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80-96-list-digest Saturday, May 30 1998 Volume 02 : Number 191



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - axle seals
> FTE 80-96 - Steering
wheel wobble
FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons
FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors
> Re: FTE 80-96 - Warped
rotors & mirror buttons
Re: FTE 80-96 - axle seals
> FTE 80-96 - 300cid I-6 Intake Manifold
FTE 80-96 - RE:
Brake Vacuum Booster
Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance
FTE 80-96 - Re:'94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
> Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94
Bronco warped front rotors
> Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:'94 Bronco- warped
brake rotors
> FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
Re: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
RE: FTE 80-96 - Cleaning sand from rear slider
FTE 80-96 - Re: '94 Bronco- warped
brake rotors
> Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:F-800
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re:
Tailgate Lettering
Re: FTE 80-96 - '94 Bronco- warped brake rotors
> FTE 80-96 - warped
brake rotors
> Re: FTE 80-96 - '94 Bronco- warped
brake rotors
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 06:39:15 EDT
From: Batstbmw aol.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - axle
seals
>
Never heard any responces on my rear pinion seal leak.
The answer is it cost 100 dollars to fix not bad i thought.
But after driving to work that leak has stopped,but there is still fluid all
over the rear end and inside of the tires.
Do you think it could be the axle seals, does that mean its leaking through
the
brakes and then slinging out that way or what?
Any help would greatly appreciated!
Blaine in KY.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:12:20 -0500
From: "Todd A. Muccilli"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Steering wheel wobble

I am hoping I can get some advice, either technical or presuasive (with
respect to my dealer) for a persistent problem.

My 97 F-350 4x4 has a steering wheel wobble and click when the wheel is
rocked back and forth. After about 5 attempts to pull the steering
wheel and reseat it, I finally got my dealer to rebuild the upper
portion of the column (everything replaced including bearing, retainers,
sleeves, steering wheel--everything except the spring that keeps the
tension on the bearing). The problem went away only to return as
before.

I suspect that it could be the spring they didn't replace or it could be
the lower portion of the column (I can imaging play/looseness in the
lower column making the upper column appear to be loose).

Any ideas as to what could be wrong? Any ideas as to how to get the
dealer to fix it? Does anyone know if the entire assembled column can
be replaced as a single unit or does the dealer have to keep making
attempts to rebuild it? It's primarily a nuisance to have this
wobbling, but I do think it adds to the loose feel in my steering as
well.

Also, does anyone know what kind of a puller is required to remove this
steering wheel in case I want to look at this myself? I can't for the
life of me figure out how to pull this wheel.

Save me from more wasted trips to my dealer!

Thanks, Todd.
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:42:41 -0400
From: "Skerrett, Michael"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons

Regarding the discussion on warped rotors:

The rotors on my '92 F-150 were fine from the factory but the first time
I had the tires rotated the knucklehead with the air impact tool went
around in a circle with too much torque and warped both front rotors.
Ford said "impossible" and refused to fix it until I e-mailed Detroit.
They then put the same kind of weak-a** ed rotors back on. I replaced
the front pads at about 25K miles (just 2 fasteners on each caliper,
took about 15 minutes per side) and had the "new" rotors turned then as
they were warped again. This time just from normal braking. At 35K
miles I replaced the Ford rotors with aftermarket products at the local
Discount Auto Parts. These have worked fine since and the truck now has
about 110K miles on it. No ABS on the front of a '92 (only rear) but
I'll bet there is an aftermarket replacement rotor for ABS well less
than what the dealer wants. Anyone who knows how to get the front off
the ground and use a wrench can replace the pads and rotors. Just don't
forget to carefully recompress the caliper actuators back to full open
before putting in your new pads.

On the discussion about the mirror button:

I guess all mirrors on all Ford products fall off. The '92 has no set
screw, but I found that putting the tip of an electrician sized
screwdriver into the slot and twisting a little, the button dropped out
in my hand with no banging or cursing. Clean the windshield and button
well with alcohol and allow to dry before starting the bond process.

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 05:44:41 -0700
From: rokkinhorse webtv.net
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: 80-96 FTE-94 Bronco warped front rotors
>
Ben, I think "pulling the plug" on your 4WABS would be a mistake.The
only time that the antilock system comes into play anyhow is when the
brakes begin to lock up.I have tested mine a few times on the ice and
snow,and these systems work extremely well.I would suggest that you
replace the rotors with a good aftermarket pair,like Bendix.Don't buy
the taiwanese made crap,or you may find yourself in the same place again
maybe sooner.If the aftermarket rotors are for a Bronco,there should be
provision there for the speed sensors.You can remove them from the old
rotors and install them on the new rotors,and maintain your 4WABS
system.How many miles do you have on the Bronco? I have a 94 as well
with 35,000 on it and have had the front brakes apart once for
inspecting them.Otherwise no problems.If your calipers are not releasing
for some reason,look at the calipers themselves or the master cylinder
as a possible problem.


Randy
94Bronco EB-5.8 85 F-250 4x4-460
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:54:00 -0400
From: "Christian J Hedemark II"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Warped rotors & mirror buttons

> I guess all mirrors on all Ford products fall off.

I have had more Fords than I care to remember. Going from a 63 falcon
(unrestored original... you can imagine how bad that was falling apart) up to my
96 Mustang and lots in between. Maybe I've beat the odds, but out of all of the
problems I've EVER had on Fords I can't say I've ever had the rearview mirror
mount fall off. I've had the mirrors vibrate loose from the mount, but a quick
twist of an allen wrench fixes that right up.

Gas gauge sensors, on the other hand......

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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 09:41:46 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - axle seals
>
At 06:39 AM 5/29/98 EDT, you wrote:
>Never heard any responces on my rear pinion seal leak.
>The answer is it cost 100 dollars to fix not bad i thought.
>But after driving to work that leak has stopped,but there is still fluid all
>over the rear end and inside of the tires.
>Do you think it could be the axle seals, does that mean its leaking through
>the
brakes and then slinging out that way or what?
>Any help would greatly appreciated!
>Blaine in KY.

Only other fluid back there is brake fluid and you'd know if it
was leaking! If you can get enough of the fluid on you fingertips
to smell it, it should smell really strong and stinky, almost like
sulpher, if its differential fluid. Also, have you considered the
possibility that the rear main seal or transmission is leaking?
I ran into the same problem once with a bad valve cover gasket.
The seals themselves are actually not too difficult to replace,
if you want a step-by-step, let me know.

Ken Payne


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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 8:04:32 -0800
From: callah S5.hninc.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - 300cid I-6 Intake Manifold

I might want to put exhaust headers on my '81 F-150 Custom 4x4 with the
300cid I-6 engine. If I do this how will it affect the intake manifold.
The stock setup is a bolted together "combo" intake/ exhaust header.
Will I need to replace the intake manifold at the same time. If I do
need to replace is one available for a two bbl carburetor.

Gary Callahan
'81 F-150 Custom 4x4
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 08:50:43 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Brake Vacuum Booster

> Walt, Mike, Even re: Brake Vacuum Booster
>
> I had the same scary experience with my '88 3/4 ton 7.3 ltr diesel
> > (longbed, Supercab); first push on the pedal with a little assist
> after that stand on it with both feet and pull on the steering
wheel
> > -- (sure scares the heck out of you when that little Miata stops quick
> in front of you).
>
> Anyway, since the
Diesel engine doesn't really produce a vacuum the
> Booster Pump supplies most of the vacuum for the entire system. After
> replacing it ($198 from the local Ford dealer for the pump - w/o the
> pulley) everything was fine. Be careful when putting the pulley on the
> new pump DON'T PRESS it on as this will blow the shaft out through the
> back seal, use a bolt with a couple of thick washers screwed into the
> shaft threads to pull it on with an air wrench.
>
> Good luck!
> Steve '88 F-250
>
>
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Date: Fri, 29 May 1998 11:52:41 -0400
From: Mike Johnson
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance

>Date: Thu, 28 May 1998 15:40:11 -0700
>From: Gene Ball
>Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 300 I-6 Performance

>Mike, Thanks for gettin back with me. Does your distributor >have
vacuum advance?
>Did you have to take a smog test in your state, is your >pollution
stuff still hooked up?
>Can you recomend a good performance muffler that is quite! I >want to
keep the big round type muffler on it.
>Thanks Geno

Geno, No my distributor is controlled by the computer, EECIV I think.
There is no smog testing in my state. But I did try to keep all the smog
> stuff hooked up. My header did not have a port for the
exhaust gas
return so I couldn't hook that back up. If yours does you can buy the
plate that fits in between you carb and intake for the four barrel,
since the one from the stock one barrel carb won't work. Does your
header have two collectors, mine does and I had to buy two new cats and
mufflers. My mufflers are about a 6" diameter and 24" long. I don't
think I would get the same mufflers again. It's not to loud but I have
noticed it's gotten louder as they get older. The Flowmaster 3 chamber
and Gibson mufflers are both good performance mufflers. I have a friend
with a 3.0L ranger and a Gibson duel exhaust and it is real quiet, might
be the 3.0L though. You could also Y back into your existing exhaust if
you didn't want to buy new cats and mufflers. Although you won't gain as....


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