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61-79-list Digest Mon, 19 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 055

In This Issue:
Re: stumped
Re: 9 inch questions
Re: Daytona 500
I love junkyards
Re: stumped
Re: ALERT//RIPPED OFF - The other side of the story
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Re: ALERT//RIPPED OFF - The other side of the story
4BBL for Y block
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
1961 F100 Panel Delivery??
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
offlist questions
Re: 4BBL for Y block
Eric-Ford ID
Re: Daytona 500
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab
Re: Timing alignment
Re: Timing alignment
Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Re: Eric-Ford ID
Re: Eric-Ford ID
Re: stumped
Re: Timing alignment
Re: Timing alignment
Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab
vibration in front wheel
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:07:51 -0800
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
From: Don <duckdon mac.com>


on 2/19/01 4:25 PM, Eric Finn at ecfinn yahoo.com wrote:

> Well, as promised here are links to some pics I took of the more
> interesting old Ford trucks on the lot in the spare five minutes I had
> before the place closed tonight.  (Boy I gotta learn to write shorter
> sentences...)

> Here is something I have no idea how old or what it is.  Can anyone
> identify it for me?
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/Ford/Ford_1.jpg

What ya got there is a 57 cuz of the 1 headlight per side.  58-60 had dual
headlights
>
> And finally here is an old F-600 dump truck.  I don't know what year since
> the ID sticker was worn away and I don't know how to decode the VIN tags
> for something that old.  So what year is this?
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/Ford/F600_1.jpg
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/Ford/F600_2.jpg
>

Early 60's as far as I can tell.  Looking at the gril I would say 62-64.
Check to see if it has a Clark 5 speed and if it is check for over drive.
If it has OD I want it  ;)  Getting it from there to here might be a problem
:(


> Thought you all might be interested.  So does anyone need anything off
> these vehicles?  Since its a u-pull it place its all relatively cheap...
> Just thought I'd ask.
>
> Later,
> Eric Finn
>



Don Grossman
duckdon duckdon.com




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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:21:11 EST
Subject: Re: stumped


Only time Ive heard a popping sound was in my bros straight six that had
sucked a valve.  You may wanna pop the valve cover and make sure everything
is ok inside.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 20:23:19 EST
Subject: Re: 9 inch questions


Thanks for the info, much appreciated

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Daytona 500
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:33:54 -0800

I watched a news conference today with one of the physicians who worked on
Earnhardt after the crash. The HANS device was brought up several times and
the doctor said repeatedly that it was very doubtful as to whether the
device would have saved his life.

The human body is just not meant to sustain the G forces released in 180+
mph rapid deceleration regardless of any safety devices. Even if you are
able to prevent the head from moving independently of the body, the internal
organs, specifically the brain & heart, are moving at the same speed as the
whole body. They don't like deceleration either and so the brain collides
with the inside of the skull, the aorta is torn from the heart, etc.

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Pearson" <dpearson ctc.edu>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 4:20 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Daytona 500


>
> Very true...The report I heard on the news this morning stated that he
> refused to wear the safety equipment that probably would have saved his
> life...My wife commented when she heard this that at least his death
> would serve some purpose in warning others not to do the
> same...Sometimes she's pretty darn smart...




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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 17:40:52 -0800
From: Eric <ekdonaldson bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: I love junkyards


I thought of you guys today, my first day cleaning out my friend's
scrapyard before the land becomes a parking lot for a rapid transit
station. In came a complete '78 250 with a dead 460 and lots of rust. I
thought about the motor mounts and the Dana 60, but we were busy. The boss
said we were taking no more cars unless it was a big tank. At the end of
the day, the big tank came in, a '75 Merc wagon with a  78,000 mile 460, C6
and a/c. The motor ran perfectly. When I picked it up with the forklift to
punch the tank I saw the shiny new transmission. It's enough to make you
cry. Well, almost.
Eric D


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: stumped
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:08:05 -0800


That popping sound may well be an intake valve that is not seating.  Could
be a bad valve job or wrong adjustment.  Not likely to be the carb itself
IMHO.

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I just put a new head in my 1970 f100 L6 300. put it all back
> together and it
> sounded great. i let it sit in the yard for about 2 weeks and
> started it up
> and now it has this popping sound in the carburater..


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: ALERT//RIPPED OFF - The other side of the story
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:30:45 -0800


Thank you for posting this Ken.  As you know we have had a few hot heads on
the lists over the years and often they are incompetent and immature so tend
to blame everyone else for the problems they have.  Sounds like we may be
seeing it again, eh?  I once rebuilt the shock towers on a Brand X for a
young......man which was not in especially good shape in the exterior paint
dept but wasn't bad to look at.  I charged him 1/10 what the job was worth
and he had the gall to tell me he wouldn't pay because I scratched his
freshly painted car.  Turns out he was an Ex-Con who's family had a history
of trouble makers even though his dad was a preacher.  I knew there was no
hope of winning such a battle over a few dollars so let it go but I spread
the word that he was not to be trusted in business dealings.  I'm not a
fighter so I just let stuff like that slide but I do learn from mistakes
like that.  I only work for people I know pretty well now and either like
them enough to do the job for free or trust them enough to feel secure that
I will be paid :-)  Fortunately, since I don't make my living that way, I am
free to take that attitude :-)

To be fair we can't expect a dealer to send the right parts if we don't give
him the correct information either.  I've seen this issue before as well but
most dealers do make an effort to meet us at least part way in such
instances so my hat's off to the honest dealers out there, keep up the good
work, eh? :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I have received copies of emails from Tim Boyd in which Joe
> was cussing him out, calling him names and making threats.  I
> do not like having our services abused with half-truths.  If
> you have a problem with a transaction, deal with it privately
> or be prepared to tell the whole truth when using our lists to
> "warn" users.


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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 16:35:46 -0800


Where is this yard located again?  That mid 50's dump would make a nice
pickup with a PU bed on the back.  You could fill it up to over flowing with
stone and breeze on home, eh?

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Well, as promised here are links to some pics I took of the more
> interesting old Ford trucks on the lot in the spare five minutes I had
> before the place closed tonight.  (Boy I gotta learn to write shorter
> sentences...)


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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 19:59:08 -0700
From: "William (Tony) Whited" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: ALERT//RIPPED OFF - The other side of the story


Ken, You said it!!!!!

Ken Payne wrote:

>
> This is a warning, if anyone uses the lists to further their
> cause, you better be prepared to deal with facts as they come
> out if you did not present them to begin with.
>
> I have received copies of emails from Tim Boyd in which Joe
> was cussing him out, calling him names and making threats.  I
> do not like having our services abused with half-truths.  If
> you have a problem with a transaction, deal with it privately
> or be prepared to tell the whole truth when using our lists to
> "warn" users.
>
> Thanks for everyone's patience in this matter,
> Ken Payne
> Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: 4BBL for Y block
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:03:33 -0600

Nate writes:  >>  I have located a 1961 T-750 truck in a salvage yard that I might want to get
a few parts from.  Mainly I'm looking at the intake manifold (4BBL).  The
engine apears to be a Y-block of some sort- (rear dist, ram's horn exhaust),
but I know these larger trucks had some engines from the MEL family and I
know nothing about these.  I couldn't find the rating plate to identify the
engine and I did not have the opportunity to look for casting numbers on the
block.

I did, however, get the casting number from the intake.  It was C1TE 9125-C.

My questions are: What type of motor would this be?  Will the intake bolt up
to my 292?  <<

Somewhere back about the '57-'61 time frame there was a larger Y block in the
Lincolns and maybe the larger engines for the Mercs also that was something
like a 361cu in.  Not sure that is exactly the cu in, but close.  I do not know if
those engines and the 272/292/312 are the same family or not, but if you can
find someone with a '57 T'bird or Ford car intake for 4bbl they are better than the
'56 and earlier.  They have the later Holley bolt pattern(larger) whereas the '56
and earlier had the older holley and carter(small) square bolt pattern.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:33:22 EST
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)

Or Gary, You coud leave the dump bed in place and not have to shovel all that
rock out of it when you get it home!!!!!!

George M in Fl.

In a message dated 02/19/01 9:34:34 PM Eastern Standard Time,
gpeters3 lni.net writes:


> Where is this yard located again?  That mid 50's dump would make a nice
> pickup with a PU bed on the back.  You could fill it up to over flowing with
> stone and breeze on home, eh?
>
> --
> Happily Retired (but broke)
> Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
> --
>





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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 22:43:14 -0800
From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: 1961 F100 Panel Delivery??


I am a list member on the Old Econolines group at Yahoo. One of the list
members in Kentucky said he found what is supposed to be a 1961 F100 Panel
Delivery truck. Does such a beast exist?

-don

--
Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA, Keystone Chapter FCA
61 Falcon Futura, 66 Falcon Club Wagon and classic scooters



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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 18:07:10 -0800


Or.....I could put a pickup box on it, leave the dump hardware in place and
have a "Cheap" dump truck :-)  Ever price the plates for a dump as opposed
to a pickup?  I learned some neat stuff from our local "Motor Carrier
Officer" here in Michigan and one thing was that you have to have a CDL to
cross state lines under certain conditions.  With the right outward
appearance and actual curb weight you can defeat, legally, some of these
rules and have your cake and eat it too :-)

I have my eye on a pair of F-4's, 48 vintage for this very reason :-)  Now
if I can only find the add again......:-(

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> Or Gary, You coud leave the dump bed in place and not have to
> shovel all that
> rock out of it when you get it home!!!!!!
>
> George M in Fl.


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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 23:12:03 -0800
From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)


Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com> said:
>Here is something I have no idea how old or what it is.
>Can anyone identify it for me?
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/Ford/Ford_1.jpg

Looks like a '57.

-don

--
Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA, Keystone Chapter FCA
61 Falcon Futura, 66 Falcon Club Wagon and classic scooters



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From: "NP 540" <np540 hotmail.com>
Subject: offlist questions
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:45:52



Hi
Friends of mine are building up their cars; one wants to upgrade its
64 Galaxie drum brakes to disks using bolt-on farcory Ford parts if
possible. I seem to remember someone here who is member of a
"galaxie list" of some sort. Could that person contact me off-list
for web-sites concerning that?
Another of my friend wants to upgrade his 1961 Falcon to 302-engine.
I also seems to remember someone who had a falcon site of some sort.
Could that person contact me off-list about that swap?

Gerry
1978 F-150 4x4 SuperCab
1979 F-150 4x4 regular cab
Vive le FORD!

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From: "Stevel" <canzus seanet.com>
Subject: Re: 4BBL for Y block
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 21:22:58 -0800



----- Original Message -----
From: Azie L. Magnusson <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>

> My questions are: What type of motor would this be?  Will the intake bolt
up
> to my 292?  <<

One way to tell: look at the rams horn exhaust manifolds, are the bolts
in a straight line, from one end to the other?  If not, the intake won't fit
your 292...

> Somewhere back about the '57-'61 time frame there was a larger Y block in
the
> Lincolns and maybe the larger engines for the Mercs also that was
something
> like a 361cu in.

Right you are,  they don't mix parts with each other...

> if you can
> find someone with a '57 T'bird or Ford car intake for 4bbl they are better
than the
> '56 and earlier.  They have the later Holley bolt pattern(larger) whereas
the '56
> and earlier had the older holley and carter(small) square bolt pattern.

Right again, but if you can find an Edelbrock 573 intake, I'd use that
instead
Dont buy an Edelbrock 257, the carbs in good condition are few and far
between,
I know this for a fact, as I have one as a paper weight,

I guess I should mention Vintage Speed Equipment at this point....
www.vintagespeed.com  The first image you'll see is a 573, I think,
the 257 is a dual 4bbl small bolt pattern intake,  which I think I'll
turn into a blower intake.  The other alternative is getting on the
Y-Block mail list http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://yblock.web-page.net

Steve & the Rockette



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From: "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com>
Subject: Eric-Ford ID
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 02:38:42 -0500

White truck is 57, say a 3/4 or 1-ton, nice shape. That's one of the ugliest years IMO! You sure that was an F-600? Looks bigger like an F750 or whatever they had in 60's The wheels look larger and the fenders seem to bulge out more than 600. Didn't most of 60's trucks have dual headlights too? That was other thing that was odd on it.

G. L. Perry


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:55:49 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: Daytona 500


The reports I saw said that the safety gear wouldn't have done
anything to save him. He was the last driver to wear an open helmet and he
didn't wear a head/neck support. But, the doctor said it wouldn't have made
a difference.

Virgil

> Very true...The report I heard on the news this morning stated that he
> refused to wear the safety equipment that probably would have saved his
> life...My wife commented when she heard this that at least his death
> would serve some purpose in warning others not to do the
> same...Sometimes she's pretty darn smart...
>

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 05:07:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)


First GaryBBB <gpeters3 lni.net> wrote:
> Where is this yard located again?  That mid 50's dump would make a nice
> pickup with a PU bed on the back.  You could fill it up to over flowing
> with stone and breeze on home, eh?

Gary, Its located just NW of Philadelphia, PA.  A bit of a hike from your
neck of the woods I believe...  I did think of you however since you keep
"talking" about getting an old F500 or F600.  Yeah now the only question
is how much would it cost in gas to get it there and back...  :-)

Then Don <duckdon mac.com> wrote:
> What ya got there is a 57 cuz of the 1 headlight per side.  58-60 had
> dual headlights

Thought maybe this one was outside the 61-79 timeframe of the list.  It
actually looked pretty decent.

> Early 60's as far as I can tell.  Looking at the gril I would say 62-64.
> Check to see if it has a Clark 5 speed and if it is check for over
> drive.
> If it has OD I want it  ;)  Getting it from there to here might be a
> problem :(

Sadly, I did not investigate what the tranny was.  Besides I wouldn't know
what I was looking at anyway.  :-(  I'm ttrying to learn however.  I do
recall a floor shifter with a separate button attached to the top of it
with a cable than ran down alongside the shifter.  I didn't follow it any
farther back than that however.  I don't even know if it had a tranny.
Where are you located?

Then Don Haring <haring fedora.net> wrote:
> Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com> said:
> >Here is something I have no idea how old or what it is.
> >Can anyone identify it for me?
> >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/Ford/Ford_1.jpg
>
> Looks like a '57.

Well it looks like we've confirmed that the white one is indeed a '57.

--- "Gary L. Perry" <glperry fwi.com> wrote:
> White truck is 57, say a 3/4 or 1-ton, nice shape. That's one of the
> ugliest years IMO! You sure that was an F-600? Looks bigger like an F750
> or whatever they had in 60's The wheels look larger and the fenders seem
> to bulge out more than 600. Didn't most of 60's trucks have dual
> headlights too? That was other thing that was odd on it.

Gary,

All I know is that it had an F-600 badge on the side of the truck.  I
couldn't find anything to confirm this however since the only remaining
markings on the drivers door jam was the metal VIN tag and I couldn't
tell, from reading it, what it was.  :-(

Well thanks all for the quick education on these old Ford trucks.  I
really enjoy learning from the collective wisdom of this list.

Later,

Eric (learning as he goes) Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project in progress)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"
'95 Mustang GT "Beauty"

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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:18:52 GMT
Subject: Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab


I haven't seen a truck that doesn't have a gas tank there that did have this
brace, so I'd think it'd be safe to remove it.

Does that make any sense?  When I did see a truck without the gas tank (like
mine), it hasn't had the brace in there that you describe ... there we go ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:23:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Timing alignment


> Advancing the timing seems to have
>made a big difference in power so I am also considering switching to
>premium fuel.
>

If you aren't getting any pinging or anything with the advanced timing, then
likely the premium gas won't make any difference.  You can try a tank or two,
but compare your mileage between the two tanks, too much octane can actually
hurt things in the performance aspect.

On the other side of the fence I threw in some 92 before the race (ice racing
:)  this weekend and haven't heard the truck ping since, if my pocketbook can
take it, I might switch for a while and see if the mileage goes up too ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 15:33:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Timing alignment


> Advancing the timing seems to have
>made a big difference in power so I am also considering switching to
>premium fuel.
>

If you aren't getting any pinging or anything with the advanced timing, then
likely the premium gas won't make any difference.  You can try a tank or two,
but compare your mileage between the two tanks, too much octane can actually
hurt things in the performance aspect.

On the other side of the fence I threw in some 92 before the race (ice racing
:)  this weekend and haven't heard the truck ping since, if my pocketbook can
take it, I might switch for a while and see if the mileage goes up too ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Now Old Ford ID (Was: I love junkyards...)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 04:36:51 -0800


I know it's terrible but I haven't even done any skulking since I retired.
We used to have an old truck yard here but the old man died and none of his
offspring had any interest in it.  He was a "Truck" enthusiast and didn't
care if he made any money or not, he bought every truck he could find at
auction and all the county trucks etc. but it's all gone now :-(  That's
where I got my 62 F-600 CO which I dearly miss.  He had some really neat old
trucks in there that he just kinda kept guard over :-)  BTW, that button you
mentioned was for the 2 speed rear end.  Mine had one of those and they are
really cool to play with.  With a Clark it gives you 10 speeds but you have
to know which is which because in some gears the axle takes it up and in
others it goes down (has to do with the gear spacing in the tranny :-)).

In case anyone is interested the way you shifted those is to hold the gas
down to load the gears, press (or pull) the button and it would wind up a
spring in the rear end to preload the shift fork and when you suddenly let
off the gas the spring would do the shifting very fast so there was no
grinding.  If you didn't do it that way it would grind every time.  Mine
even came with instructions to that effect so I went out and practiced.  It
really worked too :-)  When I first got mine it had been sitting for a long
time and I had to remove the mechanism and clean it up after which it worked
great:-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> First GaryBBB <gpeters3 lni.net> wrote:
> > Where is this yard located again?  That mid 50's dump would make a nice
> > pickup with a PU bed on the back.  You could fill it up to over flowing
> > with stone and breeze on home, eh?
>
> Gary, Its located just NW of Philadelphia, PA.  A bit of a hike from your
> neck of the woods I believe...  I did think of you however since you keep
> "talking" about getting an old F500 or F600.  Yeah now the only question
> is how much would it cost in gas to get it there and back...  :-)


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:42:49 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: Eric-Ford ID




"Gary L. Perry" wrote:

> White truck is 57, say a 3/4 or 1-ton, nice shape. That's one of the ugliest years IMO!

Repeat after me: "There has never been an ugly Ford Truck..." (:>)


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 09:56:50 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: Eric-Ford ID


ROTFLMAO

Virgil
Beautiful 66 F-100
not quite as beautiful 72 Courier (in pieces)

> Repeat after me: "There has never been an ugly Ford Truck..." (:>)
>
>

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From: "Jerry Summerall" <k7yvz qsl.net>
Subject: Re: stumped
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 08:29:17 -0700


I didn't catch the original post so may be off line here. I was having
troubles with my old 400 with popping out the exhaust. At first it would
only do it when cold but after a few miles down the road thing were ok. But
after time it got worst and was constant. I was really stumped for a while
and finally narrowed it down to the heads. Yup had 3 bad valves(always
replace all valve springs when rebuilding ford heads). Ran like top after
the valve job.

73/Jerry K7YVZ
www.qsl.net/k7yvz
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To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 5:08 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: stumped


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> That popping sound may well be an intake valve that is not seating.  Could
> be a bad valve job or wrong adjustment.  Not likely to be the carb itself
> IMHO.
>
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> Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary
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>
> > I just put a new head in my 1970 f100 L6 300. put it all back
> > together and it
> > sounded great. i let it sit in the yard for about 2 weeks and
> > started it up
> > and now it has this popping sound in the carburater..
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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: Timing alignment
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 07:53:17 -0800 (PST)


wish wrote:
> If you aren't getting any pinging or anything with the advanced timing, then
> likely the premium gas won't make any difference.  You can try a tank or two,
> but compare your mileage between the two tanks, too much octane can actually
> hurt things in the performance aspect.

I didn't say it, but what I was thinking was running premium and advancing
it MORE!


Mark in Southwest Washington
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:11:05 -0600
Subject: Re: stumped
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> I didn't catch the original post so may be off line here. I was having
> troubles with my old 400 with popping out the exhaust. At first it would
> only do it when cold but after a few miles down the road thing were ok. But
> after time it got worst and was constant. I was really stumped for a while
> and finally narrowed it down to the heads. Yup had 3 bad valves(always
> replace all valve springs when rebuilding ford heads). Ran like top after
> the valve job.

Not to disagree but to add to... I seem to recall that the EGR valve can
cause similar problems.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:14:10 -0600
Subject: Split Fuel Line
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


I didn't have a split fuel line after all. I drove Henry to my mother's and
back to get a load of dirt on Sunday, a 110 mile round trip. He runs like
his old self again. No more gasoline smell. I think he had had too much city
life for too long.

I think the Blue Oval is about to gain a convert. My son, who has always
driven a chebby, is about to buy a very nice 92 Explorer if everything works
out.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Timing alignment
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 06:27:04 -0800


I remember my 70 montego with 250, I-6 would knock on anything less than
Sunoco 260 back then.  Stupid emissions junk anyway :-(  They were desparate
back then to outdo each other so put stuff on the market that wasn't
acceptable.  What it boiled down to was the engineers decided how each
person would drive his vehicle and made sure it couldn't be driven any other
way......sort of like modern billy bob programmers......:-(  As long as you
pretended that you were 120 years old and didn't have the energy to compress
the gas pedal more than 1/16" at a time you would never hear it knock......
I pulled a 4000# horse trailer with mine at 80+ mph on the Eway.......I did
trade it for a 68 F-100 with 352, 3 speed eventually though....they called
it a trade "Down" :-)))  I've never looked back since :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> I didn't say it, but what I was thinking was running premium and advancing
> it MORE!


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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:15:44 -0800

Thanks, I'll attack it tonight with a sawzall and a grinder. :-)


Garrett Nelson
www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: wish
 To: Garrett Nelson ; 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:18 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab


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 I haven't seen a truck that doesn't have a gas tank there that did have this
 brace, so I'd think it'd be safe to remove it.

 Does that make any sense?  When I did see a truck without the gas tank (like
 mine), it hasn't had the brace in there that you describe ... there we go ...


 Just my $.02
 wish

 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
 73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 10:25:26 -0700
From: "William Whited (Tony)" <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: vibration in front wheel


   On my 350 have a interment vibration, it feels like it is the right
front it only happens above 65 or 70 it varies a little depending on the
smoothness of the pavement, but happens none the less, I can feel it in
the steering wheel in will be a 2 or 3 second shutter then stop for 4 or
5 sec pause and then again.  I pulled the right front off last night and
nothing was loose or seemed worn.  The only thing that needs work is the
radius arm bushings, they are a little worn.  Any ideas????  TIA

--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F350 Ranger XLT Super Camper Special 460
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi



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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 12:26:59 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: FTE Web store


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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:41:27 -0600
Subject: Re: brace on inside rear wall of cab
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> I haven't seen a truck that doesn't have a gas tank there that did have this
>   brace, so I'd think it'd be safe to remove it.
>
>   Does that make any sense?  When I did see a truck without the gas tank (like
>   mine), it hasn't had the brace in there that you describe ... there we go
...

Garrett,

Before you saw it out, you need to compare a truck of the same cab design.
In other words, don't compare a 66 to a 79. Another option might be to build
a cover for the brace using some thin plywood or paneling, then covering
that with carpet. If the brace is vital and you saw it out, you could wind
up with a broken back glass.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 11:44:01 -0600
Subject: Re: vibration in front wheel
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


>  On my 350 have a interment vibration, it feels like it is the right
> front it only happens above 65 or 70 it varies a little depending on the
> smoothness of the pavement, but happens none the less, I can feel it in
> the steering wheel in will be a 2 or 3 second shutter then stop for 4 or
> 5 sec pause and then again.  I pulled the right front off last night and ....


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