FTE 80-96 - swaybars

80-96-list-digest Monday, May 18 1998 Volume 02 : Number 176

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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - swaybars
FTE 80-96 - gas mileage
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1980 F100
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bar and Specs
FTE 80-96 - RE: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine swap woes, HELP!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - swaybars
FTE 80-96 - Lowering Tech/Towing
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1st gear grind
FTE 80-96 - gas mileage
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE Small - Auto Hubs
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars (too much)
FTE 80-96 - 2nd Post,please reply. 302 needs more power.

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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 04:29:27
From: yhtlines

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - swaybars

My lightweight 2x 95 F150 has sway bars front and rear (street driven) and
those will stay on there. My 95 GMC came with one on the front only, so I
added a rear one to reduce understeer and rear body lean. My son's '88 4X
F150 has none and we are looking for some bars to put on it. The street
weeble, wobble and lurch that it does with no sway bars (new tires, shocks
> etc) is not confidence inspiring. Having been away from the off-road scene
for some time, I was not aware that some vehicle type groups (ie jeep)
recommended taking them off. But I remember that Jeep was in a lot of
trouble for their vehicle rolling over on the street (I had a CJ5 and that
damn thing was dangerous!). So if you are going to do some very fancy once
in a lifetime (gotta justify that new winch) crawl over the Rubicon trail,
then you very well may want to disconnect sway bars to get more axle travel
over rocks. BUT, how many of us ever go crawling over 2 and 3 foot high
rocks in continuous repetitiveness?
Dave Lampert

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - gas mileage

FWIW, some personal truck towing mileage data. I belong to a competitive
boat class, and we tow our 5500# boat/trailer rigs around. I sized my 302
F150 to tow this up and down California a couple of times a year and still
get me excellent gas mileage on other days. I get 10 towing, 17 going to
work and 20+ on the fwy. My 350ci GMC gets 8 or 9 towing the same rig. A
friend with a heavy duty 88 or so F250 DIESEL gets 8 mpg under the same
towing conditions. I imagine he goes up the hill faster than my 302, but
not faster than my 350, as the 350 will maintain speed limit with the load
on the hills I pull.
Dave Lampert

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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

AFAIK,Sway bars were an option from Ford.The vehicles equipped with
towing packages have then as standard equipment.I have then on my Bronco
> (front and rear) and love them.This rig doesn't get off-road much,so
maximum suspension articulation is no consideration.The Bronco handles
like a dream in the corners,especially with the quad shock arrangement
up front.If anything was to be improved on it,I'd like a larger diameter
sway bar in the rear,with the rear end dropped about two inches:-)

Randy
94Bronco EB-5.8 85 F-250 4x4-460
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 08:27:38 -0500
From: Danny
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1980 F100

it sounds more like the rings are shot and you have blowby At 05:10 PM
5/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
>THANKS DAVID BUT HAVE GOOD HOSE. THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT , I BELIEVE I
>MAY HAVE AIR GETTING INTO CRANK CASE FROM BAD GASKET. EVEN WHEN PVC IS
>WORKING AND I REV UP ENGINE, OIL SMOKE COMES OUT OF MY FILLER CAP HOSE.
>THANKS AGAIN FOR THE SUGGESTION THOUGH.
>
>David J. Baldwin wrote:
>
>> Jim wrote:
>>
>> > 1980 F100 4.9L (300CID) Need help: My air filter gets clogged with
>> > oil. The oil comes from the oil filler cap hose to the air filter.
>> >
>> > I have replaced the PCV valve and head gasket but the oil is still
>> > drawn into air filter from filler cap. Is there something common I
>> > should be checking.
>>
>> Perhaps the hose connecting to your PCV valve is plugged?
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Dave Baldwin
>> Dallas, TX
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Date: Sun, 17 May 1998 09:00:34 -0700
From: Robert Kennedy
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

Anti-sway bar disconnects are also availabe aftermarket. Gives the
articulation off-road and re-connects to give the the safety of the sway
reduction...

Bob

At 03:34 PM 5/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>JDavis1277 wrote:
>>
>> No offense meant to anyone, but Ford has some pretty qualified engineers on
>> the payroll. It cost Ford a lot of money to install (anti)sway bars on
your
>> trucks. Trust me, they would not have done it if they didn't think the
truck
>> should have them. They would much rather have put the money into the
profit
>> column. Now, if you really think you know more about what is best for your
>> truck, go ahead. This is America and you are entitled to do stuff like
that.
>> Good luck, Butch Davis-
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>4 Wheeler Magazine has always recomended that you take the anti-sway
>bars off of Jeep Wranglers. This is because they perform better off
>road this way. But they also recomend putting it back on when you go
>back on road.
>So everyone is right. :)
>Ryan
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Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 08:35:09 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bar and Specs

>>>>>>>
Casey, If you want to contact me at the address above regarding your
sway bars,you have a buyer if they'll fit my 85 F-250 4x4. Mine gets
off-road abot 10% of the time,and the decreased articulation is no
problem to me.I want to tow with this truck,and would take a little less
body roll over suspension travel anyways. What are the specs on your
truck? Thanks,
>>>>>>>
Humm, very good points on both sides of the issue. I have to replace one
rear leaf spring (down to one leaf on the passenger side) before I can go
and test out the sway bars disconnected offroad. I mostly use the truck as
a daily driver, but I also do enjoy taking it up the logging roads and the
back woods around here. It will take 10-12 weeks for the springs to get
here, (if I can get them orederd on Monday). But I will try the driving on
the highway with them off. For the offroad part, I have to wait. The specs
are 1983 4x4 reg cab, 133 in wb. dana 60-2 (semi floater) and dana 44 IFS
(not sure about the HD or not?)

Thanks,
Casey

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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 22:17:24 -0700
From: Paul Laughlin
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine swap woes, HELP!!

Randy wrote:
> This is going to sound like one of those stupid troubleshooting answers you find in > the back of, say, a new VCR manual: Symptom: Will not power up Possible problem: > Is the power cord properly attached to a wall outlet.

To illlustrate just how this can work: My brother-in-law had just
replaced the heads on a 390 ci in one of his wreckers. He had been
trying to get it started for about four hours. I had been standing
there for about an hour. My wife walked up, stood there for about five
minutes and innocently asked if it had any gas in it. The
brother-in-law started to make a smart remark, stopped, turned beet red
and walked over to get a can of gas. Needless to say, after putting a
couple of gallons of gas in, it it started right up. And the
brother-in-law was a professional mechanic.
Paul in Portland OR
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