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61-79-list Digest Mon, 18 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 371

In This Issue:
Putput shafts
Re: Putput shafts
Re: When to give up on a project???
Motorcraft 4350 parts
Re: When to give up on a project???
NEVER!!!
Re: When to give up on a project???
Re: When to give up on a project
Re: 78 dually
Intake Fitting
ADMIN: FTE Preliminary charity results
Re: Brakes......
Re: When to give up on a project???
Re: When to give up on a project???
Re: headers and burned valves
Re: vacuum canister/vacuum advance
Re: When to give up on a project???
Re: When to give up on a project???
Re: Intake Fitting
When to give up on a project???
ADMIN: Picture Gallery additions
Re: Intake Fitting
Re: headers and burned valves
YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!
Re: YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!
Re: Intake Fitting
Re: ENVY'S BOO BOO! , EBrakes

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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Putput shafts
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:24:40 -0600

Bill B. writes:  >>I thought puput shafts were only found on Briggs & Stratton engine...<<

Naw!!!  Have to include old VW's also.


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Putput shafts
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 10:36:22 -0800

Ahhh...now I get it...

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

----- Original Message -----
From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Putput shafts


> Bill B. writes:  >>I thought puput shafts were only found on Briggs &
Stratton engine...<<
>
> Naw!!!  Have to include old VW's also.




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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:35:03 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???


Eric Finn wrote:

> So far I've got the following into it.
>
> $1200 purchase price
> $350 rear drums/pads/bearings
> $150 PA registration
> $50 tuneup (cap/rotor/wires/filters)
> --------------------------
> $1850 Total spent to date
>
> The run-down of what it still needs is as follows:
> 1. Windshield - Tried to get it replaced Friday but the used glass broke
> on installation.  I was told that the pinch welds were shot in most places
> and that because of this I'd either need some serious body work or have to
> put up with water leaks.  I can get a new one installed for $150.

My brother and I had some rot in that area that he fixed when we did
the windsheild. If rotted heavily, it would be big bucks to fix if you
didn't do it yourself. Worse case is you can have windsheild pulled out,
dump a whole bunch of caulk in holes and then have new windsheild put
back in. then peel up edges of rubber gasket and caulk again, wiping
excess away. Should seal up OK for a while, unless original rot is
really severe.

> 2. The brakes are still hard as a rock and I don't know how to
> troubleshoot the problem.  Could still be anything.

Sounds like booster may be leaking (no vac) and/or rusted inside. Do
brakes work well??

> 3. Gas Tank - I know we discussed this before but this shop keeps telling
> me they need to fabricate something completely new for this since the tank
> was originally held in with a full metal "cradle" and not just straps.

I swear my 79 F250 has just straps, the frame is sitting next to my
house upside down and I can see gas tank, so I don't think a full cover
is needed. We are talking rear tank, right, not side tank? Is is std.
tank or oversize tank (did they offer oversize rear tank on F250/350
like they did on broncos??)

> They said "It could take up to a full day to fix."  I find this completely
> ridiculous but I've got nothing to back it up.
> 4.  Steering - I need a new dropped drag link and the best price I've
> found is $120.
> 5. Exhaust - I need new pipes from the manifold back to the vertical stack
> behind the cab.  I've got no idea how much this should cost. I just spoke
> with the shop and his preliminary estimate was $4-500.  Ouch!

Are you having duals put in? I don't think any 70's ford 4 X 4 came
with duals. Have you thought of buying the whole exh system in parts and
putting it in your self?

> 6. Floor - It has a few holes in the floor and this shop said they'd need
> to fix it before inspecting it.  They were covered with a piece of
> aluminum temporarily.

Sounds bogus to me, maybe find a new shop for inspection if floors
aren't really that bad.

> I figure I'm going to have to spend at least another $600 just to fix the
> windshield, exhaust, and steering.  And this doesn't even include the
> brakes or gas tank that will need addressed prior to inspection.
>
> Is this too much for this truck?  Should I cut my losses and salvage the
> usuable parts like the axles, engine/trans, etc?  I'm thinking that this
> truck is not worth more than $2500 even if I do fix everything.

How is body overall. Either way, you may be right about the price when
you are done. Unless body is near mint, I can't see you getting much
more than 3000$ out of it if everything works OK. Good part (if you
already own or are selling :-)) is these trucks seem to be going up in
price, not down.

> As you can see I'm getting a bit philosophical at the moment.  [Banging
> head against wall]  I haven't put any money into any parts of the truck
> that I'd be junking just yet.  If the truck's not going to be worth it
> then I'll probably just keep the parts and start over again on a new
> winter vehicle.

 If you don't have the ability to fix most things on an older truck,
then you might want to consider something newer. Welding floors is one
thing, but if you don't feel confident enough to install your own exh
system, then in all honesty, I'm not sure an old truck that needs work
is the vehicle for you at this point (especially since you have one
already).
One thing is that once you get a 70's truck mostly rebuilt, they'll go
another 200K if they don't rot apart in pieces :-)

> Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

What do you need to get the bronco back together?? If you do part that
F350, the front diff is worth at least 800$.


                             OX

--
78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44
boggers, 9" lift (27 54.5678498576476596875869 (street), 17 56 (4"
mud), never 0 (17" mud)).
79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5
SX's, 4"lift (It's so fast, I tore the axles right out of it).
79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift (19.3 40, pulling boat,
19.3 40, not puling boat)
86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)

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From: Brazzadog aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 13:57:58 EST
Subject: Motorcraft 4350 parts


I need a new nylon nut that goes on the end of the throttle link.  It
connects the throttle link to the accelerator pump lever.  I've e-mailed
Holley but don't expect them to be able to help.  Anybody know of a source
for obscure parts for Motorcraft carbs?

Ben Williams
'71 Wagoneer
'78 F-250 4x4
'88 Bronco

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From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 12:09:32 -0700


This may be of no help or consolation, but consider finding another shop to
do your inspection.

It's been my experience that shops that do repair work in addition to
inspections have motive to find every nit-picky violation they can.  This
creates more repair business for themselves, betting on your (my) eagerness
to get the damn vehicle on the road.  Sorry if this sounds like paranoia on
my part.

A few years ago, I finally found a shop that does little else besides
inspections, and have found them to be much more reasonable in terms of
their inspection findings, though they charge a little more for the
inspection itself.

Talk to your friends and neighbors (especially the ones with older vehicles)
to see if you can't find a better inspection site.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Finn

Well it seems like I've done it again.  My "New" '79 F-350 looks to need
more work for inspection than I can afford to spend right now.  I took it
to a local shop last week to have them fix the gas-tank and put in new
exhaust pipes since the old ones are rusted out.  Its starting to look
like I made a bad decision in purchasing this truck.  How do you know when
to get out before "spending good money after bad"?

So far I've got the following into it.

$1200 purchase price
$350 rear drums/pads/bearings
$150 PA registration
$50 tuneup (cap/rotor/wires/filters)
--------------------------
$1850 Total spent to date

The run-down of what it still needs is as follows:
1. Windshield - Tried to get it replaced Friday but the used glass broke
on installation.  I was told that the pinch welds were shot in most places
and that because of this I'd either need some serious body work or have to
put up with water leaks.  I can get a new one installed for $150.
2. The brakes are still hard as a rock and I don't know how to
troubleshoot the problem.  Could still be anything.
3. Gas Tank - I know we discussed this before but this shop keeps telling
me they need to fabricate something completely new for this since the tank
was originally held in with a full metal "cradle" and not just straps.
They said "It could take up to a full day to fix."  I find this completely
ridiculous but I've got nothing to back it up.
4.  Steering - I need a new dropped drag link and the best price I've
found is $120.
5. Exhaust - I need new pipes from the manifold back to the vertical stack
behind the cab.  I've got no idea how much this should cost. I just spoke
with the shop and his preliminary estimate was $4-500.  Ouch!
6. Floor - It has a few holes in the floor and this shop said they'd need
to fix it before inspecting it.  They were covered with a piece of
aluminum temporarily.

I figure I'm going to have to spend at least another $600 just to fix the
windshield, exhaust, and steering.  And this doesn't even include the
brakes or gas tank that will need addressed prior to inspection.

Is this too much for this truck?  Should I cut my losses and salvage the
usuable parts like the axles, engine/trans, etc?  I'm thinking that this
truck is not worth more than $2500 even if I do fix everything.

Anyone in the Philly PA area know of any good places to go to get these
things taken care of less expensively?

As you can see I'm getting a bit philosophical at the moment.  [Banging
head against wall]  I haven't put any money into any parts of the truck
that I'd be junking just yet.  If the truck's not going to be worth it
then I'll probably just keep the parts and start over again on a new
winter vehicle.

Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
BTW you can see the truck at the following web address...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=1340

Later,

Eric Finn (getting poorer the deeper he gets into his Fords...)
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project stalled)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://shopping.yahoo.com/


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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: NEVER!!!
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:10:27 -0500


Eric, I'd like to help, but I'm busy with my truck when I get the chance to
work on it.  Working in the cold isn't always my idea of a fun hobby anyway.
I'm agreeing with most of the list, in that you should keep it or give it to
me. ;-)  $1850 isn't a lot to have into a truck, I have over 15 in the two
of mine combined (and that's with doing all the work myself).  If you can,
you should really check out Shorty and Daves for the parts you need.  It's
like Forest Gump said.... "junk yards like a box of chocolates, ya never
know what you gona git"

-bob-
79 Bronco 460 44's T18
79 Bronco 400 40's C6

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Eric Finn
Sent: Monday, December 18, 2000 11:01 AM
To: FTE
Subject: [61-79-list] When to give up on a project???



Well it seems like I've done it again.  My "New" '79 F-350 looks to need
more work for inspection than I can afford to spend right now.  I took it
to a local shop last week to have them fix the gas-tank and put in new
exhaust pipes since the old ones are rusted out.  Its starting to look
like I made a bad decision in purchasing this truck.  How do you know when
to get out before "spending good money after bad"?

So far I've got the following into it.

$1200 purchase price
$350 rear drums/pads/bearings
$150 PA registration
$50 tuneup (cap/rotor/wires/filters)
--------------------------
$1850 Total spent to date

The run-down of what it still needs is as follows:
1. Windshield - Tried to get it replaced Friday but the used glass broke
on installation.  I was told that the pinch welds were shot in most places
and that because of this I'd either need some serious body work or have to
put up with water leaks.  I can get a new one installed for $150.
2. The brakes are still hard as a rock and I don't know how to
troubleshoot the problem.  Could still be anything.
3. Gas Tank - I know we discussed this before but this shop keeps telling
me they need to fabricate something completely new for this since the tank
was originally held in with a full metal "cradle" and not just straps.
They said "It could take up to a full day to fix."  I find this completely
ridiculous but I've got nothing to back it up.
4.  Steering - I need a new dropped drag link and the best price I've
found is $120.
5. Exhaust - I need new pipes from the manifold back to the vertical stack
behind the cab.  I've got no idea how much this should cost. I just spoke
with the shop and his preliminary estimate was $4-500.  Ouch!
6. Floor - It has a few holes in the floor and this shop said they'd need
to fix it before inspecting it.  They were covered with a piece of
aluminum temporarily.

I figure I'm going to have to spend at least another $600 just to fix the
windshield, exhaust, and steering.  And this doesn't even include the
brakes or gas tank that will need addressed prior to inspection.

Is this too much for this truck?  Should I cut my losses and salvage the
usuable parts like the axles, engine/trans, etc?  I'm thinking that this
truck is not worth more than $2500 even if I do fix everything.

Anyone in the Philly PA area know of any good places to go to get these
things taken care of less expensively?

As you can see I'm getting a bit philosophical at the moment.  [Banging
head against wall]  I haven't put any money into any parts of the truck
that I'd be junking just yet.  If the truck's not going to be worth it
then I'll probably just keep the parts and start over again on a new
winter vehicle.

Any and all help/advice/opinions/suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
BTW you can see the truck at the following web address...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=1340

Later,

Eric Finn (getting poorer the deeper he gets into his Fords...)
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project stalled)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"

__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://shopping.yahoo.com/



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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:16:15 -0500
From: "Huston, Virgil H." <vhhuston switch.com>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???


I found that a bottle of Jack Daniels on the passenger seat does
wonders for inspections. My state did away with inspections a few years ago,
thank goodness.

Virgil

> This may be of no help or consolation, but consider finding another shop
> to
> do your inspection.
>
>

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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 14:58:16 -0600
From: Steve Schaefer <schaefer PLASTEKGROUP.COM>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project


Eric,
Don't get down about it.  Lets take this a couple of steps at a time.  A couple of these have been
answered, so most of this is just reassurance.

>
>
> Well it seems like I've done it again.  My "New" '79 F-350 looks to need
> more work for inspection than I can afford to spend right now.  I took it
> to a local shop last week to have them fix the gas-tank and put in new
> exhaust pipes since the old ones are rusted out.  Its starting to look
> like I made a bad decision in purchasing this truck.  How do you know when
> to get out before "spending good money after bad"?
>
> So far I've got the following into it.
>
> $1200 purchase price
> $350 rear drums/pads/bearings
> $150 PA registration
> $50 tuneup (cap/rotor/wires/filters)
> --------------------------
> $1850 Total spent to date
>
> The run-down of what it still needs is as follows:
> 1. Windshield - Tried to get it replaced Friday but the used glass broke
> on installation.  I was told that the pinch welds were shot in most places
> and that because of this I'd either need some serious body work or have to
> put up with water leaks.  I can get a new one installed for $150.

Unless rusted thru, it will seal.

>
> 2. The brakes are still hard as a rock and I don't know how to
> troubleshoot the problem.  Could still be anything.

My guess is a booster.  Go to the yard and find 1.

>
> 3. Gas Tank - I know we discussed this before but this shop keeps telling
> me they need to fabricate something completely new for this since the tank
> was originally held in with a full metal "cradle" and not just straps.
> They said "It could take up to a full day to fix."  I find this completely
> ridiculous but I've got nothing to back it up.

Bull cr p.  If it is held in with a cradle, then replace the cradle. I am assumming that this is a
tank from a Bronco (really the only truck of that vintage with a cradle), so just find a Bronco
cradle out of a junk yard.

>
> 4.  Steering - I need a new dropped drag link and the best price I've
> found is $120.

Not much you can do here.  Bite the bullet.

>
> 5. Exhaust - I need new pipes from the manifold back to the vertical stack
> behind the cab.  I've got no idea how much this should cost. I just spoke
> with the shop and his preliminary estimate was $4-500.  Ouch!

Again Bull Cr p.  I just paid $256 for complete dual 2 1/2 pipe (front to back) on my 76 Crewcab
(too the tune of 37' of pipe).  Find someplace else.

>
> 6. Floor - It has a few holes in the floor and this shop said they'd need
> to fix it before inspecting it.  They were covered with a piece of
> aluminum temporarily.

Find another shop.  A few screws thru the aluminum should be plenty fine for any inspection
station.  I am in PA and the shop I go to passed my Bronco and the hole in the floor was cover with
a pc of steel that was siliconed in (dont worry, new floor pan planned for spring)

Stick with it, you will be glad you did.

Steve S.
54 F-100
76 F-350 Crew cab
77 F-250 Supercab
79 Bronco
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/8663/





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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 15:03:33 -0600
From: Steve Schaefer <schaefer PLASTEKGROUP.COM>
Subject: Re: 78 dually

I saw this truck also.  I can tell you that this is not factory.  Ford never offered the DRW option
with a bed.  You had to order a cab chassis in order to get the DRW.  They make the conversion kits
for trucks.  It included wheel spacers and fenders.  I have done this on my crew cab.  My truck
started as a Crewcab chassis.  I used a set of fender that were originally for a 80-86 truck (at
least that was what the fuel doors were) and fiberglassed the missing areas. They do make the fender
specifically for the 73-79 body.  The wheels need to be spaced out about 4" on each side.  I did not
have these spacers on when I tried to put the bed on.  The bed will not fit without the spacers.

BTW nice truck for $2000.

Steve S.
54 F-100
76 F-350 Crew cab
77 F-250 Supercab
79 Bronco
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/8663/




>
> Now I've seen them all...  I was surfing ebay today and found this:
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=522344669
>
> It's a '78 supercab, dually with a styleside box and "dually fenders".  The
> fenders are what caught my attention.  All the '73-'79 duallys I've seen
> have flatbeds, not boxes.
>
> Just thought I'd share...
>
> Marty



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From: "David & Kathy Weier" <kdweier gci.net>
Subject: Intake Fitting
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 11:59:35 -0900

Hello List,

    I've been watching the list now for the last couple of months...some
fine information comes from all of you!!! I've owned my '76 F-150 4X4 since
1985, and I could work on it blind-folded. However, I learn something new
quite a bit form all of you on the list - THANX!!!

    My question is my intake manifold...I have a 390 4BBL, and the heater
hose fitting seems to be leaking. I just put new hoses on and rechecked the
clamp. For lack of not touching it in who knows how many years, I think it
has seen it's useful life. I doubt that after this long that it's loose, so
I want to replace it. (I fear that it may be rusted). Kinda an oddball part,
can I get one of these at NAPA or Schucks maybe??? I'm here in Alaska, so I
don't have the wealth of part stores you all do in the lower 48. I called
both places, they say that they are not sure to bring the part in to look
at. EXCUSE ME!!! I'll take it out when I have the replacement thank you!!!
Hard to find good counter help at parts stores theses days!!!

Thanks for the help and keep up the good work!!!

David L. Weier II
Elmendorf AFB, Alaska
76 F-150 4X4
86 Bronco II
72 Mustang Coupe


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Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:13:30 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: FTE Preliminary charity results


Okay gang, here are the preliminary results for the 2000
FTE charity drive.  This is by no means accurate, my helper
is out sick today so I ran the charity credit card orders
that I had access to and I believe there were a couple of
checks sent. I'll have a total on those when she gets back.
Also, I've received news that some checks were sent directly
to the family in need directly and I do not have a total on
those nor will I ask the family for the amounts.

Anyway,  we have a total of exactly $500 in credit card
donations raised so far.  A check is being FedEx'd to the
family so they can use it in time for the holidays.  I'll
report on additional funds as I get the totals.  FTE is
absorbing the credit card processing fees and is donating
the FedEx charges in addition to my donation.

Thanks everyone for making this year's drive successful!
Your generosity will make a difference for 2 young
children this year!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:41:17 EST
Subject: Re: Brakes......

Haven't we all done that before, your not alone by any means.


Glenn NY

78 F250



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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:07:17 -0800


I'd buy it from you for $1850.  It doesn't look that bad.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke
"As fast as necessary, as slow as possible"



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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 16:16:56 -0800



> > 3. Gas Tank - I know we discussed this before but this shop keeps
telling
> > me they need to fabricate something completely new for this since the
tank
> > was originally held in with a full metal "cradle" and not just straps.
Go to a Ford dealer and have them give you a copy a picture of the gas tank
mounting for a 350 and show it to the shop.  I think OX is right about it
being the same as a 250.  The body and frame were almost identical in 79.
If its for a rear mounted tank, I have some straps for the tank and a
complete tank.

Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke
"As fast as necessary, as slow as possible"




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From: "craig sharp" <csharp29 home.com>
Subject: Re: headers and burned valves
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 19:26:34 -0500


Sean:

You need to check your plugs to see how they are burning. If they are really
light chocolate or near white, then you need to re-jet your carburetor,
whether you have tail pipes or not. You can run with open headers with plugs
that seem to work best and once you have your exhaust pipes on, you can run
with the next hotter plug.

How long do you plan on doing this... from your shop to the muffler shop?
Or, off road?

Craig


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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: vacuum canister/vacuum advance
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 17:24:06 -0800



>
>
> Would it be detrimental to put a vacuum canister inline with
> the vacuum
> advance?  I have an F-350 camper special duel piped canister
> in-between the
> vacuum advance and carburetor.
>
>  -bob-
> 79 Bronco 460 44's T18
> 79 Bronco 400 40's C6
>

I think it would change the operation of the advance system on the engine.
The vacuum advance is usually used to vary the advance proportional to the
demand on the engine as reflected by the vacuum.  Putting a canister on the
vacuum advance would cause a more steady state signal to the vacuum advance
unit.  Course that's my idea.  You might never notice a difference.

Tom H.

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:49:29 EST
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???

In a message dated 12/18/00 10:01:14 AM Central Standard Time,
ecfinn yahoo.com writes:


> www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=1340
>
>

Just checked out the truck in my opinion aside from a few bumps and bruises I
think your rig is in good shape.  I just fiberglassed my floors and rear cab
corners.not to mention changeing frames.  (Good old winters in NY ,  they
love the salt on the roads but don't help our old rigs none.)



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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 20:55:11 EST
Subject: Re: When to give up on a project???

In a message dated 12/18/00 11:00:15 AM Central Standard Time,
redneck raex.com writes:


> You don't... You just keep going, and going, and going....  Until you die....
>
>
Those are the truest words ever spoke!!!!!



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From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
Subject: Re: Intake Fitting
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 18:28:51 -0900


David what size fitting is it? The pipe thread size and pitch is important
to getting you the right part. If you arent busy tomorrow call me 277-3546
that is the Napa store on Spenard road in anchorage, ask for Keith, I should
be able to match ya up something, or even if you can drive the truck over so
I can get a rough estimate, but it shouldnt be too big of a problem and
should only run about 6-15$ somewhere in there, never to sure about those
weatherhead fittings, but thats about all I got,
Keith
Anchorage Alaska
71 F250 4x4 (Power assist = Gods curse on man!)
-----Original Message-----
From: David & Kathy Weier <kdweier gci.net>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, December 18, 2000 12:00 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Intake Fitting


>Hello List,
>
>     I've been watching the list now for the last couple of months...some
>fine information comes from all of you!!! I've owned my '76 F-150 4X4 since
>1985, and I could work on it blind-folded. However, I learn something new
>quite a bit form all of you on the list - THANX!!!
>
>     and the heater
>hose fitting seems to be leaking. I just put new hoses on and rechecked the
>clamp. For lack of not touching it in who knows how many years, I think it
>has seen it's useful life. I doubt that after this long that it's loose, so
>I want to replace it. (I fear that it may be rusted). Kinda an oddball
part,
>can I get one of these at NAPA or Schucks maybe??? I'm here in Alaska, so I
>don't have the wealth of part stores you all do in the lower 48. I called
>both places, they say that they are not sure to bring the part in to look
>at. EXCUSE ME!!! I'll take it out when I have the replacement thank you!!!
>Hard to find good counter help at parts stores theses days!!!
>
>Thanks for the help and keep up the good work!!!
>
>David L. Weier II
>Elmendorf AFB, Alaska
>76 F-150 4X4
>86 Bronco II
>72 Mustang Coupe
>
>
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>-- Type: application/ms-tnef
>-- File: winmail.dat
>
>
>


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject:  When to give up on a project???
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 22:45:42 -0500


the windshield could most likely be repaired with some POR 15 and a little
fiberglass cloth from NAPA thats where i get it at least and the floors also
BUT i think MILL SUPPLY has the floor pans for about 30.00 or so for each
side ready to slip in and jut braze them a little bit
the exhuast pipes i had dual stainless with thrush tourbos stuck on my 62 t
bird made for 225.00 and they will never rust out now go to a scrap yard and
get the stainless pipe yourself then find somone to bend it and install it
for you that would be the cheapest way to do it i think
like the others said the brake booster or vacuume must be bad for the pedal
to be so hard on it does this have hydraulic assist on it to
gordon



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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 04:52:27 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Picture Gallery additions


The following trucks have been added to the Ford
Truck Enthusiasts Picture Gallery:

1979 F-100
1960 F-100
1954 F-100

All are linked off the main page of the web site.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:26:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Intake Fitting


>
>David what size fitting is it? The pipe thread size and pitch is important

>to getting you the right part.

I think this part is a standard pipe thread, the size though I'm not positive
on ... thinking about it, I've got one or two around as when I rebuild the 390
it had one that was about 6" long!  I'd never seen one quite like it before,
but it helps to get the hose farther up so I used it ...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish/Images/Truck/eng19.jpg

in that url you can see it as the long shiny thing on the front of the motor.
If you can't find anything lemme know I can try and run to NAPA and get a part
number for you ...

though thinking about it, couldn't they just get a replacement water pump from
the back of the store then get you one to fit in that ???

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:14:22 -0500
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: headers and burned valves

> You need to check your plugs to see how they are burning. If they are really

I'll do that, once I've got it running.  Still need to hook up the choke
cable and return springs.

> How long do you plan on doing this... from your shop to the muffler shop?
> Or, off road?

Just from my shop to the muffler shop.  And maybe up and down the ridge
road a couple of times--my wife can't wait to hear the noise (seriously!).

==sean

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From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:46:21 EST
Subject: YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!


Hey guys! Well, yesterday was my first trip to "Pick-A-Part" with the farm
boys since I needed a new grille and my boyfriend needed a windshield wiper
fluid reservoir thingy <Gotta love the technical terms> Anyways, as we walk
through the rows and rows of beat up old trucks, a few matched my year but
the grill was either in worse shape then mine or not there at all. So I find
my boyfriend looking at the "thingy" he needed in this one car  smack dab in
the middle of the junkyard. As I am becoming bored while he fiddles with the
thingy I notice something sittin on the trunk of this car so I go
investigate, and ya know what it was? The EXACT year of the grille I needed,
in great condition with the 2 plastic inserts included....allready
dismantled......CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? The Ford Gods must have been lookin
down upon me that day! *sigh* And the best part was, when we were paying for
it, it shoulda been $60.00 but I got it for $35.00 because the guy felt sorry
for me cuz the boys made ME carry thing dang grille through the junkyard and
he gave me another lil discount fer being cute LOL Gotta love that! =)
Anyways, I just hope it is still in the back of my truck since it was windy
like crazy herelast night. Just thought I'd share that story w/ y'all cuz I
thought it was pretty darn cool! =) Oh yeah and the best part was there was
traffic on the way home so I got to have quite a conversation with the
truckers on the freeway, got 'em to honk their horn and flash their light
when I drove by........YEE-HAW!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~*

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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:54:13 -0800


Lisa,
On your first trip to Pick-a-part, you learned one of the cardinal rules...

Look in trunks!  People pull good parts and stash them to come back later.
Someone is gonna be bummed when they discover someone found the grille.

Wasn't it nice for them to pull it for you?

-----Original Message-----
From: Bad4dFilly aol.com [mailto:Bad4dFilly aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2000 7:46 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com; offroad-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS!



Hey guys! Well, yesterday was my first trip to "Pick-A-Part" with the farm
boys since I needed a new grille and my boyfriend needed a windshield wiper
fluid reservoir thingy <Gotta love the technical terms> Anyways, as we walk
through the rows and rows of beat up old trucks, a few matched my year but
the grill was either in worse shape then mine or not there at all. So I find

my boyfriend looking at the "thingy" he needed in this one car  smack dab in

the middle of the junkyard. As I am becoming bored while he fiddles with the

thingy I notice something sittin on the trunk of this car so I go
investigate, and ya know what it was? The EXACT year of the grille I needed,

in great condition with the 2 plastic inserts included....allready
dismantled......CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? The Ford Gods must have been lookin
down upon me that day! *sigh* And the best part was, when we were paying for

it, it shoulda been $60.00 but I got it for $35.00 because the guy felt
sorry
for me cuz the boys made ME carry thing dang grille through the junkyard and

he gave me another lil discount fer being cute LOL Gotta love that! =)
Anyways, I just hope it is still in the back of my truck since it was windy
like crazy herelast night. Just thought I'd share that story w/ y'all cuz I
thought it was pretty darn cool! =) Oh yeah and the best part was there was
traffic on the way home so I got to have quite a conversation with the
truckers on the freeway, got 'em to honk their horn and flash their light
when I drove by........YEE-HAW!

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
*~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~*

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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Intake Fitting
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:55:33 -0800



>
> Hello List,
>
<snip>
>      My question is my intake manifold...I have a 390 4BBL,
> and the heater
> hose fitting seems to be leaking. I just put new hoses on and
> rechecked the
> clamp. For lack of not touching it in who knows how many
> years, I think it
> has seen it's useful life. I doubt that after this long that
> it's loose, so
> I want to replace it. (I fear that it may be rusted). Kinda
> an oddball part,
> can I get one of these at NAPA or Schucks maybe??? I'm here
> in Alaska, so I
> don't have the wealth of part stores you all do in the lower
> 48. I called
> both places, they say that they are not sure to bring the
> part in to look
> at. EXCUSE ME!!! I'll take it out when I have the replacement
> thank you!!!
> Hard to find good counter help at parts stores theses days!!!
>
> Thanks for the help and keep up the good work!!!
>
> David L. Weier II
> Elmendorf AFB, Alaska
> 76 F-150 4X4
> 86 Bronco II
> 72 Mustang Coupe
>
>

Hi Dave,
How is Elmendorf these days?  I used to live across from Mt Spurr Elementary
there on base.  Is this fitting a right angle fitting coming out of the top
of the manifold?  I have a 76 with a 390 and I'm having trouble picturing
this right now.  I'll look tomorrow and see.  Maybe a plumbing store?

Tom H.

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