 |
|
|
|
|
|
Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:55:00 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 14:55:00 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar  ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list digest users <listar ford-trucks.com>
Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #333 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Mon, 13 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 333 In This Issue: Re: emissions D 60 Re: supercab Re: supercab Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Mail Order Re: Mail Order Re: Mail Order OEM MIRRORS Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Re: Brake HELP! Water In The Oil Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Re: D 60 Re: Water In The Oil Re: D60 Re: Water In The Oil Re: Grant steering wheel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: Re: emissions Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 12:02:47 -0700 Thanks for the links. Actually, I broke down today and paid dealer's price for the AIR tube I need (part is obsolete, but dealer located one). I tried partsvoice.com earlier, and got results, but still dealer's prices. I just tried the GreenSales link for the fun of it, but no luck. Cool site, though. -----Original Message----- Yo Randy: If you have the Ford part number, you can search for it on PartsVoice (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.partsvoice.com). If it's been obsoleted for a while, you could also try Green Sales Co. (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.GreenSalesCompany.com). Green Sales specializes in obsolete Ford parts. Good luck. Dave R (M-block devotee) ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: D 60 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:05:34 -0600 Don G. writes: >>That is one of the things I like about the early D 60s. all I have to do is remove the wheel and the drum comes off without touching the hub. :) Down side is that it is only 2" wide<< Are you saying that the hub on the early D 60's comes off like a 9" FOMOCO rear.. Do the lug nuts hold them on also?? I'm not familiar with these, so how early are they?? Earliest D 60's I've been around is in the mid 70's I suppose.. Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: supercab Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:17:29 -0500 > Cool cool... I've seen a few not bad deals... Hey BTW just outta curiosity, > did they make extended cabs on the F series in the 70s? I've never seen > one... Yeop ... I have a 1976 F250 Supercab with bench-style rear seat in my yard here. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 13:27:10 -0800 From: "John MacNamara" <jmacnamara zhone.com>
Subject: Re: supercab I have a 78 F250 4X4 John Serian wrote: > > Cool cool... I've seen a few not bad deals... Hey BTW just outta > curiosity, > > did they make extended cabs on the F series in the 70s? I've never seen > > one... > > Yeop ... I have a 1976 F250 Supercab with bench-style rear > seat in my yard here. > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:00:39 -0800 There are semi floating Dana 60s as well as full floaters. This one sounds like a semi floater. /// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 1:05 PM Subject: [61-79-list] D 60 > > Don G. writes: >>That is one of the things I like about the early D 60s. all I have > to do is remove the wheel and the drum comes off without touching the > hub. :) Down side is that it is only 2" wide<< > > Are you saying that the hub on the early D 60's comes off like a 9" FOMOCO rear.. > Do the lug nuts hold them on also?? I'm not familiar with these, so how early are they?? > Earliest D 60's I've been around is in the mid 70's I suppose.. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:36:15 -0800 From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 >There are semi floating Dana 60s as well as full floaters. This one sounds >like a semi floater. It's a full floater. Up until 64? I think used a removable drum. Drawback like I said was that they are only 12x2" wide brakes. Probably fine if you never carry heavy loads but still give more stopping power than the 11x2" on the 1/2 ton. Laters -- Don Grossman duckdon mac.com
------------------------------ From: "Paul Johnson" <pauljohn nortelnetworks.com>
Subject: Mail Order Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:05:25 -0600 A quick question which probably has about a million answers. I'm looking for a good, highly recommended, cheap, reliable, www parts order place. One place I came across recently was wrenchhead.com. Anybody have any experience with them? In particular, to my fellow Canadians on the list, any Canadian resources for this? Regarding a recent list topic, Dana 60 axle nuts, I recently went through the hardships of trying to find a socket to fit the nuts on my '68 250. Most of the parts places had a 2-9/16 socket, but from what I saw, this appeared to fit back to about 1972 or so. On mine, the size was 2-3/8. Went to lots of places trying to find a socket this size but with a thin enough wall to fit. Also had to be a six-point socket. Eventually found one at an industrial supply place (Ackland-Grainger) I think made by a company called ATC(??) A good time was had by all.... Paul 1968 Mercury 250 Camper Special 1970 Bronco Pick-up 1986 AMC Eagle (new family vehicle!) 1991 Isuzu Impulse RS AWD Turbo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 16:02:08 -0700 From: Dave Oneal <dave davesmonsterpit.com>
Subject: Re: Mail Order I have ordered a bunch of stuff from wrenchead.com they are pretty reliable, I dont know about the Canada part. At 04:05 PM 11/13/00 -0600, you wrote: >A quick question which probably has about a million answers. I'm looking >for a good, highly recommended, cheap, reliable, www parts order place. One >place I came across recently was wrenchhead.com. Anybody have any >experience with them? In particular, to my fellow Canadians on the list, >any Canadian resources for this? >Regarding a recent list topic, Dana 60 axle nuts, I recently went through >the hardships of trying to find a socket to fit the nuts on my '68 250. >Most of the parts places had a 2-9/16 socket, but from what I saw, this >appeared to fit back to about 1972 or so. On mine, the size was 2-3/8. >Went to lots of places trying to find a socket this size but with a thin >enough wall to fit. Also had to be a six-point socket. Eventually found >one at an industrial supply place (Ackland-Grainger) I think made by a >company called ATC(??) A good time was had by all.... > >Paul >1968 Mercury 250 Camper Special >1970 Bronco Pick-up >1986 AMC Eagle (new family vehicle!) >1991 Isuzu Impulse RS AWD Turbo > > > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. Dave http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.davesmonsterpit.com ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: Mail Order Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 15:21:47 -0800 Probably OTC, Owatonna Tool Company (http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.otctools.com/) They make a lot of the specialty tools for Fords as well as other makes. We used to buy their tools at the dealership I worked for. /// Friends help you move...Real friends help you move bodies \\ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Johnson" <pauljohn nortelnetworks.com>
To: "'Ford Truck List'" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 2:05 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Mail Order > Regarding a recent list topic, Dana 60 axle nuts, I recently went through > the hardships of trying to find a socket to fit the nuts on my '68 250. > Most of the parts places had a 2-9/16 socket, but from what I saw, this > appeared to fit back to about 1972 or so. On mine, the size was 2-3/8. > Went to lots of places trying to find a socket this size but with a thin > enough wall to fit. Also had to be a six-point socket. Eventually found > one at an industrial supply place (Ackland-Grainger) I think made by a > company called ATC(??) A good time was had by all.... ------------------------------ From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: OEM MIRRORS Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 23:18:43 -0500 > From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
A week or two ago, someone asked about swapping newer Ford mirrors onto our old trucks and wondering if they would work and how they mounted> There are the two screws visible from the outside. They screw into inserts which are attached to the outer skin This question may have already been answered. These inserts that allow you to thread a bolt in to the door skin or any sheet metal are called "rivnuts". They work a heck of a lot better than sheet metal screws. Rich ------------------------------ From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:23:47 -0800 There were some semi floating 60s (5 lug) that had removable drums. I haven't seen a full floating Dana 60 that the brake drum came off without pulling the hub. Jason '69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke "As fast as necessary, as slow as possible" ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:14:38 EST Subject: Re: D 60 In a message dated 11/13/2000 9:11:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, derrar internetcds.com writes:
> There were some semi floating 60s (5 lug) that had removable drums. I > haven't seen a full floating Dana 60 that the brake drum came off without > pulling the hub. > I dont know what the first year was, but my dads 88 E-350 has a HD Dana 60 with drums that come off with out pullin the axle. Really comes in handy with that brake eatin truck. Might be the same with the F-seies of the same year, so it might help you F-250 owners out there. I havent seen a Dana 70 like that yet, but if I do, Im grabbin it for Tweety. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:46:07 -0800 Its not a 10.25"? I haven't seen a Dana 60 in the rear of a van or a pickup since the really early 80's. Jason '69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke "As fast as necessary, as slow as possible" > I dont know what the first year was, but my dads 88 E-350 has a HD Dana 60 > with drums that come off with out pullin the axle. Really comes in handy > with that brake eatin truck. Might be the same with the F-seies of the same > year, so it might help you F-250 owners out there. I havent seen a Dana 70 > like that yet, but if I do, Im grabbin it for Tweety. > > Darrell & Tweety > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 00:34:39 EST Subject: Re: D 60 In a message dated 11/13/2000 9:33:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, derrar internetcds.com writes:
> Its not a 10.25"? I haven't seen a Dana 60 in the rear of a van or a pickup > since the really early 80's. > Jason > Yup, Dana 60 HD, stamped right on the cover. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 06:25:51 EST Subject: Re: Brake HELP! Got one or two in the garage if interested. Contact off line if you want. Glenn in NY. Aeroape82 aol.com
------------------------------ From: Gary Pope <pope.gary transplatinum.com>
Subject: Water In The Oil Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:37:32 -0600 Hi, I am new to the list and wanted to say hi. I got my 67' F100 on Friday, she's a little bit sorry looking and needs a lot of work. It's going to be a long project for me, which I am looking forward to working on. The truck has a 352 V8 with a 3 speed manual transmission. My immediate problem is that there appears to be water getting into the oil. There is a white sludge appearing on the dip stick and out of the rocker breathers. A white steamy smoke is coming out the exhausts. Any ideas what the problem might be and what would be my steps to resolving it. I am assuming that the engine won't last long if I run it like this. I need to do the repair as cheap as possible as my cash flow is about exhausted for now. An engine rebuild would not be possible at this time. Thanks, Gary Pope Smyrna, TN ------------------------------ From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:47:39 -0800 Ford didn't use the Dana 60 in the F-series after I think 85. After that it's all 10.25" Ford rears. Much better anyway and all of them have drums that will pull right off. Josh -----Original Message----- From: JUMPINFORD aol.com [mailto:JUMPINFORD aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 9:15 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: D 60 In a message dated 11/13/2000 9:11:27 PM Pacific Standard Time, derrar internetcds.com writes:
> There were some semi floating 60s (5 lug) that had removable drums. I > haven't seen a full floating Dana 60 that the brake drum came off without > pulling the hub. > I dont know what the first year was, but my dads 88 E-350 has a HD Dana 60 with drums that come off with out pullin the axle. Really comes in handy with that brake eatin truck. Might be the same with the F-seies of the same year, so it might help you F-250 owners out there. I havent seen a Dana 70 like that yet, but if I do, Im grabbin it for Tweety. Darrell & Tweety ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:57:50 EST Subject: Re: D 60 In a message dated 11/14/2000 8:51:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, Josh.Nichols svseeds.com writes:
> Ford didn't use the Dana 60 in the F-series after I think 85. After that > it's all 10.25" Ford rears. Much better anyway and all of them have drums > that will pull right off. > > Josh > I dont know if the E-series is different, but I know the difference between a Dana 60 and a 10.25. This is most definately a dana 60HD. Anyone wants to prove it, go ask for a diff cover gasket for a 1988 E-350 w/460 and a 9900 lb GVW. you will get a dana 60 Gasket. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: D 60 Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:05:09 -0800 Ford did a few goofy things with the E-series. Matter of fact a newer E-350 delivery van (had the v-10 so it must of been 97 or newer?) just dropped of some stuff here at work and it deffinetly had a full floating Dana rear. Looked like a 60 but ouldn't tell for sure, but it definelty wasn't the 10.25. Josh -----Original Message----- From: JUMPINFORD aol.com [mailto:JUMPINFORD aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:58 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: D 60 In a message dated 11/14/2000 8:51:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, Josh.Nichols svseeds.com writes:
> Ford didn't use the Dana 60 in the F-series after I think 85. After that > it's all 10.25" Ford rears. Much better anyway and all of them have drums > that will pull right off. > > Josh > I dont know if the E-series is different, but I know the difference between a Dana 60 and a 10.25. This is most definately a dana 60HD. Anyone wants to prove it, go ask for a diff cover gasket for a 1988 E-350 w/460 and a 9900 lb GVW. you will get a dana 60 Gasket. Darrell & Tweety ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Daniel Beiers" <dbeiers rmpprestress.com>
Subject: Re: Water In The Oil Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:15:21 -0700 head gaskets -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Gary Pope
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2000 8:38 AM To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [61-79-list] Water In The Oil Hi, I am new to the list and wanted to say hi. I got my 67' F100 on Friday, she's a little bit sorry looking and needs a lot of work. It's going to be a long project for me, which I am looking forward to working on. The truck has a 352 V8 with a 3 speed manual transmission. My immediate problem is that there appears to be water getting into the oil. There is a white sludge appearing on the dip stick and out of the rocker breathers. A white steamy smoke is coming out the exhausts. Any ideas what the problem might be and what would be my steps to resolving it. I am assuming that the engine won't last long if I run it like this. I need to do the repair as cheap as possible as my cash flow is about exhausted for now. An engine rebuild would not be possible at this time. Thanks, Gary Pope Smyrna, TN ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:15:58 -0800 (PST) From: James Oxley <joxenburger yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: D60 JUMPINFORD aol.com wrote:
> > In a message dated 11/14/2000 8:51:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, > Josh.Nichols svseeds.com writes:
> > > Ford didn't use the Dana 60 in the F-series after I think 85. After that > > it's all 10.25" Ford rears. Much better anyway and all of them have drums > > that will pull right off. > > > > Josh > > > > I dont know if the E-series is different, but I know the difference between a > Dana 60 and a 10.25. This is most definately a dana 60HD. Anyone wants to > prove it, go ask for a diff cover gasket for a 1988 E-350 w/460 and a 9900 lb > GVW. you will get a dana 60 Gasket. > > Darrell & Tweety > > Since the E-series D60 has an offfset carrier, maybe ford figured why do a new offset axle for it, just keep the D60. OX ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- 78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44 boggers, 9" lift 79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5 SX's, 4"lift 79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift 86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)
__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Get organized for the holidays! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://calendar.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Water In The Oil Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:31:14 -0800 My 67, 352 used to get water in it when it sat over the winter. It was not coolant, it was from outside the engine and the oil had to be drained every spring when I began to use it. Never did figure out where it came from. If you have not changed the oil since you got the truck, change the oil and then keep an eye on it. If it has to sit for a while go out and start it up and let it run for 20 minutes at a time about once a week to keep the water out of it. Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > My immediate problem is that there appears to be water getting into the oil. > There is a white sludge appearing on the dip stick and out of the rocker > breathers. > A white steamy smoke is coming out the exhausts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:55:35 -0600 Subject: Grant steering wheel From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
SWMBO and my son are collaborating to purchase a much desired Grant steering wheel for Christmas. I know I need an installation kit. Is there anything I should be aware of before I let them purchase this thing? I want a normal 4 spoke foam grip steering wheel, nothing fancy or unusual. I will probably go with one from J.C. Whitney. It goes on Henry, of course. No cruise control, no tilt column. I would like for the horn to work from the steering wheel after installation. -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "gene baker" <bakergene hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Grant steering wheel Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:23:10 CST John, No there is nothing they ned to know except of course the year and make of the truck and what type of steering wheel you are going to use. I have a Grant Classic 4 spoke on my 1972 F100 and I think the installation kit is the same for your truck. One thing though, if you want a decent horn button, go with the billet aluminum button, the one that comes with the kit is just a cheap plastic one. Gene >From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [61-79-list] Grant steering wheel >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:55:35 -0600 > >SWMBO and my son are collaborating to purchase a much desired Grant >steering >wheel for Christmas. I know I need an installation kit. Is there anything I >should be aware of before I let them purchase this thing? I want a normal 4 >spoke foam grip steering wheel, nothing fancy or unusual. I will probably >go >with one from J.C. Whitney. It goes on Henry, of course. No cruise control, >no tilt column. I would like for the horn to work from the steering wheel >after installation. > >-- John >jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
>1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) >http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm >Dearborn iron rules!!!! > > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 13:42:58 -0600 Subject: Re: Grant steering wheel From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
> John, > No there is nothing they ned to know except of course the year and make of > the truck and what type of steering wheel you are going to use. I have a > Grant Classic 4 spoke on my 1972 F100 and I think the installation kit is > the same for your truck. One thing though, if you want a decent horn button, > go with the billet aluminum button, the one that comes with the kit is just > a cheap plastic one. > > Gene Thanks, Gene. This is the kind of info I'm looking for. -- John jlagrone ....To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session
cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.
Advertising -
Terms of Use - Privacy Policy -
Jobs
This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company. 
|