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61-79-list Digest Tue, 06 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 073

In This Issue:
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: MEMORY
Dual exhaust on inline six
Re: My outburst
Re: My outburst, Bandages...
Re: Ranger 302
Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Re: windshield leaks
Re: Rod orientation
Re: Torque of outer nut on D60
Half of a V8
teacher
Re: My Outburst
Falling debre
Shop Manuals
Re: 1979 F-150 Questions
Re: Shop Manuals
Re: Falling debre & cats
Re: Falling debre
Re: Falling debre
Re: Mechanics' bandages
FTE PayPal
Re: Half of a V8
Re: Torque of outer nut on D60
CLUB FTE
Fees for Lists
Big fat juicy junkyard scavenge in Fairfield!!!!!!
Re: My outburst
Re: unreachable locations

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:20:16 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/5/01 11:24:46 PM Central Standard Time,
kendrick mddc.com writes:


> Only to hold the questionably clean shop rag in place! :-)
>
>

that up there with getting battery acid in an open cut, hurts like hell but
closes the wound quick.


Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:22:14 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/5/01 11:29:47 PM Central Standard Time, Natp244 cs.com
writes:


> The BEST thing I've ever found for patching wounds in an emercency is....
> SUPER GLUE!  I doubt it's really the best thing as far as sanitation is
> considered, but it works- and you don't have to worry about the bandage
> getting wet and falling off.
>
>

They use that stuff in the operating room now.


Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:23:46 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/5/01 11:34:57 PM Central Standard Time,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:


> I still swear by
> Brake cleaner as a wound cleaner/antiseptic.
>
>

And I thought the batt. acid trick was rough.


Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: MEMORY
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:36:18 -0800


What I've seen over the years is that the person who remembers your name is
one who is genuinely interested in the person, rather than the conversation
you had Or.....he has a job in which it pays well to remember names so he
can impress customers later and generate more sales.  In my experience both
are salesmen.  On the one hand selling God's Kingdom and on the other hand
cars or whatever.  It always amazes me when I go to an assembly of ours and
one of the Circuit Overseers remembers my name having only met me once 2
years ago etc..  It always makes me feel ashamed that I can't remember his
so I am trying to develope a system to help me do that, just for my own
satisfaction if nothing else :-)

It really is a sign that you have respect for a person when you remember his
name.  I know I always feel respected when someone remembers mine :-).  If I
make it to PF this year I plan to work very hard at this in case I meet them
again or have an opportunity to chat on a list etc..  To me, meeting people
at the shows is the highlight because they always have something interesting
to add to my knowledge base and because I enjoy meeting and talking with
people.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> My job sent me to a "Listening and Memory Development Class years ago.  As
> in several training classes I've attended since, the instructors love to
> show that they can remember every students name after lunch of the first
> day.


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From: "davewild ford-trucks.net" <davewild ford-trucks.net>
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:36:25 GMT
Subject: Dual exhaust on inline six


I know some one here has done this before, putting the newer style dual exhaust
manifolds on a 300 six. I was wondering how the pipes are run from the manifolds
out to the rear of the truck especially clearing the starter. I am putting a
Fuel injected 300 out of a newer truck into my 78' 2wd and want to know if I
should use the stock manifolds or if i should look into a set of headers. If
some one has some good pitures or something could you send them my way.

Thanks,
David Wild


I would also like to add that this list has helped me in many ways such as finding
people in my area with things I have needed. Without this I would have no one
to ask these kind of questions. (Everyone around here thinks I'm crazy for putting
my time into this old truck). But you guy's give me hope and confirm that I
am not completely nuts. My thanks goes out to the admin Mr. Ken Payne, without
this site I would not be exposed to this kind of knowledge, and believe me I
need all the help I can get

Keep up the good work.
Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:38:08 EST
Subject: Re: My outburst

In a message dated 3/6/01 8:00:20 AM Central Standard Time,
vhhuston switch.com writes:


> . I don't know about anyone else, but I
> cannot ever work on any vechiles without drawing blood at least once.
>
>

Thats paying omage to the vechile gods


Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:04:56 -0600
Subject: Re: 1979 F-150 Questions
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> The truck occasionally runs a little on the hot side.  On the original
> gauge that reads "C  Normal  H", it's often on the "a" or "l".

Sounds exactly like my Henry. Many times my problem can be attributed to
variances in the voltage regulator for the gauge cluster (EVR?). Mine is the
original.

>  Dad wants me to order and install a 160
> degree thermostat, is that a good idea?

I have one. The truck runs colder during the cooler times of the year, just
takes longer to reach the top of the gauge when idling with the air
conditioner running.

> The aforementioned lab instructor
> also suggested electric fans, but since the truck didn't come with them,
> Dad is against it (wants to stay original), though I may go with an
> auxiliary fan on front of the radiator anyway if nothing else works.

I'm thinking this is the only recourse left. I have the stock shroud, but an
after market ss flex fan. I just don't pull enough air at idle. If you have
the stock fan and clutch, look for a stock shroud, then consider replacing
the fan clutch. The its electric fans. Keep us posted as you try things.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: My outburst, Bandages...
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:14:10 -0800


Gentlemen, this is a scary subject!  A nurse once told me that the reason
mechanics don't get infections is because even bacteria can't live in grease
and oil but we know that is not quite true which is why I keep a box of Real
Bandaids in my shop, tool box, bathroom and anywhere I am working so they
are handy.  I always get the cloth ones as they stay on the best.  Recently
I tried some of that synthetic skin on my nose where my glasses were driving
me nuts and, while it has a place, that was not it :-(  Regular cloth tape
worked the best but who wants to walk around in the store with tape all over
his nose.....

Super glue works where it doesn't have to cover a large area, to hold the
skin together etc. but is very hard and brittle so won't flex at all.  This
is a good idea but I haven't actually tried it yet.  I find that as I get
older I don't cut myself as much as I used to :-)

Some shop degreasers and cleaners have chemicals in them which are extremely
toxic when they find a way into the blood stream so I would sincerely
recommend that you don't use them to clean wounds, that's what soap and
peroxide are for.  I realize that there is a lot of sillyness going on here
but remember that there are teenagers listening in here too.  I'm sorry to
be such a wet blanket but I just go back from the hospital with my wife who
had an Arterial Gram today due to Arterial blockage in her brain and
cleanliness was right up there in my mind :-)  She survived the procedure
with no stroke symptoms and will be going on blood thinners so again the
talk of cuts raised my hair a tad.

Seriously, we've all used silly stuff to stop a cut from bleeding so we
could keep working but it only takes a few minutes to clean it properly and
put a decent bandage on it.  I knew a fellow once who seemed to be as
healthy as any of us that got a cut working on his truck and wound up with a
serious infection, blood poisoning that ran up his arm and had to be
treated.  The doctor told him that it could have resulted in gangreen if not
treated quickly.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I use duct tape all the time, sometimes with a scrap of rag,
> sometimes by itself, depending on how much bleeding is going on.
> Electrical
> tape also works, but not as good. I don't know about anyone else, but I
> cannot ever work on any vechiles without drawing blood at least once.
>
> Virgil


------------------------------

From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Ranger 302
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:16:38 -0800


I know a guy who put a 460 in a Ranger....course he was drag racing it :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> The 302 is a tight fit in a Ranger,


------------------------------

From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:19:17 -0800


I have the 68 manual set so will take look in the AM if I can remember......

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I seem to remember Gary's explanation being mostly on target, but torque
> specs and confirmation would be nice. I couldn't find it in my '67 shop
> manual.


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: windshield leaks
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:21:28 -0800


Yeah, I used the felpro gasket cement on mine the first time around and that
was pretty silly (it's what I had lying around) :-)  Use the good black 3-M
stuff and lot's of it :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> couple of times. I used the contact cement sparingly. In case I needed to
> remove the seal I didn't want to destroy them. Bad decision.
>
> -- John


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Rod orientation
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:35:43 -0800


Seems like I've seen this too.  You'd think the fire would burn it out but
apparently it doesn't.  If I remember correctly my 460 forged pistons came
with an arrow either embossed or stamped into the head of the piston.  I
would not stamp the number very close to the edge near the ring groove since
that is the thinnest area and prone to get hotter than other areas but if
you sand the burrs off I don't think there would be a problem with marking
them that way.  I've seen factory stamps in them before but typically they
are shallow and the characters are large enough that there are no thin areas
of the character to get hot in that case.  Most cheap stamps would leave
some thin areas in the number which could, if too deep cause them to over
heat and cause detonation so care in that regard is certainly recommended
:-)  Care in actually stamping them is also recommended of course so you
don't damage the top land or skirt etc..

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I'm not completely sure I agree with your piston stamping, but
> I'm not disagreeing.
> I usually write the # on top of them with a "junkyard marker" and
> it stays there.
> Seems to get burned in or something, but it stays legible forever
> I think.  I have
> those markers in both yellow and white.
>
> Azie Magnusson


------------------------------

From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Torque of outer nut on D60
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:53:10 -0800


The one I remember only locked the top one as I recall and the washer is,
indeed, keyed to the spindle as you say which is what prevents the outer nut
from moving.  Typically this is enough to prevent loosening since the torque
locks all three parts together and even if they should loosen up a tad the
washer keeps them pretty close to the original position so bearing preload
isn't affected too much but this should never happen if you torque them
properly and bend the tabs and the key is in good condition on the tab
washer.  On the 44's only the torque keeps the outer nut in place, the inner
nut is locked by a pin in a keyed spacer which is, again, sandwiched between
two nuts.  In that case though the torque is relatively high, about 80# as I
recall.

Really, the friction between the three parts is what does virtually all the
work and the pin or tab is only there as a precaution to prevent the wheel
coming off.....just in case :-)  This is a different strategy from the
typical front spindle of a car or 2wd truck which is just a tad over finger
tight and held loosely with a cup and cotter pin.  Full floating axles can't
be done that way because you can't run a cotter pin through the spindle tube
so the other method is used.  They also are typically subjected to greater
forces so if the nuts were left loose more wear would take place in the
threads of the spindle and nut eventually causing them to fail.

Grinding wheels which can be subjected to some serious torque when hard
plunge grinding operations are done only have one nut and one keyed washer
and there is no other retaining or safety device and the torque is much less
on the nut than on a dana 44.  The wheel is not keyed so could turn if not
tight enough but they seem to hang in there pretty well with nothing but
friction to hold them.  The keyed washer prevents either the nut or the
wheel from moving in relation to the washer using only friction in both
cases.

I'm stating the principles as I understand them, not arguing with anyone's
interpretation or opinion and not stating any book explainations here either
so please accept it as my "Opinion" :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Gary writes:  >>The tab washer is sandwiched
> between them and that outer nut better darn well be tight or you will have
> trouble......<<
>
> Naw.  You bend some of the tabs inward and some of them outward.
> The tabbed washer is tounged to fit the grove in the spindle so no
> rotation.. The two nuts are effectively locked together and to
> the spindle.
> Right??
>
> Azie Magnusson


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Half of a V8
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:03:24 -0600

Rich writes:  >>Pontiac Tempest <<

Ah yes!!!  Tempest it was, and not LeMans as I wrote previously.
Memory is really fading.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: teacher
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:06:22 -0600

Dennis P. writes:  >>(how do you like that english teacher) I like him
just fine (and his 1962 Ford Trucks, too...)<<

And I could have sworn I inserted a comma between English and
Teacher.

Gotta agree with that liking the '62.


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Tim Bowman" <tkbowman qwest.net>
Subject: Re: My Outburst
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:21:55 -0800


I thought the wrench always fell into an unreachable location like up around
your shoulder or some other place that you can't reach!!  The corollary is
that nuts, bolts and washers always roll just outside one's reach!

Tim Bowman
tkbowman qwest.net
website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
(Pacific NW Carshow information & more)

<snipped from digest>
Re: My outburst

In a message dated 3/6/2001 2:08:34 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:


> Forgot to mention that all this is occurring at the same
> time you're eating dirty black gunk that's raining on your
> face when the wrench slipped

Ever notice how your hand can be over your stomach when layin under your
truck, but somehow, without fail, the stuff your wrench is knocking off
always defies physics, and falls at the 45 degree angle, with perfect aim I
might add, to nail you right in the eye, unless of course your wearing
eyewear, then they stay perfectly clean and your teeth get a nice greasing.


------------------------------

From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Falling debre
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:23:39 -0600

Darrell writes:  >>Ever notice how your hand can be over your stomach when layin under your
truck, but somehow, without fail, the stuff your wrench is knocking off
always defies physics, and falls at the 45 degree angle, with perfect aim I
might add, to nail you right in the eye, unless of course your wearing
eyewear, then they stay perfectly clean and your teeth get a nice greasing.<<

Been spying on me at work haven't you.
My daughter has a cat(I dislike cats very much, but she is my daughter).
Outside cat.  No pets in my house. Very strict rule here.
One thing I can always be sure of is this fact:  I'm under a vehicle - both
hands completely occupied and can not possibly let go and that D___ cat
gets on my chest and sticks its A__ in my face and begins to purr..

God I'd like to kill that cat.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


------------------------------

From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Shop Manuals
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:18 -0800


Dudes
How do you get to the CD-Rom shop manuals for anything later than  1972?
There is no next page button after 72 and if I use the search function it
comes back with no matches.  Any help?

Tom H.

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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: 1979 F-150 Questions
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:18 -0800


> Hey guys and gals,
>
> As I solve more problems on my Dad's 1979 Ford F-150, I find
> more things to be fixed.  Fortunately, these problems have
> gone from necessities to niceties.
>

Cool, now that it drives the rest is on a convienence basis.

> The truck occasionally runs a little on the hot side.
<snip>

With what you have said I would first try to find a stock fan shroud that
fits the radiator and position the fan properly in it.  I remember hearing
that the best position of the fan to shroud is with the shroud covering half
the thickness of the pitch of the fan.  IE half the fan in and half out.  It
seems reasonable that if the fan is not inside the shroud to some extent
that the airflow created by the fad could be moving around the radiator.  Or
the fan could just be churning up the air under the hood without really
moving it.  If you do decide to use spacers on the radiator be sure to use
something to block the gaps around the perimeter of the radiator.  You want
to force the air throught the core and not allow it to go around the edges.

After that (or maybe even before) I would probably get a good mechanical
temperature guage and verify that the truck is running hot.  It could be the
instrument voltage regulator is causing too much current to flow and forcing
a false hot reading.

A third thing to try is have the radiator rodded out.  If you pull the
radiator yourself should be able to get it done for less than $50.

A 160 degree thermostat would probably be my last choice.  At best it's a
bandaid to mask a real problem.

>
> Next question:  Sometimes, the electric system seems to blink
> out.
<snip>

Check all your grounds.  Take the connections apart and make sure they are
clean.  The other thing to check would be the supply wire.  There should be
an orange (it is on my 76) wire about 12 or 14 guage wire that supplies 12V
for the rest of the truck.  Look for it on the passenger side fender.  I
can't remember where exactly it connects but I think it is on the battery
side of the starter solenoid.  There is also a plug connection under the
passenger side of the dash.  Make sure these connections are clean and
solid.

> Next question:  I fixed the interior light by replacing it,
> and now it turns on by turning the light switch.  But, the
> inside light should come on when I open the door.
<snip>

Shouldn't be too hard.  The switch unscrews from the jamb and the wire comes
out with it.  The shop manual shows twisting the wire before installing the
switch so that when it is screwed into place it unwinds.  Just unscrew the
switch, pull the wires off it, plug in the new switch and reinstall.  There
are several sources. Try Ford also LMC Truck, Obsolete Ford, AutoKrafters.

> Next question:  I ran into a guy at NAPA who had just bought
> a 1979 that was hit in the front corner, bent frame and
> totaled.  He bought it for the bed for himself, the motor for
> his father in law.  He said it had a great factory air
> conditioner in it, and I could come see it myself if I'd like
> (he'd start the truck and let me test it out).
<snip>

If the AC works well you might want to try to pull it out as a closed
system.  We wouldn't want to release and of that 'BAAAAAD' R-12 to the
atmosphere would we.  You would need to pull the condensor, pump, drier, and
evaporator as one unit.  The worst par is you would probably have to either
cut it out of the radiator support or pull the support with the rest of the
system.  You would also need the air box under the dash and under the hood.
If you did swap the dash then the controls would already be in place.

> Sorry for such a long message, <snip>

No problem Joe.  Good luck.

> Joe Hartwell
> 1988 Ford Ranger 2.0L
> 1968 Ford F100 360
> 1997 Harley Sportster 883
>
>
>


Tom H

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Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 20:54:09 -0700
From: "William (Tony) Whited" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Shop Manuals


They are available, but I believe ken took them off the web site because
there is a backlog, I know I ordered mine a month or 2 ago and I am still
waiting.  They were supposed to get a shipment in March and after that Ken
was going to put them back in the store.  Ken if I have mis-spoke please
correct me.

"Hog, Tom (Portland)" wrote:

> Dudes
> How do you get to the CD-Rom shop manuals for anything later than  1972?
> There is no next page button after 72 and if I use the search function it
> comes back with no matches.  Any help?
>
> Tom H.

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:21:28 -0500
From: David Wadson <wadsond air.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Falling debre & cats


>My daughter has a cat(I dislike cats very much, but she is my daughter).
>Outside cat.  No pets in my house. Very strict rule here.
>One thing I can always be sure of is this fact:  I'm under a vehicle - both
>hands completely occupied and can not possibly let go and that D___ cat
>gets on my chest and sticks its A__ in my face and begins to purr..

Despite having spent the past 3 days extricating a cat from the ceiling in
the basement of my new house (which I've finally cat-proofed), I still
think cats are good pets to have. Not only do they require far less
maintenance than a dog, they are also great lazy pets. Whereas the dog has
to be let outside, taken for walks, etc., the cat will be content to lie on
the couch with you all weekend while you watch all the automotive shows on
TNN.

Plus, a dog is not going to keep squirrels and other vermin out of your
garage! Very irritating to have a squirrel nesting inside your truck...at
least the little bugger didn't chew up the seat...

I really ought to get outside and fix my garage door opener this
week...it'll be a little awkward wrestling an engine in through the side
door. My 4x4 is making all sorts of nasty noises while driving on the
highway...the motor will be dead by summer I thinks...


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces.
"PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking.
"PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into...
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada



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From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars burgoyne.com>
Subject: Re: Falling debre
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:23:00 -0700


> Been spying on me at work haven't you.
> My daughter has a cat(I dislike cats very much, but she is my daughter).
> Outside cat.  No pets in my house. Very strict rule here.
> One thing I can always be sure of is this fact:  I'm under a vehicle -
both
> hands completely occupied and can not possibly let go and that D___ cat
> gets on my chest and sticks its A__ in my face and begins to purr..
>
> God I'd like to kill that cat.

ROTFLMAO.....
I have a dog who had the uncanny instinct of know when you could do
absolutely nothing to stop a complete face washing.  I broke her of it,
though I couldn't tell you how.

Rich


------------------------------

From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:31:40 EST
Subject: Re: Falling debre

<<God I'd like to kill that cat.>>

Well I tell ya, Cats are great pets.  They are relatively clean, always there
to calm your nerves when ya need em too, and if all else fails, they taste
like Chicken!  Anyone wanna swap recipees?

Darrell &




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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:40:45 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

Dont hold me to it, but I seem to remember something about Super Glue being
origionally designed to replace sutuers (stiches) in operations, etc (medical
type stuff). Cant remember why, but it didnt work quite as well as they
wanted. But yes, it does work well on Fords. Even put a few Bomber parts
togather during my service days. Wonderfull Stuff it is!

George M in Fl.


In a message dated 03/06/01 12:29:47 AM Eastern Standard Time, Natp244 cs.com
writes:


> The BEST thing I've ever found for patching wounds in an emercency is....
> SUPER GLUE!  I doubt it's really the best thing as far as sanitation is
> considered, but it works- and you don't have to worry about the bandage
> getting wet and falling off.
>
> I learned it from watching a hog hunter "glue up" a couple of his dogs that
> got cut up by a boar.
>
> We hauled them home in a Ford truck.
>





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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: FTE PayPal
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:55:43 -0500


As suggested,
> I've set up a PayPal.com account (that service is really
> COOL!) and I've got a page for it:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/Web_store/donate.html
>
> I've got the PayPal info there, the FTE address and our
> phone number.  Feel to call me on my nickel using our toll
> free number on that page and we can shoot the breeze.  To
> those who'd can't give or would rather not give, no sweat.
>
> If there is anything I can do to express my thanks to
> the list, let me know.
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Well, just my luck.  I order a CD for my truck, 4-5 week delivery, I try
your pay pal link several times tonight, My browser times out.  I call your
phone number, I get voice mail.  I'm trying here.....)))))))))))  Just want
to express my thanks as well!  lol

Rich


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Half of a V8
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:02:07 -0500


Rich writes:  >>Pontiac Tempest <<
>
> Ah yes!!!  Tempest it was, and not LeMans as I wrote previously.
> Memory is really failing
========================================================
they were both the same car Le Mans was just the sportier version of the
tempest
gordon



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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: Torque of outer nut on D60
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:17:46 -0500



> From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
> Subject: Torque of outer nut on D60
> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:48:48 -0600
>
> Gary writes:  >>The tab washer is sandwiched
> between them and that outer nut better darn well be tight or you will have
> trouble......<<
>
> Naw.  You bend some of the tabs inward and some of them outward.
> The tabbed washer is tounged to fit the grove in the spindle so no
> rotation.. The two nuts are effectively locked together and to the
spindle.
> Right??
>
> Azie Magnusson
> Ardmore, Al.

Correct Azzie!  There is absolutley no way that the outer nut can add to the
torque, or pressure if you will, to the wheel bearings.  I thought I read
somewhere on the list that someone said that the outer nut affected bearing
pre-load.  If this was said on this list, I cant wait for your disertation
explaining this phenomenon:)))

Rich


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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: CLUB FTE
Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:32:29 -0500


Can someboby explain to me what exactly club FTE is all about?  Other than a
Tshirt, what is its function?  I was trying to donate to that #$*&  pay pal
earlier with no luck.  If I can give the same amount of money and get
something in return....Hmm, Yea, I'm greedy. :)

Rich


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From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Fees for Lists
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:40:23 -0800

Don't really like to agree with this one, but I'm afraid I must. The
promotion of the FTE memberships, donations and shopping at the online store
is the answer, at least so far from what I see.
Pat
72 Ranger parts truck
73 F250 4X4
75 F250 4X4
78 150 W/overloads
79 F250 4X4 Dream Truck in progress



From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:01:19 -0500

> Anyway, while I and others might not mind paying for this wonderful
> experience, I suspect charging for it may ultimately stop list growth
> and even cause its untimely end...

Charging a fee for being on the listserv-style discussion list, I think
would kill it very quickly.








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From: "Karl Streich" <fordlist hotmail.com>
Subject: Big fat juicy junkyard scavenge in Fairfield!!!!!!
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:05:03 -0800


Well, I done it, $280 bill from the junkyard :)  Got LOTSA parts though...

For the BMW 2002:
Sunroof roof without any components, Kinda weird to look in my truck bed and
see a 2002 roof:>
Drivers door, needs work
Deck lid, perfect

For the '79 Cherokee
Windshield
4bbl carb and manifold

For the '87 Trans Am
Console parts
A/C knob

For the '77 F250
Bed light

Honorable mentions, still in the junkyard...
'75 2002 parts car, this is about as gone as a car gets :) all most
compleetly striped
Passanger door (probably crushed)
rear glass and 1/4 windows
rear clip
floor pannels
Motor with camcover off
subframes mostly complete,
'77 Jeep cherokee, fairly fresh and mostly there
Early 80's wagoneer about 1/2 there
ford trucks, way too many there...
GM F bodys (cammero/firebird) 1 very fresh row, one 5.0 even has most of the
TPI setup left, I'd slap it on a small block if I had one lying arround
without TPI...


Photos comming soon:)
Happy thrashing!
Karl

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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 02:18:59 -0500
From: Ted Wnorowski <theodore ford-trucks.net>
Subject: Re: My outburst


At 04:43 PM 3/6/01 -0500, you wrote:


>Even better.... the best way to forget pain from busting
>your knuckles is to bang your head on the underside of the
>transmission.
>
>Ken Payne
>

        No, no, no, outside, bottom edge of door. It concentrates the pain
in a long & narrow spot and makes for an unusual lump.

Ted Wnorowski  Flat Rock, OH
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://theodore.clubfte.com/
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wnorowski.com/
mailto:theodore ford-trucks.net
' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed
' 63 F-100 parts truck
' 66 F-250 352 4 speed flatbed










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Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:59:41 -0800
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 ....


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