80-96-list-digest Wednesday, May 20 1998 Volume 02 : Number 179



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Milestone
FTE 80-96 - More sway bars
FTE 80-96 - RE: Sway Bar Bushings
FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Another list vote
FTE 80-96 - Excursion
Re: FTE 80-96 - more 4X swaybar
RE: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - more 4X swaybar
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: GM quality (or lack thereof)
Re: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway bars, spring bushings
Re: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars
FTE 80-96 - Re: F-350 Monobeam popping
FTE 80-96 - Re: Have YOU flown a FORD...lately!?!
FTE 80-96 - Tranny Type
Re: FTE 80-96 - more 4X swaybar

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 06:27:18 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

I think it could be the fact that I stuck with the 235/85 tires. Having the
33x12.5 might make it a little more stable? And it could be the fact that I
have always had them on then all of the sudden not having them was quite a
change.
Anybody with the 44IFS HD on 3/4 ton, when you park your truck and the
wheels are hard over, do you have a really big camber angle on them? I had
the front end alligned after the tires were put on, and it is within spec,
but it just seems like they really stick out there now (same size tire and
wheel :( as before)

Thanks
Casey

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 10:18:46 -0500
From: "David J. Baldwin"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Milestone

Ken Payne wrote:

> >Have YOU flown a FORD...lately!?!
> >
> >Bob
> >
>
> hmm.... actually Ford did made some planes in WWII!
>
> Ken

Right you are, Ken, and actually before WWII. The Ford Trimotor was a late
'20s to early '30s aircraft that was popular at the time. Was used by Adm.
Byrd in his polar expeditions, if I recall correctly.

If you or anyone else is interested in Ford history (and history in
general), take a trip up to Henry Ford Museum and Greenfield Village in
Dearborn, MI. Henry collected quite a lot of stuff: cars, airplanes,
locomotives, clocks, watches, glassware, furniture, etc. You can spend at
least two days going through it all.

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Best Regards,

Dave Baldwin
Dallas, TX
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:03:59 -0700
From: Jon Berman
Subject: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars

Hello,
I just joined this list and read alot about the sway bar discussion but
have a couple questions also.

I've got a 1994 F-150, 2wd, shortbed. Has anyone ever ADDED a front
and/or rear sway bar on these vehicles (as the stock truck doesn't come
with them)? According to Ford, they do not make an "add-on" sway bar
kit, you need to buy all the parts separately. Well, I talked with one
of the nicest Ford parts guys ever for about 20 minutes, and we looked
at all the parts required to assemble just the front sway bar. It
amounted to over $350 just for the parts (and there's lots of little
parts)!!

1) Does anyone know if they make an aftermarket sway bar kit for less
money, and

2) I use my vehicle for commuting to work, mostly through canyons. It
spends 100% of the time on the pavement. For this kind of money, are
sway bars really worth it??

Thanks for any advice,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 09:58:37 -0700
From: Steve Faust
Subject: FTE 80-96 - RE: Sway Bar Bushings

Casey wrote:
Thanks to all who have replied on the sway bars....Where can I get the
little bushings (other than the dealer unless I have too) The guys at
NAPA can't find them in their catalog, (they do have other sizes, but
not the size I have.)...


Casey: try a local Off-Road/performance shop if there is one you may
also want to try Energy Suspension (they are one of the leading
manufactures in the industry) their Hyper-Flex bushings have received a
lot of positive reviews. Here's their web site
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.energysuspension.com I'm planning on using a number of their
products on my truck.

Let us know what you find out.

Steve Faust
'88 F-250 4x4 Supercab
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:11:04 -0400
From: Ken Payne
Subject: FTE 80-96 - ADMIN: Another list vote

As requested several times over the last few months, a vote
to start a performance oriented list has been added to the
voting center on the web site. This list would be for
discussion of performance, hot-rod and street-rod issues for
all years and models of Ford trucks. This list will be
dedicated to the pursuit of power!

Point your browser to the main web site and click on "voting".
Voting expires in two weeks. If passed, this new list would
be administered by list member Keith Srb, who has volunteered
to take on the job.

Ken Payne
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 11:56:35 -0700
From: Sheldon Belinkoff
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Excursion

I've heard a lot of talk about the new Ford "Suburban fighter" called
the Excursion. Does anyone know where some pictures or information
about this new vehicle can be found on the web?
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Sheldon Belinkoff
belinkoff earthlink.net

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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 12:50:03 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more 4X swaybar

I've got a 99 dollar one with 30 feet of 3/16" cable coming soon. Just to
throw in the back of the missus Bronco II
Ordered from DAMARK, I'll let you know after I get my hands (and the truck)
on it...

Bob


At 07:25 PM 5/18/98, you wrote:
>Ryan Dorman wrote:
>"You forgot up mountains, .....snip
>If your 4x4 lives on the pavement. 1st why is it a 4x4???, 2nd run swaybars
. I personally get by with a 2X, but often hanker for one of
>those portable winches that fit in your receiver. Any body ever owned one
>of those?
>Dave Lampert
>
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 15:14:37 -0500
From: Sean Winters
Subject: RE: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars

Two companies come to mind. JC Whitney and Performance Products. JC
Whitney's web site is under construction, but go to
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.performanceproducts.com and look around. If you can't find it
there, order one of their free catalogs from the web page; I've seen
them in the catalog.

Sean Winters
82 Stepside...now medium metallic charcoal (gray)!!!
Pictures coming soon.

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From: Jon Berman [mailto:jonb2 pipeline.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 1998 11:04 AM
To: 80-96-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - More sway bars


Hello,
I just joined this list and read alot about the sway bar discussion but
have a couple questions also.

I've got a 1994 F-150, 2wd, shortbed. Has anyone ever ADDED a front
and/or rear sway bar on these vehicles (as the stock truck doesn't come
with them)? According to Ford, they do not make an "add-on" sway bar
kit, you need to buy all the parts separately. Well, I talked with one
of the nicest Ford parts guys ever for about 20 minutes, and we looked
at all the parts required to assemble just the front sway bar. It
amounted to over $350 just for the parts (and there's lots of little
parts)!!

1) Does anyone know if they make an aftermarket sway bar kit for less
money, and

2) I use my vehicle for commuting to work, mostly through canyons. It
spends 100% of the time on the pavement. For this kind of money, are
sway bars really worth it??

Thanks for any advice,
Jon
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:38:55 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - more 4X swaybar

Check out http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ramsey.com .. They have a winch for every need..

yhtlines surfari.net wrote:

> Ryan Dorman wrote:
> "You forgot up mountains, .....snip
> If your 4x4 lives on the pavement. 1st why is it a 4x4???, 2nd run swaybars
> they are intended for pavement pounders.... "
>
> I learned something from this discussion that a 4X owner can have the best
> of all worlds with kits that allow an owner to connect or disconnect the
> sway bars quickly ...(assumption here on my part). I agree that if you are
> going to use a truck on pavement at high way speeds, it is much more
> enjoyable with sway bars front and rear. And yes, certainly if you live on
> a farm on in the mountains with a rugged lifestyle, then a 4X is probably
> more of a requirement than at sea level. We use it for boat pulling,
> occasional mountain goating for fun, and for contractor type work. And
> since it belongs to my son, it fulfills certain, um, emotional needs that
> seem to be harbored by young men. For me it was a four speed in a light
> bodied V-8 car. I personally get by with a 2X, but often hanker for one of
> those portable winches that fit in your receiver. Any body ever owned one
> of those?
> Dave Lampert
>
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Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 14:55:51 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: GM quality (or lack thereof)

And no matter what you do if plan on buying a 4x4, Don't buy GM!!!
A few years ago I bought a 77 suburban (room to haul my construction crew and
all our tools)
for $1500, It would climb just about any mountain that got in it's way. The
problem is it didn't get to climb very many mountains (always broke down).. 8
months $6500, 5 trannies, 4 transfer cases,several rear ends &
front axles with the eventual swap to 3/4 ton undercariage (to avoid any more....

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