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61-79-list Digest Thu, 01 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 066

In This Issue:
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
My E-Check Retaliation
Inside Bed Spare Tire Mount?
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
The Toughest Ford Truck EVER
Re: Engine Swap Questions
Re: Sway Bars?& Kingpins; Fan clutch
Re: Sway Bars?
Re: Spark Plugs and fuel??
Re: My E-Check Retaliation
Married '76 Xfer case F250
WWW.powerheads.com
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
Kingpin Press
Re: : cab mounts
Re: 16.5 rims
Re: My E-Check Retaliation
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
Uncomfortable....
Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Re: Uncomfortable....
Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Re: My E-Check Retaliation
Re: The toughest Ford EVER
Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Re: 351C V. 351W
Re: Engine Swap Questions
Re: Sway Bars?
Re: Sway Bars?

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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:50:33 -0800



I personally would rather not have advertising in the list itself except, as
we have done in the past, to list something we have to sell.  If a list
member is trying to sell his truck then I say let him post it on the list
but commercial interests or list members who are selling stuff for a profit,
under the table so to speak should go to the "Pay to advertise" forums such
as the want adds etc...  I don't mind off topic stuff as long as it is semi
related or family stuff etc. but adds get old real fast.  Anyone try to
subscribe to a chat room lately?  The flying banners take up most of the
screen and are so distracting you can't read the fine print from the person
you are chatting with.  My wife loves it, I hate it :-(  Give me a full
screen with nothing on it but words and I'm very happy :-)

While I'm at it....I tried to narrow down my search on the want adds and the
Quotes don't work and even when I say "Dana 60"  I get taurus adds and I
would like it very much if we could avoid even looking at the "WANTED" adds
unless we are selling something.  Perhaps I didn't try enough syntax's but I
couldn't see a way to get only "Sale" and "Dana-60" in the same line for a
search like I can with Metacrawler???  Is it possible to do this?

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> >Why not take advertising for the email lists? Right now, email
> is the best
> >marketing method going.
>
> I have listed our list at several listing reseller sites for over a month
> and so far no takers.  Most companies want to advertise on announcement
> or newletter lists.  Heck, most the resellers won't even touch a
> discussion
> list.


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:29:06 -0500
From: Tony Marino <redneck raex.com>
Subject: My E-Check Retaliation


Some of you may find this amusing considering you know me-- it's my
retaliation to having trucks sitting in the driveway I'm legally not
allowed to drive because of pollution laws.   Click on the links below:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.raex.com/~redneck/plate2.jpg

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8-)   I can't wait to get 3 more custom plates for the other trucks I own
at the end of this year!   ;-)

Tony Marino
redneck raex.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ceoweb.mts.kent.edu/~mustang/trucks.html


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:31:26 -0600
From: John Strauss <jstrauss inetport.com>
Subject: Inside Bed Spare Tire Mount?


>Gang......I am looking for an Inside Spare Tire Mount for a 1973-1979
>F-series pickup.   It is the one for the 133" wheelbase, NOT the Super
Camper
>Special 140" wheelbase.  Even if you do not have one for sale, I am looking
>for pictures of where it mount originally in the bed.  I know that it
mounted
>to the top lip and the floor of the bed.  Thanks & talk to you later!!
>
Wayne, is it the same part # and/or position as the earlier trucks?  I have
a '68 F100 Ranger parts truck that has the factory in-bed mount.  It is at
the rear of the bed on the driver's side.
  _
_| ~~.  John Strauss
\, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
  \(    Texas Fight!


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 17:38:36 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to



>I personally would rather not have advertising in the list itself except, as
>we have done in the past, to list something we have to sell.  If a list
>member is trying to sell his truck then I say let him post it on the list
>but commercial interests or list members who are selling stuff for a profit,
>under the table so to speak should go to the "Pay to advertise" forums such
>as the want adds etc...  I don't mind off topic stuff as long as it is semi
>related or family stuff etc. but adds get old real fast.  Anyone try to
>subscribe to a chat room lately?  The flying banners take up most of the
>screen and are so distracting you can't read the fine print from the person
>you are chatting with.  My wife loves it, I hate it :-(  Give me a full
>screen with nothing on it but words and I'm very happy :-)

Gary,

It doesn't matter at this point if the users like advertising.  I've
seen our revenues plunge in two months.  The free lunch days of the
Internet are disappearing.  We've been shafted for thousands of dollars
in the past two months with unpaid invoices and additionally our
reseller rates have plunged.

As to selling the personal items here.... the new policy forbids it.
If you want to sell something, use the classifieds.  You have to pay
to advertise your truck in the newspaper.... shouldn't the same courtesy
be extended to someone providing a free service?

Many users have said "great idea, I support the paid classifieds 100%."
If the users really did support FTE 100%, we'd wouldn't have seen the
number of classified ads submitted per day plunge 80% when we initiated
the fee.  The sad reality is that many people say they support us but
they don't when the piper comes calling.  Thankfully, not everyone is
this way.

>While I'm at it....I tried to narrow down my search on the want adds and the
>Quotes don't work and even when I say "Dana 60"  I get taurus adds and I
>would like it very much if we could avoid even looking at the "WANTED" adds
>unless we are selling something.  Perhaps I didn't try enough syntax's but I
>couldn't see a way to get only "Sale" and "Dana-60" in the same line for a
>search like I can with Metacrawler???  Is it possible to do this?

Click "Advanced Search" in the classifieds.  It will do what you need.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts





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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 18:28:34 -0800


I was not implying to do anything for free, just separating the commercial
interests from the "Family" interests.  I agree with you, they should be
listed for pay on the classifieds and, in that case also should not be
posted to the list for free.  I've felt for a long time you were cheating
yourself in many ways.  If I want to sell my truck and have to pay....MY
GOD! a whopping $4.00 to list it I'm going to grab my beer and pretzels and
go home..........

Anyone not able or willing to pay a measely $4.00 to list on a site that is
exposed like yours it should hang their head in shame!

I'll try the advanced search next time.  I saw it there but I was having a
serious case of tunnel vision at the moment...:-)

BTW, a small token subscription fee would be very appropriate in my opinion.
You have to pay for a library card and you have to pay for a book of
information and you have to pay for educational TV (cable) shows that are
worth anything.  This list has helped many to accomplish what would have
been impossible for them without it.  Let's see a show of hands......How
many would be willing to pay......say, $25/year to have access to the lists?
You could work at McDonalds 3 days a week and still afford that, eh?

Say the word and my check will be in the mail that day :-)  Let's see, 5000
members at $25/person.....is a six figure income my friend :-) (had to get
the calculator out for that one (too tired to use my nogin) :-))

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Gary,
>
> It doesn't matter at this point if the users like advertising.  I've
> seen our revenues plunge in two months.  The free lunch days of the
> Internet are disappearing.  We've been shafted for thousands of dollars
> in the past two months with unpaid invoices and additionally our
> reseller rates have plunged.
>
> As to selling the personal items here.... the new policy forbids it.
> If you want to sell something, use the classifieds.  You have to pay
> to advertise your truck in the newspaper.... shouldn't the same courtesy
> be extended to someone providing a free service?


------------------------------

From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: The Toughest Ford Truck EVER
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:54:21 -0800

This I gotta see. Sounds flat out amazing to me.
Pat

I think I just met the reincarnation of Henry Ford.  While at my dealer
pickin up a dipstick for my 73 F-250 project, up pulls a black Super Duty
F-350 Crewcab 4x4.  Only this sucker had 2 live rear axles!  I got to talkin
with him, this truck is totally custom.  Made his own frame, to which he
hung
a dana 60 front in the convention manner, but the rears are set up just like
a big rig, with huge control arms and airbags.  Made his own power splitter,
including having custom gears made, so that both axles were live.  Both rear
axles are also sporting duals, which makes for one heck of a look.
Basically
this is (according to him) the truck dodge got the idea from to build the
T-Rexx.  This thing was flat awesome.  Tilt bed, so he can show off the
goodies, the running boards were custom made to be his fuel tanks, but they
are still filled via the door on the bed by way of a slip joint, and some
ingenious lever action.  Im going tomorrow to take some pics of it, And with
his permission, Im gonna send em to Ken to be posted.  If any of you read
Truck Trends, it was featured in the Feb issue last year.  Man I cant stop
thinkin about this truck.  The power plant is a power stroke V-8 thats been
boosted by Banks.  Said with his huge 5th wheel (I saw a pic, its got 4
axles!) hes sittin at just under 34,000 lbs, and can still hit 105 on flat
ground.  without the trailer he said it'd do about 135.   Anyone thats
interested, I'll email you these pics when I get him tomorrow, just lemme
know, I'll put ya on a list.  This is one Truck you dont wanna miss!

Darrell & Tweety (who was extremely humbled today)




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From: "Turbo Dan" <dansturbo2 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap Questions
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:08:36 -0800

I appreciate all the responses to my questions.  Here's another.   What is
the best way to do the throttle linkage?
I still have the old mechanical rod style linkage.  Can the cable type
linkage from a later model truck be fitted to an older truck?
Thanks,

Dan Duke
Salida, Ca
'70 F-250 Camper Special


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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:17:18 EST
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?& Kingpins; Fan clutch

In a message dated 3/1/01 9:41:08 AM Central Standard Time,
ekdonaldson bc.sympatico.ca writes:


>

Eric would the sway bar be for the Dana 60 and would you be interested in
getting rid of it.  Looking for one for my 250 project.  Contact off list if
so.

Glenn  NY
78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:36:50 EST
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?

In a message dated 3/1/01 10:46:14 AM Central Standard Time, gpeters3 lni.net
writes:


> I will say though that without anti-sway bars on ford trucks you better keep
> the shocks in "Excellent" condition or you will get into a real mess the
> first time you have to do a serious panic stop in the rain.......don't ask
> how I know this :-(  You have no clue what body roll is till you break a
> shock on the rear then have to do some serious steering to avoid a collision
> at 100 mph.....not a clue, trust me.....Sway bars in that case would be an
> extra ounce of protection but not a total fix for sure.
>
>

Sure sounds like experience talking here not like any of us would know about
that.  I for one came from the school of hard knocks.

Glenn  NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:41:25 EST
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs and fuel??

In a message dated 3/1/01 11:10:50 AM Central Standard Time,
xavetarx home.com writes:


> The reason I'm changing (well, there are a few, but..) the engine is
> sputtering at 2000 and above, RPM's.  I checked the fuel line, and nothing
> seems to be clogged.  I did check the spark plugs, and they are a bit
> rounded.  I'm also thinking of going to an electronic fuel pump.  (any
> suggestions?)  My first thought was I just wasn't getting enough fuel at
> WOT, but after driving it, the RPM boggingness slowly came down in RPM's to
> where it is now.
>
>

If the plugs don't help you might consider looking at the carb.  Just a
thought .

Glenn   NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:06:37 EST
Subject: Re: My E-Check Retaliation

In a message dated 3/1/01 4:31:54 PM Central Standard Time, redneck raex.com
writes:


> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.raex.com/~redneck/plate2.jpg
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://web.raex.com/~redneck/plate3.jpg
>
>
>

NICE LOOKING TRUCKS TONY

Glenn  NY
78  F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Married '76 Xfer case F250
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:04:08 -0600

Scott H. writes:  >>My 76 F-250 was originaly a Full Time married
203  T-case equiped truck.<<

Did you buy this truck new??  I've junked out at least a dozen of the
'73 thru '77's and have never seen a married tcase on anything
heavier than the F150..  Not saying it ain't so, just that I've never
seen one.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: WWW.powerheads.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 20:07:41 -0600

Bill B. writes:  >>Hmm...don't know what to say. It works fine for me.<<

Works for me also..

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:13:24 EST
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and

In a message dated 3/1/01 5:27:51 PM Central Standard Time, gpeters3 lni.net
writes:


> Let's see a show of hands......How
> many would be willing to pay......say, $25/year to have access to the lists?
>

Lets see    I would have to agree with you there


Glenn  NY

78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: "Tim Bowman" <tkbowman qwest.net>
Subject: Kingpin Press
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 19:29:30 -0800


FYI, there are plans for Steve D's kingpin press in the tech section of the
Ford-Trucks website.  It's a simple devise to do a tough job.

Tim Bowman
tkbowman qwest.net
website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
(Pacific NW Carshow information & more)


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:43:57 EST
Subject: Re: : cab mounts

In a message dated 3/1/2001 12:25:22 PM Pacific Standard Time,
patsplace aisl.bc.ca writes:


> No more frame-offs in the driveway.
>

Thats ok, thats why we have yards  :)

Darrell & Tweety



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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:47:12 EST
Subject: Re: 16.5 rims

We've been using them for approx 10 yrs or so, havent had any problems that
way, not even when my bro was experimenting with speed in that truck.  Id
rather not have known it will turn over 100mph at 11,000 lbs.  But there is a
lil part in me that thinks thats pretty impressive for the 360 that was in
it....

Darrell & Tweety




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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:49:49 EST
Subject: Re: My E-Check Retaliation

!


Darrell & Tweety




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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 22:52:55 EST
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and

In a message dated 3/1/2001 3:27:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
gpeters3 lni.net writes:


> Say the word and my check will be in the mail that day :-)  Let's see, 5000
> members at $25/person.....is a six figure income my friend :-) (had to get
> the calculator out for that one (too tired to use my nogin) :-))
>
>

Id be willing to do it!  FTE has saved me and Im sure many others WELL over
25 bucks in the last year.  Id be happy to see that go to you folks Ken.

Darrell & Tweety



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 21:00:24 -0700
From: "William (Tony) Whited" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to


same here.

JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote:> Say the word and my check will be in the mail that day
:-)  Let's see, 5000

> > members at $25/person.....is a six figure income my friend :-) (had to get
> > the calculator out for that one (too tired to use my nogin) :-))
> >
> >
>
> Id be willing to do it!  FTE has saved me and Im sure many others WELL over
> 25 bucks in the last year.  Id be happy to see that go to you folks Ken.
>
> Darrell & Tweety

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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From: "Christopher Worley" <cworley76 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds.....and
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 04:07:32


$25 a year for this type of resource is a bargin, count me in..

Chris
67 F100


>From: Aeroape82 aol.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to
>classifieds.....and li...
>Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 21:13:24 EST
>
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>In a message dated 3/1/01 5:27:51 PM Central Standard Time,
>gpeters3 lni.net
>writes:
>
>
> > Let's see a show of hands......How
> > many would be willing to pay......say, $25/year to have access to the
>lists?
> >
>
>Lets see    I would have to agree with you there
>
>
>Glenn  NY
>
>78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 20:20:39 -0800
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to
From: Don <duckdon mac.com>



> $25 a year for this type of resource is a bargin, count me in..
>

Ken, do you take PayPal?

--
Don Grossman
duckdon duckdon.com

77 F-250
63 F-100 4x


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 23:53:56 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Uncomfortable....


Okay... a few people have started mentioning paying for
the lists.  I'm very uncomfortable with this.  FTE's
history is based on the ***free*** lists.  As far back
as April, 1997 I said:

"I've told myself from the start the list would always
remain free."

The boards and the lists are the heart of FTE.  Charging
for them is out of the question though I'm flattered that
the offers were made.

FTE is about to take a major step that will insure it's
survival.   It will not affect anything FTE currently
does.  Hint: Mustang, Galaxy, Pinto, Shelby, Falcon,
Fairlane, Torino, LTD, Thunderbird, Maverick, Bobcat,
EXP, Ranchero, Cougar, Comet, Meteor, Montego, Capri,
Edsel and Lincoln Mark.  I'll leave everyone guessing
until the official announcement.

Later,
Ken




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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:02:05 -0500


I have a 78  with the same drivetrain that is a factory air truck (but its
not hooked up) & mine has the clutch fan setup on it.
-----Original Message-----
From: kerry corey <fansong9 yahoo.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Thursday, March 01, 2001 2:10 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] fan clutch 78 f-150


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>
>I have a 1978 F-150 2wd 351m w/C-6 and NO AC. It looks
>like it would be fairly easy to add a silicone
>temperature controlled fan clutch and perhaps new fan
>blades, eliminating what appears to be the spacer in
>the process. This should (in theory) give better
>cooling at low speed, better gas mileage (ha!) and
>less noise at highway speed. I think some of the A/C
>vehicles came w/fan clutch. Anyone already gone
>through the steps as to what bolts are needed, etc? I
>can't imagine MUCH improvement in mpg but even .5 on
>the road would help. Thanks.
>
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:05:06 EST
Subject: Re: Uncomfortable....

In a message dated 3/1/2001 8:54:57 PM Pacific Standard Time,
kpayne ford-trucks.com writes:


> Okay... a few people have started mentioning paying for
> the lists.  I'm very uncomfortable with this.  FTE's
> history is based on the ***free*** lists.  As far back
> as April, 1997 I said:
>
> "I've told myself from the start the list would always
> remain free."
>
>

Well This is very much appreciated, and I still think that you should
consider it if worse comes to worst, just so we dont loose FTE altogether.
You are the man in charge, so lead us, oh great one, and we shall stick
together and conquer the infadels!! (by this I mean the General and his
"mopar'dner)

Darrell & Tweety



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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:07:44 EST
Subject: Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins

I snaged a copy of that pic when I saw it (cant pass a good tip ;-)). It's
just about as you described it, overall dimensions are 18" high and 6" wide.
Says top is 5/8", no thinkness given for sides or bottom. Top has a 1 1/8"
hole for kingpin.

Anyone who wants it just let me know..........

George M in Fl.

In a message dated 03/01/01 11:08:09 AM Eastern Standard Time,
duckdon mac.com writes:


> It was Steve D. who made up the portable kingpin press.  It used a small
> bottle jack to press the pins out.  Really cool setup.  There used to be
> pics of it on his site ( which is gone now :(  )  If I remember right it was
> 2 pieces of 1/2" plate on each end and 6" C channel.  One end had a hole for
> the king pin to come through and the other end held the jack in place.
>
>





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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: My E-Check Retaliation
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:13:49 -0500


those are pretty nice trucks you have there. Aren't they old enough to be
exempt from emissions testing.
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Date: Thursday, March 01, 2001 5:32 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] My E-Check Retaliation


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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 00:16:23 EST
Subject: Re: The toughest Ford EVER

I'd love to see somthing like that. Glad to see someone had the time and cash
to carry it out to such a richious extent!

George M in Fl.

In a message dated 02/27/01 9:59:59 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:


> I think I just met the reincarnation of Henry Ford.  While at my dealer
> pickin up a dipstick for my 73 F-250 project, up pulls a black Super Duty
> F-350 Crewcab 4x4.  Only this sucker had 2 live rear axles!  I got to
> talkin
> with him, this truck is totally custom.  Made his own frame, to which he
> hung
> a dana 60 front in the convention manner, but the rears are set up just
> like
> a big rig, with huge control arms and airbags.  Made his own power
> splitter,
> including having custom gears made, so that both axles were live.  Both
> rear
> axles are also sporting duals, which makes for one heck of a look.
> Basically
> this is (according to him) the truck dodge got the idea from to build the
> T-Rexx.  This thing was flat awesome.  Tilt bed, so he can show off the
> goodies, the running boards were custom made to be his fuel tanks, but they
> are still filled via the door on the bed by way of a slip joint, and some
> ingenious lever action.  Im going tomorrow to take some pics of it, And
> with
> his permission, Im gonna send em to Ken to be posted.  If any of you read
> Truck Trends, it was featured in the Feb issue last year.  Man I cant stop
> thinkin about this truck.  The power plant is a power stroke V-8 thats been
> boosted by Banks.  Said with his huge 5th wheel (I saw a pic, its got 4
> axles!) hes sittin at just under 34,000 lbs, and can still hit 105 on flat
> ground.  without the trailer he said it'd do about 135.   Anyone thats
> interested, I'll email you these pics when I get him tomorrow, just lemme
> know, I'll put ya on a list.  This is one Truck you dont wanna miss!
>
> Darrell & Tweety (who was extremely humbled today)
>





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From: "Travis Johnson" <flatheadv8 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 22:46:47 -0700

>If you are looking for better performance and longer water pump life you
>should look at moving to an electric fan.  They are all over the place in
>wrecking yards.  For about $40-50 depending on how much the wrecking yard
>charges for the fan you can be good to go.  I have done it on 2 of my
trucks
>so far and love it.   What kind of vehicles did you get your fans from?

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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 05:40:48 -0800
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: 351C V. 351W


Back in the early 80's ford sold "true" Cleveland heads .
They were Boss 302 with instructions on modifying the water passages for
the 351C block.

dP


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> just had a coolant passage for the intake.  you can put 351c heads on a 302,
> but you have to drill the passage, as mentioned before the yates 351w heads
> are the same design as the cleveland, so i would guess to use them on a
> cleveland you just weld up or plug the passages.
>
> but i am currently looking for a set of 351 aussie heads.
>
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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Engine Swap Questions
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 07:33:26 -0800


Don't see why not but why do you want to do that?  I really, really like the
rod style much better because of less resistance to your throttle foot, less
tiring and virtually lasts forever.  Cables are the simplest things to hook
up to anything and most of the time a simple bracket you can make yourself
will suffice if you can't find the right one or a simple modification of the
original bracket will most of the time do the job.  Often it just means
drilling a new hole somewhere to mount it.

You will most likely want to get the pedal and bracket with the cable to
make it easy to install.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I appreciate all the responses to my questions.  Here's another.   What is
> the best way to do the throttle linkage?
> I still have the old mechanical rod style linkage.  Can the cable type
> linkage from a later model truck be fitted to an older truck?
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Duke


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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 08:34:21 -0500
From: William King <kingw bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?


Rusty,
OH OH OH!  I know the answer to this one!
Sorry if this is a bit late, I'm in digest mode.
I added a JC Whitney front sway bar (about 7/8" or 1" diameter) to my 1968
F100 2wd about 5 years ago.  One of the best modifications I made.

At the time I was living in Cincinnati.  There was a sweet, sweeping on-ramp to
the highway I took to work. Each morning I would whip around the ramp as fast
as I dared (provided nobody was in my way, of course).  Without the swaybar
I could only manage 45 mph thru the curve.  The ol' truck wallowed and swayed
quite a bit. It was pretty unnerving.  I spent one night bolting the sway
bar on.
After I could whip through that curve at 60 mph.  Sway bars make ya smile.

Some other people were talking about adding rear sway bars.  I just don't see
that as a good idea, unless you're towing a lot, or have a camper
shell.  My truck
has a typical truck-tendency to oversteer (i.e., rear end swings out) when
pushed
to the limit.  Adding a rear sway bar, or stiffening the rear suspension
will only
aggravate that tendency.  Me?  I only carry a load about 10% of the time,
so I'm
not adding a rear sway bar.

Ohio Bill
1968 F100 360 2v 4 speed
1968 Torino GT 429 4v 5 speed
*******************************
>I'm wondering if any of you list members have tried sway bars on your 70's
>model trucks? I have a '77 2wd f150 and I want to get rid of the body roll I
>get in the turns. I'm thinking either stiffer coil springs or sway bars or
>both.
>
>Any suggestions or previous experience would be greatly appreciated.
>
>thanks
>rusty
>kcmo
>77 f150 400


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 09:27:33 -0800


I've done a little research on racing setups but don't recall all the
details.  I do know that changing the spring rate on the right front and
left rear or the other pair will change the steering on an oval track.  It
only follows that sway bars or heavier spring will have some kind of similar
effect on the highway.  Now I'm sitting here with a completely uncooperative
brain and can't think of the term.........Ah, "Wedge" they call it.  I
believe it got that name because they used to actually use wedges to make
the changes.  Now they have screw mechanism to do it.

My bronco has a serious tendancy to over steer too, especially in loose
stuff and it is actually fun off road but on the road it's a little scary to
tell the truth.  I wonder what I might expect if I removed the rear
anti-sway bar?  I actually prefer an over steering vehicle but really I like
it close to neutral but leaning toward over steer.  The experts say that a
slight understeer is actually the safest setup for the average, untrained
driver because in a short time you learn how far you can go and understeer
is scary on ice but just a little unnerving on pavement, you usually have
time to recover if you over cook a turn with understeer but with oversteer
you usually are out of control by the time you realize there is a problem
and only luck or real good traction or a big engine and some skill will save
you then.  Few people ever think about applying power in a skid on pavement
when the back end swings out but often that is what you need to correct it.
With front wheel drive cars application of power is almost always necessary
to save a skid on slippery surfaces and will almost always pull you out of a
pushing situation on pavement (if there is any traction that is) which is
one of the reasons that 4wd works so well on slippery surfaces.  The front ....


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