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61-79-list Digest Sun, 25 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 061

In This Issue:
Re: 67-72 dash replacement
Re: 67-72 dash replacement
Re: 360 torque specs
Re: Need info on Crew Cabs
Truck Mirrors
ADMIN: Picture Gallery Updates
Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Re: Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Re: Accelerator Pump Parts?
Re: Need some '79 Part Numbers
Re: 67-72 dash replacement
Pigeon Forge ?'s
Re: Need some '79 Part Numbers
Re: Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Re: Pigeon Forge ?'s
Re: 67-72 dash replacement
Re: Rubber Bushings
What year F-250 w/Auto and 4x4
Re: What year F-250 w/Auto and 4x4
Ford truck models

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:23:50 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 67-72 dash replacement



>Has anyone removed the dash from a 67-72 cab? I am preparing to change my cab but I would also like to install my dash into my new truck cab.  From what I can see you have a welded bracket on either side of the cab at the bottom of the dash, but what I can't tell is if the front of the dash seam is welded into the windsheild seam where the body panels meet. Can anyone help?
>Also does anyone have a source for new front body mounts?
>Can't seem to find them in my books.
>
>Forest New
>racer23 mindspring.com
>72 Ranger XLT (390 C6)
>69 Mach 1 Mustang (351C Boss C6)
>67 Mustang Coupe (351C Boss C4)

The dash pad is not glued ("welded") to anything.  The under
side of the page has a metal base that is bolted to the dash.
You need to go in under the dash and unbolt it and it comes
off quite easily.

Ken Payne



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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:18:29 -0500
From: "Joe" <Joe delnet.nasdsl.com>
Subject: Re: 67-72 dash replacement


Hi
if you want to change the whole dash(controls and all) you need to break the factory welds
if its just the dash pad it unbolts from underneath. as for frount cab mounts try
www.lmctruck.com or jc whitnney.
Joe
68 F-100 4x4
69 F-250 4x4 Crewcab "soon to be in my stable"---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:23:50 -0500

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>>Has anyone removed the dash from a 67-72 cab? I am preparing to change my cab but I would also like to install my dash into my new truck cab.  From what I can see you have a welded bracket on either side of the cab at the bottom of the dash, but what I can't tell is if the front of the dash seam is welded into the windsheild seam where the body panels meet. Can anyone help?
>>Also does anyone have a source for new front body mounts?
>>Can't seem to find them in my books.
>>
>>Forest New
>>racer23 mindspring.com
>>72 Ranger XLT (390 C6)
>>69 Mach 1 Mustang (351C Boss C6)
>>67 Mustang Coupe (351C Boss C4)
>
>The dash pad is not glued ("welded") to anything.  The under
>side of the page has a metal base that is bolted to the dash.
>You need to go in under the dash and unbolt it and it comes
>off quite easily.
>
>Ken Payne
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From: "Jeffrey Bennett" <jmb40 amexol.net>
Subject: Re: 360 torque specs
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 15:52:42 -0500


thanks Jason

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Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 360 torque specs


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> The intake gets torqued down to 32-35 ft-lbs in this order:
>                         4  7  1 9  6
>                         x  x  x  x  x
>                         x  x  x  x  x
>                         5 10 2  8  3
> The rocker arm shaft gets torqued down 40 to 45 ft-lbs.
>
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 14:38:58 -0800
From: "Kenneth Whitman" <kennyw brightwood.com>
Subject: Re: Need info on Crew Cabs


My first truck was a 1972 F-250 crewcab.  Great truck for the $200 I paid for it.  Plenty of room for 8+ people.  I know that era of trucks used coach conversion companies to build the crewcabs and different companies did things differently so parts for damaged back doors are harder to come by.  Another problem my truck had was the drip rails were one continuous rail around the entire cab and would hold water when the truck sat.  Caused a rust problem on the roof.

Kenny Whitman

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From: WhtsUpDoc2 aol.com
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 17:44:20 EST
Subject: Truck Mirrors


Hey everybody, I am on a search for type 8 mirrors. They are also known as
recreational swing-out mirrors, gooseneck mirrors. I believe they are the
same from probably 73 to the 97 heavy duty's. I first want to get a pair for
my '89 F-350, and then probably a pair for my '78. I have a pair of
universal, but the top mount will not angle to match up with factory holes.
As you all know, Ford doors curve up just a couple inches below the window. I
could just mount the universals a little lower, but that means I would have
my two factory holes for the top mount just open. I will already have the two
lower holes left open that I will have to cover. I really want to drill the
least amount of holes possible, that's why I would like to get factory
mirrors. This way I will only have to drill one more hole for the top mounts,
and the two for the legs. I have checked with several dealers and have gotten
prices from $84 and some cents to $112 and some cents. I got one guy at a
dealer to tell me that the dealer cost was $50 and some cents after I told
him that I thought it was absolutely insane to pay $85 for a mirror! Has
anyone ran into this problem? I'm still working on getting a dealer to give
them to me for cost, so I'll let you know how much luck I have. Does anybody
know of maybe an aftermarket version that is specially designed to fit fords?
By the way, the part number I was given is E2TZ17696A. Any info is
appreciated!
Jason Warner
Yukon, Oklahoma
'89 F-350 CrewCab 4x4 Diesel (7.3) 5-Speed
'78 F-250 Custom 460, C-6 Auto
'76 F-150 Ranger XLT 390, C-6 Auto
'55 F-600 Custom 292, 4-Speed

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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:59:11 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Picture Gallery Updates


The following owner's trucks have been added to the Ford
Truck Enthusiasts Picture Gallery:

1994 F-150
1992 F-150 XLT
1979 F-150 4x4
1960 F-100
1955 F-100

These are linked off the main page of the site:
http://www.ford-trucks.com

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 19:50:15 -0800


Worked on my neighbor's Daughter's car today.  Had to go find a spring
compressor for the rear springs.  Silly me, I thought I could just slip it
all together and use the weight of the car to compress it.  Couldn't even
get the spring in there without compressing it a little.  Turns out these
things are not all that bad to work on once you figure it all out.  Put a
new front axle in it and raplaced the rear spring and shock on one side and
it really wasn't all that bad.  Course that's with my lift.  I wouldn't even
have the energy to mess with it otherwise.  The lift actually makes it kinda
fun, even for an old man :-)

BTW, talked to a fellow (young too) who happens to have a 150x60 foot barn
he thinks he might turn into a shop.  Makes ya kind a jealous don't it?? :-)
He was drooling over my lift, I was drooling over his barn......BTW, if you
plan on building a barn for a shop....get it all figured out then double the
size and you will be happy for about 1 year longer before you start wishing
it was bigger.........

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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From: "Stevel" <canzus seanet.com>
Subject: Re: Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 18:41:19 -0800



----- Original Message -----
From: GaryBBB <gpeters3 lni.net>

> BTW, talked to a fellow (young too) who happens to have a 150x60 foot barn
> he thinks he might turn into a shop.  Makes ya kind a jealous don't it??
:-)
> He was drooling over my lift, I was drooling over his barn......BTW, if
you
> plan on building a barn for a shop....get it all figured out then double
the
> size and you will be happy for about 1 year longer before you start
wishing
> it was bigger.........

Sounds like barn envy to me, but, I know where you're coming from,
two years ago we doubled the size of the DC where I work, we went
from 135000 to 270000 sq ft, we just figured out it's too small, we were
hoping for about 7 years growth to fully use the added space, we're there
right now, it's a constant shuffle to accomodate the product coming in, as
apposed to the product going out, thankfully I don't have to worry about it,
as the maintenance dept just has to make damn sure all the equipment runs
flawlessly all day, every day. Which can be a problem when it comes to
the Turret Sideloaders, aka the big bastards, I had an interview with two
parts reps from Crown, who were in the area doing a meet and greet in
the Pacific Northwest, and I ripped a strip of f them both, they'd been to
Boeing, who have a couple of older units than ours, with about half the
hours of ours. I was asking why it was so difficult to get TS parts, as
all the orders I've made are factory only, also known as "wait two days",

where the hell is this going?? I don't know, I just need to vent I guess,
....sorry....

Steve & the Rockette





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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Accelerator Pump Parts?
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 22:46:01 -0500


yes its possible to buy just the  accellerator  pump. just go to your local
auto parts store & they should be able to help you  out. if you have the
metal tag off from the carb,take it with you so they can get you the right
part.
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From: GaryBBB <gpeters3 lni.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, February 23, 2001 8:23 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Accelerator Pump Parts?


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>I've never seen them separate.  Generic after market Holleys are the only
>ones I've ever seen separate parts for.  I have seen needles and seat
>separately and floats but none of the other parts.
>
>--
>Happily Retired (but broke)
>Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary
>--
>
>> Is it possible to buy just that part, or just the parts for the
>> accelerator
>> pump, instead of buying a whole carb rebuild kit? If so, where
>> would I find
>> it?
>>
>> ..chico woodhill
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Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2001 23:46:15 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann <herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: Re: Need some '79 Part Numbers



I checked all of my collision guides for the 73-79's and they do not list
any of the Seat Belt part numbers.  Do any of you FTE'ers have the Master
Parts Books or the Microfiche cards to look these up?

Dan






At 03:06 AM 2/25/01 -0500, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Can anybody with access to a parts book or collision guide help me out
>with a couple of Ford part numbers? I need to get the part numbers for
>the complete seat belt assemblies in black (if the part number is
>different) for both sides on a '79 F-250?
>I have a couple of potential sources, but some of them will only search
>by part number.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Sean
>'79 F-250 4x4, 429 4-V C6, Cincinnati, OH
>


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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:15:28 -0600
From: Doss Halsey <halsey isl-inc.com>
Subject: Re: 67-72 dash replacement


>Also does anyone have a source for new front body mounts?
>Can't seem to find them in my books.

I can't help with the dash question, but Dennis Carpenter has the cab
mounts (the real deal). Don't be tempted by the aftermarket mounts. You can
spot them as being different from 20 paces away.

Cab mounts are a chore to replace. I found it relatively easy once the cab
was off the truck and laying on its back. But, I am prohibited from
engaging in such behavior any more. If anyone has any tips for doing them
with the cab on the truck, please let me know. They are due to be replaced
on my present truck.

Doss Halsey
'67 F250 Camper Special - good lookin' on top, a little rusty underneath.



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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 05:51:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Pigeon Forge ?'s


Hey all,

I'm considering a trip to Pigeon Forge this May for the Supernats.  (May
17-20 for those that are interested.)  I've got a couple questions though.
Is this an F-100's only show or does it also include 150/250/350+ trucks
of the same vintage?  I'm mostly into the 70's trucks and I was curious
how many are represented from that vintage at this show or is it more
geared towards the earlier models?

I'm considering taking a week of vacation ending at the time of the show.
How much else is there to do in that neck of the woods?  My wife and I
enjoy hiking and bike riding and I see that PF is not too far from Great
Smoky Mountain Nat'l Park.  Having never been to this part of Tenn. how is
it for a life-long Northeasterner?  BTW I'm not into country music so
Dollywood doesn't really interst me.  :-)

Any and all help/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Eric Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast"
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"
'95 Mustang GT "Beauty"

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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Need some '79 Part Numbers
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:53:53 -0800


Not sure what you are trying to accomplish there but you can get generic
sets for about $89 from JC Whitney and other parts sources and I believe
even Dennis Carpenter has them.  Ford still lists them for around $120 as I
recall.  Just got some for my Aerostar and checked the price while I was at
it.  If I understand it correctly the Generic ones are still Ford designs
but fit more than one model as do the Ford parts you can order.  Ford only
maintains a part for service for a few years if there is any way they can
combine numbers to cover a larger number of models.  Go try to get the same
set of plug wires some time for even a new car and you will see what I
mean....one size fits all :-(

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I checked all of my collision guides for the 73-79's and they do not list
> any of the Seat Belt part numbers.  Do any of you FTE'ers have the Master
> Parts Books or the Microfiche cards to look these up?
>
> Dan
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >Can anybody with access to a parts book or collision guide help me out
> >with a couple of Ford part numbers? I need to get the part numbers for
> >the complete seat belt assemblies in black (if the part number is
> >different) for both sides on a '79 F-250?


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Well, since it's Sunday and all.......
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:02:00 -0800


Hire my son to reduce your inventory :-)  His first job as manager of the U
of M medical warehouse was to organize the inventory so it was "Just in
Time" but they could not afford to ever run out.  He was able to reduce it
considerably and then reduce it again.  Apparently his system is working :-)
Ford tried this a while back and still believes in it but they got a little
carried away and didn't anticipate production problems so eventually
increased their floats after many near disasters with production stoppages
in large assy plants due to lack of parts.  Funny thing is that the people
in charge of making these decisions are looking at paper and have never seen
the floor where the job is done so they have no clue.  They supposedly ask
for lower level input but don't always hear what they say or the truth gets
clouded by some manager's personal agenda.........Glad to be free of all
that:-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>  Sounds like barn envy to me, but, I know where you're coming from,
> two years ago we doubled the size of the DC where I work, we went
> from 135000 to 270000 sq ft, we just figured out it's too small, we were
> hoping for about 7 years growth to fully use the added space, we're there
> right now, it's a constant shuffle to accomodate the product coming in, as
> apposed to the product going out


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Pigeon Forge ?'s
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:27:15 -0800


DollyWood is more than country, it's "Americanna" and there are crafts that
are interesting and a full size train that runs through the park and you can
ride on etc..  Fun for kids and lots of things for a lady to shop for too.
We will probably plan on going there each time we visit now.  There was a
store for little girls that had really nice dresses for a very reasonable
price we thought.  We were actually surprised at the reasonableness of the
prices in all the stores in Dolly Wood.

The Smokeys are about 15 minutes from the Grand Hotel on a quiet day but
about 1.5 hours during the height of the show :-)  Unless you just like
looking at Vegas like towns, bypass Gattlinburg, it's a tourist trap and
there is virtually no parking near resturants etc..  There are many little
hiking excursions from about 1/2 mile to several miles you can take to see
some nice sites, water falls and scenic views etc..  If you veer to the
right past the welcome center you will wind up on the west side of the
mountain and in a quaint little area that is growing like a weed with
construction.  If you take the Gattlinburg bypass you will wind up in the
reservation which is actually in South Carolina (I think?) which is
basically a bunch of curio stores for tourists and stuff supposedly made by
the indians etc..  There is a really nice tape you can get at the Welcome
center that "Talks" you through the Smokeys with a nice history of the area
too.  My wife and I enjoyed that.  We spent 3 days mostly in the park and
still didn't see it all so we have something to look forward to next time
:-)  Take a jacket with you if you go to the top, even on a hot day, trust
me:-)

The 56's are the most represented class with all the other vintages and
sizes having classes through 78 (last year).  The early 60's are well
represented usually as well as panels, HD Co's and other neat things.  There
are usually a few really old ones there too but they are all Fords.  Sad to
say though that many of the really old and cool ones had Chevy engines in
them:-(  I was drooling over a rally nice burgandy 35 till he opened the
hood......:-(

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Hey all,
>
> I'm considering a trip to Pigeon Forge this May for the Supernats.  (May
> 17-20 for those that are interested.)  I've got a couple questions though.
>  Is this an F-100's only show or does it also include 150/250/350+ trucks
> of the same vintage?  I'm mostly into the 70's trucks and I was curious
> how many are represented from that vintage at this show or is it more
> geared towards the earlier models?


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 67-72 dash replacement
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 09:30:30 -0800


I'm planning on building one of those rotissaries to mount the body on and
turn it where I can work on it, frame too.  I really hate "out of postition"
welding:-)  I figure I can build one for about $500 using Northern
Hydraulic axles etc. but may be able to use some of my junk parts, just not
sure if I want full size rear axles for wheels on it :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Cab mounts are a chore to replace. I found it relatively easy once the cab
> was off the truck and laying on its back. But, I am prohibited from
> engaging in such behavior any more. If anyone has any tips for doing them
> with the cab on the truck, please let me know. They are due to be replaced
> on my present truck.
>
> Doss Halsey


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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 08:12:22 -0700
From: Brian Koss <bkoss mail.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Rubber Bushings




John wrote:
>I changedout all the bushings on my truck 7 years ago and they still look
>new. >Plusthey stand up better to the tough life they endure and the truck
>drives
>beautifully (mind you new rubber would have worked too, just not as long).


Do the urethane bushings squeek? My wife has a jeep with urethane and I
have to put lithium grease on the sway bar periodicly to stop the squeeks.

Brian



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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 11:25:43 -0600
Subject: off year question
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


Before I go join another list to ask two questions, I am going to ask them
here. Personal replies straight to me would be appreciated. These are not
rush answers. TIA.

My son just bought a 92 Explorer.
Question 1: How do you get to the right front marker light to replace the
bulb?
Question 2: Does the high mount brake light lens have anything holding it in
other than the two screws and a stuck gasket?

61-79 content: I can get to everything on my 79 F150. :-)

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:31:49 -0500
From: "Joe" <Joe delnet.nasdsl.com>
Subject: What year F-250 w/Auto and 4x4


Group

was there any 70's F-250's that had an automatic and FE(360/390) and a divorced transfer case??
Joe

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 14:13:00 EST
Subject: Re: What year F-250 w/Auto and 4x4


My dads 75 F-250 was originally a 360 c-6 with a divorced case, but was made
into a 4speed when we put it together.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "Mike Mackie" <bigred connect.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 13:00:27 -0700
Subject: Ford truck models


Any of you guys interested in seeing older Ford truck models in 1/25 scale re-issued
should go to the website 'scaleautomag.com' and click on 'Readers choice 2000"
or something to that effect. This is a place where readers can vote for the
best new models of the last year and put in a vote for all new models of vehicles
that are not available at this time. If we get enough interest, we may actually
see a 67-72 F series available as a kit. Check it out!

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