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61-79-list Digest Thu, 01 Mar 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 065

In This Issue:
fan clutch 78 f-150
Re: www.powerheads.com
Inside Bed Spare Tire Mount?
Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Tool Box
Sway Bars?& Kingpins; Fan clutch
Tool Box
Re: Sway Bars?
Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
16.5 rims
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
Re: Sway Bars?
Spark Plugs and fuel??
Re: 16.5 rims
: cab mounts
Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to
Re: Sway Bars
FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
My Lucky Day
Re: : cab mounts, driveway ownership....
Re: 16.5 rims
Re: FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
Re: Spark Plugs and fuel??
Re: Tool Box
Re: Tool Box
Re: Sway Bars

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject:  fan clutch 78 f-150
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 04:20:12 -0500


i did this add on to a 79 f150 all i had to do was get the fan and the
clutch from a wrecking yard and the special bolts to attach them BUT the
spacer was still needed another way would be to find one of the flex fans
ford used in the 70s and install it they are more dependable i think i know
the 351s and the 400s used them about 74 or so and they should fit yours
still
gordon



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:11:12 EST
Subject: Re: www.powerheads.com

In a message dated 2/28/01 2:49:54 PM Central Standard Time,
bbeyer pacifier.com writes:


>

Just tried it out of curiosity, worked fine for me came right up

Glenn  NY
78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 06:55:11 EST
Subject: Inside Bed Spare Tire Mount?


Gang......I am looking for an Inside Spare Tire Mount for a 1973-1979
F-series pickup.   It is the one for the 133" wheelbase, NOT the Super Camper
Special 140" wheelbase.  Even if you do not have one for sale, I am looking
for pictures of where it mount originally in the bed.  I know that it mounted
to the top lip and the floor of the bed.  Thanks & talk to you later!!
Wayne Grabley (Clifton, NJ)

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:30:51 -0600
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> I have a 1978 F-150 2wd 351m w/C-6 and NO AC. It looks
> like it would be fairly easy to add a silicone
> temperature controlled fan clutch and perhaps new fan
> blades, eliminating what appears to be the spacer in
> the process. This should (in theory) give better
> cooling at low speed, better gas mileage (ha!) and
> less noise at highway speed. I think some of the A/C
> vehicles came w/fan clutch. Anyone already gone
> through the steps as to what bolts are needed, etc? I
> can't imagine MUCH improvement in mpg but even .5 on
> the road would help. Thanks.

Kerry,

If I understand your question, you have a flex fan or other fixed fan now
and want to go to a clutch type, right? Just go to your local parts house
and buy the clutch. If they don't show one for a 78, get one for a 79. They
should also be able to fix you up with the studs, lock washers, and nuts you
need to bolt to the water pump. You will likely need to find the fan at a
wrecking yard. I went the other way with my truck. When the air conditioner
compressor threw its clutch into the fan, I replaced the stock fan clutch
and fan with a stainless steel flex fan and aluminum spacer. I like flex
fans in general, but not the one I bought in particular. I have also seen
351 engines in cars with air in the wrecking yard. I could not tell any
difference in any performance factor by changing fans. My reasoning was to
not have to buy the $85 clutch ever again.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:31:16 -0600
Subject: Sway Bars?
From: Rusty Nail <rnail mmgworldwide.com>


I'm wondering if any of you list members have tried sway bars on your 70's
model trucks? I have a '77 2wd f150 and I want to get rid of the body roll I
get in the turns. I'm thinking either stiffer coil springs or sway bars or
both.

Any suggestions or previous experience would be greatly appreciated.

thanks
rusty
kcmo
77 f150 400

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From: "Ken Schneider" <fordemail sunsetcoast.com>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:47:21 -0500


Rusty & List,

I'm going through the same issue with my 68 2wd.  I have already replaced
the worn out shocks with Rancho RS-5000's, which did help significantly, but
not enough.  My next step is to install the new Variable Rate Coil Springs,
which I had powder coated.  These I plan to install when the weather warms
up, and the truck comes out of storage.  I'm also going to replace the
Radius Arm Bushings with Energy Suspension Bushings while I'm in there.  I
haven't decided if I'm going to replace the Axle Pivot Bushings yet.  I also
plan on doing Kingpins as well.  On a final note, didn't someone come up
with a homemade press for the Kingpins(I know Snap-On has one...)?  Was
there ever a decision on nylon or brass Kingpin Bushings?

Hopefully after I replace all of that stuff, the body roll will be better...
Any opinions out there?

Ken Schneider
68 F100 Ranger 360/C6/3.25NL
88 Crown Victoria 5.0/Mustang AOD



>I'm wondering if any of you list members have tried sway bars on your 70's
>model trucks? I have a '77 2wd f150 and I want to get rid of the body roll
I
>get in the turns. I'm thinking either stiffer coil springs or sway bars or
>both.


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:01:49 -0800


The last two king pin sets I removed I used my air hammer/chisel to push
them out.  They came right out amazingly enough.  Since you will replace the
bushings anyway the damage is minimal this way.  First set I did I used heat
to get them out.....not a cool move.  There is a rather pricey "C" clamp set
that is supposed to take them out but the forces I've encountered on these
would stress a "C" clamp to the limits I would think?  The ones I've seen
are very heavy but still just "C" clamps.  The Iffyness of the operation and
the price have kept me from purchasing one so far.

Granted, the last two I did were on rather newer but high mileage trucks so
were not as rusted in as the first ones I did which I'm sure had something
to do with the ease of removal :-)

If you are replacing the I beam bushings you can take the whole I beam off
and work on it a lot easier but that's a lot of work on a rusty truck just
to get that part off sometimes.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> yet.  I also
> plan on doing Kingpins as well.  On a final note, didn't someone come up
> with a homemade press for the Kingpins(I know Snap-On has one...)?  Was
> there ever a decision on nylon or brass Kingpin Bushings?


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:08:28 -0800


The only advantage I can think of off hand is the engine noise.  The fan
contributes quite a bit to the noise at highway speeds or when going through
the gears.  Theoretically it should reduce the load on the engine at cruise
too and improve mileage but the larger the engine is the less impact this
has on the over all performance I would think.  Also, at speed the air
pressure from the forward movement "Autorotates" the fan taking some of the
load off the engine.

There are 2 varieties of these fans too.  There is a police version which is
designed for sustained high rpm use but costs nearly twice as much.  I've
seen these clutches last well over 100k miles so what is the real issue
John?:-))

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> wrecking yard. I went the other way with my truck. When the air
> conditioner
> compressor threw its clutch into the fan, I replaced the stock fan clutch
> and fan with a stainless steel flex fan and aluminum spacer. I like flex
> fans in general, but not the one I bought in particular. I have also seen
> 351 engines in cars with air in the wrecking yard. I could not tell any
> difference in any performance factor by changing fans. My reasoning was to
> not have to buy the $85 clutch ever again.
>
> -- John


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:35:38 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Tool Box



On my 66 F100, there is what appears to be a small toolbox built
into the side of the bed, between the passenger door and wheelwell. The door
is flush with the body and open up to a small rectangular compartment. I
have never seen this before and either has anyone else I have talked to.
Everyone asks me if it is stock. Does anyone know if this is a stock option
or an add-on?

Thanks,
Virgil

> Please remove this footer when replying.

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:40:00 -0800
From: Eric <ekdonaldson bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Sway Bars?& Kingpins; Fan clutch


In preparation for a disc brake swap on my '66, I salvaged the entire front
suspension from a '78 F250, which included a sway bar. It attaches to the
radius arms and the frame. I did not discover if it fits a '66 as I do not
wish to change the radius arms so I'll use the optional (for '66) air bags
instead of the sway bar. The donor truck had a rear axle sway bar as well,
but it is unlikely that it is a bolt-on. I asked a mechanic to re&re the
pins because he has the necessary reamer. I don't trust the emery cloth
around the finger method.

I'm using a clutch-type fan from a 351M circa 1980. The noise level,
especially at cruise but at idle as well, is dramatically reduced.

Eric D


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:45:11 -0800
From: Eric <ekdonaldson bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Tool Box


The tool box is pretty common on long wheelbase trucks, especially  Camper
Specials, but you won't see the smaller, swb version very often. What is
really scarce, and maybe unavailable, is the rubber seal that goes around
the opening.

Eric D


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 07:59:11 -0800
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
From: Don <duckdon mac.com>


on 2/28/01 11:09 PM, kerry corey at fansong9 yahoo.com wrote:

> I have a 1978 F-150 2wd 351m w/C-6 and NO AC. It looks
> like it would be fairly easy to add a silicone
> temperature controlled fan clutch and perhaps new fan
> blades, eliminating what appears to be the spacer in
> the process. This should (in theory) give better
> cooling at low speed, better gas mileage (ha!) and
> less noise at highway speed. I think some of the A/C
> vehicles came w/fan clutch. Anyone already gone
> through the steps as to what bolts are needed, etc? I
> can't imagine MUCH improvement in mpg but even .5 on
> the road would help. Thanks.


If you are looking for better performance and longer water pump life you
should look at moving to an electric fan.  They are all over the place in
wrecking yards.  For about $40-50 depending on how much the wrecking yard
charges for the fan you can be good to go.  I have done it on 2 of my trucks
so far and love it.  Some of the benefits are less engine drag (what you
were looking for) less noise at idle and on the freeway, frees up a few
ponies, should also result in longer pump life since there is less weight on
the front.  My truck also seems to warm up faster in the winter with no cold
air blowing around the engine compartment.

It's not really hard to do at all.


--
Don Grossman
duckdon duckdon.com

77 F-250
63 F-100 4x


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:54:43 -0600
Subject: Re: fan clutch 78 f-150
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> There are 2 varieties of these fans too.  There is a police version which is
> designed for sustained high rpm use but costs nearly twice as much.  I've
> seen these clutches last well over 100k miles so what is the real issue
> John?:-))

I don't know what the real issue is. I don't like the fan I have because it
has a maximum rpm of 4500. I'll never wind up to that with my stock 351M,
but it bothers me. The other thing I don't like is that I don't think it
pulls enough air at idle. At cruise speed you don't need a fan at all and a
clutch type fan with a worn out clutch can actually spin backward creating
turbulence and decreasing cooling ability.

Amazingly enough, most of the ads I have read for flex fans tout quieter
operation, better gas mileage, increased horse power, fewer cavities...well
maybe not fewer cavities.

Like I said before, I didn't want to buy an $85 fan clutch and the shiny
blades are a lot prettier IMHO. My stock fan blades were destroyed by the
flinging air conditioner compressor clutch (sheared the bolt head), too, so
I needed to replace the whole shooting match. What I really want is a fan
off of a 73 Cadillac 472. I haven't run across one yet and don't even know
if it will fit.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 10:00:43 -0600
Subject: Re: Fan clutch
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> I'm using a clutch-type fan from a 351M circa 1980. The noise level,
> especially at cruise but at idle as well, is dramatically reduced.

BTW, my exhaust, the air conditioner, the tires, the radio, and wind noise
are loud enough to cover any fan noise. Interestingly enough, my Towncar has
a clutch type fan while the Cadillac I mention in another post has a flex
fan. Both are very quiet operators. The only noisy flex fans I have run
across are the fiberglass ones. I wouldn't put one of those on my lawnmower
if I hated the lawnmower.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


------------------------------

From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:01:48 -0800



> I'm wondering if any of you list members have tried sway bars
> on your 70's
> model trucks? I have a '77 2wd f150 and I want to get rid of
> the body roll I
> get in the turns. I'm thinking either stiffer coil springs or
> sway bars or
> both.
>
> Any suggestions or previous experience would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> rusty
> kcmo
> 77 f150 400

The F-250s and larger had factory front swaybars and some had rear bars.  I
pirated a set from a F-250 front and rear but haven't installed them yet.
There is a bracket that goes on each of the front twin I beams under the
coil spring.  The front bar bolts to the front of the frame just behind the
bumper.

Tom H.

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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:01:49 -0800


<snip>
>  On a final note, didn't
> someone come up
> with a homemade press for the Kingpins(I know Snap-On has
> one...)?  Was
> there ever a decision on nylon or brass Kingpin Bushings?
>
> Hopefully after I replace all of that stuff, the body roll
> will be better...
> Any opinions out there?
>
> Ken Schneider
> 68 F100 Ranger 360/C6/3.25NL
> 88 Crown Victoria 5.0/Mustang AOD
>
>

I think it was Steve Stanley came up with a larg 'C' shaped bracket that
would fit around the front axle.  It had a hole on top for the king pin to
fit through and was large enough for a hydraulic bottle jack to fit under
the axle.  Put the jack on the bottom of the king pin and pump it out of the
axle.

Tom H.

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 08:07:11 -0800
Subject: Re: Sway Bars? & Kingpins
From: Don <duckdon mac.com>


on 3/1/01 6:47 AM, Ken Schneider at fordemail sunsetcoast.com wrote:

> Rusty & List,
> I also
> plan on doing Kingpins as well.  On a final note, didn't someone come up
> with a homemade press for the Kingpins(I know Snap-On has one...)?
> Ken Schneider
> 68 F100 Ranger 360/C6/3.25NL
> 88 Crown Victoria 5.0/Mustang AOD


It was Steve D. who made up the portable kingpin press.  It used a small
bottle jack to press the pins out.  Really cool setup.  There used to be
pics of it on his site ( which is gone now :(  )  If I remember right it was
2 pieces of 1/2" plate on each end and 6" C channel.  One end had a hole for
the king pin to come through and the other end held the jack in place.

Laters
--
Don Grossman
duckdon duckdon.com

77 F-250
63 F-100 4x


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:19:10 -0700
From: "William Whited (Tony)" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: 16.5 rims


One my 74 Super Camper Special (SCS) I'm having to replace my tires, the
problem has arose about the 16.5 rims.  I know this issue has been
talked about before, I would like to know the best solutions.  I do not
want to lose my width in the rear they are 33X12.50R16.5 and the fronts
are 9.50R16.5.  I also would like load range E's, I can find them for
the front the rears are where I'm running into the problem.  I can find
D's all day long, but E's are another story.  Right now I have a rear
axle that can handle 6800 but tires that can only handle 5830.  TIA

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:25:56 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds


Ken,

Why not take advertising for the email lists? Right now, email is the best
marketing method going. It can be pretty unobtrusive and most list members
would understand, I think. You have to make a living doing this. Another
option is to start an affiliate program. If you are interested in persuing
this, contact me offlist. I do this type of thing for a living, but my
advice is free to you because I appreciate the servive you provide.

Virgil

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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars?
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 11:47:05 -0800


Anything you do to reduce body roll will also stiffen the suspension/ride
quality.  Sway bars reduce the responsiveness of each side in much the same
way as a stiffer spring but they also control the roll better than just
stiffer springs so you need to assess your needs first.  Do you just cruise
with it or do you actually haul loads and are the loads mostly heavy or
light etc...Camper equipped trucks need sway bars, front and rear for sure
and if you haul top heavy loads you will appreciate them as well.  It's all
relative, the less body roll you have the stiffer it will ride unloaded.

All cars have sway bars front and back as do most factory SUV's and there is
a good reason for it :-)  They work :-)  I haven't seen too many ford 2wd
trucks with them though because the suspension is stiff enough to control
the body roll to some extent.  The earlier F-100's had rather soft
suspension so could be improved with an anti-sway bar I would think.  My 78
does pretty well without one but it's very stiff.

I will say though that without anti-sway bars on ford trucks you better keep
the shocks in "Excellent" condition or you will get into a real mess the
first time you have to do a serious panic stop in the rain.......don't ask
how I know this :-(  You have no clue what body roll is till you break a
shock on the rear then have to do some serious steering to avoid a collision
at 100 mph.....not a clue, trust me.....Sway bars in that case would be an
extra ounce of protection but not a total fix for sure.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--


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> Subject: [61-79-list] Sway Bars?
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> I'm wondering if any of you list members have tried sway bars on your 70's
> model trucks? I have a '77 2wd f150 and I want to get rid of the
> body roll I
> get in the turns. I'm thinking either stiffer coil springs or sway bars or
> both.
>
> Any suggestions or previous experience would be greatly appreciated.
>
> thanks
> rusty
> kcmo
> 77 f150 400
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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: Spark Plugs and fuel??
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 12:06:02 -0500


Anyone have any ideas on what might be the best spark plug to use in a 460?
Also, what size/numbers should I be looking for.  It's a 73 engine.
The reason I'm changing (well, there are a few, but..) the engine is
sputtering at 2000 and above, RPM's.  I checked the fuel line, and nothing
seems to be clogged.  I did check the spark plugs, and they are a bit
rounded.  I'm also thinking of going to an electronic fuel pump.  (any
suggestions?)  My first thought was I just wasn't getting enough fuel at
WOT, but after driving it, the RPM boggingness slowly came down in RPM's to
where it is now.

-bob-
79 Bronco 460 44's T18
79 Bronco 400 40's C6

p.s.  (where are those pictures of the "meanest ford"? ;-)



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:33:04 -0600
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs and fuel??
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


>
> Anyone have any ideas on what might be the best spark plug to use in a 460?
> Also, what size/numbers should I be looking for.  It's a 73 engine.
> The reason I'm changing (well, there are a few, but..) the engine is
> sputtering at 2000 and above, RPM's.  I checked the fuel line, and nothing
> seems to be clogged.  I did check the spark plugs, and they are a bit
> rounded.  I'm also thinking of going to an electronic fuel pump.  (any
> suggestions?)  My first thought was I just wasn't getting enough fuel at
> WOT, but after driving it, the RPM boggingness slowly came down in RPM's to
> where it is now.

I'd put the stock numbered plugs in it, possibly replace the spark plug
wires and then check for a clogged fuel filter or split rubber fuel line,
then work on the carb. And that has nothing to do with being a 460 BTW. I
would suggest that line for any engine.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:49:46 EST
Subject: Re: 16.5 rims

Goodyear hi-miler bias ply, size 12x16.5 are basically a 33x12 tire.  I use
them on my F-350 with the water tank on the back.  They are actually a
forklift tire, but can be used on your truck.  Only prob with these tires are
they are spendy, and are very tempermental regarding pressure.  If you dont
keep them as hard as possible, they will come aparty before the tire is
halfway worn down.  And Goodyears warrenty sucks.  You buy another new tire,
and wait for a good year rep to decide how worn your old one is.  That inst
bad, but the company I deal with has a bit of a scam going where if you dont
keep pestering them, they keep your refund.  Took me 4 months to get the last
chack from them, kept tellin me the rep hadnt showed yet.  Oh well.  Anyhow,
those are the tires you need, good luck.

Darrell & Tweety



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From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: : cab mounts
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 10:08:33 -0800

A moment of silence for the fallen brave.
Pat
>
> BTW, the reason I am prohibited from such behavior is that SWMBO has
> spoken. No more frame-offs in the driveway.
>
> Doss
> '67 F250 Camper Special
>




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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:00:41 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: [small-list] FTE ADMIN: Change to


At 11:25 AM 3/1/01, you wrote:
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
>touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
>http://www.motorhaven.com/
>----------------------------------------------------------
>
>Ken,
>
>Why not take advertising for the email lists? Right now, email is the best
>marketing method going.

I have listed our list at several listing reseller sites for over a month
and so far no takers.  Most companies want to advertise on announcement
or newletter lists.  Heck, most the resellers won't even touch a discussion
list.

Another problem is getting advertisers.  We had one of them go belly
up (SoCal) and another is past due by 45 days (they aren't advertising
anymore).

>It can be pretty unobtrusive and most list members
>would understand, I think. You have to make a living doing this. Another
>option is to start an affiliate program.
>If you are interested in persuing
>this, contact me offlist. I do this type of thing for a living, but my
>advice is free to you because I appreciate the servive you provide.
>
>Virgil

Will do.

Ken



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 14:21:36 -0700
From: "William Whited (Tony)" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars


I have a chance to get a set of rear and front sway bars for my 77 F150, is
there anything I should look for?  I'm sure of the year yet, but I will be
getting the brackets and all.  TIA
--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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From: "Bill Deacon" <billyboy surfside.net>
Subject: FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:31:50 -0800

<snip>The classified ads will now be $4.00 for up to 45 days plus
an additional $1.00 for each additional category you place it
in.  After placing your ad you will be given a link to a page
on our secure server to pay for the ad.<snip>

Since you now must charge for classifieds, how about letting us advertise
the items that we have listed on eBay.





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From: "Bill Deacon" <billyboy surfside.net>
Subject: My Lucky Day
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 13:53:14 -0800

Found these Custom Cab door handle inserts at Ecology Auto Wrecking in Santa
Fe Springs, Ca. today. I've been looking for a long time and got 'em for 2
bucks a piece with the handles! www.twittycommitty.com/9inserts.jpg



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: : cab mounts, driveway ownership....
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:51:46 -0800


Just use your "Half" of the drive way :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> A moment of silence for the fallen brave.
> Pat
> >
> > BTW, the reason I am prohibited from such behavior is that SWMBO has
> > spoken. No more frame-offs in the driveway.
> >
> > Doss
> > '67 F250 Camper Special


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 16.5 rims
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 16:54:01 -0800


Hi-Lo tires are not speed rated are they?  At speed on the highway they
could come apart, catastrophically.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Goodyear hi-miler bias ply, size 12x16.5 are basically a 33x12
> tire.  I use
> them on my F-350 with the water tank on the back.  They are actually a
> forklift tire, but can be used on your truck.


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:56:33 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: FTE ADMIN: Change to classifieds


At 04:31 PM 3/1/01, you wrote:
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
>touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
>http://www.motorhaven.com/
>----------------------------------------------------------
><snip>The classified ads will now be $4.00 for up to 45 days plus
>an additional $1.00 for each additional category you place it
>in.  After placing your ad you will be given a link to a page
>on our secure server to pay for the ad.<snip>
>
>Since you now must charge for classifieds, how about letting us advertise
>the items that we have listed on eBay.

No problem. :-)  Hopefully this new policy will be temporary.
If the ad market turns around or we can rapidly make other
revenue streams then the classifieds will be free again.

Ken



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Spark Plugs and fuel??
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 17:02:26 -0800


I agree with John.  Use the stock plugs.  If the plugs are old then they may
be gapped wrong and if it has been run too rich they could be fouled down in
the porcelain area so blasting may help.  If the electrodes are rounded and
they are relatively new then you may have some detonation going on which is
unusual in a stock 460.  If you are using Duraspark there could be a short
in the module causing multiple firings or changing the timing etc. or one of
the coil wires could be about ready to part due to corrosion (look for green
spots on the insulation) or the coil cap may be damaged and not getting a
good contact.  Then theres.....and .....and.....

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Anyone have any ideas on what might be the best spark plug to use
> in a 460?
> Also, what size/numbers should I be looking for.  It's a 73 engine.
> The reason I'm changing (well, there are a few, but..) the engine is
> sputtering at 2000 and above, RPM's.  I checked the fuel line, and nothing
> seems to be clogged.  I did check the spark plugs, and they are a bit
> rounded.  I'm also thinking of going to an electronic fuel pump.  (any
> suggestions?)  My first thought was I just wasn't getting enough fuel at
> WOT, but after driving it, the RPM boggingness slowly came down
> in RPM's to
> where it is now.
>
>  -bob-


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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 16:58:29 -0800
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: Tool Box


I have a 77 or 78 bed in the yard with the toolbox. It has the "Ranger XLT"
emblems, but I'm not sure if the truck was a Camper Special. I think the toolbox
was common on the Camper Specials.

Greg

"Huston, Virgil H." wrote:

>
>
>         On my 66 F100, there is what appears to be a small toolbox built
> into the side of the bed, between the passenger door and wheelwell. The door
> is flush with the body and open up to a small rectangular compartment. I
> have never seen this before and either has anyone else I have talked to.
> Everyone asks me if it is stock. Does anyone know if this is a stock option
> or an add-on?
>
>         Thanks,
>         Virgil
>


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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Tool Box
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:04:54 -0800


It is a stock option.  Ford offered it on models up to at least 79.  I don't
know specifically if they were available for 66 models but I believe they
were.

Tom H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Huston, Virgil H. [mailto:vhhuston switch.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 7:36 AM
> To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
> Subject: [61-79-list] Tool Box
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> Hundreds of Ford licensed decals to put the finishing
> touch on your truck! Support FTE - Check out our store:
> http://www.motorhaven.com/
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> On my 66 F100, there is what appears to be a small toolbox built
> into the side of the bed, between the passenger door and
> wheelwell. The door
> is flush with the body and open up to a small rectangular
> compartment. I
> have never seen this before and either has anyone else I have
> talked to.
> Everyone asks me if it is stock. Does anyone know if this is
> a stock option
> or an add-on?
>
> Thanks,
> Virgil
>
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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Sway Bars
Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 14:04:54 -0800



> I have a chance to get a set of rear and front sway bars for
> my 77 F150, is ....


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