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61-79-list Digest Wed, 13 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 366

In This Issue:
Re: Brake pedal "stuck"
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding
C 6
Re: It Worked
motor mounts
Knock Knock update #1
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: Knock Knock update #1
Re: c6 tranny - divorced tcase
Painting ??'s
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: It worked
ADMIN: Ad Announcement
61 truck upgrade
Re: Painting ??'s
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: Engine missing - 1978  400  (Update #3)
Overdrive Tranny
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: Choke, Rochester ?
Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding
Re: Brake pedal "stuck"
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Re: Painting ??'s
Re: Brake pedal "stuck"
Re: Painting ??'s
Re: Painting ??'s
Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding
Re: Knock Knock update #1

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:13:24 -0500
From: William King <kingw bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Brake pedal "stuck"


Eric,
I'm in digest mode, so perhaps this has already been suggested.
I had to install a spring under my dash (to pull the brake pedal
back up) on both my 68 F100 and 68 Torino. I used a carb-return
spring in both cases.  Mind you, the brake pedal in neither goes
all the way to the floor, so the spring just helps return the pedal
to the fully-up  position.  I also found the brake linkage on my
Torino was a bit stiff (even w/ the MC pulled out), so I had to pull
it apart and lube it up.  Helped a lot.

As a funny note, one day the spring in my truck broke when I applied
the brake.  The spring shot out, hit me in the place you don't want
to be hit (No. Not in the eye...), and ricocheted out the open window.
*Doh*  Scared the bejeepers outta me at the time b/c I didn't know
what hit me.  Funny now, but not so funny at the time. :-)

Hope this helps.
Ohio Bill
1968 F100 360 2v 4 speed
1968 Torino GT 429 4v 5 speed

>I've got one more question about my '79 F-350.  It seems that my brake
>pedal won't come back up off the floor.  Sometimes it will and sometimes
>it won't.  The brakes seem to be ok but its hard to tell since I can't
>drive it (being not inspected and all.)  I can put my foot under it and
>pull it back up but that's not acceptable in the long run.  :-)


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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:20:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?


I've been following this with vague interest as it gets discussed quite a bit,
but its always interesting to find out if they really have an ls rearend or
not, but Michael, this post has me completely shaking my head ...

> There are 2 types of LS commonly used, a 2 piece case, and
>a 2 pinion LS. The 2 pinion LS resembles an open differential by appearance,

>but is noticably different.

A 2 pinion ?  Isn't the pinion the part that connects to the drive shaft ?
So ... then how does this 2 pinion thing work ?  I mean great, you put an idler
on the other side of the ring gear, that would be a second pinion I guess, but
it still wouldn't give you a limited slip ... somehow you have to connect the
two axles in order to set up a limited slip or locking scenario ...

And what exactly do you mean by "resembles and open differential by appearance,
but is noticeably different" ?  Does that mean just like it, only not ?

>If you spin one rear wheel with the rear axle raised off the ground and the

>other rear wheel rotates in the opposite dirrection, then you have a regular

>rear axle.
>

Yup, a pretty solid test from what I've seen, very few ls's, even really worn
ones, ever emulate the open diff when there's no load on the tires ...
Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:37:49 -0500
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding

> When I try to shift into third gear, I have to push (moderately hard) to the
> far right of the gate, and then up, for it to go in.  Otherwise, it grinds.

Probably just worn syncros.  My 78 150 with 4 speed sometimes needs
a double push to hit 3rd--first push enough to feel the syncro resistance,
then back off, then go all the way into gear.  Also have to be careful
not to shift from 3rd to 4th if I've been driving steady-state or
decelerating in 3rd.  I'm guessing with the 3rd to 4th quirk that a shaft
somewhere has ovalled its mount, and acceleration forces are needed
to keep it pushed against the correct side of the slop.

Sometimes such quirks irritate me, other times I just remind myself
that old vehicles aren't unreliable, they just have lots of character :).
And no car payments to worry about :) :).

--sean

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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: C 6
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:40:13 -0600

Steve S. writes:  >>If I shift into Reverse first, then try to shift into drive,
it will not engage drive, until the truck cools down <<

All C6's that I'm familiar with start off in 1st gear  when in D range.

Are you saying that forward gears do not engage when you put the tranny in D
directly after being in reverse??  If this is the case, then will it engage in 2 or 1???
If it will engage in any other of the forward ranges, then I would think you have a
valve in the valve body sticking..  If not, then I'm clueless..

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:35:48 -0600
From: Doss Halsey <halsey isl-inc.com>
Subject: Re: It Worked


Dan,

Congratulations on the power steering swap. I did the same and my biggest
fear was that I would spend all that money and time collecting used parts
and the steering gear or the pump would be shot. It didn't turn out to be
the case. And it sounds like it didn't happen to you either.

I have two comments about the swap. One - I also had a problem with the
length of the new shaft (from a power steering truck) I used in my old
column housing (from my manual steering truck). I ended up adding some big
washers to the bottom of the shaft to change the point at which the lower
bearing contacted the shaft. I also had to grind off some material from the
little clamp at the bottom. It turns out that there is a clamp which is
specific to the power steering trucks (different part number). Also, the
center shaft came up past the nut on the top too far to put my horn button
on. I ended up cutting a hole in the back of my horn button. It worked
fine, turn signals and all

The other thing you did not mention was the sheet metal "thing" that mounts
to the firewall and holds the bottom of the column in place with a clamp.
It is different for the power steering trucks. Using the old manual "thing"
puts a downwards stress on the column. I'm thinking it would wear out the
steering column bearings prematurely.

Doss Halsey
'67 F250 Camper Special
'68 F250 Camper Special
'72 F250 Camper Special


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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: motor mounts
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:02:10 -0600

This is for the 67-72 trucks, are the motor mounts the same between the
240/300 and 302s? Not sure when the 302 came out in the pickup, so this
could be a dumb question. Let me know.
-Eric



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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 09:59:36 -0500
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Knock Knock update #1

Coolant was low, which explains the hot running.  I'm usually very
particular about keeping fluids at their proper levels, so that's
an embarassing find.

I've tried the heater hose stethoscope trick three times now and can't
hear anything strange.  Not much sound at all when placed against the
water pump, nothing but quiet valve train sounds on the valve cover,
and what I assume is normal smooth running sounds at various points on
the oil pan.

To make things even more fun, the knock has become even more sporadic.
I'll pull into the driveway with it clearly audible in the cab.
Grab the heater hose, crawl under the truck and go through the motions.
Find nothing, poke my head back in the cab to see if the knock is still
there.  Nope, gone.  Maybe it's an atomic particle knock--the act of
observing it makes it disappear :).

One more, maybe unrelated question.  When starting the engine
after it sits for a day or more, I get a whooshing scraping sound for
maybe 1 second after the engine catches.  This only happens the first
time the engine is run after an extended sit.  Is that the sound of
lifters that have drained down, or would that be more of a
clatter?  This isn't a new noise--has done it since I bought the
vehicle.  Just curious...

--sean

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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:30:42 -0800


Replies within:

> A 2 pinion ?  Isn't the pinion the part that connects to the drive shaft ?
2 pinion refers to the spider gears.  A Dana 2 pinion LS is called a Trac
Loc, and a 4 pinion is called
a Power Loc.  The 4 pinion (spider gears) are inherentely stronger and work
better than the 2 pinion Trac Loc.

> So ... then how does this 2 pinion thing work ?
It has 2 or 4 gears moving around the side gears.

Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke
"As fast as necessary, as slow as possible"



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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:20:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Knock Knock update #1


>To make things even more fun, the knock has become even more sporadic.
>I'll pull into the driveway with it clearly audible in the cab.


I don't know if you've said which tranny you've got in the truck, but if its
an auto, could it be the torque converter or something making a racket ?  I'd
also start checking for loose things in the engine compartment or nearby ...
that washer fluid canister that's only held on by one bolt and starts clunking
at a certain RPM, or something like that maybe ?

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 08:24:12 -0800 (PST)
From: Brett Yerks <byerks yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: c6 tranny - divorced tcase


Might possibly do the swap over christmas weekend.
The only problem that came up is the fact that the 2wd
c6 will not have the holes to mount the tcase shifter.
That won't be too big of a deal for me if I don't
have a shifter, its just a mud truck so if I need to
get it out of 4wd I can just climb under and do it
manually.  I'll let you know if I do the swap what
happens.

Brett
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--- clint kelland <ckelland klondiker.com> wrote:
>
> hey brett
>  how did you make out with the tranny?did you put in
> the c6 yet .if so how
> did it work for you.i am thinking about doing the
> same project with my 73
> f250
> thanks
> clint

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From: Fifty7F100 cs.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 12:18:49 EST
Subject: Painting ??'s


FTEers,

I asked this question on the pre61 side, but got no answer. My wife just
bought me a 5 HP - 13 gal air compressor for my b'day. Has anyone made a HVLP
paint gun that will run off of this small of a compressor?


Glenn in TN  <----- we didn't vote for Gore - that should tell you something!
57 F100 -- in process

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 13:46:36 -0500
From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?


At 09:27 AM 12/13/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I want a Locker  ;-)
>
>Anybody?  When did Ford put in a factory locker?

They didn't, at least that I know of.  Except for some knowledgable
four-wheelers, and a few drag racers (who actually use spools more than the
locker you are referring to):  to most people locker, locking diff, limited
slip, Posi, and Trak-loc all mean the same thing: a clutch type limited
slip unit.  So if anybody tells you they have a locker, ask them what
kind.  If they don't say Detroit Locker, Air Locker, Powertrax, Lock-Right,
True-Trac (which is a limited slip, but not clutch type, it works with
gears and is based on the Torsen units) or spool, then it is most likely
that they have a clutch type limited slip.

George Selby
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd
86 Nissan 300ZX
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From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: It worked
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 19:25:34


Congrats on the power steering, I did that to my '73 about a year ago.  The
difference is unimaginable, you thought you liked to drive your truck
before, now it's even better.  Not that tough either, is it...

You said that the shaft is a little too long, did you try to move the
column?  My '73 column has oval holes where it bolts up under the dash,
maybe you could loosen the column and slide it up so it's closer to the
steering wheel.  Might be able to move it far enough to cancel the signals.
Just a thought.

Marty
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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 14:43:18 -0500
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Ad Announcement


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From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:54:10 EST
Subject: 61 truck upgrade


From: "Erol" <erolb turk.net>
Subject: 302 Engine on 61 F-100
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 15:22:21 +0200


<<Dear All,

I am placing a V8 302 with a C4 Auto Trans. to my 1961 F100, I am also
thinking to update the brakes to a disc system. I appreciate your comments
or experiences you have had.

Regards

Erol B.
Istanbul-Turkey>>

Erol,

first of all, your mounts for the 302 are ava. through many aftermarket outlets including JC Whitney.  they also carry a mount for the trans as well, but a crossmember from a later truck will fit too (up till 1972 i believe).  they also make mounts for 460's, 351m-400, FE's, and Ch*vies.

the disc brakes are a bit trickier, but Bob's F100's makes an adapter to use GM calipers and Mopar (?) roters.  As long as your going thru the trouble you can swap the steering box for a unit from a early 80's toyota 4x4.  you get a tighter box and power steering too.  the toy box has a GM spline size too, so you could use a GM tilt collumn as well.  nice setup for sure.  I just dont know how hard all that american stuff will be to round up there in Turkey?!...

Greg S.

65 custom cab 460/C6
61 flareside 223/T5/toybox steering/Izuzu tank resting in pieces

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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:25:03 -0700
From: Dave Oneal <dave davesmonsterpit.com>
Subject: Re: Painting ??'s

An HVLP gun should run fine. I used a 2.5hp 3gallon pancake compressor to
do my truck, it would not keep up if you were to just hold down the trigger
but if you let go now and then it would. It was also the fast pump up kind
so that helped.
At 12:18 PM 12/13/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>FTEers,
>
>I asked this question on the pre61 side, but got no answer. My wife just
>bought me a 5 HP - 13 gal air compressor for my b'day. Has anyone made a HVLP
>paint gun that will run off of this small of a compressor?
>
>
>Glenn in TN  <----- we didn't vote for Gore - that should tell you something!
>57 F100 -- in process

Dave

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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 15:25:59 -0800


> A 2 pinion ?  Isn't the pinion the part that connects to the drive shaft ?
> So ... then how does this 2 pinion thing work ?

   A Haynes, Clymer, Chilton, or Ford service manual should have a 3D
exploded view of the Dana 60 rear axle assembly showing the differences
between a regular differential and the "2 pinion LS" and "2 piece case LS".
You may know the 2 pinion LS better as "Trac Lok Posi".

> And what exactly do you mean by "resembles and open differential by
appearance,
> but is noticeably different" ?  Does that mean just like it, only not ?

   Similar but not identical,.... The 2 pinion LS could be mistaken for an
open differential at first glance if you don't know what to look for.

Michael
69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 with 2 piece case LS
69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11 regular (awaiting 2 pinion LS upgrade)
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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Engine missing - 1978  400  (Update #3)
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2000 16:43:59 -0600


.
----- Original Message -----
From: Hogan, Tom (Portland) <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 7:44 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Engine missing - 1978 400 (Update #3)


>
> <snip>
> >
> > This evening the mechanic called me with the latest puzzle.
> > The leak down
> > test
> > does not show leaking through the exhaust valves as expected but
> > is leaking back into the valve cover area.  He says that this
> > indicates
> > that it is leaking by the valve guides (Rodney mentioned that
> > he had had
> > this problem.) BUT the mechanic says that when this happens
> > then the engine
> > should be smoking and it does not.
> >
>
> I think that if it is the valve guides/seals then usually the only smoking
> you will see is a puff at startup.  There might also be some smoking when
> decelerating when the engine is under high vacuum and causing it to suck
> some oil down the valve guides.
>
> If the guides have been leaking you might have a carbon buildup on the
> intake or exhaust valve large enough to block airflow into those
cylinders.
>
> I don't know if it's time to open the engine up yet but things seem to be
> pointing to pulling the heads and reworking them.
>
> Keep us informed.
>
> Tom H.
>


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From: "Daniel Beiers" <dbeiers rmpprestress.com>
Subject: Overdrive Tranny
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 17:21:31 -0700


Is there an overdrive transmission, auto or manual that I can use behind my
390 in my 67 pu.  I have looked into autos but have found nothing in the way
of an easy swap or an adapter.  My 4 spd just isn't cutting it on the
highway :)

Thanks in advance for your help and comments.

Dan



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:16:39 -0800


I used to call them pinions too because in certain types of gear
arrangements they are pinions but in this case they are called spider gears,
the pinion is the drive gear that connects to the ring gear as stated below.
In an auto tranny they would be called "planet" gears because they rotate
around the "Sun" gear but in this case they "crawl" around the side gear
like little spiders :-)

Perhaps they are loosely called pinions because they are mounted on "Pins"
:-)  Sorry to be so silly tonight but I have had a very bad week so far and
needed to just say something light.......I'll explain later :-(

Along with the "Locker" discussion, most of us loosely call anything that
connects the axles "Lockers" but as already pointed out there are True
lockers and Limited slips which have significant distinctions.  My only
experience with either was a factory "Traction Loc" in the rear of my 4x4
van and I can tell you that this van was pretty awesome even when it was 2wd
due to the "Locker" in the rear :-)

In my Bird and Aerostar I will eventually put some type of LS, probably a
True Trac but in my trucks I am leaning toward a true locker, probably a
Detroit but I might try the cheaper lockright just to get an impression of
how it will function in snow etc. for work purposes, plowing in particular
(got stuck the other night :-))  Perhaps a cheap locker for a cheap
vehicle.......don't ask if you don't already know :-)

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Replies within:
>
> > A 2 pinion ?  Isn't the pinion the part that connects to the drive shaft
?
> 2 pinion refers to the spider gears.  A Dana 2 pinion LS is called a Trac
> Loc, and a 4 pinion is called
> a Power Loc.  The 4 pinion (spider gears) are inherentely stronger and
work
> better than the 2 pinion Trac Loc.
>
> > So ... then how does this 2 pinion thing work ?
> It has 2 or 4 gears moving around the side gears.



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Choke, Rochester ?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:31:59 -0800


Could Mr. Ballanger or someone familiar with Rochesters give me a holler?  I
have a problem with the choke on this thing and would like a little inside
info on how the coil is supposed to work in this case since it only pushes
on one side and does NOT work in both directions.....am I supposed to have
it push the choke closed  when cold or open when hot?  BTW, this is not the
design that will win the "I love my truck" award :-(  I hate Holleys but the
electric choke on them is an excellent design IMNSHO :-)  At least you can
turn the cap without stripping the slot out on the first  try......:-
(divorced, not electric, should have just got the electric in the first
place)  In fact I think that's what I'll do then I can make it do what I
want, when I want, the way I want GRRRRRR!)

Holler at me off list since this is not exactly a legal question in this
particular case :-)  I would holler directly but since my computer has
crashed about 10 times in the last 3 weeks and now is a fried pile of junk
due to a storm and power outage that went out with a loud bang.......I don't
have anyone's addresses anymore :-(  When I feel stronger I will tell
you........."The rest of the story......"

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)


> That same coil that forces it open should force it closed.  The outside
end has to be in
> a slot in the end of the choke operating rod..


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:35:55 -0800


If it is syncros then you can alleviate the grind by short shifting at
exactly the correct speed for the gears to be matched.  This means like a
grandpa, not a hot rod but it gets you down the road :-)  You can also
double clutch if you want to hot rod it but that takes a lot of practice to
get right and you will grind a few pounds before you get it perfected.

Don't know why pushing to one side or the other makes any difference.  That
has little to do with the way the syncros work??

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> When I try to shift into third gear, I have to push (moderately hard) to
the
> far right of the gate, and then up, for it to go in.  Otherwise, it
grinds.



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Brake pedal "stuck"
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:39:56 -0800


Behind the power booster is a bell crank or cantilever with pivots in it.
This is the most likely place to find where it is sticking.  The bushings in
the pedal itself are nylon so need no lubrication normally.  I believe there
are 3 pins that need to be removed, wire brushed and lubed.

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> sticking and having to pull it back up with my foot. On my brake pedal
there
> are two pivot points with bushings. I had to remove them both(did the top
> one first and that didnt quite do it)  and clean them up and put
neverseize
> on them and now the problem is solved.



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:43:12 -0800


Friction modifier is designed to make it "slip" not grab.  It's used to
eliminate the chatter associated with sharp turns on dry pavement.  If it is
already not working this will only make it worse.  Personally I would rather
have the chatter and know it's working :-)

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

oil is oil.  What you add to a limited slip rear end is friction
modifier.  For topping off you can use regular gear oil.  Add some of
the friction modifier and see if that makes any difference.  You will


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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:34:31 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: Limited Slip Dana 60 Rear?


Gary wrote:

> In my Bird and Aerostar I will eventually put some type of LS, probably a
> True Trac but in my trucks I am leaning toward a true locker, probably a
> Detroit but I might try the cheaper lockright just to get an impression of
> how it will function in snow etc. for work purposes, plowing in particular
> (got stuck the other night :-))  Perhaps a cheap locker for a cheap
> vehicle.......don't ask if you don't already know :-)
>

LR's are OK, except for the one that goes in the 9" (if that is the
rear you are talking about). It does not replace side gears with their
own drivers, so if side gears aren't new (even if they are) it may slip
and not work correctly (I finally gave up and got detroit). All the
other LR's replace the side gears and work much better.

                                     OX

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Painting ??'s
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:00:07 -0600

I would think that ANY HVLP paint gun would work with that compressor. If fact any normal paint gun should work with it too, depending oh how often you spray compared to how often you pause to let the compressor catch up.

Spray guns really don't take all that much air to operate, since they usually run at 40 PSI or less.

Try the Eastwood Company, the sell paint guns, HVLP and regular style... otherwise a local auto parts store should be able to hook you up.

Good luck! Anymore questions, let them fly!


Garrett www.1966ford.com




 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Fifty7F100 cs.com
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 11:18 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Painting ??'s



 FTEers,

 I asked this question on the pre61 side, but got no answer. My wife just
 bought me a 5 HP - 13 gal air compressor for my b'day. Has anyone made a HVLP
 paint gun that will run off of this small of a compressor?


 Glenn in TN  <----- we didn't vote for Gore - that should tell you something!
 57 F100 -- in process



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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Brake pedal "stuck"
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:06:16 -0600

LOL, the mental image from that just made my day!  (hope nothing was damaged!)

Garrett www.1966ford.com



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: William King
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2000 8:13 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Brake pedal "stuck"



 Eric,
 I'm in digest mode, so perhaps this has already been suggested.
 I had to install a spring under my dash (to pull the brake pedal
 back up) on both my 68 F100 and 68 Torino. I used a carb-return
 spring in both cases.  Mind you, the brake pedal in neither goes
 all the way to the floor, so the spring just helps return the pedal
 to the fully-up  position.  I also found the brake linkage on my
 Torino was a bit stiff (even w/ the MC pulled out), so I had to pull
 it apart and lube it up.  Helped a lot.

 As a funny note, one day the spring in my truck broke when I applied
 the brake.  The spring shot out, hit me in the place you don't want
 to be hit (No. Not in the eye...), and ricocheted out the open window.
 *Doh*  Scared the bejeepers outta me at the time b/c I didn't know
 what hit me.  Funny now, but not so funny at the time. :-)

 Hope this helps.
 Ohio Bill
 1968 F100 360 2v 4 speed
 1968 Torino GT 429 4v 5 speed

 >I've got one more question about my '79 F-350.  It seems that my brake
 >pedal won't come back up off the floor.  Sometimes it will and sometimes
 >it won't.  The brakes seem to be ok but its hard to tell since I can't
 >drive it (being not inspected and all.)  I can put my foot under it and
 >pull it back up but that's not acceptable in the long run.  :-)




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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Painting ??'s
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 21:32:08 -0500


Has anyone made a HVLP
>   paint gun that will run off of this small of a compressor?
Glenn
======================================================
GLENN
if your only going to use a HVLP 1 or so times why not just go rent one with
the right compressor for it I Know i used to use them and the compressors
they came with only put out about 15lbs or so
if you need 40 lbs of pressure then you may as well use just a regular spray
gun then
gordon



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Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 20:00:00 -0700
From: Dave Oneal <dave davesmonsterpit.com>
Subject: Re: Painting ??'s

A good regulator and water separator is an absolute must. The compressor
doesnt matter as long as you have a good regulator,10-20lbs is all you need
for HVLP. 5hp is fine.
At 09:32 PM 12/13/2000 -0500, you wrote:

>Has anyone made a HVLP
> >   paint gun that will run off of this small of a compressor?
>Glenn
>======================================================
>GLENN
>if your only going to use a HVLP 1 or so times why not just go rent one with
>the right compressor for it I Know i used to use them and the compressors
>they came with only put out about 15lbs or so
>if you need 40 lbs of pressure then you may as well use just a regular spray
>gun then
>gordon

Dave

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.davesmonsterpit.com


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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2000 22:30:55 EST
Subject: Re: 4spd 3rd gear shift grinding

If it is the NP435 it sounds like you lost one of the nylon tips on your
shift fork. not a hard fix if it's the problem but you do have to pull the
top off the trans.



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Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:18:33 -0500
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: Knock Knock update #1

> >To make things even more fun, the knock has become even more sporadic.
> >I'll pull into the driveway with it clearly audible in the cab.
>
> I don't know if you've said which tranny you've got in the truck ....


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