> > Hey man,
> > Relax, I'm not trying to slap you around. I'm merely saying, I think the 97 HD's
> > have a twin I-beam front end as well. Ok?
> >
> > Chad

I'm new here and don't want to step on any toes, but at the risk of
getting clobbered by Mr. Dorman: 1997 F250s, HD or not, did come with
I-beam/TTB front ends. They've had it since '80 (right?) right up until
the new Super Duty style pickups (which are bad-ass IMHO), whatever model
year they are. (99?) The only Ford with a solid front axle in '97 was
the 350. Isn't this common knowledge?? (on a Ford truck list! :)

>
> So sue me...
>
> > PS Your last post was on Friday, I replied to it monday. That's four days short of a
> > week. Just a FYI.

Careful, your attitude is showing :)

Ben Havens
bhavens online.emich.edu


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:28:16 -0400
From: Chad Royse
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....

Wow you got a poor attitude. Anyway, nobody sneaked into my garage last night and welded
my my front-end into one solid axle. I think a truck of this side could benefit from a
solid front axle, though. Apparently Ford thought so too, being as the 99 F250 SD has
one. I was also talking (e-mailing) with some people, one of which has a 95 F250 4x4 PS.
I don't know this first hand, admittedly, but he said his 95 is a twin I-beam as well.

Does anyone on the list know how far back the Twin I-Beam suspension goes back for the 250
HD 4x4's? I'm curious now. I though maybe it was just a '97 thing. But apparently the
F250HD's haven't had a solid front axle in a while.

Chad

Ryan Dorman wrote:

> Check again.
>
> So sue me...
>
> > PS Your last post was on Friday, I replied to it monday. That's four days short of a
> > week. Just a FYI.
>



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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 08:48:46 -0600
From: "Smeins, Larry"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Synthetic swap

Casey,
Mobil 1 was tested in Alaska during its development. One of its design
goals was better low temp performance. I knew a guy that was involved
in the testing of Mobil 1 in Alaska. The tests were run on Plymouth V8s
in the early 60s and he said that at the 40,000 mile tear down the hone
marks were still visible on the cylinder walls. Agreed Mobil 1 is
pricey, slightly less than $4.00/qt., but I double the factory change
mileage when using it which balances out the higher cost. You will find
those that disagree with me on the extended changes but it works for me.
I presently have two gas engines with Mobil 1, one has 300k miles on it
and the other 220k. Neither has had any internal engine repair. The
220k car needs no additional oil between 12k changes and the 300k car
burns about 1 qt/2k. Both cars were purchased used at about 60k and
switched to Mobil 1. If your truck does not burn oil at a rate that
makes adding between changes overly expensive with Mobil 1 I recommend
using it. The extended and stable viscosity range of synthetic will be
an advantage in your severe weather.

I don't use synthetic in my diesel. Mobil 1 is not rated to the level
my Powerstroke requires and I don't think synthetic diesel oil will
negate the effects of carbon build up in the oil so extended changes
become questionable. Diesels are different than gas engines.


Larry

>Date: Tue, 9 Jun 1998 14:39:47 -0800
>From: "Casey Vandor"
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - Synthetic swap

>I finally did go to town and look at the cost of swithching to Mobil
One for
>Fairbanks this year. It was extremely expensive. I was told at NAPA
that
>5W-30 non-synthetic would do fine for my truck up there in the winter.
>Would it do ok, or should I go all out and get the synthetic? BTW
since I
>never have used synthetic, would I get 5W-30 in the synthetic or a
straight
>winter rating like 20?? Don't know anything about synthetics....
obvioulsly

>Thanks
>Casey

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 07:55:25 -0700
From: Michael Wray
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - 86 F250 4x4 Cam Bearing spin

OK..... I would probably buy the Ford version of the Suburban... But
1) I cannot afford new vehicle Fords prices
2) I have yet to see one. :(

Don't get me wrong.... If it was just me and not the bunch of us.... I
would be sticking with my F250. :) But I need the room for the family.

Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian J. Hedemark II [SMTP:chris yonderway.com]
>
> I think you're looking at this from the wrong perspective; God was
> trying to stop you from making a terrible mistake by trading your Ford
> in on a Ch*vy. :)
>
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:20:52 -0500
From: Noel & Inga Hupe
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....

hi there,
i'm looking for a web site that has info regarding 1988 ford econoline
350....conversion van would be nice..thanks, Noel



At 10:28 AM 6/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow you got a poor attitude. Anyway, nobody sneaked into my garage last
night and welded
>my my front-end into one solid axle. I think a truck of this side could
benefit from a
>solid front axle, though. Apparently Ford thought so too, being as the 99
F250 SD has
>one. I was also talking (e-mailing) with some people, one of which has a
95 F250 4x4 PS.
>I don't know this first hand, admittedly, but he said his 95 is a twin
I-beam as well.
>
>Does anyone on the list know how far back the Twin I-Beam suspension goes
back for the 250
>HD 4x4's? I'm curious now. I though maybe it was just a '97 thing. But
apparently the
>F250HD's haven't had a solid front axle in a while.
>
>Chad
>
>Ryan Dorman wrote:
>
>> Check again.
>>
>> So sue me...
>>
>> > PS Your last post was on Friday, I replied to it monday. That's four
days short of a
>> > week. Just a FYI.
>>
>
>
>
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>
>

Noel Hupe

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 09:43:01 -0600
From: Dave Mcdonald
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....

Well, I have a '90 F250HD and it doesn't have a solid front end, although it might if I ever
get the $$$ :)

Dave McDonald


Chad Royse wrote:

> Wow you got a poor attitude. Anyway, nobody sneaked into my garage last night and welded
> my my front-end into one solid axle. I think a truck of this side could benefit from a
> solid front axle, though. Apparently Ford thought so too, being as the 99 F250 SD has
> one. I was also talking (e-mailing) with some people, one of which has a 95 F250 4x4 PS.
> I don't know this first hand, admittedly, but he said his 95 is a twin I-beam as well.
>
> Does anyone on the list know how far back the Twin I-Beam suspension goes back for the 250
> HD 4x4's? I'm curious now. I though maybe it was just a '97 thing. But apparently the
> F250HD's haven't had a solid front axle in a while.
>
> Chad



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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:17:51 -0600
From: "Dave Resch"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Live axle front ends

>From: Ryan Dorman
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
>
>Check again.

Yo Ryan, Chad, et al:

>From 1980 to 1997, all F250 4x4s were equipped w/ the TTB front end, both
standard and HD models, regular cab, Supercab, and even the 96-97 crew
cabs. The only Ford 4x4 trucks factory-equipped w/ a live axle front
suspension after 1980 were F350s from 1986 to 1997 model years.

The only front suspension option available from the factory from 1992 to
1997 was the "heavy duty" spring set (included in some Snow Plow option
packages) for both TTB F250s and live axle F350s with regular cab. The
"heavy duty" front suspension option was not available w/ Supercab or crew
cab trucks. The "heavy duty" suspension option increased the front axle
weight rating by 500 lbs, for both TTB and live axle, and it was separate
from the vehicle's overall HD weight rating. That is, you could get an
F250 HD (or F350) regular cab w/out the "heavy duty" front suspension.

If you have seen any late model F250 before the 1999 Super Duty w/ a live
axle front end, it was a conversion, not a factory option (or it may just
be some wise guy w/ an F250 badge on an F350!).

All of the new 1999 Super Duty 4x4 trucks, F250-up, are equipped w/ live
axle front suspensions.

Dave R. (M-block devotee)


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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 12:51:17 EDT
From: Natedog199 aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ranger performance

I'm looking for some information on headers and performance parts for Rangers.
Someone posted a listing about headers for a 3.0 V6 awhile back. I want to
know who makes them and how to contact them.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 10:24:21 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ranger performance

JBA and Borla (cat back) are both available for your rig

Bob

At 12:51 PM 6/10/98 EDT, you wrote:
>I'm looking for some information on headers and performance parts for
Rangers.
>Someone posted a listing about headers for a 3.0 V6 awhile back. I want to
>know who makes them and how to contact them.
>Any information would be appreciated.
>Thanks
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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 13:13:02 -0500
From: m-sands juno.com (mike sands)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: transmission coolers

Any recommendations / advice on transmission coolers for a 92 F150 with
E40D ?
Thanks

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Date: Wed, 10 Jun 1998 11:22:02 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: 7.3 Diesel Enhancement & O/U Drive

> Pete:
>
> Sounds like my situation... Bought my '88 F250 4x4 (Supercab, longbed)
> from a buddy in OR. I've been getting about 13 mpg but I do use the
> truck as a daily driver on the freeway a lot, and yep turns around
> 3000 at 65-70 mph (you know this is killing the mileage). If I could
> get it down around 2000 or so on the freeway I'm sure fuel consumption
> and engine wear would be greatly improved.
>
> Given what I've learned I want to stay with the C6 because it is such
> a 'bullet proof' tranny (probably the best Ford used) which leads me
> to using a Over/Under Drive unit. At this point I am pretty much sold
> on the Gear Vendors O/U Drive setup, I've been looking at it since I
> bought the truck in '96 just haven't bitten the bullet yet (probably
> later this summer -- need to replace the sagging front suspension
> > first). Their model 3D1356 unit is designed for 4x4 Fords with the BW
> 1356 transfer case (which ours have). Here is what their Spec Sheet
> says:
>
> 3D1356 BW 1356 Transfer Case with slip yoke
> Replaces 6-3/4" tail
> for '87 and newer Ford pickups with either C6, T-19 or ZF
> transmission
>
> When I called the guys a Gear Vendors to talk about it they said that
> I could come down and test drive one of their trucks that has the unit
> installed on it to see how it really handles on the road (I live only
> about 30 minutes form them here in the San Diego area). I am planning
> on doing it this summer when I'm closer to being ready to do
> something.
>
> My post was really a function of thinking that I should at least look
> at an air ram and/or turbo unit as additional option for increasing
> mpg. By the way I did talk to a guy at Banks yesterday (calling ATS
> today) and their Sidewinder Turbo unit sound great, but again $$$$$
> -- rather spent the money on the O/U unit first then might revisit.
> Might still consider upgrading air intake system depending on cost.
> The more air the better on these rigs.
>
Any different info / ideas.

> Steve Faust
'88 F-250






> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Kraus [SMTP:Pete_Kraus Emory.Org]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 1998 3:25 PM
> To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
> Cc: Steve Faust
> Subject: 7.3 ....

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