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61-79-list Digest Mon, 12 Feb 2001 Volume: 2001  Issue: 046

In This Issue:
Re: Replacing 390 intake
Re: POR-15 questions
Re: Cold weather, blown starter, and I'm happy?!?!
Re: fuel line leak
Re: Vin # plate question
Re: Vin # plate question
Re: 64 F-100 Vin  plate question
Re: Axle ID, trying to help a coworker
Paint code numbers
390 intake
64 F100 steering column
Re: Cold weather, blown starter, and I'm happy?!?!
Re: 64 F100 steering column
Re: garages
Dust shields yea or nay?
Stabilizer Bar source
Re: 64 F100 steering column
Re: garages
tranny swap
Re: Plugging the smog holes
Re: Plugging the smog holes
Re: garages
Re: POR-15 questions
Re: garages

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From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:15:38 -0500
Subject: Re: Replacing 390 intake


Might wanna look at the valve seals too, while your in there.  Phil
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I am replacing my 2 barrel  intake with 4 barrel intake on my 390 what
should I plan
> on replacing while I have it apart ?

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:21:25 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: POR-15 questions


Phil,
I have their catalog and have been drooling over it - sounds too
good to be true. I assume that to be truly effective, you have to treat both
sides of the metal in question. I am going to order the floorpan/trunk
repair kit and try it on my floorboards. The one on the passeger side is
pretty holey. I thought I was going to have to get a replacement welded in,
but am going to give this a try. Thanks to the others who answered, as well.

Virgil
66 F-100

> Virgil- I've used a bunch of it on several projects (blk & silver), and I
> can say it does everything they say it will. Several other of their
> products work as well to. Call and get a free catalog to see the other
> stuff they make. Good luck, Phil  64 F-100 ( POR-15 Poster child )
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:48:31 EST
Subject: Re: Cold weather, blown starter, and I'm happy?!?!

David you have fun changing that starter in that new garage it's great being
out of the weather when working on your truck.  The first couple of times you
won't know how to handle it you are half expecting that cold breeze to blow
under that the truck and trying to prepare yourself for it.  Being from
upstate NY accross the river from Brockville I know what you mean by the cold.

Glenn NY
78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:53:27 EST
Subject: Re: fuel line leak

Have you tried running a solid line from the carb till you get away from the
heat of the eng. and then put the rubber flexable hose inline.


Glenn NY
78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:32:44 EST
Subject: Re: Vin # plate question

In a message dated 2/12/2001 9:25:16 AM Eastern Standard Time,
tim-pam williams-net.com writes:


> I would try to drill the rivets out carefully  & take the plate  off & try
> to restore it.  It might take a little  doing(carefully)  Try some paint
> stripper  --lite coats --  & when you get down close to the original
> plate,try some  finger nail polish remover to take it down the rest of the
> way.  I've done that on other  stuff that needed restored.
>

Thanks I'll give that a shot . Did you have any luck with yours ?



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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:35:44 EST
Subject: Re: Vin # plate question

In a message dated 2/12/2001 10:18:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wish ford-trucks.net writes:


> Another option if this doesn't work is to pick up a Mustang Monthly magazine,
> there's usually one or two retaillers in there who can reproduce those
> plates.
> Just a hunch that the cars and trucks used similar plates so they should be
> able to do either for you ...
>
>

I had heard that someone might remake them , but didn't know where to look .
Thanks



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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:40:23 EST
Subject: Re: 64 F-100 Vin  plate question

In a message dated 2/12/2001 4:08:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
oldfords63 juno.com writes:


> Steve- I believe those plates are available trough AutoKrafters. Give em a
> try.
>        Later, Phil (64 F-100 )
>

Yea , ok I've got one of those cats . Didn't even think to look there . DAA !



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:52:59 EST
Subject: Re: Axle ID, trying to help a coworker

In a message dated 2/12/01 11:54:40 AM Central Standard Time,
rsouther alldata.com writes:


> nyone know anything about Ford 9" diffs? Here are the numbers from the axle
> tag. Any ideas what the gear ratio is?
> The diff is out of a late 70's Lincoln.
>
> WGC-C5   4KD   2   75   9   495A.
>
>
>

The gear ratio should be 2.75 to 1 if I remember my tag correctly.


Glenn NY
78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)



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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:23:49 EST
Subject: Paint code numbers

    Hey All,
                Anybody have the paint code number for 64 academy blue .
Seems as if I got the wrong Dupont code number a while ago from the list .
The code I got was for a beige color according to the automotive paint
supplier . But I don't know if I 'll take stock in that , afterall "her"
color code book ( and computer ) didn't go back that far . And I can't
believe the list was mistaken . lol



Steve       64 f-100          351w



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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 20:22:56 -0800
From: Eric <ekdonaldson bc.sympatico.ca>
Subject: 390 intake


You'll also need a friend with a strong back.


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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:26:22 -0500
From: Peter Chesebrough <peter net-port.com>
Subject: 64 F100 steering column


Help! Does anyone out there have an exploded view of the components of
the
steering column of a 64 F100? I took mine apart to change the shift
collar
which had deteriorated, and I want to make sure I get it back with all
the pieces
in the right place. The service manual did not go there. Any help would
be
greatly appreciated.  Pete




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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Cold weather, blown starter, and I'm happy?!?!
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:51:49 -0500


I know how it is to work in the cold weather too.  I live in N.W. Ohio  & I
have to do all of my work  in the driveway on the cold ground.
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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, February 12, 2001 7:02 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Cold weather, blown starter, and I'm happy?!?!


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>David you have fun changing that starter in that new garage it's great
being
>out of the weather when working on your truck.  The first couple of times
you
>won't know how to handle it you are half expecting that cold breeze to blow
>under that the truck and trying to prepare yourself for it.  Being from
>upstate NY accross the river from Brockville I know what you mean by the
cold.
>
>Glenn NY
>78 F250 (talk about projects and headaches)
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 64 F100 steering column
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:54:27 -0500


Do you know anyone with an old chiltons  repair manual ?  They usually go
into pretty good detail on everything.
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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:38 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 64 F100 steering column


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>Help! Does anyone out there have an exploded view of the components of
>the
>steering column of a 64 F100? I took mine apart to change the shift
>collar
>which had deteriorated, and I want to make sure I get it back with all
>the pieces
>in the right place. The service manual did not go there. Any help would
>be
>greatly appreciated.  Pete
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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:59:41 EST
Subject: Re: garages

And dont forget, preferably the garage (workshop) will be detached from the
house. I found out very early on that wifes dont like their knick knacks
shaked off the house walls when those ford v8's are fired up open header in
there! Kinda lucked out down here when we got ours and it's got a seperate
garage. Didnt really remember what I said all those years ago till the first
time I worked the Bronco in it!

George M in Fl.

PS, down here we use em to keep the rain off our backs, which we havent had
in a while but is sure to come again this spring. Now if only I could get my
van in there (too tall to fit through the door!)

In a message dated 02/12/01 7:51:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
ecfinn yahoo.com writes:


> You have my condolences...  My wife and I just started looking for houses
> on Saturday.  I'm hoping I can find something even half as nice as the one
> you had to pass up.  :-(  I'm not even condering anything that has less
> than a two car garage (or at least room to expand the existing garage.)
> Now the only question is how long it will take to find what we're looking
> for...  :-)
>





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From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: Dust shields yea or nay?
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:43:02 -0800

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:11:02 -0500
From: Tony Marino <redneck raex.com>

Hey Guy-
I have to admit- all of my old trucks the first thing I do when doing wheel
bearings is remove  the spindles and take the dust shields off.  Here in NE
Ohio when the snow comes down, everytime I looked under my truck they were
packed up with snow, rocks, and debris that would be held up against the
rotor.  The same things happens when you are offroading if you do that sort
of thing.  I took mine off of my '78 about 4 years ago when I put new
rotors and hubs onto my truck and have not changed brakes, or had any
adverse wear since then

Thanks Tony,
That's what I figured too.
Pat Patrick



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From: "Air Junky" <jake airjunky.com>
Subject: Stabilizer Bar source
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:09:45 -0800

I have a '78 F150 4x4 that needs a new front stabilizer bar, I have spoken with my local Ford dealer who did a "nation wide" search for the part. They found one at a couple of different dealerships but upon calling them found out that they didn't have the part after all. I have also spoken with the guys over at the Green Sales Co. and they don't have one either. I know a couple of you guys on here have said in the past where to go for hard to find parts, but for the life of me I can't remember who, or where you said to look. Any help would sure be appreciatted, thanks!
        -Jake
Jake Kinnison
jake airjunky.com
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://airjunky.com


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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 07:27:15 -0600
Subject: Re: fuel line leak
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>


> Have you tried running a solid line from the carb till you get away from the
> heat of the eng. and then put the rubber flexable hose inline.

No, I haven't. I didn't know I could change the nipple in the carb (thanks
Dave). This sounds like an option, too. I suppose a short piece of hose
would be acceptable. Thanks for the idea.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:43:02 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: 64 F100 steering column


I'll scan the exploded view in a catalog and email it to you directly. I've
found that the best views are often in the catalogs.

Virgil

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> From: Peter Chesebrough [SMTP:peter net-port.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 11:26 PM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
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> steering column of a 64 F100? I took mine apart to change the shift
> collar
> which had deteriorated, and I want to make sure I get it back with all
> the pieces
> in the right place. The service manual did not go there. Any help would
> be
> greatly appreciated.  Pete
>
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From: "GaryBBB" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: garages
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 05:42:42 -0800


Most insurance companies give a discount on detached garages too :-)  All
the problems you guys have posted were on my list when I built my barn so it
has 12x11' doors.  I can even get my son's Blue Bird school bus in there to
work on it and close the doors.  As often happens though we can't afford to
do the whole thing at once so insulation is next and then I will have a
comfy work shop.  I debated this but after watching the fuel tanks go down
this year I decided all the shelves I have between the posts will have to
find a new home to make room for insulation :-)

My brother got the building inspector to allow him to add two coarses of
block to his foundation and raise his garage so he could get his work van in
it.  He also put in a low head room door.  All that didn't cost him too
much, just a lot of work.  He has it all insulated and drywalled with a gas
furnace in it for painting signs (that's how he makes his living).

I worked in a 8' tall, 20x24 uninsulated garage for 20 years but I did
install a Pit when I poured the floor (dirt when I moved in) and stuck a
dual fuel oil/wood home made stove in it for heat.  That stove will probably
do duty in the barn now and burn only wood since I have about a 2 year
supply out back.  I've decided to do my painting in the summer so I don't
need a spark free stove.  Maybe in a few years I will be able t afford the
Infared over head heater I dream of :-)

--
Happily Retired (but broke)
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

> And dont forget, preferably the garage (workshop) will be
> detached from the
> house.
- snip-
> in a while but is sure to come again this spring. Now if only I
> could get my
> van in there (too tall to fit through the door!)


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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: tranny swap
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 11:07:32 -0500


Anyone around Philadelphia want to swap a T-18 out of a 79 Bronco for a C6?
(I'm tired of shifting)

-bob-
79 Bronco 460 44's T18
79 Bronco 400 40's C6



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From: Ben <bluesky6 ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Plugging the smog holes
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:47:53 -0800


%
%I am looking at getting a 300 cid engine. The price is very nice.
%However, there are smog (AIR) holes which my truck's current engine
%doesn't have.
%
%Does anyone know how I can plug up the holes?

I asked this question because there was a rebuilt one at a local auto
store for $500 (vs $1300+ normal price). It had been sitting at the
back of the store for at least a year. I had a looked at it and
decided that it was too much trouble.

Ben

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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Plugging the smog holes
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:54:44 -0800


I ran a 200-6 for over a year (when I sold the car) with the AIR ports
plugged with appropriate size pipe plugs.  Was working just fine when I sold
it...

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Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Plugging the smog holes


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%I am looking at getting a 300 cid engine. The price is very nice.
%However, there are smog (AIR) holes which my truck's current engine
%doesn't have.
%
%Does anyone know how I can plug up the holes?

I asked this question because there was a rebuilt one at a local auto
store for $500 (vs $1300+ normal price). It had been sitting at the
back of the store for at least a year. I had a looked at it and
decided that it was too much trouble.

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:07:57 EST
Subject: Re: garages


Gary

I like the sounds of your shop and it's alot like my dreams (only really dont need the heaters, though cieling fans would be peachey). Ive got my eyes on the vacent lot next to me and it'll make a wonderfull workshop (and sailboat storage) while reserving the garage as parking for all but the van. Besides, the Bronco is going to go down in the near future for an, as yet undetermined ammount, of restoration & refurbishment. Having a full size workshop for that would be heaven. My last engine change was a real thrill in my current garage as it's got a low cieling due to the above "in-law" guest room. Used a very short chain, and stratiegic placement of hoists/truck and partially deflaited tires to make it work (and work it did!). But like you say, it all comes in stages and we gotta prioritize.

George M in Fl.
PS, FWIW
79 Bronco 400 C6 NP205
91 Taurus 3.0L $# % AXOD
92 E-150 Conversion 5.0L and ?EOD?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Most insurance companies give a discount on detached garages too :-)  All
the problems you guys have posted were on my list when I built my barn so it
has 12x11' doors.  I can even get my son's Blue Bird school bus in there to
work on it and close the doors.  As often happens though we can't afford to
do the whole thing at once so insulation is next and then I will have a
comfy work shop.  I debated this but after watching the fuel tanks go down
this year I decided all the shelves I have between the posts will have to
find a new home to make room for insulation :-)

My brother got the building inspector to allow him to add two coarses of
block to his foundation and raise his garage so he could get his work van in
it.  He also put in a low head room door.  All that didn't cost him too
much, just a lot of work.  He has it all insulated and drywalled with a gas
furnace in it for painting signs (that's how he makes his living).

I worked in a 8' tall, 20x24 uninsulated garage for 20 years but I did
install a Pit when I poured the floor (dirt when I moved in) and stuck a
dual fuel oil/wood home made stove in it for heat.  That stove will probably
do duty in the barn now and burn only wood since I have about a 2 year
supply out back.  I've decided to do my painting in the summer so I don't
need a spark free stove.  Maybe in a few years I will be able t afford the
Infared over head heater I dream of :-)

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From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 16:06:11 -0500
Subject: Re: POR-15 questions


Virgil, It sure won't hurt to treat both sides. I assume you mean the
inside of the floor and the bottom of the cab ?  If so, you can topcoat
the underneath with chassis black or regular paint or even undercoating.
You can just leave it.  Nuthin's gonna bother that stuff. That POR-Putty
works good too.  Phil  64 F-100 ( POR-15 from the door handles down ! )
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>   I have their catalog and have been drooling over it - sounds too
> good to be true. I assume that to be truly effective, you have to
> treat both sides of the metal in question.
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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: garages
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 17:00:34 -0800


On a new tack, sort of.  The guy who built the garage on the house I bought
poured the slab for the floor of the garage at ground level.  The lot is
fairly flat with a very slight slope away from the house.  However when the
rain comes off the roof it splashes in front of the garage doors and ends up
running into the garage.  Makes working on my truck a bummer.  I've tried
putting a gutter in the ground and drain in front of the doors and it has
helped some.  I am considering rain gutters on the eaves but am afraid the
definitive solution will be to pour more concrete to raise the floor.

Any other ideas guys?

Tom H.

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