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61-79-list Digest Fri, 01 Dec 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 355

In This Issue:
'65 Engine ID, Part 2
Re: Finally Finished II
Re: '65 Engine ID, Part 2
Re: '65 Engine Identification
Re: '65 Engine Identification
Re: Question on 70 F250 rear wheel bearing lock nuts
Re: Websites to look for Ford parts?
Re: Finally Finished II
power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
T-case for 292 w/ three speed
Re: power steering leak
Re: power steering leak
Re: '65 Engine Identification
Re: '65 Engine Identification
Re: '65 Engine ID, Part 2
Re: power steering leak
VIN plates and window stickers
Re: power steering leak
FW: Re: 1973 F100 Wiring
Re: FW: Re: 1973 F100 Wiring
79 400, how far gone????
New 67 F250 Trip
Re: T-case for 292 w/ three speed
79 Bronco tilt steering
Re: 79 Bronco tilt steering
Re: 79 Bronco tilt steering

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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:23:57 -0600 (CST)
From: Kourtney Ray de Haas <kourt uts.cc.utexas.edu>
Subject: '65 Engine ID, Part 2


Hmmm.  According to the following URL:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.redrival.com/rick1956/codepage.htm

The engine type is denoted by the 5th digit in the serial number (for
years 65 and 66 only).  Notice that there is no "A" or "Y" code for
engines of this year.

On another note, I found the following webpage which might be helpful
(shows how to ID engines):

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/tbeeee/page/id-tag.jpg

The next time I see the truck I might use this information, if there's
still an ID plate on the engine.

Kourtney de Haas
Austin, Texas

:From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
:Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:57:57 EST
:Subject: Re: '65 Engine Identification
:
:Actually on our old Ford trucks, the 4th digit is the engine code.  which is
:an A, which unless Im mistaken, is a 240.   I believe the 300 is a Y code,
:but again, I could be mistaken.  The only engine code I can ever say for
:certain, is a J code, cuz then it means your dealin with the rare Ford truck
:with a factory 460.  Lemme know what your book lists for an A code, Im
:curious.
:
:Darrell & Tweety


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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: Finally Finished II
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 10:35:07 -0800 (PST)


wish wrote:
> heh, as Tony pointed out I forgot to give a review of how the thing
drove
> after all that work ... Its so normal I forgot to comment I think :)

I have a few questions.

1) How is the steering effort?  Is it a lot less?  Does it have that
isolated feel to the steering, you know, like an old Cadillac?

2) Is the steering ratio quicker?

3) Is the pitman arm centered when the wheels are pointed straight ahead?

Can't wait to get mine done too, but still gathering parts. :(


Mark in Southwest Washington
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html
--
'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4x4
in digest mode


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:48:02 EST
Subject: Re: '65 Engine ID, Part 2

In a message dated 12/1/2000 10:23:16 AM Pacific Standard Time,
kourt uts.cc.utexas.edu writes:


> The engine type is denoted by the 5th digit in the serial number (for
> years 65 and 66 only).

Ahh, ok, learn sumthin new everyday.  There are so many simalarities between
the 65 all the way up to 79, that sometimes an asumption will just get a case
of foot in mouth.  I stand corrected, but this does open up a mystery.  This
point is only trivial though, as it does have a 6 cyl, which is what you
want.  The only way I know of to tell a 240 from a 300 is to measure the
stroke.  A 300 has a 3.98 stroke (could be 3.96, One is for the 300, one is
for the 410/428, I always confuse the two)  Anyhow a 240 will have a shorter
stroke.  Dont fret if it is a 240 though, It is easily converted to a 300,
and if your into hot rodding 6 cyls, give me and Tony Marino a shout.  We've
built some stump pullin 300's!!

Darrell & Tweety



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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:38:15 -0500
From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Re: '65 Engine Identification


Darrell <JUMPINFORD aol.com> said:

>In a message dated 12/1/2000 8:21:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
>Kourtney de Haas  <kourt uts.cc.utexas.edu> writes:
>
>> Sources on the internet say that the fifth digit in this VIN (D) denotes a
>> 352 cid V8, but this truck clearly does not have that engine, and has
>> never had an engine replacement (this inline six currently in the truck is
>> original).

>Actually on our old Ford trucks, the 4th digit is the engine code.  which is
>an A, which unless Im mistaken, is a 240.   I believe the 300 is a Y code,
>but again, I could be mistaken.  The only engine code I can ever say for
>certain, is a J code, cuz then it means your dealin with the rare Ford truck
>with a factory 460.  Lemme know what your book lists for an A code, Im
>curious.
>
>Darrell & Tweety


Yes, my 1966 Econo/CW manual lists A as the code for a 240 engine. Good call!

Kourtney, the 240 and 300s are hard to tell apart because they very
similar. If you are sure it is the original engine, I think the 240 was
introduced in '65 and the 300 didn't come along until a few years later.
The number should be cast into the block on the right side of the engine at
the bottom, near the ridge for the oil pan. To be extra sure, you could
check the stroke by pulling a spark plug and inserting a dowel to check the
distance at BDC. The stroke for a 240 is 3.18".

If the engine runs fine, I would consider running it and building up a 300
on the side to swap in later. As you know, the 300s are common and
long-lasting. I am swapping a 300 for my dead 240 in my van, and it is a
bolt-in with the expection of some minor things like oil pan, fan spacing,
etc.

-don

Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA
FCA Keystone Chapter Internet Director
61 Falcon Futura, 66 Falcon Club Wagon and classic scooters



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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 13:15:10 -0600
From: John Strauss <jstrauss inetport.com>
Subject: Re: '65 Engine Identification


>Greetings to all,
>
>I am looking at a 1965 F100 right now, trying to determine what size
>the engine is.  I *want* a 300 cid inline six.  It's clearly a six
>cylinder, but I can't really tell if it's the 240 or the 300.  The VIN is:
>
>F10AD872504
>
According to the "Ford Pickup Red Book" this VIN is for a '66 truck with a
240CID six-cylinder.
  _
_| ~~.  John Strauss
\, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
  \(    Texas Fight!


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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 11:16:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Question on 70 F250 rear wheel bearing lock nuts


Well since I got behind I apparently tried to post this shortly after the
server switch started.  Just my luck.  So lets see how this works now that
its completed.  See more below...

I've now tried to post this at least three times since Tuesday.  Lets see
if yahoo has the new address yet...

--- Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com> wrote:
> >Hey to all on the list, I recently purchased the truck and like
> >tinkering with it. I am trying to replace a leaking grease seal on a
> >rear drum brake and notice the locknut/adjusting nut, to remove the
> >bearings, is in housed inside the wheel. My question is what size
> >nut is it and is it hex or rounded hex. I know I will have to buy
> >the socket but Id like to get the right one.....the first time. Any
> >help would be greatly appreciated.....Thanks
>
> Mr. Finn should be able to explain all this in detail.  Even has a
> tool part number for you :-)

Have I been that annoying lately?  :-)  Geeze maybe I should cut back on
my posts or at least research them better before opening my mouth and
inserting my foot...  <VBG>

> Mr. Finn, your class is ready ;-)

Sorry guys I've been a bit behind on my email lately...  I was helping a
friend move on Sat. and then watching my Iggles beat the Redskins on
Sunday so I didn't have time to work on my trucks.  :-(

Well onto the question.  I will say that I can possibly help.  I don't
know if the rear axle in your '70 F-250 is the same as what's in my '79
F-350 however if it is then this is what I can tell you (quoted from an
earlier post.)  There were apparently ~19 different versions of the Dana
60 in various Ford products.

It appears that a standard socket will not work.  You'll need a special
tool that's made just for this purpose.   Its a rounded corner 2 9/16"
socket.  Also note that its a 3/4" drive.  I'm not sure that this socket
can be used on all D60 rears however.  I thought I heard a while back that
some of the earlier models used a 2 3/8"  nut.  I could be wrong however.
I would pull one of the outer nuts first to check it first before buying
the tool though.  If you're interested the tool I bought was an OTC (part
# 1928) and I got it at Napa for $17.

BTW my brake parts, bearings and seals are currently on order and I hope
to get this process done and documented in a couple of weeks at the most.

HTH

Eric Finn (hoping it doesn't snow in PA until one of these is running...)
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"

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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Websites to look for Ford parts?
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:21:16 -0800


> What websites can I use to look up Ford parts? I would like to search for
> some small bits before I go searching for them locally (and get blank
> stares). I know I've seen some sites mentioned, but I didn't write them
> down.
>
> Thanks,
> don
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Here are a few good links,...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fomoco.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.dennis-carpenter.com/

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/links.htm

Michael
69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 LS
69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~



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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:43:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Finally Finished II


>I have a few questions.
>
Great ...


>1) How is the steering effort?  Is it a lot less?  Does it have that
>isolated feel to the steering, you know, like an old Cadillac?
>

No, nothing like an old Cadillac (I drive a 57 Olds fairly regular like so I
know what you mean :)  Its actually got GOOD feel to it, not too heavy or too
light.  Its a bit heavier in 4wd, I would guess because of the extra rotating
masses and such, but still not hard at all.  Now that the system has bled itself
too its much more consistent with the amount of feel I'm getting.  I've been
tryin so hard to forget the old system, but I think its more assist than the
old system, but not too much more to make it overly vague.


>2) Is the steering ratio quicker?
>

YES!  I don't have to limber up my arms before trying to park this thing anymore!
I don't know how much faster, but probably half as annoying as it was going
from lock to lock ...

>3) Is the pitman arm centered when the wheels are pointed straight ahead?


Amazingly it did all line up once I used the right tie rods and everything ...
I haven't taken it in for alignment yet, just eyeballed the toe, but with the
pitman arm straight ahead (eyeballed) the truck goes straight, and there's no
huge difference between right and left turning circle, there may be a tiny bit,
but I think there's a touch built in from the factory on most systems.

>Can't wait to get mine done too, but still gathering parts. :(
>

You'll love it.  We got about 2+" last night of that wet white stuff and I had
NO problems driving around and wasn't getting pulled all over the place like
the old system did, it was great.

Almost too easy ... anyone got an OD 5spd swap setup yet ? ;)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:33:42 -0700

(I'll try posting this again)

Is it ok to use teflon tape on the threads of power steering fittings?
(I've got a leaky fitting on the pump)

TIA

-Randy
'79 F250 Supercab, 460



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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:49:03 -0800

Can't think of any reason why you shouldn't.

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
To: "FTE list 61-79" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] power steering leak


>
> Is it ok to use teflon tape on the threads of power steering fittings?
> (I've got a leaky fitting on the pump)




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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 12:49:32 -0800


Not sure if the earlier ones are the same but on  mine there is an o-ring
that is supposed to seal the fluid no the threads.  The threads just hold
the hose to the pump, the oil ring does the sealin' job

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Beyer [mailto:bbeyer pacifier.com]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:49 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: power steering leak


Can't think of any reason why you shouldn't.

/// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\

----- Original Message -----
From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
To: "FTE list 61-79" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] power steering leak


>
> Is it ok to use teflon tape on the threads of power steering fittings?
> (I've got a leaky fitting on the pump)




------------------------------

From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:22:13 GMT
Subject: Re: power steering leak


>
>Not sure if the earlier ones are the same but on  mine there is an o-ring
>that is supposed to seal the fluid no the threads.  The threads just hold
>the hose to the pump, the oil ring does the sealin' job
>

Mine were flare fittings, so no o-rings involved ... the box came with some
fittings that had o-rings, but that was just to keep it from leaking during
shipping, when you pulled the plugs the o-rings came with the plugs.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:28:31 -0800


No, my box is a later 80's style.  The o-ring is on the high pressure hose
and it stays there.  you push the hose into the box and then tighten the nut
to hold the hose in, the threads to nothing but hold the hose to the box,
the o-ring is what keeps the fluid from escaping.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: wish [mailto:wish ford-trucks.net]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:22 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: power steering leak



>
>Not sure if the earlier ones are the same but on  mine there is an o-ring
>that is supposed to seal the fluid no the threads.  The threads just hold
>the hose to the pump, the oil ring does the sealin' job
>

Mine were flare fittings, so no o-rings involved ... the box came with some
fittings that had o-rings, but that was just to keep it from leaking during
shipping, when you pulled the plugs the o-rings came with the plugs.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 13:37:38 -0800


Have you cranked down on the fitting?  If not, don't.  If you have, then
likely the nut and/or fitting in the pump is damaged.  The hose (pipe) will
move even when the nut is tightened properly.  Some think it must be loose,
so they tighten further...

It's so common a proplem that replacement hoses with that type connections
carry a warning label that says something to the effect of: "Don't torque
the crap out of this nut as the pipe will still move a bit even when
tightened properly"

I'd go ahead and try a little teflon tape, but it may not help.

-----Original Message-----
From: Nichols, Josh [mailto:Josh.Nichols svseeds.com]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 1:29 PM
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: power steering leak



No, my box is a later 80's style.  The o-ring is on the high pressure hose
and it stays there.  you push the hose into the box and then tighten the nut
to hold the hose in, the threads to nothing but hold the hose to the box,
the o-ring is what keeps the fluid from escaping.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: wish [mailto:wish ford-trucks.net]
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:22 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: power steering leak



>
>Not sure if the earlier ones are the same but on  mine there is an o-ring
>that is supposed to seal the fluid no the threads.  The threads just hold
>the hose to the pump, the oil ring does the sealin' job
>

Mine were flare fittings, so no o-rings involved ... the box came with some
fittings that had o-rings, but that was just to keep it from leaking during
shipping, when you pulled the plugs the o-rings came with the plugs.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: sandrat ford-trucks.net
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:40:11 GMT
Subject: T-case for 292 w/ three speed


I have a 64 1-ton, w/ a 292 and a floor shift three speed.  I'm pretty sure the
body is beyond repair, but I'd like to take the engine and tranny and put them
into a 4wd.  I'd need a t-case, and I was wondering what ones would work with
the tranny.
Thanks, Robert



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http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 15:14:28 -0700


My system uses flare fittings, all of which appear to be tight- the hose
doesn't move etc...

On my system, the high pressure line fitting (flare) threads into a much
larger fitting which is threaded into the pump.  It is around this larger
fitting that the leak is found.  I guess I'll try the teflon tape around the
large fitting, since there seems to be nothing to lose by trying?

-----Original Message-----
From: Southerland, Rich

Have you cranked down on the fitting?  If not, don't.  If you have, then
likely the nut and/or fitting in the pump is damaged.  The hose (pipe) will
move even when the nut is tightened properly.  Some think it must be loose,
so they tighten further...

-----Original Message-----
From: Nichols, Josh

No, my box is a later 80's style.  The o-ring is on the high pressure hose
and it stays there.  you push the hose into the box and then tighten the nut
to hold the hose in, the threads to nothing but hold the hose to the box,
the o-ring is what keeps the fluid from escaping.

Josh

-----Original Message-----

Mine were flare fittings, so no o-rings involved ... the box came with some
fittings that had o-rings, but that was just to keep it from leaking during
shipping, when you pulled the plugs the o-rings came with the plugs.

Just my $.02
wish


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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 17:39:51 -0800
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak




Randy Cannon wrote:

> My system uses flare fittings, all of which appear to be tight- the hose
> doesn't move etc...
>
> On my system, the high pressure line fitting (flare) threads into a much
> larger fitting which is threaded into the pump.  It is around this larger
> fitting that the leak is found.  I guess I'll try the teflon tape around the
> large fitting, since there seems to be nothing to lose by trying?
>

<snip>
NAPA has a thread sealer in a tube that is better for hydrualic systems which is
basically what a PS unit is. *They* say it's much better than tape. Suposedly if
tape gets inside the system, it'll cause damage but I've never had a prob.

Greg


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From: BRussAZ aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:02:19 EST
Subject: Re: '65 Engine Identification


In a message dated 12/1/00 8:21:21 AM Pacific Standard Time,
kourt uts.cc.utexas.edu writes:

<< Greetings to all,

I am looking at a 1965 F100 right now, trying to determine what size
the engine is.  I *want* a 300 cid inline six.  It's clearly a six
cylinder, but I can't really tell if it's the 240 or the 300.  The VIN is:

F10AD872504

Other info on the ID plate inside the door reads:

129 WH F100 B81 C 09

05000 129 4000 62

I think I know what most of that stuff means already.

Sources on the internet say that the fifth digit in this VIN (D) denotes a
352 cid V8, but this truck clearly does not have that engine, and has
never had an engine replacement (this inline six currently in the truck is
original).

If anyone has some casting numbers for the 240 or 300 cid engines (for
the 1965 model year, or around then), or can give me any outstanding
identifying descriptions (like "the carb always sits at such 'n such a
spot next to the engine"), or can accurately decipher the VIN, it would
certainly help.  I'm crazy about the 300 cid engine and want to know if
this is the genuine article (my last 300 cid was in a '90 F150 and was
covered with modern junk, and so I can't really recognize its earlier
relative in the '65 F100).

Thanks in advance, I appreciate any help.

Kourtney de Haas
Austin, Texas >>

Kourtney,
I have a 65 F100 with VIN F10JD-------.  I was told the J is code in 65 for
the 240 and indeed I do have the 240.  I have a book (LMC Truck Catelog) that
states an "A" is the 240 code.  You can measure the stroke if you have a
quarter inch dowel about 8 inches long by pullin a plug and checking piston
movement.  3.96 for 300 and 3.18 for 240.
hope this helps

Bill

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From: BRussAZ aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:14:00 EST
Subject: Re: '65 Engine Identification


In a message dated 12/1/00 11:23:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,
jstrauss inetport.com writes:

<< Greetings to all,
>
>I am looking at a 1965 F100 right now, trying to determine what size
>the engine is.  I *want* a 300 cid inline six.  It's clearly a six
>cylinder, but I can't really tell if it's the 240 or the 300.  The VIN is:
>
>F10AD872504
>
According to the "Ford Pickup Red Book" this VIN is for a '66 truck with a
240CID six-cylinder.
   _
 _| ~~.  John Strauss
 \, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
   \(    Texas Fight!
 >>

dang,
this is getting humorous...cant believe all the discrepancies on this simple
question.  My 65 with F10JD  says its a 64 with a 223...hehe.  Well, I know
its a 65 but could it have been a real early 65 with the continued 223 from
64??

Bill


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From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:29:46 EST
Subject: Re: '65 Engine ID, Part 2


In a message dated 12/1/2000 1:23:14 PM EST, kourt uts.cc.utexas.edu writes:

<< http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.redrival.com/rick1956/codepage.htm >>

    This site is way too cool , thanks . I've got a question ? I've heard in
the past that one could get a replacement vin # plate with what ever info you
want . Anybody know where this can be found ? Last owner of my 64 f-100
decided to paint the door jams and the vin # plate suffered the same fate .
Also is it possible to get an orig. window sticker stating options and costs
?Thanks  for any help.


Steve       64  F-100       352 ci

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From: "Stevel" <canzus seanet.com>
Subject: Re: power steering leak
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 17:04:59 -0800



----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Cannon <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 2:14 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: power steering leak


>
> My system uses flare fittings, all of which appear to be tight- the hose
> doesn't move etc...
>
> On my system, the high pressure line fitting (flare) threads into a much
> larger fitting which is threaded into the pump.  It is around this larger
> fitting that the leak is found.  I guess I'll try the teflon tape around
the
> large fitting, since there seems to be nothing to lose by trying?

Thats the fitting that helps hold the resivoir to the pump, it should have
an O-ring, It may not have a hydraulic O-ring installed in there, which is
a guaranteed to leak...

Stevel




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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:25:59 EST
Subject: VIN plates and window stickers

I know if you call Ford at 1800 392 FORD they can print ya up an original
build sheet for your vehicle.  Its Free too!!!  I just ordered them for my
truck and my Mustang.  When they get here I'll be sharing all the useful info
(useless?) that I get.

Darrell & Tweety



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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 20:50:07 EST
Subject: Re: power steering leak


In a message dated 12/1/2000 12:34:56 PM Pacific Standard Time,
rcannon ussynthetic.com writes:

<< s it ok to use teflon tape on the threads of power steering fittings?
(I've got a leaky fitting on the pump)
 >>
The seal is made at the flare not the threads.  The tape should not make any
difference if you put it on the threads.  However, I have seen these fittings
cobbed up with enough tape that they do quit leaking, but not a good idea.
There is also a risk of getting the tape into the system where it can foul
things up.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "craig sharp" <csharp29 home.com>
Subject: FW: Re: 1973 F100 Wiring
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:25:16 -0500




-----Original Message-----
From: craig sharp [mailto:csharp29 home.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 9:39 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: RE: [61-79-list] Re: 1973 F100 Wiring

No... as a matter of fact, I have since confirmed, thanks to you guys and
sleeping on it, that the back up lights go to the neutral safety switch. The
Chilton's that I have doesn't say that.

I'm down to thinking that the turn signal switch is bad... and maybe the
neutral safety switch. I have to test them next.

This support group is great! You need it when you work on old Fords, eh?

Thanks to all.

Craig

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of JUMPINFORD aol.com
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2000 11:45 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 1973 F100 Wiring


In a message dated 11/27/2000 7:42:49 PM Pacific Standard Time,
csharp29 home.com writes:


>

Are youy sure?  My 73 and my 74 have them on the steering column, below the
dash.

Darrell & Tweety


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From: "Stevel" <canzus seanet.com>
Subject: Re: FW: Re: 1973 F100 Wiring
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 18:42:38 -0800



----- Original Message -----
From: craig sharp <csharp29 home.com>
To: Ford Trucks List Server <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, 01 December, 2000 6:25 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] FW: Re: 1973 F100 Wiring


> This support group is great! You need it when you work on old Fords, eh?

I don't consider it work,  more like tinkering,  or playing,  work is
what I do to earn money,  so I can play with my trucks...

> Thanks to all.

You're welcome...

Stevel





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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 21:57:41 EST
Subject: 79 400, how far gone????

Let me set up the problem, then ask the question.....

I've got a 79 400 (from a Bronco) that while driving, bent a pushrod and
ejected a lifter from it's bore (#2 Intake). I did have to nurse it a few
miles to get to civilization (the local parts store) for a replacement
pushrod while the pressure read 0 on the gauge. I was able to get the
original lifter back into it's bore and installed the replacement rod. It
then got me another 250 miles home, though the top end was  clattering like
crazy and the oil pressure read 0 the whole way.

I'd like to rebuild this motor and reinstall it (or parts of it) back into my
Bronco (Ive currently got another 400 in it's place). My question is, just
how far do yall think things went during it's torture test? Im figuring Cam,
Main & Rod Bearings at least. You think the cam might of survived (it was an
aftermarket, not a stocker) and how about rockers? I know I cant expect
specific details, but I'm just trying to get a general idea of what to expect.

What I'd really like to do is salvage the heads for my current 400 as they
were fairly fresh (head job about 20k ago). But I was thinking about having
them milled a bit to up the CR from <8.0 to about 9.??:1 or so. That and
another good cam should really wake up what Ive got now. Yea, Ive got the HR
400 article.

Thanks in advance.

George in Fl.



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From: "bull" <rodney slowspeed.com>
Subject: New 67 F250 Trip
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 19:48:58 -0800

I'm planning on picking up my inheritence in bend oregon. A 67 F-250 2 wheel drive
pickup. It has the original 352 and manual floor shift. I will be driving it from bend oregon
to seattle washington (about 340 miles). Is there anything I should check on before making the long haul. I understand to check fluids and brakes and such. I just need to know if I need to check anything else.
I will be making the trip on sunday.



Thanks,
Rodney
67 F-250
now the 3rd owner


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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: T-case for 292 w/ three speed
Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 22:08:27 -0800


Go with a 4 speed and a 205.  They are pretty inexpensive and easy to come
by.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke
"As fast as necessary, as slow as possible"



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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: 79 Bronco tilt steering
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 01:15:07 -0500


If anyone's interested in purchasing a 79 Bronco tilt steering column,
please email me off the list.

-bob-
79 Bronco 460 44's T18
79 Bronco 400 40's C6



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From: "Charles T." <charlest hal-pc.org>
Subject: Re: 79 Bronco tilt steering
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 09:06:30 -0800


Yes, will it fit a 79 F150? How much?
Charles Tyer


>
> If anyone's interested in purchasing a 79 Bronco tilt steering column,
> please email me off the list.
>
>  -bob-
> 79 Bronco 460 44's T18
> 79 Bronco 400 40's C6
>
>
>
>


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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2000 20:09:09 EST
Subject: Re: 79 Bronco tilt steering

Charles

I'd assume it would work fine as a 79 Bronco has allot in common with the
same years F series. But - since Ive never persnally swaped one in, I will ....


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