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61-79-list Digest Mon, 04 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 358

In This Issue:
Re: 65 engine ID
Re: [351M woes]
73-79 Ford Truck Parts
Re: Chevy list
Re: Annual FTE Charity Drive
D 60 brakes
Rattling doors
Re: Chevy list
Re: What is it ?
Satsuma
Re: What is it ?
Re: What is it ?
Re: Chevy list
Re: 351M woes
Re: What is it ?
Another Al Gore Funny
Re: Another Al Gore Funny
list troubles
Re: Chevy list
Re: 351M woes
Re: Re-using wheel studs?
Re: blashphamey
Re: Re-using wheel studs?
Sorry, this is a test of my reverse DNS.....
Re: Re-using wheel studs?
Re: 79 400, how far gone????

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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: 65 engine ID
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 18:07:34 -0600


Intake manifold is exactly the same dimensions on everything, I have both
so..... :)

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Brett Habben
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:33 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 65 engine ID


Kourtney,
Have you gotten to the bottom of this mystery yet? Does anybody remember if
the 240 intake manifold casting is physically smaller than the 300 intake?
Brett
PS. Where is this truck sitting? If it's South Austin maybe I could run by
and take a look at it also.
>
>I am looking at a 1965 F100 right now, trying to determine what >size
>the engine is. I *want* a 300 cid inline six. It's clearly a six
>cylinder, but I can't really tell if it's the 240 or the 300. >The VIN is:
>F10AD872504
>Other info on the ID plate inside the door reads:
>129 WH F100 B81 C 09
>05000 129 4000 62
>If anyone has some casting numbers for the 240 or 300 cid ?>engines (for
>the 1965 model year, or around then), or can give me any >outstanding
>identifying descriptions (like "the carb always sits at such 'n >such a
>spot next to the engine"), or can accurately decipher the VIN, >it would
>Kourtney de Haas
>Austin, Texas






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Date:  4 Dec 00 16:21:31 PST
From: Ryan Sturz <68classic usa.net>
Subject: Re: [351M woes]


Rodney,

I had similar symptoms on my Buick before I rebuilt the carb.  The float had
gotten stuck, causing a rich condition.

Ryan
'77 F250

> I have a 77 f-150 4x4 stock engine and exhaust.
> The problem I'm having is when accelerating them engine
> seems bogged down....once I hit 50-55 MPH it takes off like a raped ape.
> I have changed the plugs, wires and cap/rotor. What symptoms does this sound
like?
>
> Carb or timing?
>
>
>
> Thanks
> Rodney
>


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From: "Charles T." <charlest hal-pc.org>
Subject: 73-79 Ford Truck Parts
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 20:20:41 -0800

Just remembered this place and thought I'd share it with yall. I have purchased doors, bumpers, grills,and trim form them in the past without problem.  Hint...it's not far from Pigeon Forge(F100 Supernats)!

ARP---Automotive Replacement Parts in Bristol, TN  423-989-3883
Website Link to 73-79 parts:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.3wave.com/arp/FORT1.HTM#119

Charles
79 F150 4x4 and 2x4


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From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars burgoyne.com>
Subject: Re: Chevy list
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:03:19 -0700


As my local Checker manager say's "There's a reason Chevy parts are so cheap
and easy to get,  HIGH DEMAND!"
>
> Would need a large "What do I do when my truck breaks down?" FAQ
section...
>
> > Bill R. writes:  >>is there a list as good as this one for chevy
> trucks??<<
> >
> > No.
> >
> >
> > Azie Magnusson
> > Ardmore, Al.
> >
> >
>
>
>


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:52:20 EST
Subject: Re: Annual FTE Charity Drive

Thank you very much Ken.  I mniss that guy more than any of you could ever
know.  In my time of need, he loaned me $1300 cash to help me out of a jam,
but never let me know I could have returned the favor.  He had been running
low on funds, and cut his medication back because he couldnt afford his
refill.  Money over on my end is tight, but I would have sold everything I
owned, to help him out if I could.  Never let pride step in the way like
that.  It cost my friend his life.  It was really hard to believe he was
gone.  I had his truck over my place (80 F100 with the impossible to believe
5 on 4 1/2 bolt pattern) so I could get it runnin and deliver to his wife in
LA.  Everytime I came home It would just pop in my head that Scooter was
there.  Lemme tell ya it wasnt easy.  Origianly I was supposed to drive it to
her the weekend of the services, but due to circumstances beyond my control,
I couldnt get it runnin in time, and had to drive down in my Mustang.  I
stayed with our wonderful Ford Filly, aka Lisa, who also join me at the
service.  Thanks for all the help Lisa, you and your family are great.  The
following week I was able to deliver the truck, having had to replace the
dizzy, coil, spark box, and wires.  Poor thing was really tore up.  It was
cool it worked llike that, because it meant an extra weekend for me to see
his wife and kids.  As soon as his boy (Zach) is old enough, Im gonna set him
upo with FTE.  Hes 5 yrs old and already knows FORD RULES.  Smart kid that
one, we were goin through his matchbox cars, and he could name everyone by
make model and year!  and were talkin LOTS of cars.  Ok Im sidetrackin
here....

Anyhow, Scooter is truely missed, but the impact he made was important in
many peoples lives.  If anyone has any questions, or just wanna know a lil
more about this guy, feel free to mail me off list.  I never get tired of
tellin stories about that guy.  he really made life interesting.  When we met
Ken and Peggy for lunch, he had Peggy laughin so hard she could hardly stop
long enough to eat a lil lunch.  Thats who Scooter was.  Ok Im ramblin
again...

Thanks for listening to my ramblings everyone  :)

Darrell & Tweety



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: D 60 brakes
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:05:12 -0600

Eric F. writes:  Snipped several times:  >>.  It seems I have to reuse that center section,
whatever its called. <<

It is the "hub", and is pretty costly so I would reuse it.

>>How do I separate this section from the old drums? <<

Either a good Press and press each stud out seperately or as you
describe it below.

>>It looks like I have to remove all of the wheel studs since they seem to
sandwich the center section to the inside of the brake drum.<<

Yes!! Good observation.

>>How do I remove the studs?  Can I just put a sacrificial lug nut on the
threads and pound it out with the BFH?<<

Yes you can, but if you do pound them out, I would not reuse them.

>>Can I reuse the studs?<<

See note above.

Whichever way you choose to remove the studs, be sure to support the
center section (hub) with something so you aren't putting pressure on
the drum without supporting the hub.  The hub is what you want to take
the pressure.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Rattling doors
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:09:44 -0600

Ryan writes:  >>The doors on my '77 F250 make an incredibly annoying rattling noise,<<

Most likely it is the striker plate and the door locking mechanism rattling.
Sure sign of warn hinges.  The latch mechanism that protrudes from the
door pillar is supposed to have a piece of teflon(or something similar) on
it to help prevent this rattle.  All of it isn't in the weatherstripping.  That
teflon piece is probably long gone.


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:22:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Chevy list


>> Bill R. writes:
>>is there a list as good as this one for chevy trucks??
>
>Azie writes
>
> No.
>
>

There might be, but the noise to signal ratio is probably
huge, as most of them have 700HP small blocks and they
can prove it by running their believed setup on Desktop
Dyno, and how their "truck" will go where a mountain goat
wont, and all those questions about how come them damn
Fords are passing them all the time, and how Kewl their
"daily driver" big-block Camaro's are, and let's not forget
to mention how quick their "trucks" are, you know, those
10 second 4WD's, That are getting passed by 14 second
Old Ford Trucks...with 300cid 6's...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


------------------------------

From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 19:22:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: What is it ?


At 08:46 PM 04:12:2000 GMT, wish wrote:

>Might I make a suggestion too ?  DOCUMENT which parts are from what, the guy
>I got the truck from had to scratch his brain a while to think of what years
>and then he got them all backwards, now I know what I put under there, but if
>I ever sell it I'll probably print off my web page so they can see what parts
>are from what years ...

Sage advice from one so young,

For *ALL* you guys building those old trucks, buy a binder, buy those
plastic page sleeve thingys, and keep your receipts in it, keep notes
from the building process in it.

It'll pay you back in spades 5 years from now, when you need to
replace some little oddball relay...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


------------------------------

From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Satsuma
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:25:38 -0600

Marty C. writes:  >>My name is Marty Copeland I live in Satsuma,Al. <<

OK Marty..  I'm an old man - lived in Alabama all my adult life and have no idea where Satsuma is, so tell me..
Ardmore is on the Tennessee State line and 2 miles East of I-65.  All 3500 or so of us.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


------------------------------

From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: What is it ?
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2000 21:55:09 -0800


>  For *ALL* you guys building those old trucks, buy a binder, buy those
> plastic page sleeve thingys, and keep your receipts in it, keep notes
> from the building process in it.
>
>  It'll pay you back in spades 5 years from now, when you need to
> replace some little oddball relay...
>
> Steve & the Rockette
~~~~~~~~~~~

A database using MS Works can be created from all those saved receipts. Part
numbers and waranty info are real handy when something fails in the future.
The time spent creating such a database for your vehicle could save you the
troubles of tracking down that hard to find part for a second time!


Michael
69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 LS
69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: What is it ?
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:30:43 -0500


sometimes it depends on what state you live in.
-----Original Message-----
From: Desanto, Phillip <pdesanto Cinergy.com>
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 11:46 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] What is it ?


>
>Hi all, I have a question for you all. I have a chance to get a later model
>4x4 rolling chassis to put under my  64. (instead of using the individual
>components I was GOING to use) If I mount my cab and bed to this frame,
what
>year is it? The same as the body, or the same as the chassis ? I already
>know the VIN is on the frame, but still want some input. I will eventually
>call the DMV, since they'll decide my fate ultimately, huh?  Thanx, Phil
>


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Chevy list
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:33:08 -0500


Ford trucks have been the best selling trucks for the last  25 yrs. or
so--so how could there be a better list than this .
-----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich <rsouther alldata.com>
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:02 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Chevy list


>
>Would need a large "What do I do when my truck breaks down?" FAQ section...
>
>> Bill R. writes:  >>is there a list as good as this one for chevy
>trucks??<<
>>
>> No.
>>
>>
>> Azie Magnusson
>> Ardmore, Al.
>>
>>
>
>


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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 351M woes
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:46:43 -0500


might be the timing ,but I would also check the vaccuum  modulator on the
back of the trans to see if it needs to be replaced.
-----Original Message-----
From: bull <rodney slowspeed.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 6:30 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 351M woes


>I have a 77 f-150 4x4 stock engine and exhaust.
>The problem I'm having is when accelerating them engine
>seems bogged down....once I hit 50-55 MPH it takes off like a raped ape.
>I have changed the plugs, wires and cap/rotor. What symptoms does this
sound like?
>
>Carb or timing?
>
>
>
>Thanks
>Rodney
>
>


------------------------------

From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: What is it ?
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 00:56:59 -0600


That's a good idea, I didn't think about doing that, I might as well start
with my F-250 since I'm doing a ground-up restoration on it(as soon as I can
get the 428 running again :))

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of canzus seanet.com
Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 9:22 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Cc: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: What is it ?


At 08:46 PM 04:12:2000 GMT, wish wrote:

>Might I make a suggestion too ?  DOCUMENT which parts are from what, the
guy
>I got the truck from had to scratch his brain a while to think of what
years
>and then he got them all backwards, now I know what I put under there, but
if
>I ever sell it I'll probably print off my web page so they can see what
parts
>are from what years ...

Sage advice from one so young,

For *ALL* you guys building those old trucks, buy a binder, buy those
plastic page sleeve thingys, and keep your receipts in it, keep notes
from the building process in it.

It'll pay you back in spades 5 years from now, when you need to
replace some little oddball relay...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....




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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 10:07:40 -0500
From: "JB MCIWorld" <jeffrey.bennett mciworld.com>
Subject: Another Al Gore Funny



This one is so good, I had to post it to my web page.
Probably the funniest one yet.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/eraser60/mayberry/mayberry.htm

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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Another Al Gore Funny
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 07:15:05 -0800


Funny or not, we've been warned by Ken about political postings and while
light hearted, we oughta just stay away from anything Gore or Bush on this
list...

-----Original Message-----
From: JB MCIWorld [mailto:jeffrey.bennett mciworld.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 7:08 AM
To: 61-79-List
Subject: [61-79-list] Another Al Gore Funny




This one is so good, I had to post it to my web page.
Probably the funniest one yet.
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/eraser60/mayberry/mayberry.htm

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From: "LaGrone, John" <John.LaGrone killeenisd.org>
Subject: list troubles
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 10:17:30 -0600

No, I haven't died...yet. But I am still having problems with my e-mail. I
am receiving digest only andc an't post. Boy does it hurt.

You may contact me direct at
john.lagrone killeenisd.org
if needed. I may or may not be able to reply.

--John LaGrone

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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:19:07 -0800
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: Chevy list


Not only the best selling truck...Also, the best selling vehicle...of
any kind...

Tim and Pam Allgire wrote:
>
> Ford trucks have been the best selling trucks for the last  25 yrs. or
> so--so how could there be a better list than this .
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Southerland, Rich <rsouther alldata.com>
> To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com' <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> Date: Monday, December 04, 2000 12:02 PM
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Chevy list
>
> >
> >Would need a large "What do I do when my truck breaks down?" FAQ section...
> >
> >> Bill R. writes:  >>is there a list as good as this one for chevy
> >trucks??<<
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >>
> >> Azie Magnusson
> >> Ardmore, Al.
> >>
> >>
> >
> >

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From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: 351M woes
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 12:15:45 -0500


> seems bogged down....once I hit 50-55 MPH it takes off
> like a raped ape. I have changed the plugs, wires and cap/rotor.
> What symptoms does this sound like?

Your fuel mixture or choke might be out of ajustment. Also,
I had a 302 in a thunderbird that exhibited those symptoms;
the hydraulic lifters were bad and not lifting to open the valves
as much as they should have been unless it was really rev'd up
and putting out a lot of oil pressure.


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 09:56:56 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re-using wheel studs?


Ok now which is it?  Can I reuse the studs or not?  Azie says no but Ox
says yes since there aren't any new ones that fit right?  If I find a way
to press out the studs then can I reuse them?  Does pounding them out with
a BFH do something to harm the structure of the metal?  Or is it just
safer to get new ones?

Ox, so you haven't found any new studs that fit correctly?  When you say
they didn't fit which part didn't fit?  The base of the stud to the hub,
the based of the stub to the drum, or the lugnuts wouldn't fit?  Please
explain.  What brand of drums were you using or was this on a used drum?

I'm just trying to deal with all the potential gremlins before they popup
if you know what I mean.  It looks like I'll be attempting this on
Saturday so if you see any frustrated posts you'll know I forgot to ask
something.  :-)

--- "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net> wrote:
> Whichever way you choose to remove the studs, be sure to support the
> center section (hub) with something so you aren't putting pressure on
> the drum without supporting the hub.  The hub is what you want to take
> the pressure.

Good tip Azie.  Thanks for the help.  Now all I need are my new bearings
and I can start this process.

Later,
Eric Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast" [Project stalled :-(  ]
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"

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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 08:29:34 -0700
From: "Richard Currit" <RCURRI state.wy.us>
Subject: Re: blashphamey

<snip>
>Do you know where the heater motor is one one of those
>God-forsaken pieces of...(I caught myself just in the nick of time
>there).  I would NEVER buy another Ch*vY (unless the doctor told me I
>had to slow down).

Unfortunately, yes I do know where that $$#%$^%*&&^ heater motor is!!!
This reminds me of a time back when I was in college.  I had a buddy
with an old Ch*vy II that I was always working on for him.  He loved
Chevies for some reason.  Never dawned on him that I was always running
to get parts for him with my beat up old Dodge (hey, even if you don't
like Dodges, that old Slant Six was one heck of a motor).  Anyway, his
dad stopped by in his F-250 and was just watching for a while.  Finally
he says "you know, I'm going to get me one of those chevies after I
retire.  It'll give me something to do".  I about died laughing.

High Plains Richard
'72 F-100, 300 I6



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Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2000 13:23:20 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: Re-using wheel studs?



Eric Finn wrote:
>
> Ok now which is it?  Can I reuse the studs or not?

Yes, I've pounded them out with a BFH only about 50 times in the past 7
years and never bought new studs, never had a problem. It also helps to
put them back in the same hole they came out, cause sometimes a stud may
be snug in one hole, but loose in it's neighbors hole :-)

Azie says no but Ox
> says yes since there aren't any new ones that fit right?  If I find a way
> to press out the studs then can I reuse them?  Does pounding them out with
> a BFH do something to harm the structure of the metal?

Not that I can tell. I reused pounded out studs on my big truck with
44's and if it was going to be a problem, I'd guess it would show up
there.

> Or is it just safer to get new ones?

It's usually safer, but.........

> Ox, so you haven't found any new studs that fit correctly?  When you say
> they didn't fit which part didn't fit?  The base of the stud to the hub,
> the based of the stub to the drum, or the lugnuts wouldn't fit?  Please
> explain.  What brand of drums were you using or was this on a used drum?

The splines on stud that fits into hub were just a hair too small and
would not seat right with even the stud manufacturers recommended
studs.  Brake drums were all stock, but really have nothing to do with
it since studs seat in hub.

                               OX

--
78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44
boggers, 9" lift (27 54.5678498576476596875869 (street), 17 56 (4"
mud), never 0 (17" mud)).
79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5
SX's, 4"lift (It's so fast, I tore the axles right out of it).
79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift (19.3 40, pulling boat,
19.3 40, not puling boat)
86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Sorry, this is a test of my reverse DNS.....
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 13:54:14 -0800

Just checking to see if I can send to the list yet.

Happily Semi-Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)


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Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 11:41:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re-using wheel studs?


Ox,

Thanks for the clarification.  I too have re-used studs but that was on a
9" rear under an F-150 that we didn't keep long enough to test the
strength of the studs.  It'll help that I've got a spare hub/drum combo
that the PO gave me with a full set of 8 studs in case I need a few
spares.  :-)

Now why is it that I get the response before my original post?   #$ #$
yahoo email.

Later,
Eric Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project stalled)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"

--- James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com> wrote:
> Eric Finn wrote:
> >
> > Ok now which is it?  Can I reuse the studs or not?
>
> Yes, I've pounded them out with a BFH only about 50 times in the past 7
> years and never bought new studs, never had a problem. It also helps to
> put them back in the same hole they came out, cause sometimes a stud may
> be snug in one hole, but loose in it's neighbors hole :-)


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From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch sybase.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2000 19:28:53 -0700
Subject: Re: 79 400, how far gone????


>From: GMontgo930 aol.com
>
>I've got a 79 400 (from a Bronco) that while
>driving, bent a pushrod and ejected a lifter
>from it's bore (#2 Intake). I did have to nurse
>it a few miles to get to civilization (the local
>parts store) for a replacement pushrod while
>the pressure read 0 on the gauge.
>
>It then got me another 250 miles home, though
>the top end was  clattering like crazy and the
>oil pressure read 0 the whole way.
>
>My question is, just how far do yall think things
>went during it's torture test? Im figuring Cam,
>Main & Rod Bearings at least.

Yo George:

As you suspect, the bearings you mention are likely toasted.  I would also be
concerned about the journals that ride in those bearings (i.e., crankshaft and
camshaft).  I would expect that w/ little or no oil pressure, not only would the
cam bearing journals be suspect, but the lobes might be worn out as well.  Given
the cost of having the cam checked for excessive wear on journals and lobes, I
think you'd be better off scrapping the cam and starting over.

>and how about rockers?

I have the same concerns.  I'd examine all the wear surfaces very closely for
any signs of excess wear or galling.

>What I'd really like to do is salvage the heads
>for my current 400 as they were fairly fresh (head
>job about 20k ago). But I was thinking about having
>them milled a bit to up the CR from <8.0 to about
>9.??:1 or so. That and another good cam should
>really wake up what Ive got now.

Heads should be ok.  Just to be safe, you could check the valve guides for
excessive play.

>Yea, Ive got the HR 400 article.

If you have the HotRod article, ignore what they say about milling the block and
heads.  Their numbers don't add up.

You can use simple volume-of-cylinder calculations to determine the compression
increase from milling the block/heads.  Using the stock spec numbers for ....


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