Received: with LISTAR (v1.0.0; list 61-79-list); Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:44:48 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:44:48 -0500 (EST)
From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list digest users <listar ford-trucks.com>
Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2001 #71
Precedence: list

==========================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck  Mailing  List

Visit our  web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com

To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject  of  the
message.
==========================================================

Serious help restoring and maintaining your Ford truck!
----------------------------------------------------------
Ford Truck Enthusiasts carries hundreds of Ford licensed
reproduction decals to put that finishing touch on your
truck!

Air Cleaner Decals Interior Decals
Emission Decals Chassis Decals
Exterior Decals Body Decals
Valve Cover Decals Jack Decals
and much more, including Ford oval decals in several
sizes!

<a href="http://www.motorhaven.com/">
http://www.motorhaven.com/</a>

----------------------------------------------------------

------------------------------------
61-79-list Digest Mon, 05 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 071

In This Issue:
Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Re: radiator
Re: Ranger 302
Re: Changing bed on '67
Re: Where Is?
Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Re: radiator
Re: Uncomfortable....
Re: My outburst
FTE PayPal
Classifieds
The Economics of Ford Trucks
Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Re: FTE PayPal
Re: My outburst
MEMORY
Re: My outburst
Re: FTE PayPal
Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: Mechanics' bandages
Re: My outburst
Re: Mechanics' bandages

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:55:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Robert Trivitt <umberto97 yahoo.com>
Subject: Rear brakes 1968 F-250


The leak in my right rear brake cylinder has finally
gotten to the point where I have to do something about
it (plus the weather has finally gotten to the point
where I can work in the drievway.)  I went through
some old posts about brakes and found that a 2-9/16"
socket is needed to remove the retaining nut.  I took
the axle shaft out on Sunday and measured the nut at
2-7/16".  Can anyone confirm this nut size for me?  My
measurements are not always correct.  Normally I would
go out and buy both sockets, but I do not anticipate
needing both sizes very often!

The truck is a camper special, if that matters.

Thanks in advance.

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 12:49:00 -0700
From: "William Whited (Tony)" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: radiator


Darrell, The one I got is for my Super Camper Special and here in El Paso, TX she
stays way cool, almost too cool.

JUMPINFORD AOL.COM wrote:

> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
> touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
> http://www.motorhaven.com/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> In a message dated 3/5/2001 5:54:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:
>
> > Your price will be the same and it helps support this site.
> > They sell heater cores too, I bought one from them a long
> > time ago for my 67.
> >
> >
>
> Hey cool, Tweety needs one of those.  I never really cared till I drove the
> truck to northern nevada on a hunting trip.  I was in almost every clothing
> article possible, and still freezin my but, my buddy had crawled into his bag
> and gone to sleep.  Never in my life has a road trip been so miserable!!!
>
> Darrell & Tweety
>
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



------------------------------

From: "Matt" <draygo pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Ranger 302
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:29:15 -0800

Thanks, I'll forward that to him.

Matt

"Accomplishing the impossible only means the boss will add it to your
regular duties."

----- Original Message -----
From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:41 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Ranger 302


> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
> touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
> http://www.motorhaven.com/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> There is tons of swap info out in cyberspace.  A quick search turned up
>
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://trucks.about.com/autos/trucks/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%
> 2Fwww.rangerpowersports.com%2Ftech%2Fv8swaps%2F
>
> This would be a good place to start.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt [mailto:draygo pacifier.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 11:02 PM
> To: FTE Offroad-list; FTE 61-79
> Subject: [61-79-list] Ranger 302
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
> touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
> http://www.motorhaven.com/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Sorry guys, I know this is out of the "61-79" range, but I didn't wanna
> subscribe to the "mini's" for one question. A friend was asking me tonight
> if a 302 would bolt up to the transmission on his '88 Ranger with the 2.9L
> engine. He couldn't tell me what the tranny was. I told him I would ask
the
> experts, because I have no idea. I personally don't think it would, but
> someone told me one time that the 302 would bolt up to the same tranny as
> the 300 I6, So who knows what bolts to what? So what do I tell him?
>
> Matt
>
> "Accomplishing the impossible only means the boss will add it to your
> regular duties."
>
>
>
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.
>
>



------------------------------

From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Changing bed on '67
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:04:16 -0800

Not sure on the bolt size, but having a torch sure helps get the old ones out. There is a connector towards the rear of the box along the frame rail for the lights to unplug. Just follow the wires and you will see it.


Garrett Nelson
www.1966ford.com
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Southerland, Rich
 To: 'ford list'
 Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:37 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Changing bed on '67


 ----------------------------------------------------------
 Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
 touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
 http://www.motorhaven.com/
 ----------------------------------------------------------

 Hello all,

 Putting a new(er) bed on dad's 67 SB.  Need to get the swap done in an
 afternoon and figured the old bed bolts would be bad, so wanted to have new
 ones on hand.

 Does anyone know what size (and how many) we'll need?  I know I've seen them
 in catalogs, but we want to try and get it done this weekend so we'll have
 to purchase them locally.

 Also, is there a plug for the taillight harness somewhere or is it one piece
 all the way?

 Anyone in the Sacramento area want the old one (needs bed side replaced)?
 If we had the time and place to work, we'd make a matching trailer...




------------------------------

From: "mmiller14" <mmiller14 socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Where Is?
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:11:56 -0800


Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu> wrote, in part:
> there is natural attrition (where is Deacon?),

I especially miss Delanty's musings.  He's one heck of a natural-born
engineer.
I wish he would have let us "record" his web site before he pulled the
plug.
I'm just surprised that he got so far "up the canyon" that he's lost
touch with us all.
Saaaaay!  With that "cooker" he had, you don't think he's gone into
"production", do you?
And I thought Algore was goin' to "wire" the backwoods eight years
ago!
(Content) Stevie sure cooked up some nifty solutions for Ford trucks!
King pin press,
steering wheel puller, on-board air, and the ever-popular "Brighter
brights, whiter whites,"
among others.

Marv Miller - mailto:ae722 lafn.org
or:  mailto:mmiller14 socal.rr.com
"Striving to be the person
that my dog thinks I am"


------------------------------

From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:34:35 EST
Subject: Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250

In a message dated 3/5/01 11:55:51 AM Central Standard Time,
umberto97 yahoo.com writes:


> I went through
> some old posts about brakes and found that a 2-9/16"
> socket is needed to remove the retaining nut.  I took
> the axle shaft out on Sunday and measured the nut at
> 2-7/16".  Can anyone confirm this nut size for me?  My
> measurements are not always correct.  Normally I would
> go out and buy both sockets, but I do not anticipate
> needing both sizes very often!
>
>

If your not sure of the size take the nut with you.  The nut is not supposed
to be on very tight, it's a bearing retaining nut.  I have a 78 F250, I used
a chisel and tapped it on the edge to loosen it up.  I wouldn't use it to put
it back on but it does work for getting it off to make sure you get the right
size.  I just got mine and it's a 1 9/16.






Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:55:57 EST
Subject: Re: radiator


In a message dated 3/5/01 5:54:43 AM Pacific Standard Time,
kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:

<< Ford Truck Enthusiasts is a a radiator.com affiliate.  If
you order from them, use this link:
 >>
I would have, had I known.  I certainly will in the future.
Thanks
Burt Hill Kennewick, WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:09:09 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Uncomfortable....



>> I will say
>> this much, there is a former advertiser that I would make
>> strong statements >>>against<<< if asked about them.  I
>> don't take kindly to being used as an advertising forum
>> and not having invoices paid... to the tune of $400.00.  If
>> they can't pay me, would you trust them with your order?
>
>
>Sounds like "need to know" information.
>
>-- John
>jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
>1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
>http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
>Dearborn iron rules!!!!

Right now, I'll just say that they just got bought by
another company and had a slight name change.  This
was announced in one of the classic truck magazines
this month.  I'm hoping I can get the new company to
honor the old debt.

Ken Payne



------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:14:20 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: My outburst



>
>
>I forgive you. :o).  Reading the posts I could see you were working up a
>head of steam there.  I think you probably deserved a release at that point.
>I do remember reading that when Abe Lincoln was in that situation he would
>write the scathing letter he wanted to, immediately burn it and then write
>the toned down version that he felt he could send.  Just rambling.

The scary part is it was the toned down second version!

>You may want to correspond to Annie directly and see if you two can work
>something out.  I think I can remember some of her earlier posts and if so I
>know she got some very good and valuable info from it.

Will do so in the next couple of days.  I was pretty sick this weekend
recovering (and still doing so) from an earache so bad that I felt
like taking a drill to my head to relieve the pressure.  Headaches from
hell!

>To Annie,  some things you said in your post led me to believe that FTE is
>some large faceless corporate entity.  "They" is Ken and family.  And as is
>obvious from the previous posts his extended 'Family' is quite large.
>
>Ken,  things are tight for me now but soon as I work it out (in the next 4
>weeks) put me down for an FTE membership.
>
>Tom H.

Hey Tom, don't worry about it.  I don't keep score.  Do what's
best for you situation right now.

Ken Payne



------------------------------

Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 21:24:05 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE PayPal


Okay, I've been told on the list and by several personal
emails to accept donations.  I don't know if its false
pride or ego, but as I said it makes me uncomfortable.
When I feel I'm in an ethical dilemma I discuss it with
a friend who's never steered me wrong.

Well, he told me that I ought accept the offers and
pointed to ford diesel com as a site that does this without
compromising itself.  I was also told that sometimes you
insult your friends by not accepting their graciousness.
Well, you guys are my friends and I'm humbled.  As suggested,
I've set up a PayPal.com account (that service is really
COOL!) and I've got a page for it:

http://www.ford-trucks.com/Web_store/donate.html

I've got the PayPal info there, the FTE address and our
phone number.  Feel to call me on my nickel using our toll
free number on that page and we can shoot the breeze.  To
those who'd can't give or would rather not give, no sweat.

If there is anything I can do to express my thanks to
the list, let me know.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


------------------------------

From: "Bill Deacon" <billyboy surfside.net>
Subject: Classifieds
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:44:02 -0800

Ken---I tried to post a classified about my items on eBay and was rejected.
You had said they would be OK in an earlier post. When will I be able to
place this ad---Thanks! Bill



------------------------------

From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: The Economics of Ford Trucks
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:37:42 -0800

Well said Chris. FTE is a really neat thing and I guess that like all really
neat things, you have to be prepared to do a bit to keep it. I just bought
my FTE membership. A good thing for every one on the list to do. I hear
rumors that if we all buy a membership that Ken is going to give everyone a
stroked 460 for Christmas. Might be a rumor, but you never know.
Pat
72 Ranger parts truck
73 F250 4X4
75 F250 4X4
78 150 W/overloads
79 F250 4X4 Dream Truck in progress

From: "Chris Samuel" <fourmuelz email.msn.com>
Subject: Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:18:10 -0800


Hate to interrupt but I have to chime in...

I have read with interest the conversation that has erupted over the
current state of the High Tech/dotcom world, and the fortunes of FTE.
I have been here for a while now, my friend Deacon once said that he and I
should not say just how long lest we intimidate anyone, yet he has been here
longer then I; as have many others.  It is nice to see that the family cares
bout this house that Ken built. It is refreshing in this world that there is
such a place as this, where even when tempers flair, we can step back from
the fray and cool off, and in time be friends again.

Ladies and Gentz.
If you care about FTE, then you must do more then simply click on the keys
on the board before you.  You must step up and drop some coin, to assist in
keeping this place as it is.  From what I have read, you don't need to make
a charitable contribution, though I am sure that some of us have no problem
doing so, and who can tell it may come to that.  Now however, all you need
to do is simply go to the store.
I'll put money on the fact that most of you don't have the shop manual for
your truck on CD yet.  Mine's on order.  Have you picked up a copy of
"Complete book of Ford O.H.O. Parts Newsletters"? Have you got a copy of
"Off Highway Parts Applications and Specifications for Ford Vehicles" yet?
If your into Ford Engines of the 60's and 70's and even into the 80's you
owe it to your self to pick these up, they are packed full of tips and
specifications, as well as listing all the parts we can no longer get our
hands on.  Do you have a new FTE Tee Shirt yet?  You are simply under
dressed without one!  Do you have all the correct stickers and decals for
your truck?
Look I ain't a rich man, I make my living with my hands I do it 6 days a
week, that's just the way it is for me.  Sure, I'm lucky that I can make
some of my income working on exotic engines, cars, and trucks.  I've worked
hard and spent many days and nights buried in the guts of someone else's
project paying my dues.  And who knows since my day job is on the leading
edge of Si-Chips I may be underemployed tomorrow.  I ain't bragging or
whining here simply setting the ground work for saying that I can appreciate
hard work, and I know that Ken has and is putting it in, so that we all can
benefit with our various lists.  Look at FTE, this place simply reeks of
quality.  The only way that you get quality is when the craftsman puts in
the time!  I can appreciate it!  And I know that most of you do to.

I read the statistics that Ken gathered from the survey just a while back
and if you recall most people here are not patrons of FTE other then the
free things like this and the other great lists.  So here you have the crux
of the issue.  You have been talking, and you have been volunteering to
donate.
I'm going to step up and flat out challenge you to go to the store and a
purchase.
It's all set up, Ken has do nothing extra to get the funds on to the books.
This also shows that FTE as a business remains strong in an economic slip
such as we have today, making FTE even more viable to the future
advertisers, and customers.  Truly a Win-Win.  FTE has cash flow, you have
something that you can use on your truck!
I will always spend my hard earned cash with the people and organizations
that I have the best personal relationships with, I will even spend a bit
more to do so if the service is good.  Everything that I have purchased from
FTE has been just like FTE, first rate; and I have not paid any more then I
would have elsewhere, often less!
I'm also going to get a bit personal in my challenge by letting you all
know that last month I postponed several "optional" parts purchases for my
trucks and dropped the better part of a full stack of 10-spots at the FTE
store.  I did it, to give my support to Ken and FTE, after reflecting on the
information Ken shared on the survey results.  Today, I'm glad that I did,
because I know that I stepped up before Ken had to take what I feel to be
reasonable (if perhaps uncomfortable) action. And having wandered through
the store there are several items that I will be back for.  If there isn't
something in the great selection at the FTE store that you could use or
enjoy, then your driving a Chevrolet!


Long Run FTE!

Chris Samuel

I now return you to your regularly scheduled firing order discussion...






------------------------------

From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Rear brakes 1968 F-250
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:50:37 -0800


Aren't there two nuts on these like on the 44's?  I remember a bend tab
washer but also remember that that nut was very tight because it came up
solid on something but can't remember the details right now???  I know they
are tapered bearings and must be left with 0 to 0.010" axial play but don't
remember how it was done?  If what you say is true you sould be able to
tighten them with a pair of pliers and also loosen them too so I suspect
there is another element in there somewhere to control the bearing preload.
I'm reasonably sure there are two nuts.  The tab washer is sandwiched
between them and that outer nut better darn well be tight or you will have
trouble......

Since it has a tab washer to hold it the torque may be less than on the 44's
but it still needs to be tight.  The tab washer is a Safety, not a retainer
in this case.  If that outer nut happens to loosen up you will very quickly
destroy the theads on the spindle and something will come apart.

The principle is the same with these and the 44's and any other tapered
bearing spindle of any kind.  You torque the bearing to seat them only then
you back off the nut to allow zero to 10 thousandths axial free play....with
the outer nut tight.  This is a very important part of the regimen.  If you
assume you have guessed correctly and leave it after the first attempt you
will undoubtedly get them too tight.  It will always require at least two
attempts to get it right.  Once you have the proper preload with the outer
nut tight then you can tighten it further to line up the nearest tab and
bend it up into the notch or against the flat as a safety.  Remember, when
you tighten the outer nut you take up all the slack in the threads of the
inner nut so it will tighten up against the bearing increasing the preload.
This increase can be very dramatic if the nut or spindle is a little worn or
just loose from the factory.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> If your not sure of the size take the nut with you.  The nut is
> not supposed
> to be on very tight, it's a bearing retaining nut.


------------------------------

From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: FTE PayPal
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:58:50 -0800


Finish fixing the store :-)  BTW, the second order I did didn't seem to need
the secondary address stuff for confirmation?

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> If there is anything I can do to express my thanks to
> the list, let me know.
>
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


------------------------------

From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:57:14 EST
Subject: Re: My outburst

In a message dated 3/5/2001 6:15:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:


> I was pretty sick this weekend
> recovering (and still doing so) from an earache so bad that I felt
> like taking a drill to my head to relieve the pressure.

Aww, the ways mechanics find to heal themselves... How many of you consider
duct tape a suitable bandage?

Darrell & Tweety



------------------------------

From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: MEMORY
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:27:48 -0500


> From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>

I have a real problem remembering names.
I am making a concerted effort to make it a point to memorize them now out
of respect for the person I talk to :-)  I met some people last year who
were really interesting but now I can't recall some of their names :-(

My job sent me to a "Listening and Memory Development Class years ago.  As
in several training classes I've attended since, the instructors love to
show that they can remember every students name after lunch of the first
day.  This instructor told us his trick, or way of remembering, however you
want to look at it.  When a student stands up and gives his name, states his
hobbies, etc, the instructor is putting a "picture" in his mind about this
persons looks, hobbies, etc.  Along with this picture he thinks of something
really nasty or good about this person to help him with the recognition.  I
teach a couple of classes each year to the Navy and it still takes me longer
than the first morning to learn names.  When I see them later, usually much
later, I recognize them, but the gears are really turning in my head as to
what their name is.  As a side note, I met the instructor that tought this
particular course 2 years later in a resturant in DC, he didnt remember me
from Adam.  It was a good feeling to walk up to him and say " How are you
doing these day's "Bob", I really gained alot out of that memory class of
yours I was in two years ago":) Guess ya had to be there to see the look on
his face and the different names he kept calling me before I finally told
him my name.  He told me my name was "on the tip of his tounge"...:)))))

Rich


------------------------------

From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: My outburst
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:20:34 -0800

Abso-friggin'-lutely!

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

----- Original Message -----
From: <JUMPINFORD aol.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:57 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: My outburst


> Aww, the ways mechanics find to heal themselves... How many of you
consider
> duct tape a suitable bandage?
>
> Darrell & Tweety




------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:08:01 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann <herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: Re: FTE PayPal


At 09:24 PM 3/5/01 -0500, you wrote:
------------------------------------------------------
>

>Well, you guys are my friends and I'm humbled.  As suggested,
>I've set up a PayPal.com account (that service is really
>COOL!) and I've got a page for it:
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com/Web_store/donate.html
>
>
>If there is anything I can do to express my thanks to
>the list, let me know.
>
>Ken Payne
>Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
>



Ken,

Glad your going through with it.  In fact, I just opened my Paypal account
last week and received my first auction payment into it yesterday. I'm
thrilled to donate the full amount of my first Paypal payment ($26.50) to
the FTE.  It's not much, but I challenge everyone to do their part now.
The Club & the Store will be my next move.

As for something YOU can do.... Just keep up the great job of "admining"
the Nets #1 site....... FTE!!!!!!!

Take care ol'freind.

Dan Herrmann





------------------------------

From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Mechanics' bandages
Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 23:22:39 -0600



> Aww, the ways mechanics find to heal themselves... How many of you
consider
> duct tape a suitable bandage?

Only to hold the questionably clean shop rag in place! :-)

Jason Kendrick


------------------------------

From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:29:25 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages


The BEST thing I've ever found for patching wounds in an emercency is....
SUPER GLUE!  I doubt it's really the best thing as far as sanitation is
considered, but it works- and you don't have to worry about the bandage
getting wet and falling off.

I learned it from watching a hog hunter "glue up" a couple of his dogs that
got cut up by a boar.

We hauled them home in a Ford truck.

Nate

------------------------------

From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:34:33 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/5/2001 9:29:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, Natp244 cs.com
writes:


> The BEST thing I've ever found for patching wounds in an emercency is....
> SUPER GLUE!

Its actually my understanding that superglue was invented for stichless eye
operations.  Ive used superglue on a few cuts, also since I've been a plumber
off and on, abs glue will stich up a cut pretty quick.  I still swear by
Brake cleaner as a wound cleaner/antiseptic.

Darrell & Tweety



------------------------------

From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:29:22 -0600


I still swear by  Brake cleaner as a wound cleaner/antiseptic.

Ouch!! Although it might work as a wound cleaner/antiseptic, it doesn't work
as an eye rinse! Trust me on this one, if you haven't done it yet!

Jason Kendrick


------------------------------

From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:35:32 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/5/2001 10:33:44 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kendrick mddc.com writes:


> Ouch!! Although it might work as a wound cleaner/antiseptic, it doesn't work
> as an eye rinse! Trust me on this one, if you haven't done it yet!
>
> Jason Kendrick
>
>

you win, that sounds worse than almost anything I can think of!

Darrell & Tweety



------------------------------

From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:40:21 -0600


> you win, that sounds worse than almost anything I can think of!
>
> Darrell & Tweety

I'm not so sure I'd call this a "win", if you know what I mean! Learn from
my mistakes!! :-)

Jason Kendrick


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 04:35:49 -0800
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages
From: Don <duckdon mac.com>


on 3/5/01 9:34 PM, JUMPINFORD aol.com at JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote:
----------------------------------------------------------
> In a message dated 3/5/2001 9:29:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, Natp244 cs.com
> writes:
>
>
>> The BEST thing I've ever found for patching wounds in an emercency is....
>> SUPER GLUE!
>
> Its actually my understanding that superglue was invented for stichless eye
> operations.  Ive used superglue on a few cuts, also since I've been a plumber
> off and on, abs glue will stich up a cut pretty quick.  I still swear by
> Brake cleaner as a wound cleaner/antiseptic.
>
> Darrell & Tweety

Hmm, the old story I heard was that it was developed by the military for use
in the field during or around WWII.  I wonder if there is a Super Glue
history web site.

FTE Content:  Could super glue be used to seal arreas around windshields.  I
got these anoying little leaks in the corners and the cab of my 77 keeps
getting flooded.  :(
--
Don Grossman
duckdon duckdon.com

77 F-250
63 F-100 4x


------------------------------

From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:01:11 EST
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages

In a message dated 3/6/2001 4:35:52 AM Pacific Standard Time, duckdon mac.com
writes:


> Could super glue be used to seal arreas around windshields.  I
> got these anoying little leaks in the corners and the cab of my 77 keeps
> getting flooded.  :(
>

I dont think so, Id try plain old silicone.  If you have the time, pull the
window out and seal the whole window.  Use a slow drying silicone so it
doesnt setup before your ready.  This should solve your problems.  Also, if
funds allow you can have a new seal installed by a glass company.  I've never
had to go this route (Vegas doesnt ust, or get rain so..) but I imagine it
wouldnt cost to much, especially if you found your own seal.  Just make sure
to get one from somewhere other than J.C.W. as I hear their rubber products
leave something to be desired in the longevity department.  This is not
personal experience, just what I've heard, so if you go this route, use all
the info you can get.  Anyhow, bein wet aint no fun, hope your able to do
something about the problem.

Darrell & Tweety



------------------------------

From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: My outburst
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:27:11 -0800


> In a message dated 3/5/2001 6:15:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:
>
>
> > I was pretty sick this weekend
> > recovering (and still doing so) from an earache so bad that I felt
> > like taking a drill to my head to relieve the pressure.
>
> Aww, the ways mechanics find to heal themselves... How many
> of you consider
> duct tape a suitable bandage?
>
> Darrell & Tweety
>
>
If you wrap it around a shop towl to hold it over the wound then yes. ;-).
I personally have used super glue to fix small cuts and hang nails.

Tom H.

------------------------------

From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Mechanics' bandages
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:27:11 -0800


<snip>

> Hmm, the old story I heard was that it was developed by the
> military for use
> in the field during or around WWII.  I wonder if there is a Super Glue
> history web site.
>
> FTE Content:  Could super glue be used to seal arreas around
> windshields.  I
> got these anoying little leaks in the corners and the cab of
> my 77 keeps
> getting flooded.  :(
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon duckdon.com
>
> 77 F-250
> 63 F-100 4x
>
>

Actually it you might be able to.  There are actually different thicknesses
or weights of super glue.  Go to any hobby store that carries balsa model
airplanes (remote or control line).  They will carry at least three types.
Fast set: very thin will wick into any small gap and sets immediately.
Medium set: Thicker can be used to fill small gaps.
Slow set:  Thickest available might also be labeled as to the time it takes
to set.
With the slower (thicker) glues you can get a kicker (accelerant) that will
cause even the slowest setting glue to instantly set (smokes too don't
breathe the fumes-- stings)

One interesting thing about super glue is that it sets in the absence of
air.  So you can put some on your finger and it will remain fluid untill you
squeeze out any air around it by putting your other finger on it.  That's
probably how most accidents with it happen.  Get a litte on your hands and
don't notice or forget it and then touch something else and presto your hand
is suddenly stuck.

Just sitting here in Maine rambling on during the storm of the 3 month old
century. ;-)

Tom H.


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:36:53 -0600
Subject: Re: My outburst
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


>> I was pretty sick this weekend
>> recovering (and still doing so) from an earache so bad that I felt
>> like taking a drill to my head to relieve the pressure.
>
> Aww, the ways mechanics find to heal themselves... How many of you consider
> duct tape a suitable bandage?

Bandage? I don't need no steenkin' bandage. It'll quit bleedin'.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:41:54 -0600
Subject: Re: windshield leaks
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> FTE Content:  Could super glue be used to seal arreas around windshields.  I
> got these anoying little leaks in the corners and the cab of my 77 keeps
> getting flooded.  :(

Don, my 79 does the same thing. I have almost the entire gasket covered in
silicone sealer by now. I think the cure is a new gasket...someday.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:44:54 -0600
Subject: Re: windshield leaks
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> Just make sure
> to get one from somewhere other than J.C.W. as I hear their rubber products
> leave something to be desired in the longevity department.  This is not
> personal experience, just what I've heard, so if you go this route, use all
....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.