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61-79-list Digest Wed, 07 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 075

In This Issue:
Re: Pigeon Forge Identification
Re: Falling debre
Re: Falling debre & cats
1979 F-150 Questions
Re: In Your Face!
Re: In Your Face!
ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln
ADMIN: Year/model submission list page
Re: D60(torque)
Falling debre
Re: FTE PayPal
Re: In Your Face!
Lifter Tick
Re: D60(torque)
Re: unreachable locations
Re: Tempest/LeMans
Re: Tempest/LeMans
Re: D60 (Torque)
Re: Block Questions
Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln
Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln
Re: Block Questions
Re: [61-79-list]clicking starter
Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all
Re: D60 (Torque)
Re: Lifter Tick
Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all
Value
House pets
Rear springs
Re: Rear springs

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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge Identification
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:24:18 -0800


The first year my wife and I made up shirt tags with plastic covers you pin
to your shirt.  We copied the two red fords logo and printed them out with
our names on them.  The next year we just wore our FTE shirts.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> How are all of us FTEr's going to identify ourselves at PF?
> Surely it can't
> be by wearing a FORD hat?  A CLUB FTE Tshirt?


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Falling debre
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:28:15 -0800


We used to work on old cars in my granddad's cow barn (yes on top of the
manure and straw) because it had a really nice beam to hang a chain hoist
from and we had a Shetland pony that was part crow.  Every time we laid down
a shiny wrench he snuck up there and grabbed it and took off across the
barnyard.  Spent more time hunting for the tools than working on the cars
:-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> HAHAHAHA !!!  Sounds like the farm cats that help me while I am on my
> back working on something ...just enough clearance for the cat ... never
> enough room for your arm to knock it off!!
>
> dP
>
> >
> > God I'd like to kill that cat.
> >
> > Azie Magnusson
> > Ardmore, Al.


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Falling debre & cats
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:31:46 -0800


Well, I don't like cats myself but I don't have any animals in my garage
either.  The neighbors cats I've allowed to live keep them out :-)  Now that
I have a dumpster for my trash we get along just fine :-)  Cats won't keep
the ground hogs and coons out of stuff though, you need a dog for that :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Plus, a dog is not going to keep squirrels and other vermin out of your
> garage! Very irritating to have a squirrel nesting inside your truck...at
> least the little bugger didn't chew up the seat...


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From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: 1979 F-150 Questions
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:31:28 -0500

> A lab instructor at Va Tech told me the radiator shroud didn't come
> close enough to the fan blade, and there wasn't enough vacuum.
> Could I take the radiator bolts out, get longer ones, and put spacers
> between the front of the truck and the radiator to push it back closer
> to the motor, thus putting the fan in the hole?  Would that be a good
> fix, or are spacers a bad idea?

I have a 1979 Bronco with the 351M and NO fan shroud ... it hardly ever
gets off the N in the word "Normal" on the gauge.  Somehow, I question
whether this is the problem.
might want to check if your radiator is big enough,
if you are getting good coolant flow through the radiator core,
(if 1/3 of yer core is clogged with debris, that engine will get hot,
but water will still flow),
is your water pump in good shape .. a worn water pump might not be
pulling the coolant through effectively enough


> Where are the major ground connections (I do know about the one
> from the battery to the block, but are there any other major ones?)?

battery to body (usually at the fender), body to engine (usually at the
firewall), and the regulator case is a ground connection for the electrical
system too so amke sure that has good contact to the fender.





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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: In Your Face!
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:36:59 -0800


I used to be very quick to end relationships with biting dogs or even just
disobedient dogs and cats, permanently.  I am more mellow now and just avoid
them but still wouldn't own one if it couldn't be taught better manners.  I
once threw my mother's siamese cat across the living room and splatted
against the far wall after it took a chunk out of my hand just sitting in a
chair reading the paper.  Didn't seriously hurt the cat but it never came
near me again :-)  We had "struck" an agreement :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> The only dog I have ever owned that has bitten me and lived to
> tell about it
> is the Lhasa Apso.


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: In Your Face!
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:42:56 -0800


My brother had a shepherd that eliminated all the cats. The horse trainer
who first owned it gave it to him to get it out of his farm so he could keep
the mice down :-)  She would lay in the sun and just wait til they came up
to her and started rubbing and purring and when they got in just the right
position she would snap and litterally bite them in two.  She also killed a
goat that was leaving piles up on the hay bales where he would reach up and
get a hand full of poop so he kind of encouraged her behind his bosses
back......She was a one man dog, very serious animal for sure.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Real men have real dogs (working breeds) not toy breeds. :-) All
> real dogs
> eat cats and keep the meter readers on alert. ;-)


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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:25:54 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln


Fellow Ford Truck Enthusiasts members, in anticipation of
the upcoming launch of our new web site, FTE is in need of
the year/model groups of all Ford, Mercury and Lincoln
models, including cars, trucks, vans and SUVs.

Example:

The Crown Vic model was pretty much the same from 1992-1997
so "1992-1997 Crown Vic" would qualify as a year/model
group.  Another example, "1961-1966 F-Series" or "1980-1986
F-Series".

We need every group you can possibly think of, including full
size, mid-size, compacts, sub compacts, trucks, vans, SUVs,
antiques (Model T, A, etc), Australian makes, European makes,
etc.

Please submit these ASAP to kpayne ford-trucks.com.  I will
post a list on the web site, updating it every few hours over
the next 3 days to lesson the chances of duplicate submissions.

Each person who sends in a submission we don't already have
will be entered into a drawing for the following:

One Grand Prize $60 value
-------------------------
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   "Classic" Ford Truck Enthusiasts T-shirt
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For every two year/model submissions we accept from you, you
will earn a chance in the drawing. Don't worry, if you only
come up with one you still receive a chance.

Inaccurate year/model groups will be disqualified (ie, sending
1975-1979 F-Series instead of 1973-1979 F-Series).

Hurry!!! You don't want someone to beat you with a year/model
group submission!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:46:24 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Year/model submission list page


The list of year/model groups already submitted can
be found at:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/websites/48.html

This page will be updated frequently over the next
few days.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: D60(torque)
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:03:31 -0500


> From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
> Subject: Re: D60(torque)

As Azie says it may not have any measurable
> affect on the life of the bearings.  so can only "Guess" at the outcome
and in my
> experience I would say it probably won't cause any serious damage but I'm
a
> perfectionist and it somet....ok....quite often comes out in my comments
:-)
Azzie wrote

> > Well technically it does add pressure to the bearing - Minute,
> > but there.  Anytime you jam one nut to another you tend to
> > "take up the slack" between the inner nuts threads and the threads
> > of the bolt it is threaded onto, so it does have a very slight
> > effect.

For what it's worth, this is the exact responce I was solliciting.  Thanks
guy's!  I generally know how to do things, I just very seldom question as to
why.  IE; I know what torque to set the D60 inner nut to, rebuilt many, I
never questioned it.  I also know that tightning up that outer nut doesnt
hurt a doggone thing that a non engineering person would even think about.
As far as the average mechanic\shadetree is concerned, this is a non issue.
However, after being on this list for a few years, I started to question
things I took for granted.  I just learned from my Math Instructor that 1+1
does not = 2, thats one of my homework assignments tonight. Any help with
this before 6pm tommorrow??  :;)

Rich


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From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Falling debre
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:57:59 -0800


Ain't it just the beat all. Here goes Azie, buys Ford, works on them
dutifully and becomes loveable, even to cats, and what does he do. Complain.
Whuts th' wurld comin tu.
Pat
72 Ranger parts truck
73 F250 4X4
75 F250 4X4
78 150 W/overloads
79 F250 4X4 Dream Truck in progress

"Azie L. Magnusson" wrote:
>
I'm under a vehicle - both> hands completely occupied and can not possibly
let go and that D___ cat gets on my chest and sticks its A__ in my face and
begins to purr..

> God I'd like to kill that cat.
>
> Azie Magnusson
> Ardmore, Al.




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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:45:51 EST
Subject: Re: FTE PayPal

In a message dated 3/5/2001 9:24:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:


> I've got the PayPal info there, the FTE address and our
> phone number.  Feel to call me on my nickel using our toll
> free number on that page and we can shoot the breeze.  To
> those who'd can't give or would rather not give, no sweat.
>
> If there is anything I can do to express my thanks to
> the list, let me know.
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>

   Ken, You Sir are way beyond cool . !!My hats off to you ...



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From: SevnD2 aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:43:17 EST
Subject: Re: In Your Face!


In a message dated 03/07/2001 1:23:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
vhhuston switch.com writes:

<<  My white German Shepherd will not
associate with such riff raff, but she does love to ride in my truck AND
chase cats. >>

My Dad used to have a white German shepherd. A very intimidating dog! He was
from a litter that was bred for the police to use. The police needed all but
the one my dad had. He could jump and clear the side of the bed of the old
longbed 65 styleside we had back then.

That reminds me. This truck had what I thought was a 289 and we swapped it
for a fresh 302. It bolted right up. Later I was told the 1965 trucks never
had a 289 from the factory. So, which is it?

Rollie



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From: "1970fordguy" <1970fordguy home.com>
Subject: Lifter Tick
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:13:12 -0800


I am wondering if there is anything I can do to resove my lifter tick
problem.  The ticking doesn't start until the motor is warm, and then won't
stop until the motor is stone cold.  I changed oil about 1000 miles ago, and
the problem went away for awhile.  I know that I need to do a lifter/cam
replacement, I am just looking for a temp fix, until I can get the wife
talked into me spending the time and $ on probally a rebuild.  Thank you for
any help.  Would a 20-50W oil resolve problems, I feel that I might have to
do oil change every 1000 miles or so.  Oh, the motor is a 429? I beleive.

Jody
1970fordguy home.com



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:48:33 EST
Subject: Re: D60(torque)

In a message dated 3/7/01 7:18:58 PM Central Standard Time, gpeters3 lni.net
writes:


> .  Again, it goes back to having that natural "Feel" for
> mechanical things that helps you to "See" what needs to be done as well as
> having a book to go by.
>
>

All technical jargone aside, if you have never lost an axle or blown out a
bearing then you must be doing something right.  I know that I for one can
not be that lucky that often.


Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:04:09 EST
Subject: Re: unreachable locations

In a message dated 03/07/01 3:03:51 AM Eastern Standard Time,
burgess4 gte.net writes:


> Hi Tim ,
>
> When working on my old 77 Town Car ,wrenches and nuts always fell down
> past the motor and the hoses and stuff and ALWAYS rested on the frame
> or some other nook or cranny ... nothing ever fell clear to the floor !!
>
> dPrasse
>
>

Do a frame off resto and look at teh tools you culd recover!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George  M in Fl.



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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 08:12:44 -0600
Subject: Re: 1979 F-150 Questions
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> might want to check if your radiator is big enough,
> if you are getting good coolant flow through the radiator core,
> (if 1/3 of yer core is clogged with debris, that engine will get hot,
> but water will still flow),
> is your water pump in good shape .. a worn water pump might not be
> pulling the coolant through effectively enough

I have a two year old 4 core new special order super cooler radiator. New
water pump at about the same time. I have replaced a freeze plug since then
and my cooling system is clean clean clean.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 08:26:37 -0600
From: John Strauss <jstrauss inetport.com>
Subject: Re: Tempest/LeMans


>The Buick Special, Olds F-85 and Pontiac Tempest were introduced either
>in 1960 or 1961 as the newest GM compacts -- competing with the Falcon, I
>think, like the Chevy II.  All 3 cars were offered with the
>aluminum-block 215 V8 that GM later sold to British Leyland.  The Tempest
>had the Slant-four-half-of-a-389 engine.  The Olds and Buick both had a
>conventional trans mounted right to the engine -- the Tempest had a rear
>transaxle and a swing-axle rear suspension similar to the early Corvairs.
> The 1963 Tempest still had the transaxle but looked like a smaller
>version of the 1964 (very similar to the 1965).
>
>In 1965, Pontiac came out with the GTO as a high-performance upgrade to
>the Tempest.  The LeMans was a sporty two-door Tempest.  At different
>times it came with an overhead cam six cylinder, a 326 V8, a 350 V8 (in
>later years) and maybe other engines, I'm not really sure.
>
>All the cars starting in 1964 (Tempest or LeMans) were conventional
>configurations -- front engines with the trans mounted directly to them,
>then a driveshaft going to a rear differential.
>
>I'm pretty sure this is all correct...... it's been awhile.
>
>FTE content?  Damned if I know.....
>
Let me help you with the FTE content.  I find it quite ironic or at least
interesting that the 215 Buick aluminum V-8 is now...a FORD.  Buick did
indeed sell the rights to that engine to British Leyland.  BL used it in
several cars and also in the Land Rover.  Later, a heavily modified version
was used in the Range Rover and is still in there to this day.  Who now
owns Rover?  FoMoCo.
  _
_| ~~.  John Strauss
\, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
  \(    Texas Fight!


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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Tempest/LeMans
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:40:56 -0800


<snip>
> >FTE content?  Damned if I know.....
> >
> Let me help you with the FTE content.  I find it quite ironic
> or at least
> interesting that the 215 Buick aluminum V-8 is now...a FORD.
> Buick did
> indeed sell the rights to that engine to British Leyland.  BL
> used it in
> several cars and also in the Land Rover.  Later, a heavily
> modified version
> was used in the Range Rover and is still in there to this
> day.  Who now
> owns Rover?  FoMoCo.
>    _
>  _| ~~.  John Strauss
>  \, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
>    \(    Texas Fight!
>

Sounds like 6 degrees of separation. ;-)  Or that game where you can prove
that every actor is connected to Kevin Bacon somehow.  Actually I find this
quite interesting.  Here's a question for you.  How exactly did this "rope"
flexible drive shaft work?  What was it made of?  Was it as bad an idea as
it sounds?  (I'm sure noone's using it now.)

Tom H.

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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 11:25:04 -0600
From: Doss Halsey <halsey isl-inc.com>
Subject: Re: D60 (Torque)


Gary,

>Well, if we look at it like this.....The book calls for zero to ten
>thousandths axial play which essentially means that for every 1/1000" you
>move the nut inward you change the axial (not radial or diagonal) free play
>by that much.

I'm with you. I am looking for a description of how to set that wheel
bearing axial freeplay on my D60. On most other vehicles, like you
mentioned, you torque the nut to some nominal torque (25-50 ft lbs) just to
seat the bearings, then you back the castled nut off 1/4 turn and find the
nearest cotter pin hole. Got a recommendation for the full floater? Can I
feel 0.010" axial freeplay? Tell me how it feels. I expect to just be able
to feel a slight, almost imperceptable clunk at about 0.004" or
thereabouts. At 0.010" I think I should definitely feel a clunk. Perhaps I
should put a dial indicator on it and calibrate myself? What do you
recommend? I want to drive it 1000 miles round trip to Pigeon Forge. I've
had wheel bearings fail from overtightening in only 100 miles (when I was
young and thought I knew everything).

Doss Halsey
'67 F250 Camper Special



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From: "Keith" <a2jkeith gci.net>
Subject: Re: Block Questions
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:56:11 -0900


Ok I got a question for yall, I was working on my truck yesterday at a
buddies house and by the way he is a Ford FREEK he has a 56 F100 beautiful
condition a 65 Galaxie 500 and a couple of old TBirds as well as a 77 F250.
Anyway we were looking at my engine and he did a double take and says, what
engine is that. Well being an assumtion, I said 390. Well apparently I do
not have a 390 he said I have a 352 Ypipe, now I dont know what this engine
is, but he had one in his Thunderbird in the front yard, and to tell the
honest truth, I couldnt see much difference between the two engines. Now it
just so happens that my valve covers say THUNDERBIRD right across em. So I
am wondering how hard it is to tell the difference, buddy said something
about exhaust ports and something else. Also what is the difference between
it and a 390 as far as the internal guts of the engine, and anything else
that may drastically change. Thanks alot,
Keith
71 F250 Tbird powered 4x4


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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:15:30 -0600


1967 to 1972 F Series!! :-)

Jason Kendrick


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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all Ford/Merc/Lincoln
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:25:14 -0600


Gotta have two model/lines?
1970 to 1977 Maverick
The Maverick was actually introduced in April 1969, but it was a '70 model.

Jason Kendrick


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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:12:09 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: Block Questions


The 66 F100, which I have, came with the 352 V8 option, so it is still a
Ford truck engine. It was used more in cars, though.

Virgil



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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:29:25 -0600
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]clicking starter
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


Quick question. The answer doesn't have to be as quick. :-) When I turn the
key, all I get is clicking, no starter engagement. Solenoid, right? The
battery is fully charged, about 2 months old, and I just verified that it is
charged. Interior lights are bright and stay bright during clicking sound. I
guess at 130000 miles, the starter should be replaced, too, huh? I guess you
figured out it isn't Henry, it's a neighbor's 79 Ford F100 very similar to
Henry. I could swap parts, but I figure a quick question is easier since
it's raining cats and dogs (don't start again..puleese) outside at the
moment. TIA.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Erik Marquez" <bronco78 alaska.com>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]clicking starter
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:32:23 -0900


yup, solenoid or bat cable / connection would my starting point

Erik Marquez
BlackHorse bronco78.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bronco78.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: John LaGrone <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Thursday, March 08, 2001 11:27 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]clicking starter


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>Quick question. The answer doesn't have to be as quick. :-) When I turn the
>key, all I get is clicking, no starter engagement. Solenoid, right? The
>battery is fully charged, about 2 months old, and I just verified that it
is
>charged. Interior lights are bright and stay bright during clicking sound.
I
>guess at 130000 miles, the starter should be replaced, too, huh? I guess
you
>figured out it isn't Henry, it's a neighbor's 79 Ford F100 very similar to
>Henry. I could swap parts, but I figure a quick question is easier since
>it's raining cats and dogs (don't start again..puleese) outside at the
>moment. TIA.
>
>-- John
>jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
>1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
>http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
>Dearborn iron rules!!!!
>
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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:05:56 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all



>
>Gotta have two model/lines?
>1970 to 1977 Maverick
>The Maverick was actually introduced in April 1969, but it was a '70 model.
>
>Jason Kendrick

Email submissions to the address provided in the
posting.

Thanks,
Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts




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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: D60 (Torque)
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:09:01 -0800


Well, you can feel 0.010" pretty easily with the wheel on but with the wheel
off, the grease will overpower your leverage factor unless you are a gorilla
so I learned a few things over the years too :-)  I now install the wheel
before testing for axial free play to give myself the best advantage over
the grease and I tighten the inner nut until there is no free play and back
it out about 1/4 turn and tighten the outer nut and check again.  I keep
making small adjustments like this untill I "Just" take out all the freeplay
with the outer nut torqued to spec..  As I said, I used to leave them a
little looser with drum brakes and on the rear still do but on the front I
make zero free play my goal.  The best way to feel any free play is to rock
the wheel back and forth in a diagonal so you can feel when either or both
outer diameters of the wheel move.  I close my eyes and concentrate (but I
don't hum :-)) and try to get it right on the money.  Using an indicator you
would have to have some way to move the wheel in and out without rocking it
to get an accurate measurement which is all but impossible without a special
machine of some kind so the hand method is considered by most to be quite
good enough in this application :-)  The bottom line here is......don't
listen to the book, blindly!  Use your noggin.  Bearings must be free to
turn without generating friction and the more preload you put on them the
less like a bearing they are able to perform up to the point of self
destructing.  Again, the ideal for most automotive appliications is Zero
freeplay and zero preload.  The closer you can get it set up to that the
better they will last :-)

Typically, when round objects are heated the circumferance will grow faster
than the solid shaft inside it so typically, clearances increase as it heats
up but not always.  This is just a rule of thumb to keep in mind when
adjusting bearings in general.  This phenomenon is based on the "Coefficient
of linear Expansion" which says that material will expand x amount for each
degree of temp change per linear measurement unit, usually CM in science.
What this means to us is that a solid shaft of about 1.5" will expand based
on the 1.5" diameter but a doughnut shape will expand based on it's
circumferance which is at least 3.14 times the diameter so if you lightly
pressed a ring on a shaft made of the same material and heat the shaft and
ring in an oven the ring will become loose.  This principle is used when
shrinking the outer ring on a flywheel or removing it for instance and the
thinner the ring is the more dramatic the change because there is less
material to expand inward and outward to offset the circumferential
change...........Is that clear???  Linear expansion actually moves in all
directions at the same time like pressure in a tire, every part of the tire
feels the same pressure including the bottom where the contact patch is.

BTW, you do want to make sure that you are not feeling movement in the ball
joints etc. when doing this and with a little practice you will be able to
tell the difference :-)  I still look when in doubt to make sure :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> nearest cotter pin hole. Got a recommendation for the full floater? Can I
> feel 0.010" axial freeplay? Tell me how it feels. I expect to just be able
> to feel a slight, almost imperceptable clunk at about 0.004" or
> thereabouts. At 0.010" I think I should definitely feel a clunk. Perhaps I
> should put a dial indicator on it and calibrate myself?


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Lifter Tick
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:28:49 -0800


My first guess is that you are loosing oil pressure as the oil heats up and
at some point it is thin enough that it no longer pads the rocker/valve
interface enough to deaden the click.  Fixing the oil pressure issue may
help or it may actually be worn parts allowing too much movement in the
valve train.  I really can't remember any older engines which did not have
some clicking to them, hot or cold so, unless it's making some serious noise
or the clicking is a dull thunking rather than a high pitch clinking sound I
wouldn't worry too much.  If it started suddenly then I would check the
rocker nuts to be sure and also look for bent pushrods.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I am wondering if there is anything I can do to resove my lifter tick
> problem.  The ticking doesn't start until the motor is warm, and
> then won't
> stop until the motor is stone cold.  I changed oil about 1000
> miles ago, and
> the problem went away for awhile.


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Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 18:47:09 -0500
From: "William D. Poudrier" <vze259s7 verizon.net>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Need year/models of all


I hate to be a stickler but.  I take issue with 1968 - 1971 torino
and fairlane.

I think it should be  1968 - 1969  and 1970 - 1971  and, oh by the way
the 1970 falcon was really a fairlane.  The 1967 - 1969 falcon cars were
quite different from the from the fairlane.  Sort of like the mustang and
fairlane.

Also in the 1968/1969 torino/fairlane group add the 1969 Talladega!  ask me
how I know, grin!!

NEXT

1972 to 1979 TBird is wrong!

1972 to 1976    Built on the Lincoln continental chassis BIG 460 V8

1977 - 1980 were built on the 1972 up Torino chassis


1984 - 1988 Lincoln continental
1984 - 1992 Lincoln mark 7  RWD 5.0
1980 - 1986 Lincoln Town car
1987 - 1993 Lincoln Town car
1994 - 1999 Lincoln Town car  (mod motor)
1993 - 1999 Lincoln Mark VIII  FWD Mod Motor

1961 -1966 Lincoln continental
1968 - 1971 Lincoln Mark V

Just a start, Enjoy


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Value
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:56:35 -0600

Ox writes:  >>You couldn't give me a house in a yupp
neighborhood where I can't change my own oil in the driveway. <<

I knew we had something more than old Fords in common.  My kind
of guy.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: House pets
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:00:07 -0600

John LaG. writes:  >>So...put the cat in the house when you are working on the trucks. ;-)<<

Not My house.

>>- John
(1 cat, 6 dogs--all in the house. My pets don't annoy my neighbors; only I
am allowed that pleasure.)<<

To each his own.


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Rear springs
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:04:17 -0600

Ox writes:  >>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://id.yimg.com/d/712769f8/h/8c79f0da/Afrikad3-700.jpg<<


             LOL!!!

Gads!!!  Thought there for a minute I was back in N. Africa....  That is
a very common sight in that part of the world..Most 3rd world countries
have similar sights...

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Rear springs
Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:19:30 -0800

Gotta luv them 'mogs...

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

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