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61-79-list Digest Mon, 06 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 326

In This Issue:
colour matches
Gear ratios
emissions
Wiring
Re: Wiring
introduction
Attn: Roberta...re:bumper brackets
Remove fan from 300?
Re: one more saved
Re: Remove fan from 300?
ADMIN: Opportunities with Ford Truck Enthusiasts!
Re: emissions
3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?
Re: 3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?
Re: 3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?
Re: emissions

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From: "Don Jones" <twistedhand hotmail.com>
Subject: colour matches
Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 18:46:45 GMT

At 21:13 11/5/2000 -0600, you wrote:
>OK guys and gals, I goofed up..........In an earlier post I requested pics
>of a truck painted in either lunar green or harbor blue.  Lunar green ain't
>the color I was looking for. Harbor blue may not be the color I am looking
>for either.....unless it is an aqua marine type color.
>
>Does anyone have 68-70 paint chips that could be scanned and sent to me off
>list??
>Anyone know where i can get some factory paint chips????
>
>Thanks!!!!


Stu:
   Try the place that is going to do the painting for you, or the place
that you are going to buy your paint.  The place where i get mine lets me
take the book and compare for myself.

   Many of the older colours may not show the formula for the specific year
you are looking for, as they tend to get phased out as paint technology gets
changed.  The maroon colour of my truck is an example; It was'nt listed
under 1970 ford truck, but i found the exact match  listed under a 1979 trim
colour.

  The PPG book i had even had chips and formulas for most engine colours
well back into the 50's

  Whenever possible you should take colour chips outside and look at them
in sunlight.  Florescent or incandesent lights will never make colours look
right.

 Forget about trying to judge a colour based on a scan or what you see on
your computer monitor.  There are just too many ways for the reproduction to
be screwed up.


Don Jones
1970 f-250 4x4
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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Gear ratios
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:57:09 -0600


Tony Whited writes:  >>Tell me more about the wide ratio C6.  What years was it produced (I heard
'78?) and was it and the standard C6 produced together or did one follow the
other?  Is there a visual difference on the outside if I were searching for
a used one?   Last question, what are the ratios?  I have in my notes that a
C6 was 2.46, 1.46, and 1.00.





I post from US Gear site:>>
     Common Automatic Transmission Ratios

     Make Transmission 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear O/D
     Ford C6 2.46 1.46 1.00 N/A
       E40D 2.71 1.54 1.00 0.71
     GM T350 2.52 1.52 1.00 N/A
       T400/475B 2.48 1.48 1.00 N/A
       T700R4 3.06 1.63 1.00 0.70
       T4L80E 2.48 1.48 1.00 0.75
<<

The C6 close ratio and the E4OD have the same 1st three gear ratios..
Or at least that is what I'm told

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: emissions
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 17:00:12 -0700

Sorry in advance for another emissions-related post, but...

I am piecing together an emissions system for a '79 f250 supercab w/460.
(the original system was removed and discarded by PO, but is required for
inspection purposes).  I've been unable to find an air injection tube (metal
tube, 3/8"-1/2" dia., bolts to rear of both heads).  Anybody know where I
might acquire one of these?  The local ford dealer says he might be able to
locate one for me, but at a price I'd like to avoid. :)
TIA for your help.

-Randy


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From: WhtsUpDoc2 aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:27:15 EST
Subject: Wiring

Does anybody know where I can get a wiring harness for my alternator? I
called my local ford dealer, and they said that it was no longer available.
Is that true or did they just not want to look it up? I might be interested
in also buying a whole new main wiring harness. Has anyone undertaken this
feat? If so, can you get that factory? Where at? Price? Thanks guys

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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:37:30 EST
Subject: Re: Wiring

In a message dated 11/6/00 7:28:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,
WhtsUpDoc2 aol.com writes:

<< Does anybody know where I can get a wiring harness for my alternator? I
called my local ford dealer, and they said that it was no longer available.
Is that true or did they just not want to look it up? I might be interested
in also buying a whole new main wiring harness. Has anyone undertaken this
feat? If so, can you get that factory? Where at? Price? Thanks guys
 >>

Try  www.painlesswiring.com.  I'm sure they might can help you.  :o)

~Melissa
Marietta, GA
1965 F100 Custom Cab
1989 Bronco XLT
ICQ#84544993
Real Racers Drive Straight To The Finish Line...
Those Other Guys Just Drive In Circles Looking For It.

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From: BRussAZ aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:41:08 EST
Subject: introduction

Greetings All,
I own a 65 F100 longbed truck.  I am in the process of restoration and am
looking for a 300 six engine.  My question is are there any external
identifing marks to identify it as a 300 so I dont get a 240 or something
else.  I want to be sure and get a 300.
thanx in advance for your help.

Bill Russell (in Phoenix)

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From: EffieFrd aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:58:43 EST
Subject: Attn: Roberta...re:bumper brackets

Hey Roberta,
Would you write me off-list...I lost your email address.

~Melissa
Marietta, GA
1965 F100 Custom Cab
1989 Bronco XLT
ICQ#84544993
Real Racers Drive Straight To The Finish Line...
Those Other Guys Just Drive In Circles Looking For It.

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:15:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Fuel Pickup Sock
From: Brett L Habben <bhabben juno.com>

Gary,
Ford doesn't sell the sock?  Well, GM sells them cheap.  I just replaced
one the other day.  If you want I can go out in the garage and get the
part number for you.  Looks pretty generic to me.  The one I got slips
over 3/8" steel line.
Brett
>No sock.....I don't like socks, they plug up :-)  Unfortunately they are
not
>replaceable, no one carries even a generic or one size fits all sock
that
>I've been able to find so you pull it off, replace the end of the pickup
>with some brake line so you can get to the bottom of the tank then put a
>really good filter in front of the pump.
>Happily Totally Retired,
>Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
>78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)
>>  The problem may lay in the "sock" in the tank however....

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Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 21:52:55 -0500
From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Remove fan from 300?

Simple question: how do I remove the fan from a 1981 300 engine?

I have a 300 that I'm prepping to replace the 240 in my '66 Club Wagon. The
fan on the 300 is bent and I'd like to replace the water pump. This fan is
different from early ones that I've encountered. It's not like most I've
seen that have 4 or 5 bolts holding it to the snout of the water pump.  It
has a ring of small fins in front of the fan itself and has a small flat
metal clip on the very end that I removed, and there is a screw that turns
but does not come out. I don't have a shop manual that covers the 300 so
please help me out.

Thanks,
don

Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA
FCA Keystone Chapter Internet Director
61 Falcon Futura, 66 Falcon Club Wagon and classic scooters



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Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 19:36:52 -0800
From: Tim Bowman <tkbowman qwest.net>
Subject: Re: one more saved

Stu:

I thought of you at a swap meet over the weekend when I saw a Mercury
wide box tailgate.  I remembered you had the 68 F100 that you're
"restomoding".

You probably saw my posts earlier that I found and bought a 56 F100
project truck.  Pictures of the beginning project are on my website
below.  I've got a MII front end to install but am leaning to a Fatman
unit so that I don't have to split the crossmember.  The Mopar (Volare,
Cordoba, etc.) seem to be beefier in my estimation; and I've not checked
out the Aerostar suggestion that Steve gave me.  I understand that
there's even a Dodge Dakota conversion now available.

For the prostreet option you want, there are some pretty awesome rear
clips that can be installed.  Check out www.artmorrison.com and go to
the prostreet truck page.

Tim Bowman
Burien, WA
tkbowman qwest.net
Website: www.users.qwest.net/~tkbowman
  (Pacific NW Carshow Information & more)

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From: BRussAZ aol.com
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 23:00:07 EST
Subject: Re: Remove fan from 300?

In a message dated 11/6/00 6:59:08 PM Pacific Standard Time,
haring fedora.net writes:

<< I have a 300 that I'm prepping to replace the 240 in my '66 Club Wagon.  >>

Hey Don,
How do you know you have a 300?  Maybe you missed my intro post.  I am
planning to replace my 240 in my 65 truck with a 300 but want to make sure I
get a 300.  Any external identifying marks/ID to let me know its a 300?
thanx in advance.

Bill


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From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
Subject: Re: emissions
Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:51:40 -0900

Well, if you have a napa around they can get them, or if you have an AC
Delco parts dealer or warehouse around, they like to stock the A.I.R. tubes
as well, so check one of these two places.
Keith
71 F250 4x4
-----Original Message-----


>Sorry in advance for another emissions-related post, but...
>
>I am piecing together an emissions system for a '79 f250 supercab w/460.
>(the original system was removed and discarded by PO, but is required for
>inspection purposes).  I've been unable to find an air injection tube
(metal
>tube, 3/8"-1/2" dia., bolts to rear of both heads).  Anybody know where I
>might acquire one of these?  The local ford dealer says he might be able to
>locate one for me, but at a price I'd like to avoid. :)
>TIA for your help.
>
>-Randy
>
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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 06:52:53 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: 3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?

Hey all

I have a detroit locker that is coming out of a 78, 3.54, D60 and going
in a 79, 4.10, D60 (both rear diffs). Will this carrier fit with 4.10's?
Just wondering exactly where the crossover is?


                       Thanks

                            OX

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:10:26 -0800
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: 3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?

>Hey all
>
>  I have a detroit locker that is coming out of a 78, 3.54, D60 and going
>in a 79, 4.10, D60 (both rear diffs). Will this carrier fit with 4.10's?
>Just wondering exactly where the crossover is?

The carriers change from 4.10 to 4.56.  Not sure if there is a gear
in between or not but 3.54 and 4.10 should use the same carrier
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:34:58 -0500
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 3.54 carrier in 4.10 D60 rear?



Don Grossman wrote:
>
> >Hey all
> >
> >  I have a detroit locker that is coming out of a 78, 3.54, D60 and going
> >in a 79, 4.10, D60 (both rear diffs). Will this carrier fit with 4.10's?
> >Just wondering exactly where the crossover is?
>
> The carriers change from 4.10 to 4.56.  Not sure if there is a gear
> in between or not but 3.54 and 4.10 should use the same carrier
> --

OK, thanks. Most I should have to do is maybe mess with is backlash.
That is what I was hoping to hear :-).


> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com
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--
78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44
boggers, 9" lift
79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5
SX's, 4"lift
79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift
86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)

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From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon ussynthetic.com>
Subject: Re: emissions
Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:41:47 -0700

Nope- tried a couple of napa stores and AC delco stores, but no luck.  There
are tubes available for some of the other engines, but not the 460.

-----Original Message-----

Well, if you have a napa around they can get them, or if you have an AC
Delco parts dealer or warehouse around, they like to stock the A.I.R. tubes
as well, so check one of these two places.
Keith
71 F250 4x4


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