80-96-list-digest Friday, May 15 1998 Volume 02 : Number 172



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In this issue:

FTE 80-96 - Double Clutch
Re: FTE 80-96 - performance/mileage improvements, '95 f150 w'
FTE 80-96 - Re: SPecial Spindle nut
re: FTE 80-96 - 95 Ranger Brake line
FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!
FTE 80-96 - Having a blast in Pigeon Forge
Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!
FTE 80-96 - Fw: RE:Front end poping
Re: FTE 80-96 - Bio/Diesel Vs. 460
FTE 80-96 - Lotsa Questions Re: New to Fords
FTE 80-96 - A/C is fixed....thanks
FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460

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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 15:52:34 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Double Clutch

I had to start doing that my self on the t-18. That is where you push the
clutch in once and take it out of gear, then push in the clutch again and
put it into the next gear right? Mine used to grind in 2 nd and 3 rd, and
sometimes even 4th. BUt double clutching has gotten rid of that problem,
except on the those groggy mornings and I get a little ahead of myself and
dont quite have out of gear before letting up the clutch....

Casey

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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:53:03 -0600
From: Ryan Penner
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - performance/mileage improvements, '95 f150 w'

No this is not a double clutch, at least I don't belive so. Double
Clutch is when you push the clutch in, pull it out of gear, then
pull the clutch out, then put it back in, and put it in gear.

Chad D. Cassetty wrote:
>
> Is this what's referred to as a "double-clutch"?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ryan Penner [SMTP:80-96-list ford-trucks.com]
> Sent: Thursday 7:01 AM
> To: 80-96-list
> Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - performance/mileage improvements, '95 f150 w'
>
> This is normal on all of those transmissions, the key is to pull out of
> the
> gear that you are shifting from wait in the netruel position for a
> moment (1-2 seconds) the slowly pull down into the next gear. I have
> been shifting this way for a long time, and it seems to keep it from
> grinding so much. My dad who owned a construction company for the
> longest
> time had these problems on all of the Fords. Their solution was the
> same
> as mine just take a little more time to shift and that should make the
> whole thing last longer.
>
> Ryan Penner
> 1991 F-150 Custom (179,000 miles)
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Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 16:07:55 -0800
From: "Casey Vandor"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Re: SPecial Spindle nut

Ok thanks for the info, I will stop down in at Napa (they get too much of
money allready, should be on an allowance)

I didn't think they were alot further in, but makes sense.

Thanks
Casey


> It is possible to remove the spindle nut with a punch, but next to
impossible to
> re-install it.
> Remember that a 4wd spindle nut is deep inside the hub not close to the
surface
> like a 2wd.
> Trust me when I say buy the spindle nut socket. It's worth every penny.
>


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 21:05:52, -0500
From: KNBD87D prodigy.com (MR JOSH J TENNEY)
Subject: re: FTE 80-96 - 95 Ranger Brake line

Hey,

I've got the same problem on my '98. I'm going to show my service
manager sometime before its too late. How bad is it after 3 years of
wear?
Josh
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Date: Thu, 14 May 98 21:10:58 +0100
From: h7819 rea-alp.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!

We have a 97 F 150 that my dad drove before his death it has been in the
shed for a few months. It only has 21,000 miles on it has been started
now and then. The lifters are knocking like it going to blow up, also the
defective Ford lugnuts. I am going to turn 16 this summer and was
planning to buy a 1994 F 150 or so but if Ford can't even design lugnuts
that stay on I don't want one of there vehicles in my possesion. My plans
are to buy a 1993-1994 Chevrolet K 1500 silverado. Does anyone know the
whole story behind the lugnuts?
Matt Hemming
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:29:41 EDT
From: FoMoCoNUT2
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Having a blast in Pigeon Forge

This is Ken Payne, using John Miller's laptop from the Pigeon Forge
F100 Supernationals. Just wanted to let everyone know we're having
a blast. The show hasn't even started yet an already 8 list members
has stopped by.

Deacon, you're missed!

Well gotta, go. Running out of battery power.

Ken,
CoAdmin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 22:24:53 -0500
From: Michael Ruth
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Ford Truck's And All There Problems!!!!!

h7819 rea-alp.com wrote:
>
> We have a 97 F 150 that my dad drove before his death it has been in the
> shed for a few months. It only has 21,000 miles on it has been started
> now and then. The lifters are knocking like it going to blow up, also the
> defective Ford lugnuts. I am going to turn 16 this summer and was
> planning to buy a 1994 F 150 or so but if Ford can't even design lugnuts
> that stay on I don't want one of there vehicles in my possesion. My plans
> are to buy a 1993-1994 Chevrolet K 1500 silverado. Does anyone know the
> whole story behind the lugnuts?
> Matt Hemming
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Sound like like you should join the Chevy list! GOODBYE! And say hello
to bigger problems.
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 23:41:34 -0100
From: "John Thornton"
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Fw: RE:Front end poping

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Thornton
To: 80-96-list for-trucks.com
Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 10:42 PM
Subject: RE:Front end poping


>Rick
>
>I bought a 93 F150 supercab and one of the frist thing I noticed was a
>poping noise in the front end when I made a turn. I could not find out
where
>it was coming from till I got under the truck , placed a long metal rod in
I
>Beam, put pressure out on tire with my hand on the trans crossmember. As
>the tire went out the frame flexed and I felt the pop in the crossmember.
I
>remedied the problem by losening the two bolts on pass side and put in
>rubber washer. Over one yr now and no more poping! Hope this info can be
of
>help to you.
>
> Just trying to
>help
> Pat
> 93 F150 SCab
>SB
>

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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 00:36:54 EDT
From: Lt 4x4
Subject: Re: FTE 80-96 - Bio/Diesel Vs. 460

I have a 97 F-350 CC 4x4 PSD and I average between 16-17 in town and between
20-21 on the highway cruising at about 75.

Jeff

In a message dated 5/14/98 2:31:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
leonard alldata.com writes:


Are there any reliability issues associated with either? Which has the
most power? Can you get a live axle or TTB only? Manual/locking hubs?
What's a reasonable California price? Is there anything in particular to
look out for? >>
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 01:08:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Lotsa Questions Re: New to Fords

Hi Liz;

Dave Desch on the list offered some good advise. I will try not to
duplicate them.


>Date: Wed, 13 May 1998 13:44:49 -0500
>From:
>Subject: FTE 80-96 - New to Fords
>
>Hi list,
>
>My name is Liz. 6 months ago, I acquired a '80 F250, 83K, from =
>father-in-law. Last ten years he only drove it to the grocery and back. =
>Rest of the time it sat in the garage. I got myself a book and changed =
>the obvious (plugs, plug wires,fuses, all filters, oil, hoses, belts, =
>and brakes). Questions:

>1) Tires are 8.5R 16.5 They seem awfully narrow and rides kind of =
>"squirrely". If I go to 16in wheels and get 245 or 265 tires, will that =
>improve the ride stability?
Shock Absorb and a front end alignment could also be candidates for
curing your squirm. Also see Q#3

>2) Has no air conditioner - does a Ford shop need to put one in or can an =
>independent air shop do it? Would air significantly decrease my already =
>low mpg (10-12mpg)?Is it worth it if I only need it in the =
>So.Cal.summer?

I live in Maine and can't do without my AC. When brand-New my Ford
dealer sent my truck to some joker to install my AC. Any shop can do it.
MPG penality would be small on the hyway, noticeable in traffic.

>3) Since the truck has barely been used for ten years, what (if any) =
>parts might be going bad from idleness? I've noticed that most the =
>rubber and felt seals in the windows and other places are dried out and =
>crumbling so I'm replacing those. Other than the obvious hoses and =
>belts, are there more parts of this type I should check out?

A bit on the extreme side, might be, to replace your front end
rubber parts/bushings. A replacement kit using urethane can be had for
about $125. This could also help steering and handling. (Dave's hose ideas
are good ones,gas, brake, vacuum) Of course tires degrade with age.

>4) Just how good of an mpg should I be able to attain if everything is =
>working fine? Am I already at my limit? My weekday driving is street - =
>stop and go. Weekends are for the desert and mountains - dirt roads, =
>camping, long distance highway.

Don't know. Ask the list again, but, Need more info. Engine size
transmission, standard or automatic?

>5) If only some of the bulbs on the dash are out, should I replace all =
>of them at the same time?

Yeah, do them all while you are there...

>6) Why does the plastic washer-fluid/radiator-overflow container cost =
>$71.00 from Ford? Geez -- it's just a small,cheap plastic box!

Don't know. Or because they can!

>7) Are there any companies that have lots of accessories for my truck? =
>All the books and magazines I have seen so far specialize in either =
>vintage or new models.=20

Keep looking there are a number of them. Try 4x4 mag's. Dealers
don't always take you over the coals. Shop around.

It is nice to hear from the less experienced, and fun to pass on what
little I have learned in the past 25 years.

Good luck,
Andrew


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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 08:52 -0500 (EST)
From: Michael_Skerrett ccmail.orl.lmco.com
Subject: FTE 80-96 - A/C is fixed....thanks

Thanks for all the advise on my air conditioner. Seems last summer
when the compressor was replaced at least one faulty O-ring seal was
used. I guess is has been leaking slowly ever since, but I didn't
notice it until now, after having sat for so long. Good news, bad
news, the repair of all the O-rings was under warranty, but I had to
pay for the freon recharge (at $35 per pound).

Thanks again, and here's to COOL Ford truckin'
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Date: Fri, 15 May 1998 02:40:34 EDT
From: FordboyDZ
Subject: FTE 80-96 - Diesel vs. 460

Lenny,
Being a big block fan I guess I'm a little biased.
I have a 96 F250HD extended cab 460,auto,{Wish
it was a 5 speed} and I will put it up against a
diesel any day {Bound to start trouble with diesel
fans but big block people know what I'm talking about.}
In all fairness to the diesel camp a diesel will get way
better fuel mileage & longevity, but a 460 will pull a hill
with a load much more faster Also I could quality rebuild
my 460 2 to 3 times for the option price of a diesel.
In my humble opinion,if your going to tow everyday go
with a diesel,but if your a vacationer go with a 460.
Also I think an extended cab will give you the most
room per $ {seats up to 6 depending on options} and
I get an honest 13 to14 mpg highway[not towing}
Hope this helps,
Dave Zarnesky
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