FTE 80-96 - axle seals

80-96-list-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 191

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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - axle seals
FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel wobble
FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors
Re: FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons
Re: FTE 80-96 - axle seals
FTE 80-96 - 300cid I-6 Intake Manifold
FTE 80-96 - RE: Brake Vacuum Booster
Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance
FTE 80-96 - Re:'94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:'94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
FTE 80-96 - Re: '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:F-800
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Tailgate Lettering
Re: FTE 80-96 - '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
FTE 80-96 - warped brake rotors
Re: FTE 80-96 - '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 06:39:15 EDT
From: Batstbmw

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - axle seals

Never heard any responces on my rear pinion seal leak.
The answer is it cost 100 dollars to fix not bad i thought.
But after driving to work that leak has stopped,but there is still fluid all
over the rear end and inside of the tires.
Do you think it could be the axle seals, does that mean its leaking through
the brakes and then slinging out that way or what?
Any help would greatly appreciated!
Blaine in KY.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:12:20 -0500
From: "Todd A. Muccilli"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel wobble

I am hoping I can get some advice, either technical or presuasive (with
respect to my dealer) for a persistent problem.

My 97 F-350 4x4 has a steering wheel wobble and click when the wheel is
rocked back and forth. After about 5 attempts to pull the steering
wheel and reseat it, I finally got my dealer to rebuild the upper
portion of the column (everything replaced including bearing, retainers,
sleeves, steering wheel--everything except the spring that keeps the
tension on the bearing). The problem went away only to return as
before.

I suspect that it could be the spring they didn't replace or it could be
the lower portion of the column (I can imaging play/looseness in the
lower column making the upper column appear to be loose).

Any ideas as to what could be wrong? Any ideas as to how to get the
dealer to fix it? Does anyone know if the entire assembled column can
be replaced as a single unit or does the dealer have to keep making
attempts to rebuild it? It's primarily a nuisance to have this
wobbling, but I do think it adds to the loose feel in my steering as
well.

Also, does anyone know what kind of a puller is required to remove this
steering wheel in case I want to look at this myself? I can't for the
life of me figure out how to pull this wheel.

Save me from more wasted trips to my dealer!

Thanks, Todd.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:42:41 -0400
From: "Skerrett, Michael"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons

Regarding the discussion on warped rotors:

The rotors on my '92 F-150 were fine from the factory but the first time
I had the tires rotated the knucklehead with the air impact tool went
around in a circle with too much torque and warped both front rotors.
Ford said "impossible" and refused to fix it until I e-mailed Detroit.
They then put the same kind of weak-a**ed rotors back on. I replaced
the front pads at about 25K miles (just 2 fasteners on each caliper,
took about 15 minutes per side) and had the "new" rotors turned then as
they were warped again. This time just from normal braking. At 35K
miles I replaced the Ford rotors with aftermarket products at the local
Discount Auto Parts. These have worked fine since and the truck now has
about 110K miles on it. No ABS on the front of a '92 (only rear) but
I'll bet there is an aftermarket replacement rotor for ABS well less
than what the dealer wants. Anyone who knows how to get the front off
the ground and use a wrench can replace the pads and rotors. Just don't
forget to carefully recompress the caliper actuators back to full open
before putting in your new pads.

On the discussion about the mirror button:

I guess all mirrors on all Ford products fall off. The '92 has no set
screw, but I found that putting the tip of an electrician sized
screwdriver into the slot and twisting a little, the button dropped out
in my hand with no banging or cursing. Clean the windshield and button
well with alcohol and allow to dry before starting the bond process.

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors

Ben, I think "pulling the plug" on your 4WABS would be a mistake.The
only time that the antilock system comes into play anyhow is when the
brakes begin to lock up.I have tested mine a few times on the ice and
snow,and these systems work extremely well.I would suggest that you
replace the rotors with a good aftermarket pair,like Bendix.Don't buy
the taiwanese made crap,or you may find yourself in the same place again
maybe sooner.If the aftermarket rotors are for a Bronco,there should be
provision there for the speed sensors.You can remove them from the old
rotors and install them on the new rotors,and maintain your 4WABS
system.How many miles do you have on the Bronco? I have a 94 as well
with 35,000 on it and have had the front brakes apart once for
inspecting them.Otherwise no problems.If your calipers are not releasing
for some reason,look at the calipers themselves or the master cylinder
as a possible problem.

Randy
94Bronco EB-5.8 85 F-250 4x4-460
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:54:00 -0400
From: "Christian J Hedemark II"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons

> I guess all mirrors on all Ford products fall off.

I have had more Fords than I care to remember. Going from a 63 falcon
(unrestored original... you can imagine how bad that was falling apart) up to my
96 Mustang and lots in between. Maybe I've beat the odds, but out of all of the
problems I've EVER had on Fords I can't say I've ever had the rearview mirror
mount fall off. I've had the mirrors vibrate loose from the mount, but a quick
twist of an allen wrench fixes that right up.

Gas gauge sensors, on the other hand......

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:41:46 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - axle seals

At 06:39 AM 5/29/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Never heard any responces on my rear pinion seal leak.
>The answer is it cost 100 dollars to fix not bad i thought.
>But after driving to work that leak has stopped,but there is still fluid all
>over the rear end and inside of the tires.
>Do you think it could be the axle seals, does that mean its leaking through
>the brakes and then slinging out that way or what?
>Any help would greatly appreciated!
>Blaine in KY.

Only other fluid back there is brake fluid and you'd know if it
was leaking! If you can get enough of the fluid on you fingertips
to smell it, it should smell really strong and stinky, almost like
sulpher, if its differential fluid. Also, have you considered the
possibility that the rear main seal or transmission is leaking?
I ran into the same problem once with a bad valve cover gasket.
The seals themselves are actually not too difficult to replace,
if you want a step-by-step, let me know.

Ken Payne

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S5.hninc.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300cid I-6 Intake Manifold

I might want to put exhaust headers on my '81 F-150 Custom 4x4 with the
300cid I-6 engine. If I do this how will it affect the intake manifold.
The stock setup is a bolted together "combo" intake/exhaust header.
Will I need to replace the intake manifold at the same time. If I do
need to replace is one available for a two bbl carburetor.

Gary Callahan
'81 F-150 Custom 4x4
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:50:43 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Brake Vacuum Booster

> Walt, Mike, Even re: Brake Vacuum Booster
>
> I had the same scary experience with my '88 3/4 ton 7.3 ltr diesel
> (longbed, Supercab); first push on the pedal with a little assist
> after that stand on it with both feet and pull on the steering wheel
> -- (sure scares the heck out of you when that little Miata stops quick
> in front of you).
>
> Anyway, since the Diesel engine doesn't really produce a vacuum the
> Booster Pump supplies most of the vacuum for the entire system. After
> replacing it ($198 from the local Ford dealer for the pump - w/o the
> pulley) everything was fine. Be careful when putting the pulley on the
> new pump DON'T PRESS it on as this will blow the shaft out through the
> back seal, use a bolt with a couple of thick washers screwed into the
> shaft threads to pull it on with an air wrench.
>
> Good luck!
> Steve '88 F-250
>
>
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:52:41 -0400
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance

>Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:40:11 -0700
>From: Gene Ball
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance

>Mike, Thanks for gettin back with me. Does your distributor >have
vacuum advance?
>Did you have to take a smog test in your state, is your >pollution
stuff still hooked up?
>Can you recomend a good performance muffler that is quite! I >want to
keep the big round type muffler on it.
>Thanks Geno

Geno, No my distributor is controlled by the computer, EECIV I think.
There is no smog testing in my state. But I did try to keep all the smog
stuff hooked up. My header did not have a port for the exhaust gas
return so I couldn't hook that back up. If yours does you can buy the
plate that fits in between you carb and intake for the four barrel,
since the one from the stock one barrel carb won't work. Does your
header have two collectors, mine does and I had to buy two new cats and
mufflers. My mufflers are about a 6" diameter and 24" long. I don't
think I would get the same mufflers again. It's not to loud but I have
noticed it's gotten louder as they get older. The Flowmaster 3 chamber
and Gibson mufflers are both good performance mufflers. I have a friend
with a 3.0L ranger and a Gibson duel exhaust and it is real quiet, might
be the 3.0L though. You could also Y back into your existing exhaust if
you didn't want to buy new cats and mufflers. Although you won't gain as
much power. I did this on a Chevy, I Y'ed of the existing muffler and
kicked duel pipes straight out the back. It's still quite and looks
cool. (Yes, I own both a Chevy and a Ford Truck and love them both.
Sorry die hard ford lovers.) I hope this helps.
Mike

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:14:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: Warren Auld
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors

On Fri, 29 May 1998 rokkinhorse

webtv.net wrote:

> If your calipers are not releasing
> for some reason,look at the calipers themselves or the master cylinder
> as a possible problem.
>

Another place to look is the flexible hose between the brake line and the
caliper. If it gets kinked, it can keep the calipers from retracting too.

warren
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 12:15:28 -0400
From: "Christian J Hedemark II"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:'94 Bronco- warped brake rotors

> Hey all-
> I have a question...
> Is there a FAQ somewhere regarding the FFFFFB's?
> (Famous Ford F-series Front Failing Brakes)

Never had this problem on a Ford truck.

I had this problem on a 1995 Dodge Ram about 3 weeks after driving off the
dealer's lot with it brand new. Almost flipped the truck trying to stop it.

> As most know, this question comes up on a regular basis.

First I've heard of it actually. :-)

> I have plenty of my own opinions and share them freely.

You know what they say about opinions.... ;-p

> As a matter of fact, I am just about ready to replace the fronts again for
> the 5th or 6th time, (I'm not sure, I lost track) I was going to cut and
> paste my last diary of brake problems but I'll save you all the bandwith :
> ) Email me direct and I'll send you what I have / think.

This is really interesting. I've had many Fords and the only time I've had to
replace rotors is with normal wear & tear after many years of abuse. With the
pads, they always last me at least a couple of years.

Do you have an F150? Other than the Broncos, my experience is with F250's
and an F350. The F150's do, IMHO, have inadequate brakes and I wouldn't be
surprised if this were a problem. The F250 brakes have been *GREAT*
though, as was my F350 and previous F250's. I wasn't too warm and fuzzy on
the Bronco brakes and wouldn't be surprised if they were the same as the
F150. But as mushy as they were, they still didn't chew through brakes at a
fast rate.

The Dodge chewed up it's front brakes in less than 6 months. I didn't have it for
a year so I don't know if the second set lasted.

I've had a Mercury Cougar (1981) that chewed through brakes like nuts, about
every 8 months. Other than that, the Ford's have been very reasonable about
brake life.

Can you offer specific details about the problems you've had?

Chris Hedemark
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:55:17 -0700
From: "Wood, Steve"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider

After hauling some sand in the bed of my truck, I've ended up with sand in
the track of the rear sliding window. You can hear it grinding whenever you
open or close the window. Is there an easy way to clean these tracks out?

Stephen Wood
Driving Mr. Thirsty (1995 F-350/460 Crew Cab)

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 13:10:10 -0400
From: "Christian J Hedemark II"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider

> After hauling some sand in the bed of my truck, I've ended up with sand in
> the track of the rear sliding window. You can hear it grinding whenever
> you open or close the window. Is there an easy way to clean these tracks
> out?

One word: Clay!

Chris Hedemark
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:24:43 -0600
From: "Giddens, Scott"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider

Stephen,

I would first try a vacuum cleaner, one with a reversible
nozzle to blow the sand out, you may have to go to a
garage or a friends house that has an air compressor
with enough power to blow the sand from under the
window where you can't reach.

Good luck,
Scott

> After hauling some sand in the bed of my truck, I've ended up with
> sand in
> the track of the rear sliding window. You can hear it grinding
> whenever you
> open or close the window. Is there an easy way to clean these tracks
> out?
>
> Stephen Wood
> Driving Mr. Thirsty (1995 F-350/460 Crew Cab)
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 16:07:40 -0500
From: "SSG D"
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider

> After hauling some sand in the bed of my truck, I've
> ended up with sand in
> the track of the rear sliding window. You can hear it
> grinding whenever you
> open or close the window. Is there an easy way to
> clean these tracks out?
>

air preasure and blow it out.
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juno.com (brian k rickman)
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors

On Fri, 29 May 1998 12:15:28 -0400 "Christian J Hedemark II"
writes:
>> Hey all-
>> I have a question...
>> Is there a FAQ somewhere regarding the FFFFFB's?
>> (Famous Ford F-series Front Failing Brakes)
>
>Never had this problem on a Ford truck.
>
Ditto. My F100 has the F150 suspension as an option, brakes and all. I
put cheap'o $9.95 pads on the front two years ago, didn't turn the rotors
(yeah, yeah, boo - hiss, I'll never do it again :~D ) and NEVER had ANY
problems with them. Truck stops great. Both rear cylinders have been
replaced due to failure (leaking). I bought the truck used with 80k miles
on the odo and it now has 172k showing. Also to consider, the person who
I bought the truck from had reciepts for a brake job from somewhere (not
ford). Pretty sure that the rotors were replaced. Oh yeah, the booster
hissed from the get go and I replaced it and the master cylinder many
moons ago. I guess I would recommend discount rotors and pads. I really
can't complain about having to fix the ol' truck now and then, besides
"how much are payments on a new one?!" It seems that too many people
have more things wrong with their new trucks than I do with my old beater
anyway.
Has this "bad brake" deal been mostly on 4X4's or 2wd's also.
Brian Rickman bmrickman

juno.com
91 Explorer 4X4 EB AOD
81 F100 2wd 351w AOD

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:50:50 -0700
From: Randy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors

Ben Havens wrote:
>
> Hi all- new subscriber here, and I got a few questions...:)
>
> Has anyone here had problems with warping brakes?

- -snip-

It took several complaints of the
> brakes "pulsing" for the dealer to fix the rears. Now it is the fronts
> causing problems.

- -snip-
>

Been there, done that...
Two weeks ago when I was getting everything ready for camping, I
thought it was about time I addressed the hideously bad shaking and
pulsating my F-250 did during braking. I mean, I would almost shake
the wheel out of my hand under hard braking and the wife would
complain of motion sickness when the truck pulsated under slow
braking. I called around and got anywhere from 33 to 97 dollars a
piece for the rotors (87, rear ABS only) and no one seemed to agree on
which one of the two or three they carried were for my Dana 50 TTB 4x4
HD front end. So, I figured no messing around here, take them off and
take them to the parts store so there's no confusion. Went to a local
shop and asked the guy to give me a price and then show me how to beat
the rotors off the hubs. When he came out and saw the one I brought
in he asked if I was going to replace it and when I said yes, he said
there was plenty of meat on there and I should just turn them. Ran
home and brought the second one back and he had just finished the
first and said it was REALLY warped. Turned the other and I popped
them back on (along w/one bad outer bearing) and viola! Truck stops
so smooth now I just look for excuses to stop...just kidding, but it
really made a huge difference and is VERY smooth. Pulled my 3000 lb
Travel trailer last weekend and haven't noticed any difference, they
still work just great. He also mentioned that the 'Press-on' (beat
on) rotors must be turned after installed on the hub anyway, since
you'll probably never get it on square. Ford wanted $170/side
(including hub but not labor). By looking at how thick the rotors are
I'd have to say they must get pretty damn hot if they warp from the
heat.
Later,
Randy (Brew)
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 23:15:41 -0500
From: "SFC D"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - warped brake rotors

a buddy of mine, a well known mechanic in our area, shown me an
article from Brakes & Rotors Magazine that says you should turn a
new rotor as well as an old because you have no idea how the
rotor was stored. If stored correctly (on end) then turning a new
rotor would not be necessary, however, if stored in the
horizontal position stacked on top of each other, and bouncing
around during movement or shipping, then turning would be your
best bet, so how do you really know ?

Has anyone ever read this article, or a similar one ?

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