Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460

80-96-list-digest Sunday, May 17 1998 Volume 02 : Number 175

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In this issue:

Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460
FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE80-96 F-100
FTE 80-96 - Re: sway bars
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1980 F100
FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bio/ Diesel Vs. 460
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!
FTE 80-96 - 1st gear grind
Re: FTE 80-96 - Engine swap woes, HELP!!
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1980 F100
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars
Re: FTE 80-96 - 1st gear grind
Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 05:06:40 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Joseph L. Casey"
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460

In regard to the comments below, we just change from a 1989 460 to a 1999
Powerstroke. There is a comparison and the diesel moves the same trailer
more easily. The trailer is a 14,000 lb 5th wheel and the total weight is
around 20,500. The 460 simply had less pulling ability.

We also moved from the SRW to a DRW. As someone in this group advised me
earlier, we would not go back to a SRW. The stability and extra weight of
the truck (7200 versus 5700) also adds to stability etc.

At 01:54 AM 5/16/98 -0600, you wrote:
>
>
>FordboyDZ wrote:
>
>> Lenny,
>> Being a big block fan I guess I'm a little biased.
>> I have a 96 F250HD extended cab 460,auto,{Wish
>> it was a 5 speed} and I will put it up against a
>> diesel any day {Bound to start trouble with diesel
> >> fans but big block people know what I'm talking about.}
>>
>
>I was and always will be a big block fan, but the honest truth is that if I
>were to buy a new 250/350 I would have to go for the diesel,, and no the
>460 will not outpull the powerstroke,It'll keep up (until the load gets
>ridiculous). I have driven both equally loaded up and over an
>8300 foot mountain pass (13 miles of wich are 8% or steeper grade --Teton
>Pass Wyoming)
>and the powerstroke gets the win everytime...
>
>> In all fairness to the diesel camp a diesel will get way
>> better fuel mileage & longevity, but a 460 will pull a hill
>> with a load much more faster Also I could quality rebuild
>> my 460 2 to 3 times for the option price of a diesel.
>> In my humble opinion,if your going to tow everyday go
>> with a diesel,but if your a vacationer go with a 460.
>> Also I think an extended cab will give you the most
>> room per $ {seats up to 6 depending on options} and
>> I get an honest 13 to14 mpg highway[not towing}
>> Hope this helps,
>> Dave Zarnesky
>> ,
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: FTE80-96 F-100

Jim,sounds like the blowby may be excessive and in greater quantity than
the crankcase ventilation system can handle.Generally,this means rings
are about shot(sorry) and the engine needs rebuilding.Do like the
previous list member suggested and perform a compression test on it and
compare what you have to what you should have.How many miles do you have
on it? Do you have oil leaks elsewhere on the engine?Excessive crankcase
pressure can cause them,too.

Randy
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Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: sway bars

Casey, If you want to contact me at the address above regarding your
sway bars,you have a buyer if they'll fit my 85 F-250 4x4. Mine gets
off-road abot 10% of the time,and the decreased articulation is no
problem to me.I want to tow with this truck,and would take a little less
body roll over suspension travel anyways. What are the specs on your
truck? Thanks,

Randy
94Bronco EB-5.8 85 F-250 4x4-460
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 10:10:58 EDT
From: JDavis1277
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

No offense meant to anyone, but Ford has some pretty qualified engineers on
the payroll. It cost Ford a lot of money to install (anti)sway bars on your
trucks. Trust me, they would not have done it if they didn't think the truck
should have them. They would much rather have put the money into the profit
column. Now, if you really think you know more about what is best for your
truck, go ahead. This is America and you are entitled to do stuff like that.
Good luck, Butch Davis-
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 11:07:04 -0700
From: Jim Allen
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - 1980 F100

Thanks for the info Bob I am going to do as you suggest.

Robert Kennedy wrote:

> My .02,
>
> There could be a couple of reasons for the blow by:
> 1. Could be a good time to run a compression test and see if all cylinders
> are coming in at a good ratio.
>
> Is the truck running smoothly?
>
> 2. If a valve is not seating correctly, compression will blow by the valve
> and great pressure under the valve cover.

>
> 3. If the oil paths are blocked on the head, oil will build up and be
> sucked into the PCV valve. It would not take a lot of this type of blockage
> to create the oiling prob.
>
> A few to think about....there are quite a few sharp folks out here.
> I'm sure you'll get more info...
>
> Bob
>
> At 05:10 PM 5/15/98 -0700, you wrote:
> >THANKS DAVID BUT HAVE GOOD HOSE. THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT , I BELIEVE I
> >MAY HAVE AIR GETTING INTO CRANK CASE FROM BAD GASKET. EVEN WHEN PVC IS
> >WORKING AND I REV UP ENGINE, OIL SMOKE COMES OUT OF MY FILLER CAP HOSE.
> >THANKS AGAIN FOR THE SUGGESTION THOUGH.
> >
> >David J. Baldwin wrote:
> >
> >> Jim wrote:
> >>
> >> > 1980 F100 4.9L (300CID) Need help: My air filter gets clogged with
> >> > oil. The oil comes from the oil filler cap hose to the air filter.
> >> >
> >> > I have replaced the PCV valve and head gasket but the oil is still
> >> > drawn into air filter from filler cap. Is there something common I
> >> > should be checking.
> >>
> >> Perhaps the hose connecting to your PCV valve is plugged?
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best Regards,
> >>
> >> Dave Baldwin
> >> Dallas, TX
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 14:52:46 EDT
From: FordboyDZ
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460

Ryan,
To be totally honest, I never had the opportunity to drive
one of the new Powerstrokes, but if its in a Ford its got
to be allright.I guess I've passed so many Dodge/Cummins{fact}
in the mountains over here that I've become jaded.It is just tuff
for me to justify the cost and extra maintenance that goes
with them,but then again I never owned one.
C'ya
Dave

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4 Wheeler Magazine has always recomended that you take the anti-sway
bars off of Jeep Wranglers. This is because they perform better off
road this way. But they also recomend putting it back on when you go
back on road.
So everyone is right. :)
Ryan
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Date: Sat, 16 May 1998 16:17:32 -0600
From: Ryan Dorman
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Re: Sway Bars

Interesting, I was under the impression that the DOT forced Ford to add swaybars
to certain models (on Bronco's they are a mandatory factory item (no law against
removeing them yet))
None of my friends F-150 long box 4x4's came with swaybars. Ford didn't willingly
design
them in the DOT required them to... Thats why a lift for an F-150 has 1 1/2"
taller springs
> than a lift for a Bronco (the Bronco has 1 1/2 spacer blocks under the springs in
order to
clear the swaybar mounts)...

JDavis1277 wrote:

> No offense meant to anyone, but Ford has some pretty qualified engineers on
> the payroll. It cost Ford a lot of money to install (anti)sway bars on your
> trucks. Trust me, they would not have done it if they didn't think the truck
> should have them. They would much rather have put the money into the profit
> column. Now, if you really think you know more about what is best for your
> truck, go ahead. This is America and you are entitled to do stuff like that.
> Good luck, Butch Davis-
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