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Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:28:24 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #330 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Fri, 10 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 330 In This Issue: Re: New to List...Question 1 Re: PAINT QUESTION Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Re: emissions Re: C-6 jumped out of Park 78 F250 4x4 Re: Is this a ridiculous question? Paint questions Re: 78 F250 4x4 Re: 78 F-250 axles Circuit breaker for park lights? Re: Circuit breaker for park lights? Re: C-6 jumped out of Park Re: Circuit breaker for park lights? Re: PAINT QUESTION Re: PAINT QUESTION Re: was emissions, now Springtown Re: Speedo assemblies... Re: 78 F250 4x4 FE Pulleys Retirement etc.... Re: Is this a rediculous question? C6 ratios Re: Paint Question Iowa FTE'ers? FTE Iowa get-together Re: Retirement etc.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Fordman9901 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:53:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: New to List...Question 1 Dan i have a 70 2wd F100 351w and 4 speed with 31x10.50x15 tires on it and have no problems with it it also has power steering that someone else put on it. and also has the stock steering column I am not sure what year the power steering pump they used i also have a picture on the Ford Enthusiasts pictorial under 70 models it is white with a stripe down the side it is listed under FORD-TRUCK-70 Hope this helps if you have any other questions email me Thanks Randy -- Attached file included as plaintext by Listar -- Received: from smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.96) by storefull-156.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:06:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 751DC17A; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:06:47 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: fordman9901 Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [209.50.251.152]) by smtpin-101-2.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7A4EA for <Fordman9901 Received: from ford-trucks.com (ford-trucks.com [209.50.251.152]) by ford-trucks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03619; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:11:20 -0500 Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:11:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from stout.entertain.com (root by ford-trucks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA03572 for <61-79-list Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:11:04 -0500 Received: from ws047 (ppp018.xpert.net [204.144.221.70]) by stout.entertain.com (8.8.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA29399 for <61-79-list Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:06:01 -0700 (MST) From: "Daniel Beiers" <dbeiers To: <61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] New to List...Question 1 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:05:03 -0700 Message-ID: <000101c04b40$2300000a MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <CDCA7EAA1C941B4A8EEB34355CC3ECDD1957A7 X-listar-version: Listar v0.129a Sender: 61-79-list-bounce Errors-To: 61-79-list-bounce X-original-sender: dbeiers Precedence: list Reply-To: 61-79-list X-list: 61-79-list Hey, My name is Dan Beiers and I am the new owner of a 2wd 67 F-100. It has a swapped in 390, 4bbl, headers etc. Its a T-18 manual 4 spd. I live in downtown Denver and parallel parking is impossible. I would like to swap in a power steering setup. I was told that in addition to getting a pump, brackets, and gear, that I would also need a different shaft/column as the steering shaft and outer column are longer in a manual steer truck. My question is, basically, is this true? Could the existing column be modified to work. I like the looks of my stock column and also fear having to swap it out in terms of time. Also what would be the best donor vehicle for these items. I found a 73 pickup in a bone yard with a gear, pump, and brackets but the column is not only aesthetically displeasing but appears to be quite a bit different than my 67's. Any tips on this swap or write-up locations would be very helpful. Also what is the maximum tire size I can fit on this truck without disturbing anything. It looks like 30x9.5 would fit fine but that 31's might be a bit tight. Anyone with these tire sizes on a similar truck? Thanks for your time Dan ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "ben" <stevee Subject: Re: PAINT QUESTION Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 03:35:32 -0600 I used to work at a Maaco here in Wisconsin. They had a book of colors the customers could pick from, but I don't think there was any camo colors. I mixed up 3 quarts of olive drab for me to use on my truck when I worked there but it was not easy. I had to look through paint chip books from Dupont and PPG to find an olive drab, and there was other camo colors like various browns and greens. After I got the PPG and Dupont color codes I had to cross reference to find the code for the Nason brand paint we used. The only thing is there was not any flat colors in the Nason mixing bank. So right now if I were to spray my truck with it, it would be shiny and not the flat green I want. But, Nason has a additive for there paint that is called a "flattener". When added to the 3 quarts of paint I have it would turn it into a flat green. I don't know what the Maaco's out where you live use for paint, but if it's Nason they should be able to do it for you. If you need any body work done I wouldn't recommend Maaco though, there any to everything is Bondo and lots of it. But if all you want is to have your truck painted then they will do just fine. I think I even have the mixing sheet for the olive drab still, this would tell them how to mix it so they wouldn't have to go through all the trouble I did. If I can find it I could scan it and email it to you. If you need any more info or have any questions you can email me off list at stevee For the bed liner I would do it after you got it painted, so they wouldn't get any paint on it. If Maaco got paint on it they would try to get it off by using thinner or reducer and I don't know what effect that would have on freshly sprayed bed liner, it probably wouldn't be good though. ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:55:27 GMT Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park >dont as me how the worked the linkage, >but they all used the shifter out of early 80's Mustangs. Piece of cake ... the linkage is pretty standard between transmissions, just be sure the detents in the tranny and the shifter line up :) > Only prob was >reachin way down to shift. > Here's where your Aerostar pieces can come in handy, some of those had a floor shifter with a nice long handle on them ... I always thought it looked funny, but it would be useful in this situation ... Bronco II's and Ranger's had similar things, but they were never quite as tall I don't think. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon Subject: Re: emissions Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:57:21 -0700 you're right- parts guy called to say vendor discontinued the item. :( -Randy '79 f250 supercab -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce [mailto:61-79-list-bounce Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:51 AM To: '61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions Don't want to be a downer, but I wouldn't rejoice until the part is in your hands and then bolted to your truck. Hopefully they ordered the right one (and the warehouse actually has it). Just speaking from personal experience... -----Original Message----- From: Randy Cannon [mailto:rcannon Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:43 AM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions Whew!- I finally found the right A.I.R tube at one of the less-frequented parts stores. They had to special order it, and it'll take a week to get here, but after making 30+ calls to wrecking yards, parts stores, etc..., I'm relieved. Thanks for all your help. -Randy '79 f250 supercab ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: oldfords63 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:18:39 -0500 Subject: Re: C-6 jumped out of Park > I want to take this opportunity to warn everyone, especially those new to old Ford trucks, > that the C-6 is well known for falling out of Park into Reverse when the engine is running. ========================================================================= ===== I can't remember the exact year but in the late 70's; very early 80's, there was a big stink with Fords of any type, (with a "column" shift) dropping out of Park and into Reverse. I had a 79 Cougar (FMX) , a 72 F-250 (C-6) , and a 77 Granada (C-4) at the time, and Ford sent me these cheezy little stickers to put on the dash as a warning. I think that's one of the reasons behind the redesign of the car columns in the mid 80's. Later, Phil ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:18:20 -0800 From: "JM O'Neill" <hanabi Subject: 78 F250 4x4 Hi folks, I'm trying to determine how close to stock the suspension my 78 F250 4x4 is. I purchased the truck from my brother who sts the only mod he did was an add-a-leaf to the front to level the truck. The rear has springs with 6 leaves and 3'' lift blocks. The blocks have 'ears' on them designed to stop against bumpers bolted to the frame. Question: did Ford use lift blocks from the factory? Joe O'Neill ------------------------------ From: BRussAZ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:19:22 EST Subject: Re: Is this a ridiculous question? In a message dated 11/9/00 11:51:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, genegow << When I replaced my 240 with a 300 the mechanic said the oilpan was a few inches deeper on the 300 (he was worried about it hitting the crossmember but it still swapped in OK). Texican Teacher, 70 F100 w 300/six >> thanx man... Bill ------------------------------ From: "Don Jones" <twistedhand Subject: Paint questions Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:23:19 GMT >>camo paint job around here *sniffle~sob* so I am gonna have to go with >>Maaco >>or Earl Schieb! I want to know this: I am planning on doing a spray on >>bedliner in my truck, should I do it BEFORE or AFTER the paint job since I >>dont think they'll paint the inside of my bed. Also, do they have like a >>book >>of colors and stuff I can look at to decide what color I want? >>Thanks a >>lot guys! Any other info would help! Lisa: Tell them you want it painted.. you are the customer, afterall, and to just shoot the inside of the bed would take very little time and depending on your expectations, they can even skip the prep work. check with the place that does the spray in liner. they may have a preference as to weither to paint first or not.. Changing colour of your truck would likely cost more than refinishing it the same colour, because it usually involves priming it, but they should be able to paint it *any* colour!! Don Jones 1970 f-250 ~Fordzilla~ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:33:29 -0800 From: Don Grossman <duckdon Subject: Re: 78 F250 4x4 >Hi folks, > > >Question: did Ford use lift blocks from the factory? > Yep. -- Don Grossman duckdon ------------------------------ From: FORDTRKNUT Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:43:54 EST Subject: Re: 78 F-250 axles You can tell if the truck has a Dana 60 Front axel by the steering arm on the rear. The Dana 44 (3/4 ton) has a 3-bolt (Boomarang looking) steering arm. The Dana 60 (1 ton) has a 4-bolt steering arm. All 1978 & 1979 F-250's had Dana 60 rears. If you have any more questions....just ask!!! Wayne Grabley (Clifton, NJ) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 19:50:33 -0800 From: Greg <greg Subject: Circuit breaker for park lights? Is there a C.B. for parking lights? I tried out my new trailer tonight. The park lights would go on and off at pretty much regular intervals when the trailer lights are pluged in. There's no prob when they're not plugged in. If there is a C.B., where is it located or could there be another problem? There's no shorts in the wiring. It's all new and routed thru hoses to prevent chafing. TIA Greg ------------------------------ From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" <oldparts Subject: Re: Circuit breaker for park lights? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:02:19 -0500 I would recheck the wires at the connector, the splices in to your wiring for the pig tail and I would recheck the trailer wiring. I bought a new trailer several years back and it had the same problem. Found that even though the wiring was wrapped with tubing the wiring had been chaffed during the installation and was shorting out inside the sleve. Took for ever to find but has been fine ever since. -Ted -----Original Message----- From: Greg <greg To: 61-79-list Date: Friday, November 10, 2000 7:56 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Circuit breaker for park lights? >Is there a C.B. for parking lights? I tried out my new trailer tonight. >The park lights would go on and off at pretty much regular intervals >when the trailer lights are pluged in. There's no prob when they're not >plugged in. If there is a C.B., where is it located or could there be >another problem? There's no shorts in the wiring. It's all new and >routed thru hoses to prevent chafing. > >TIA >Greg > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: C-6 jumped out of Park Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:11:29 -0500 > > I want to take this opportunity to warn everyone, especially those new > to old Ford trucks, > that the C-6 is well known for falling out of Park > into Reverse when the engine is running. > ========================================================================= In 1969 the ford galaxies had allot of troubles with jumping out of park into reverse i recall seeing a friend walking behind his police cruiser when this happened and it pushed him into a hedge of briar bushes bad thing was it was so funny i watching it happen i couldnt even help him gordon ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: Circuit breaker for park lights? Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:14:35 -0500 > Is there a C.B. for parking lights? ng. > > TIA > Greg > > ============================================================= far as i know the C/B is built into the headlight switch itself you may need to replace the whole switch gordon ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan Subject: Re: PAINT QUESTION Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:21:08 -0800 I don't think it matters if you do the bed liner first or after. I would probably do it after since the discount painters are not known for putting extra effort into masking. That said you can go a long way to improving the quality of the paint job by removing any trim you don't want painted over ahead of time. Hot Rod mag did an ES discount paint job and before they went in they stripped the car down to a shell and then let them shoot it. You may not want to go that far but if it isn't on the truck it can't get oversprayed.;0) Tom H. > > Hey guys! *hugs* Well, I think I realized I can't find anyone > to do a decent > camo paint job around here *sniffle~sob* so I am gonna have > to go with Maaco > or Earl Schieb! I want to know this: I am planning on doing a > spray on > bedliner in my truck, should I do it BEFORE or AFTER the > paint job since I > dont think they'll paint the inside of my bed. Also, do they > have like a book > of colors and stuff I can look at to decide what color I > want? Thanks a lot > guys! Any other info would help! > > *~*~Lisa and ENVY~*~* > *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~* > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: GMontgo930 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:24:35 EST Subject: Re: PAINT QUESTION Hey Lisa You might want to try calling RinoLinings. I've had some dealing with them Coating some deckplates on a Submarine Trainer I worked on a few years ago. They have several colors (cant remember how many) and can even mix in some noskid material (somewhat like garnet). I know there are others out there that do the same thing. That's who I've worked with and they (the Navy dude's) were happy with the results. George in Fl. In a message dated 11/10/00 2:46:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bad4dFilly > Hey guys! *hugs* Well, I think I realized I can't find anyone to do a decent > camo paint job around here *sniffle~sob* so I am gonna have to go with > Maaco > or Earl Schieb! I want to know this: I am planning on doing a spray on > bedliner in my truck, should I do it BEFORE or AFTER the paint job since I > dont think they'll paint the inside of my bed. Also, do they have like a > book > of colors and stuff I can look at to decide what color I want? Thanks a lot > guys! Any other info would help! > > *~*~Lisa and ENVY~*~* > *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~* > George ------------------------------ From: "gene baker" <bakergene Subject: Re: was emissions, now Springtown Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 21:39:12 CST I live about 13 miles north of Springtown, close to Poolville. I have a 1972F100, but the motor is torn out right now to be replaced with my screamer (hopefully by the end of winter). Gene >From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 >Reply-To: 61-79-list >To: <61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions >Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 20:53:41 -0600 > >Oh awesome, my sis' boyfriend lives in Sprintown, maybe we can meet up or >something? What kind of truck do you have? > >-----Original Message----- >From: 61-79-list-bounce >[mailto:61-79-list-bounce >Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 8:33 PM >To: 61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions > >Hey Ron, >Where are you at in Texas. I live about 30 miles north of Fort Worth in >Springtown. I know that Eric Washburn lives in Azle, which is about 20 >minutes from me. > >Gene >bakergene > > > >From: Ron Martens <martens > >Reply-To: 61-79-list > >To: 61-79-list > >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions > >Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:45:43 -0600 > > > >Where are you located? I just bought one here in Texas for a 302. > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Carver" <carver Subject: Re: Speedo assemblies... Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:45:19 -0800 I think it depends on if the speedos are the same style. I am pretty sure that the round ones will swap with the round style, regardless of which truck style or year it came from. The '65 Custom cabs and late '64's started using the wide style of speedo. Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab --------------- I was wondering if a speedo assembly out of a '65 camper special is the same as the one in my '64 Custom cab? ------------------------------ From: "Shelley Batty" <shelba Subject: Re: 78 F250 4x4 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:58:02 -0800 Yes. These sound like Ford factory blocks, I've owned a couple of ford 4x4s, all had rear blocks. -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce [mailto:61-79-list-bounce Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 3:18 PM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] 78 F250 4x4 Hi folks, I'm trying to determine how close to stock the suspension my 78 F250 4x4 is. I purchased the truck from my brother who sts the only mod he did was an add-a-leaf to the front to level the truck. The rear has springs with 6 leaves and 3'' lift blocks. The blocks have 'ears' on them designed to stop against bumpers bolted to the frame. Question: did Ford use lift blocks from the factory? Joe O'Neill ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 02:18:24 EST Subject: FE Pulleys I have had to get another set of pulleys for the 428 in my 76 to match better. The old set has the wrong pulleys on the harmonic balancer and caused some draging of the belts. The new water pump pulley has three grooves for three belts as does the new crankshaft pulley. The new pulley for the crankshaft is all one piece and detaches from the balancer. New balancer has no groove machined into it or pressed onto it in any way. It is a single piece when everything is unbolted from it (except for the outer ring with rubber between it and the middle part). I need two grooves on the water pump pulley to run the power steering and the alt properly. I can see where the crank pulley is for AC if used. Any ideas what the third groove on the waterpump pulley is for? Thanks in advance Rollie ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Retirement etc.... Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:31:26 -0800 Well, I have to say that this retirement thing aint as bad as some like to think. I haven't been bored for one second so far and money is holding up pretty well now that we have both got our "Retirement legs" so to speak. A little bonus came up when Visteon called me and asked me to come back and teach some operators and get the machine back up. Seems no one else could figure it out and Walters said that our machine is so old and software is custom so that they would not be able to do much to help (which was very true :-)) I didn't know what they thought I would be happy with for pay so I determined to go in and tell them my demands first before starting and was determined to walk out if they refused. They accepted my terms fairly happily and some friends said I under sold myself :-) I am pretty happy with $45/hr though (I'm not greedy :-)) so in 18 hrs of work I made $900 and they want me to come back one day a week to do this for a while. I can handle this I think :-) If I can keep my wife under control I may get my Lathe/Mill machine yet :-) Visteon has different rules about things than Ford did. They set a rule that supervisors over any group had to have practical experience in and be qualified in the work they oversee. This means that tool room supervisors have to have a journeyman's card as Die Makers or Tool Makers at the very least. FINALLY! Someone got smart :-) But, no matter, I'm out of that loop now and very happy to be out of it :-) They also promised to keep all personnel not involved in the training out of my way (one person in particular) which I has also decided would be part of my terms. The person I am training is very interested in learning the machine so it turned out to be a nice couple of days. You always have more fun teaching someone who is smart and interested. It can be very satisfying under those conditions :-) Even the electrician I had to call was very cooperative (he used to be hard to get along with but two things happened: I learned how to deal with him and he began to respect my knowledge, finally). I took my wife out shopping last night and we just happened to stop at Sams.......what a mistake! She filled two carts with Christmas stuff! There went my machine again :-( Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) ------------------------------ From: Aeroape82 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:50:47 EST Subject: Re: Is this a rediculous question? I don't know about the difference but have a 81 300 in the garage collecting dust if interested. ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 Subject: C6 ratios Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 09:22:49 -0600 Gary writes: >> I think Azie meant "Wide" ratio here? Only point this out to avoid confusion for some......:-) Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > The C6 close ratio and the E4OD have the same 1st three gear ratios..<< Yep.... Thats what I meant.. W I D E ratio. Not close ratio.. Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "Scott Jensen" <sjensensr Subject: Re: Paint Question Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 07:14:06 -0800 Hi Lisa, There will probably be a bunch of different opinions, but I would paint the bed after the rest of the truck is painted. I've seen a few of the painted bed liners and the transition line on top of the bed always looked like it would be hard to tape. A little planning might be in order though. The bedliner people give a warrantee, so they do a pretty good prep job. I'd hate to have them sand blasting and grinding right next to the fresh paint. Might be a good idea to drive over and chat with them. Maybe a deal could be worked out where some of the prep could be done beforehand, since the whole truck has to be prepped anyway. As far as getting a "cheap" paint job, always remember, the only difference between cheap and expensive is the amount of prep the shop has to do. I used to do quite a bit of spraying in the garage, but the time spent rigging all the plastic got to be a bit much. Not to mention SWMBO, who would think the washer and dryer were necessities? ------------------------------ From: "paul williams" <williams22470 Subject: Iowa FTE'ers? Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:47:49 PST Wish; Are there quite a few FTE'ers on the list in Iowa? If so, does a get-together sound good sometime? BTW, I am about an hour NE of Ames,IA. > >From: "wish" <wish >Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:03:28 GMT >Subject: Re: I need a hood > > >Darrell, I'm in southwest Iowa, or about 100 miles south of Wish. > >Which reminds me ... when and where are we gonna meet ? In a week or so I >should >finally have my machine back together and running... > > > >Just my $.02 >wish > >96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L >73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: FTE Iowa get-together Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:20:15 -0600 Wish, sorry for the delayed response. I'm working on getting my '78 road-worthy, and I think it'll be done soon. If not, I can break out the '70. I'm really waiting for my son to be born-the due date was the nineth of this month. Sometime in early December sounds like a good place to start. I think Des Moines would be a good central location, unless you have a better idea. Jason Kendrick > Which reminds me ... when and where are we gonna meet ? In a week or so I should > finally have my machine back together and running... ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson Subject: Re: Retirement etc.... Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:22:25 -0600 Glad to hear your are enjoying yourself Gary. I would be pretty happy with $45 an hour too! ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary To: afte-list Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2000 10:31 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Retirement etc.... Well, I have to say that this retirement thing aint as bad as some like to think. I haven't been bored for one second so far and money is holding up pretty well now that we have both got our "Retirement legs" so to speak. A little bonus came up when Visteon called me and asked me to come back and teach some operators and get the machine back up. Seems no one else could figure it out and Walters said that our machine is so old and software is custom so that they would not be able to do much to help (which was very true :-)) I didn't know what they thought I would be happy with for pay so I determined to go in and tell them my demands first before starting and was determined to walk out if they refused. They accepted my terms fairly happily and some friends said I under sold myself :-) I am pretty happy with $45/hr though (I'm not greedy :-)) so in 18 hrs of work I made $900 and they want me to come back one day a week to do this for a while. I can handle this I think :-) If I can keep my wife under control I may get my Lathe/Mill machine yet :-) Visteon has different rules about things than Ford did. They set a rule that supervisors over any group had to have practical experience in and be qualified in the work they oversee. This means that tool room supervisors have to have a journeyman's card as Die Makers or Tool Makers at the very least. FINALLY! Someone got smart :-) But, no matter, I'm out of that loop now and very happy to be out of it :-) They also promised to keep all personnel not involved in the training out of my way (one person in particular) which I has also decided would be part of my terms. The person I am training is very interested in learning the machine so it turned out to be a nice couple of days. You always have more fun teaching someone who is smart and interested. It can be very satisfying under those conditions :-) Even the electrician I had to call was very cooperative (he used to be hard to get along with but two things happened: I learned how to deal with him and he began to res! pect my knowledge, finally). I took my wife out shopping last night and we just happened to stop at Sams.......what a mistake! She filled two carts with Christmas stuff! There went my machine again :-( .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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