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61-79-list Digest Sat, 10 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 078

In This Issue:
Re: Clicking solenoid
brakes
Duraspark
There's Booze in the Blender
Rear drums stuck
Re: Forwarded mail....
Sparkplugs & Build Sheets
sticking drums
Re: Sparkplugs & Build Sheets
Re: Sparkplugs & Build Sheets
460 header questions
Re: brakes

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From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Clicking solenoid
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 09:29:47 -0600


>>When I turn the
> key, all I get is clicking, no starter engagement. Solenoid, right? The
> battery is fully charged, about 2 months old, and I just verified that it
is
> charged. Interior lights are bright and stay bright during clicking sound.
<<
>
> Could be the starter - could be the solenoid.  Jump across the solenoid -
> If the starter engages, then it is the solenoid.  If it doesn't, then it
is
> most likely the starter.  The lights not dimming during the clicking kinda
> eliminates loose/corroded connections and low voltage.
>
> Azie Magnusson

That's what I thought. After replacing the solenoid (it needed it, but
wasn't non-functional) and the starter, I decide to put the battery from my
truck on. Low and behold, a 7 week old battery was bad. Wal Mart replaced
it, but they were not very nice about it. I am going to withdraw my
endorsement of WalMart batteries. They may have lowered their quality
standards in the interest of price. If another Wal Mart battery in my
neighborhood fails during the first year, I'm going to switch brands. The
whole point of buying a new battery is confidence.

--John LaGrone
jlagrone ford-trucks.com
See Henry at: http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm


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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:47:59 -0600 (CST)
From: Don Harby <harby mim.atc.org>
Subject: brakes


After about an hour of beating the snot out of them they came off.
thanks,
Don


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:59:33 EST
Subject: Duraspark

Just a quick question folks.  My buddies doin a Duraspark conversion, and the
unit he picked up has a 3 wire, and a 4 wire connector.  On the 3 wire
connector, there is a blue wire that I have no idea where it goes.  Anyone
here able to lead me in the right direction?  Thanks

Darrell & Tweety



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From: "mmiller14" <mmiller14 socal.rr.com>
Subject: There's Booze in the Blender
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:48:04 -0800


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> We will be adding more products and cover additional trucks
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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Rear drums stuck
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 18:06:57 -0600

Don H. writes:  >>I have a 1979 f150 4wd and I can't get the rear brake drums off.  It has
60000 original miles with original brakes.  I took off the little clips on
the studs but just can't seem to get the drums loose are there any tricks?<<

Loosen the shoes a bit with the wheel washers - Spray liberally around
the center of the axle and the drum(where they meet) and let soak for a
few minutes.  Get a good short(4-6 inches) piece of really good wood and
a 2 # hammer.  Place the wood against the axle or the drum(but not both)
and knock the dickens out of it with the hammer.  It may take a few licks,
but this will usually free up the self welded area and then you can remove
the drum.

Good luck,
Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Forwarded mail....
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:26:31 -0800


> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:48:48 -0600 (CST)
> From: Don Harby <harby mim.atc.org>
> To: 61-79-list ford-truck.com
>
> I have a 1979 f150 4wd and I can't get the rear brake drums
> off.  It has
> 60000 original miles with original brakes.  I took off the
> little clips on
> the studs but just can't seem to get the drums loose are
> there any tricks?
> thanks,
> Don
>
>

Don,
Try backing off the adjusters for the brake shoes.  If the drums are worn
there could be a ridge at the open end of the drum that is catching on the
shoe and keeping the drum from coming off.

Tom H.

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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Sparkplugs & Build Sheets
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 21:42:47 -0500



> From: "John Webster" <jwebster tnt21.com>
>
> A thread on sparkplugs ran recently and it took till now to find what I
wanted. Champion sparkplugs has an 800 number (1-800-323-1977) and will take
your motor info and recommend the best plug for the application. Of course
if you don't like Champion you could always cross reference to your
preferred brand.

This is MY OPINION only.  I can honestly say that years ago, as a PAID ;)
mechanic, I replaced more NEW, defective Champion spark plugs out of mine,
friends and customers cars and trucks, than any and all other brands
combined.  I have worked for Ford, the dark side  a Standard Oil and Shell
service stations.  My specialty and hobby back then was Engine Performance.
To me Champion spark plugs were almost a joke.  Just one story here.  Back
at Standard Oil, a man pulled in a with a late model chrysler product.  It
was running with a slight miss under load.  He claimed he just tuned it up
the day before and it ran fine, other than your normal thoughts of trouble
shooting, like he may have crossed a plug wire etc, I asked him what brand
of plugs he installed.  He said Champion.  The boss was gone for the day so
I made a (stupid) cocky bet.  I told him my feelings on Champions and if the
problem was anything but a spark plug, the diagnostic would be free.  If I
was right, he owed me a 6 pack of a beverage of my choosing.   Hooked his
car to the scope, sure enough, the number 8 plug had no spark tail.  Pulled
that plug, tested it with a spark tester, it was dead, even though I didnt
notice anything out of the ordinary visually.  This is just one of dozens of
instances that I have encountered.  That was years ago, maybe this doesnt
apply today.  Still, I'll never run em.)))
FTE content, My F250 runs best on Autilite plugs and wires.. No kidding.
After this story, I hope nobody on the list ruins my day and proves to me
that Champion REALY makes Autolite spark plugs:))

Rich


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Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:27:59 -0800 (PST)
From: "Michael (Cut me and I'll bleed FORD Blue) Whittington" <broncoman85 excite.com>
Subject: sticking drums


I have had to ....on occasion grind the centering ridge on the axle when a
drum has been on several years.....not my favorite thing to do but sometime
ya gotta do what ya gotta do! I've cracked a few drums using drum pullers
and ....ok.....big hammers, before it seems that when a drum has been on for
several years the centering ridge will swell?....help me out here guys, and
make the drum stick.....my way of handling it, anyone?
Whit
77 F250 4X4 20 inchs lift 800 horse 429 44 Boggers
75 F100 460
69 F100 302
76 F250 Dual wheels 390 Tow Truck
85 Bronco 302





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From: SevnD2 aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:04:09 EST
Subject: Re: Sparkplugs & Build Sheets


In a message dated 03/10/2001 9:28:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
richth exis.net writes:

<< This is MY OPINION only.  I can honestly say that years ago, as a PAID ;)
mechanic, I replaced more NEW, defective Champion spark plugs out of mine,
friends and customers cars and trucks, than any and all other brands
combined.
To me Champion spark plugs were almost a joke.  Still, I'll never run em.)))
FTE content, My F250 runs best on Autilite plugs and wires. No kidding.
After this story, I hope nobody on the list ruins my day and proves to me
that Champion REALLY makes Autolite spark plugs:))

Rich >>

Everything you said I will agree with. Autolite plugs are all that reside
under the hoods of my Fords too. I have tried lots of plugs and have had
problems with most of them. It was always the Champion brand that gave the
most trouble. It didn't matter how hot or cold of Champion plugs used or what
engine they were used in, they just wouldn't hold up in any of my Fords.

Rollie

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 00:14:03 EST
Subject: Re: Sparkplugs & Build Sheets

I've got 4 Champion plugs that came out of my torino about 30 seconds after
they went in.  Now although 11:1 compression is a lil high, I dont think it
was high enough to cause any normal plug to do what these did.  The porcelan
part of the plug promptly separated from the metal grounding part that
threads into the heads.  Now 1 plug, I woulda figured it a fluke, but
4?????????  Nope I run autolite Resistors in everything.  In fact, the folks
at Jacobs suggest nothing but autolite resistor plugs when using their
ignition systems, as tests with all other plugs, standard or platinum, single
ground or split ground, couldn't produce the same consistant and higher power
as the Autolites.

Darrell & Tweety



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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 03:53:04 EST
Subject: 460 header questions

Ok, this is for you few folks that have 460 4 speeds in your trucks,
preferably 2wd.  Do you have headers?  I need to find a set that will work
with the 4 speed.  The heddman stuff says it will, but I find it hard to
believe seeing how any of the 460 trucks through 79 came with autos.
Sandersons look like they will fit, but are twice the $$ of hedmans, so if
they will work, you can guarentee I'll be sendin money that way.  As usual,
all info is appreciated!

Darrell & Tweety



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: brakes
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 07:27:08 -0800


I just helped my son with a set of Ranger rear brakes last night and he was
being a wimp about it and they weren't moving (following those same
instructions) so I grabbed the 2# dead blow and hit them pretty hard and
suddenly they popped and nearly fell off :-)  The dead blow hammer is pretty
safe so you can hit them pretty hard which is what this set needed :-)  I
will be looking for a heavier hammer soon :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> After about an hour of beating the snot out of them they came off.
> thanks,
> Don


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