80-96-list-digest Friday, June 5 1998 Volume 02 : Number 200



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - 460 oil pan - will it fit???
FTE 80-96 - C-6 fixed, cool!
FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 performance...
FTE 80-96 - Helms - where to buy?
Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 F250 4x4 problems
Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....
FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 5.8 mods...
FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure
FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure

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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:03:25 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 460 oil pan - will it fit???

Stacey,
If I understand the question correctly, you are going to REPLACE the
cars' 460 oil pan, with a trucks' 460 oil pan thereby making the deep
part of the pan in the rear of the motor to clear the trucks'
crosmember, right? If so, then how will you clear the oil pump and
pickup in the motor??? I don't know anything about 460's, but I
assume the dipstick enters into the bottom end of the block and not
the side of the pan. Maybe the pan you'd use (supposing you figure
out the pump/pickup thing) would have a dipstick mount on the side (my
351W is like that) therefore you'd just have to tap & plug the
original hole.
Hope this helps, be sure to let me know
Later,
Randy (Brew)

> Stacy Fisher wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have a question about a 460 engine that I am hoping someone can
> help me with. I have a 1984 Ford F-150 4x4 that I am currently in
> the process putting a 460 into. The 460 motor that I have came out
> of a 1978 Mercury Marquis. Because the engine that I have came out
> of a car, the oil pan is wrong. As I'm sure you all know, in the
> car, the oil pan is shallow in the rear and deep in the front, and
> for the truck it is the exact opposite. The problem is that the oil
> diptick is located on the front of the 460, and when I replace the
> oil pan to put the motor into the truck, the diptick will no longer
> be sticking into the deep end of the pan like it should. Does
> anyone know of a solution to fix this problem?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Stacy Fisher
>
> "'84 Ford F-150 4x4, Ford Trucks Built Ford Tough"
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:06:36 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - C-6 fixed, cool!

Pat,
Glad to hear you got it, trust me, been there, done that!!! NO CUP
and NO BEARINGS, though (on one of the four, others were fine)!!! Had
no idea you could make dust out of those things!! Nice how easy a fix
that is, isn't it? And how cheap! win/win Woo Hoo!!!
Later,
Randy (Brew)

pat daniels wrote:
>
> Thanks to the readers who responded to my tranny problem. Turns out it was
> a bad u-joint. I mean real bad, broken cup and toasted needle bearings.
> No more clunk, go figure.....
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:16:24 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300I-6 performance...

SMACK!!! I could have had a V-8!!! :)

Gene Ball wrote:
>
> Ryan I will admit it did get a little out of hand $$$$.
> At first I was just adding the intake,carb and header.
> Then I find out after I got that stuff my distributor will not work with
> it!!!!!!!!
> So then I am thinking a cam would be nice, so that turned in to a cam kit.
> So then I tell myself, I can't do all this work and money and not know
> for sure what kind of shape my head is in??? And its a good thing I did pull
> the head off!!!! I would have been bolting all those nice new parts onto JUNK!
>
> Mike at HI FLOW HEADS in Alsip IL, #708-396-0505 explained to me what
> was wrong, and give me several options and his better judgment as to what needs
> to
> be done. Yes I could have had a V8, But Iam not racing!!! I bought this truck
> in february, I looked for a long time to find one in good shape body wise!
> I did want a V8, but this truck was to sharp to pass up!!!!!
> It will run better than a stock V8 small block!! And it might run forever!!!
> I think I'll be pleased !!! GENO
> 1984 4x4 XLT 2 tone blue 32 by 11.50 tires 57000 original miles
>
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Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 00:25:32 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Helms - where to buy?

I've seen alot of you guys praising the Helms manuals on the list and
was wondering were to purchase them. You guys better be right about
the amount of money being worth it. :)
Later,
Randy (Brew)
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:30:51 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 82 F250 4x4 problems

PhilDyson aol.com wrote:

> Hard shifting is a very common problem with new process transfer cases.

It is ? I've owned 4 trucks equipped with the np 208, 3 with a 205 and 2 with
203's and have never had this problem, and neither have any of the countless
t-cases in any of my friends trucks. Keep in mind that 90% of these trucks spend
50% or more of there time with the hubs locked in.
( We buy and use 4x4's for the intended purpose of 4wd OFF-ROAD use... (the main
reason 90% of our trucks are Ford. Everything else breaks like glass in this
environment))

> Trying to "gorilla" it into and out of the 3 ranges can bend the shifter
> forks.

The same goes for any mechanical device...

> Mine also grinds if I try shifting it in any direction with the tranny in
> neutral or drive, I believe all do. Never shift it unless stopped in park.
> The tranny will grind if you pop it into drive while the x-fer case is in
> neutral and try to put it back in park

This conclusion explains the 4 np's...

>
> put the truck in 4-low. I could not get the truck shifted into any drive gear
> after I pulled it out of 2H. Grind, Grind, Grind. If I shut the truck off,
> put it into Park, I could put the truck in any 4x4 mode I wanted, then turned
> truck on and away I went, I just couldn't shift it while truck was running,
> in
> neutral of course. Any ideas what causes the transfer case to grind? Thanks.
> toddrpm aol.com >>

I think the explanation he was looking for is why it grinds.. the tranny being in
neutral (exact opposite for manual trans) is the reason. with an automatic in
neutral the output shaft of the tranny
is allowed to spin via a fluid or viscous coupling with the crank (a detailed
explanation would take a page or 2). when the transfer case is in neutral it
removes the load from the tranny output and allows the input shaft and gears to
spin while the output portion of the t-case remains idle.
the t-case doesn't have synchro gears like a manual tranny so it doesn't take
kindly to having
one half spinning while the other is stationary.

The only fix for this is to make sure the tranny is in park before shifting the
t-case to neutral.

As far as the shifting from 2 hi to 4 hi or vice versa goes let of the gas as you
shift the t-case,
problem solved (the 208 is especially picky about this, it doesn't like to be
shifted back and
forth while under power)...

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85 Bronco 300 IL6 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:38:52 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 5.8 mods.....

It will make a noticable improvement..

As far as the pretty thing goes, if your looking for pretty I suggest going back
to the saleen.
Use your Bronco as intended, not as a pretty "SHOW"(meaning waste of money if
spent on a 4x4) truck. Pretty causes the owner to not want to mess it up by
getting scratches in the truck
wich effectivly nulls the point of owning a 4x4...

MillrBeer aol.com wrote:

> hey-on my 95 Bronco I was wondering in it was worth it to put the same mods
> that went in to the Lightning or trying something different? I thought that
> Lightning intake would look a whole lot prettier in there, but wondering if
> it's really gonna be all that big a difference...on the other hand...they make
> a whipple supercharger that replaces the intake itself....hmmmm...I sure miss
> my Saleen SSC, but damn do I love my Bronco....
> Sean....owner of 95 Eddie Bauer Bronco


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58 F-100 292 sb 2wd
85 Bronco 300 IL6 4x4
97 F-150 4.6 sb ext cab 4x4
(and several others in progress)
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QTH: Victor ID, grid# DN431c
ICQ #3834602
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:31:40 -0700
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - FTE 80-96 5.8 mods...

Sean,on the 5.8 mods,have you considered a pair of GT-40 heads? Might
actually be comparitive cost-wise to the supercharger.Since you're in
there anyhow,you may as well change the cam and go roller chain and
gears:-) And since you changed those items,you may as well add the
roller-rockers,what the heck:-) Talk about a sleeper!!You'll be needin a
LS or locker for the rear now,for sure.


Randy
94Bronco EB-5.8 85 F-250 4x4-460
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:55:39 -0800
From: "pat daniels"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure

I have an 88 F350 4x4 that the oil pressure gauge reads on the lower third
or the gauge. It is above the 2 hash marks on the low side but usually
sits between the first hash mark and the middle. Is this normal for a 351?
The truck has 25,000 miles on it. I am thinkin' of swapping in a new oil
pump and thought I could do it by just dropping the oil pan and putting in
the new pump in but the Haynes manual says I have to loosen up the motor
mounts and jack the engine up a little. It looks like I have plenty of
room to do the job without having to jack the engine up since the truck is
a F350 4x4. Anyone ever done this or offer any advice? One last thing, is
the 351 in my truck a Windsor or Cleveland? It is the stock motor and is
fuel injected if that helps.
Thanks
Pat Daniels
Kodiak, Alaska
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Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 22:55:39 -0800
From: "pat daniels"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Low oil pressure

I have an 88 F350 4x4 that the oil pressure gauge reads on the lower third
or the gauge. It is above the 2 hash marks on the low side but usually
sits between the first hash mark and the middle. Is this normal for a 351?
The truck has 25,000 miles on it. I am thinkin' of swapping in a new oil
pump and thought I could do it by just dropping the oil pan and putting in
the new pump in but the Haynes manual says I have to loosen up the motor
mounts and jack the engine up a little. It looks like I have plenty of
room to do the job without having to jack the engine up since the truck is
a F350 4x4. Anyone ever done this or offer any advice? One last thing, is
the 351 in my truck a Windsor or Cleveland? It is the stock motor and is
fuel injected if that helps.
Thanks
Pat Daniels
Kodiak, Alaska
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