80-96-list-digest Saturday, June 6 1998 Volume 02 : Number 203



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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 Performance - Why???
Re: FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 Performance - Why???
Re: FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure
FTE 80-96 - Gauges-wasn't he on Emergency51?
FTE 80-96 - RE:Gauges and the IVR
FTE 80-96 - Oil guage really just an idiot light?

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:48:07 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 Performance - Why???

Chris Hedemark wrote:

> Oh my.... you sound like that guy I saw at the tractor pull who was
> chewing tobacco *AND* smoking at the same time for the love of
> tobacco... really, without getting all bent out of shape and trying
> to turn this into a flame war, think about what kind of an $$ you're
> making out of yourself here.
>

ME!!! get a clue...If you had no intention of starting a flame war, you wouldn't have typed
this msg.
And btw I quit chewing 2 years ago

> Thanks for contributing to the stereotype of pickup truck drivers.

If you are worried about a stereotype look yourself up under yuppy moron.

FLAME ON...
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58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6(not for long) 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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KC7YPJ, Ryan Dorman
QTH: Victor ID, grid# DN431c
ICQ #3834602
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 20:55:02 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 Performance - Why???

Gene Ball wrote:

> If you kidds can't play nice then stay away from each other!!!!!!!

I planned on playing nice, just as soon as I got the beef off my mind, then I get multiple
flames from the guy, thats the end of that plan.

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58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6(not for long) 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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KC7YPJ, Ryan Dorman
QTH: Victor ID, grid# DN431c
ICQ #3834602
kc7ypj pdt.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/Baja/Dunes/5496

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:41:56 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure

Pat,
Sounds like you got some good advice so far. IF - IF you find out you
do need to replace the pump, you probably will have to raise the
motor. It may look like you have a ton of room, but by the time the
front of the pan clears the crankshaft (remember you'll have to tilt
the back down at an angle to clear the bellhousing, too) it'll
probably get hung up. But make sure you follow the previous advice
FIRST.
Later,
Randy (Brew)

pat daniels wrote:
>
> I have an 88 F350 4x4 that the oil pressure gauge reads on the lower third
> or the gauge. It is above the 2 hash marks on the low side but usually
> sits between the first hash mark and the middle. Is this normal for a 351?
> The truck has 25,000 miles on it. I am thinkin' of swapping in a new oil
> pump and thought I could do it by just dropping the oil pan and putting in
> the new pump in but the Haynes manual says I have to loosen up the motor
> mounts and jack the engine up a little. It looks like I have plenty of
> room to do the job without having to jack the engine up since the truck is
> a F350 4x4. Anyone ever done this or offer any advice? One last thing, is
> the 351 in my truck a Windsor or Cleveland? It is the stock motor and is
> fuel injected if that helps.
> Thanks
> Pat Daniels
> Kodiak, Alaska
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:52:35 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Gauges-wasn't he on Emergency51?

Tim,
Check out Summit Racing and Jeg's Racing for gauges, they both have
free catalogs:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.summit.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.jegs.com
Later,
Randy (Brew)

Tim Clevenger wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Any suggestions on a place to look for gauges? I have an '86 Ranger with speedometer in the right circle and four-position cluster (temp, oil, fuel, charge) in the left circle and would like to replace them with something more accurate.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a tach that fits in the left circle, a speedometer with higher rating than 85 mph in the right circle and fuel, charge, oil pressure, water temp, oil temp, vacuum and boost gauges along the top or bottom of the dash. Since I have a bench seat and stick shift, I could also built a center console if needed. TIA for any advice.
>
> Tim
>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 09:58:16 -0600
> From: "Dave Resch"
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure
>
> Factory instrument panel oil gauges are barely more informative than an
> idiot light. The only useful information you can gather from the factory
> gauge is if you've noticed a recent *dramatic* change in the oil pressure
> as indicated by the gauge. Otherwise, if it's not on the bottom Low end of
> the gauge, you're probably ok.
>
> I would recommend connecting a decent quality mechanical oil gauge, if you
> really want to know what your engine's oil pressure is.
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 22:53:02 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE:Gauges and the IVR

Walt-
IVR is mounted on the back side of the instrument panel. Pull the panel
and its right there. Looks like a small relay or something. They run
about $24 at the dealer as I recall. I got my last one at a bone yard
for $2. Works great. Your symptoms sound like what mine was doing. After
replacing the IVR, I filled up the gas tank and adjusted the IVR to put
the fuel guage needle just above the Full line. At that point, all of
the guages seemed to read correctly. Easy to do. Adjusting the IVR is a
bit trial and error, but not difficult.

Jim.

Walt wrote:
"Jim, I was going to mention the IVR also. I notice that my gauges
either
read o.k., all high or all low. I've been considering replacing the
IVR
because occasionally all the gauges will peg for about 1-2 seconds then
return to normal. My 85 has done this since new. Where is the IVR on an
85
f150? Cost? Easy t replace? Thanks Walt"
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Houston, Texas

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 23:00:30 -0500
From: Jim Cannon
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Oil guage really just an idiot light?

When did Ford change the wiring of the oil pressure guage to really just
be an idiot light? What model year is the first with this setup?


Dave wrote:
"Folks have been asking about the indicated low oil pressure on their
motors. Well, don't know if it is common knowledge, but at some time in
the
last ten years, Ford hooked the oil pressure gage to an oil pressure
switch, not a pressure sender. So the gage always reads the same thing,
always, assuming the engine is running and the key is on!. If it is
varying, then I would suspect a problem with the voltage regulator on
the
dash, or more likely, a loose connection on the oil pressure switch
(driver
side down near the oil filter on 302's). Been there, done that. My son's
'88 F150 had that problem.
Dave"


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Houston, Texas

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