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Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #329 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Thu, 09 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 329 In This Issue: Is this a ridiculous question? Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Re: I need a hood Re: Front clip options 78 F-250 axles Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Re: More '79 F-350 Issues Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page Re: Fw: Key blanks for '66 F100 Re: 78 F-250 axles Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Re: emissions Re: emissions New to List...Question 1 Re: New to List...Question 1 PAINT QUESTION ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "gene gardner" <genegow hotmail.com>
Subject: Is this a ridiculous question? Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:48:29 -0600 >Are there any obvious external differences between the 240 and 300 ... When I replaced my 240 with a 300 the mechanic said the oilpan was a few inches deeper on the 300 (he was worried about it hitting the crossmember but it still swapped in OK). Texican Teacher, 70 F100 w 300/six ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:00:05 GMT Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park >that the C6 is well known for falling out of Park into >Reverse when the engine is running. >2. Always set your parking brake. The assumption is that the parking brake >works correctly. > Except that parking brakes on drum brake vehicles don't stop them from rolling backwards, especially not at high idle with a good sized V8 ... >3. Don't leave your running vehicle unattended. > Probably the BEST advice ... >Now many people will have the urge to say that they have driven there truck >for decades and 1000s of miles and never had this happen. If it had been anyone other than a handful of people on this list I'd have blown it off as an old wive's tale (husband's?) ... Anyway a friend of mine had a similar experience and let me tell you, the stories she had about filling out those insurance forms ... I guess leaving the line "driver" blank is a bit unnerving to them. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:03:28 GMT Subject: Re: I need a hood >Darrell, I'm in southwest Iowa, or about 100 miles south of Wish. Which reminds me ... when and where are we gonna meet ? In a week or so I should finally have my machine back together and running... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 16:02:47 -0600 Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
> Except that parking brakes on drum brake vehicles don't stop them from rolling > backwards, especially not at high idle with a good sized V8 ... Exactly. And many of the Lincolns and full sized Fords and Mercurys have automatic brake releases anyway. Say, I just realized why SWMBO"s Towncar only releases in drive while every Cadillac I have ever owned released in Reverse and Drive. Have a great weekend (I have Friday off!!) -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 21:33:18 -0500 From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Front clip options Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com> said:
>The Pacer was sold for how many years, 3 or so? It wasn't a hot seller. > >The Aerostar was produced for 10 years and was a huge seller. Slightly >larger customer base with the Aerostar, IMHO. Have no idea as to it's >worthiness, however. > >-----Original Message----- >From: wish [mailto:wish ford-trucks.net]
>I'm not positive how relevant this is, but one thing to consider is the >availability >of parts in a few years ... the Aerostar is the only one that really scares >me in this area, but it is something to think about ... > >There's a guy around here with a 57/8 Chrysl*r that's got a "late model" >front >clip on it to help with the better suspension and all that jazz ... only >problem >is this was done in about 1978...what was cheap and readily available then ? > How about a 76 Pacer front end ? He can't find parts for either end of his >car at a local parts store anymore ... we had to special order ball-joints >and such for him ... > >Just a word of caution. I would agree with Wish. Whether the Mustang II front end is a spectacular choice or not, the advantage that it has over other junkyard choices is that it is heavily favored in the aftermarket. No, it's no longer easy to go pull one yourself in the junkyard, but you call call up any number of street rod vendors and get pieces that are new and will work together. I'm an advocate of DIY and I happen to like working with original suspensions, but if I was set on adding IFS, I would certainly consider buying something new and going with the aftermarket that shows no sign of going away. Having said that, I plan on lowering my van the old fashioned way -- reversed-eye, de-arched leaf springs ... harsh ride and all! :) To really slam it would require notching the rear frame, and that's currently out of my league. -don Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA FCA Keystone Chapter Internet Director 61 Falcon Futura, 66 Falcon Club Wagon and classic scooters ------------------------------ From: "Robin Fikbohm" <droptt jbntelco.com>
Subject: 78 F-250 axles Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 22:04:56 -0600 I just got a 78 F-250 , my 1st Ford 4x4, the rearend is in need of repair, spider gears I think although I haven't opened it up yet. How do I tell what axles are under this truck? They look(front and back) like Dana 60's but how can I tell for sure? I'm new to the list and Ford 4x4's so any help is appreciated. Also is there any listers in the Kansas area? Rob F. 78 F-250 4x4 68 Kaiser/Jeep M725 5/4 ton ambulance ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:18:29 -0800 Mine never has.....so there! :-) The older vehicles had really poor shifter pawls and detents in the column. The transmission wasn't at fault so much as the shifter linkeage and lever on the column IMHO :-) All the C-6's I've messed with had awesome detents in the transmission itself but virtually all of them had really sloppy shift levers and springs to hold them in place in park. Not arguing the safety issue but don't blame the poor tranny.....I love my C-6's :-) Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > I want to take this opportunity to warn everyone, especially those new to > old Ford trucks, that the C6 is well known for falling out of Park into > Reverse when the engine is running. ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: More '79 F-350 Issues Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:21:51 -0800 I bought some generic straps at the parts store for the bronco but they were pretty thin so I used 4 of them to be safe :-) They look stock enough I would think. Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > 1. The current gas-tank on my '79 F-350 is in need of some help. Its > currently being held in with a chain and needs something a bit more > "legal" ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:05:09 -0500 I think I speak for all of us--- AMEN !!!! we have all lost a family member when we lose a Truckin' buddy. Tim Allgire-Montpelier,Ohio. -----Original Message----- From: Keith <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:37 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: ADMIN: Please visit the FTE home page > >I am sure the thoughts and prayers of all will be with his family. Take a >minute people especially around the upcoming holiday season to remember his >family in prayer, this is going to be a rough time for them. >```````` The Lord is my shepard, and I shall not want, >he makes me to lie down in green pastures, >and he leads me beside still waters, >and he restores my soul for his namesake, >Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, >I will fear no evil, for, his rod and his staff they comfort me````````````` >We do not know what tomorrow holds, but we know who holds our tomorrows, >Go in peace Scooter, >~Gone but not forgotten~ >Keith Price, > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Key blanks for '66 F100 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:21:32 -0500 Seems like I remember seeing the key blanks in either the LMC Catalog or the Dennis Carpenter Catalog. I will have to look.It also may be in one of the other catalogs I have too. I will get back with you on that one. -----Original Message----- From: skordik yahoo.com <skordik yahoo.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 3:48 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Fw: Key blanks for '66 F100 > > >> Are original key blanks still available over there in USA? >> I've tried locally (here in Ireland) to get my original key >> cut but they >> said they don't stock the correct blanks but would cut the >> key if I supply >> the blanks. Any help would be appreciated. I know this seems >> pretty trivial > >Try AutoKrafters > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.autokrafters.com > >I think that I saw them in the latest catalog. > >Steve Kordik > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://im.yahoo.com > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 07:01:28 -0800 From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: 78 F-250 axles Robin Fikbohm wrote: > I just got a 78 F-250 , my 1st Ford 4x4, the rearend is in need of repair, > spider gears I think although I haven't opened it up yet. How do I tell > what axles are under this truck? They look(front and back) like Dana 60's > but how can I tell for sure? Rob, There should be a # on the housing to the upper left of the yoke (facing the yoke). You prob have a 60. > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:51:27 -0600 Think it would be hard to convert it to a floor shift like on a car? =) I think I'm gonna do that just so it can be different from most peoples -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 1:18 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park Mine never has.....so there! :-) The older vehicles had really poor shifter pawls and detents in the column. The transmission wasn't at fault so much as the shifter linkeage and lever on the column IMHO :-) All the C-6's I've messed with had awesome detents in the transmission itself but virtually all of them had really sloppy shift levers and springs to hold them in place in park. Not arguing the safety issue but don't blame the poor tranny.....I love my C-6's :-) Happily Totally Retired, Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > I want to take this opportunity to warn everyone, especially those new to > old Ford trucks, that the C6 is well known for falling out of Park into > Reverse when the engine is running. ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 12:01:18 EST Subject: Re: [61-79-list]C6 jumped out of Park In a message dated 11/10/2000 6:48:33 AM Pacific Standard Time, bruce9 flash.net writes:
> Think it would be hard to convert it to a floor shift like on a car? =) I > think I'm gonna do that just so it can be different from most peoples > The last company I worked for had a few trucks that had floor shifters due to an auto swapped in place of a manual. dont as me how the worked the linkage, but they all used the shifter out of early 80's Mustangs. Only prob was reachin way down to shift. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: Re: emissions Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:43:10 -0700 Whew!- I finally found the right A.I.R tube at one of the less-frequented parts stores. They had to special order it, and it'll take a week to get here, but after making 30+ calls to wrecking yards, parts stores, etc..., I'm relieved. Thanks for all your help. -Randy '79 f250 supercab -----Original Message----- Randy Cannon wrote: > Sorry in advance for another emissions-related post, but... > > I am piecing together an emissions system for a '79 f250 supercab w/460. > (the original system was removed and discarded by PO, but is required for > inspection purposes). I've been unable to find an air injection tube (metal > tube, 3/8"-1/2" dia., bolts to rear of both heads). Anybody know where I > might acquire one of these? The local ford dealer says he might be able to > locate one for me, but at a price I'd like to avoid. :) > TIA for your help. > > -Randy ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: emissions Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 09:51:06 -0800 Don't want to be a downer, but I wouldn't rejoice until the part is in your hands and then bolted to your truck. Hopefully they ordered the right one (and the warehouse actually has it). Just speaking from personal experience... -----Original Message----- From: Randy Cannon [mailto:rcannon ussynthetic.com]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 9:43 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions Whew!- I finally found the right A.I.R tube at one of the less-frequented parts stores. They had to special order it, and it'll take a week to get here, but after making 30+ calls to wrecking yards, parts stores, etc..., I'm relieved. Thanks for all your help. -Randy '79 f250 supercab ------------------------------ From: "Daniel Beiers" <dbeiers rmpprestress.com>
Subject: New to List...Question 1 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 11:05:03 -0700 Hey, My name is Dan Beiers and I am the new owner of a 2wd 67 F-100. It has a swapped in 390, 4bbl, headers etc. Its a T-18 manual 4 spd. I live in downtown Denver and parallel parking is impossible. I would like to swap in a power steering setup. I was told that in addition to getting a pump, brackets, and gear, that I would also need a different shaft/column as the steering shaft and outer column are longer in a manual steer truck. My question is, basically, is this true? Could the existing column be modified to work. I like the looks of my stock column and also fear having to swap it out in terms of time. Also what would be the best donor vehicle for these items. I found a 73 pickup in a bone yard with a gear, pump, and brackets but the column is not only aesthetically displeasing but appears to be quite a bit different than my 67's. Any tips on this swap or write-up locations would be very helpful. Also what is the maximum tire size I can fit on this truck without disturbing anything. It looks like 30x9.5 would fit fine but that 31's might be a bit tight. Anyone with these tire sizes on a similar truck? Thanks for your time Dan ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: New to List...Question 1 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:18:23 -0800 Dad has a '67 F100 2wd SB and he has 30x9.50's on the front and 31x10.50's on the back. His truck had been converted to PS when he got it in '82. We don't know for sure what vehicle the box and pump came out of, but the pump looks late 70's/early '80's Ford (plastic reservoir with big plastic cap. The stock column was retained, but I don't know what if anything was done to it. Had to replace the pressure hose a couple years back and used one specified for a mid 80's Econoline with the 300-6 (dad has the 240). -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Beiers [mailto:dbeiers rmpprestress.com]
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2000 10:05 AM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] New to List...Question 1 Hey, My name is Dan Beiers and I am the new owner of a 2wd 67 F-100. It has a swapped in 390, 4bbl, headers etc. Its a T-18 manual 4 spd. I live in downtown Denver and parallel parking is impossible. I would like to swap in a power steering setup. I was told that in addition to getting a pump, brackets, and gear, that I would also need a different shaft/column as the steering shaft and outer column are longer in a manual steer truck. My question is, basically, is this true? Could the existing column be modified to work. I like the looks of my stock column and also fear having to swap it out in terms of time. Also what would be the best donor vehicle for these items. I found a 73 pickup in a bone yard with a gear, pump, and brackets but the column is not only aesthetically displeasing but appears to be quite a bit different than my 67's. Any tips on this swap or write-up locations would be very helpful. Also what is the maximum tire size I can fit on this truck without disturbing anything. It looks like 30x9.5 would fit fine but that 31's might be a bit tight. Anyone with these tire sizes on a similar truck? Thanks for your time Dan ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 14:39:38 EST Subject: PAINT QUESTION Hey guys! *hugs* Well, I think I realized I can't find anyone to do a decent camo paint job around here *sniffle~sob* so I am gonna have to go with Maaco or Earl Schieb! I want to know this: I am planning on doing a spray on bedliner in my truck, should I do it BEFORE or AFTER the paint job since I dont think they'll paint the inside of my bed. Also, do they have like a book of colors and stuff I can look at to decide what color I want? Thanks a lot guys! Any other info would help! *~*~Lisa and ENVY~*~* *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~* ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list Digest V2000 #329 *********************************** .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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