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61-79-list Digest Wed, 01 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 321

In This Issue:
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: SWMBO
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: SWMBO
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: Subject: Dual Point Distributor
Offset grind in 429/460
Re: Dual Point Distributor
Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer?
Re: Steering (Again!)
Re: Steering (Again!)
what cfm?
Re: what cfm?
Re: Update and weld question.
Q-jets for Fords
Re: dizzy fix
Re: Q-jets for Fords
Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)
Re: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)
Re: what cfm?
Re: what cfm?
dual 4 barrels
Re: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)
Re: SWMBO

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From: daves8 juno.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:17:55 -0700
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor

No offense taken, Jason.

Gene, if you don't know for sure that this distributor is the one you
want, then you probably don't want it.

Before electronic ignition, dual points were used to increase the dwell
and therefore, the spark duration, without increasing point float at high
rpm's.  Electronic ignition does the same thing with virtually zero
maintenance.

This distributor has mechanical advance only.  Cruising around town the
only way you get advance is to kick the rpm's up.  You get no advance by
stepping on the gas because it's got no vacuum advance -- basically it's
for racing purposes only.  That means that your bottom-end torque
suffers.

I would not recommend using this distributor on the steet.

If anybody wants a Mallory dual-point distributor for an FE engine, it's
for sale but Gene has first right of refusal for now.

Dave
Arvada, Colorado


On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:00 -0600 "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
writes:
> Gene, as a boating and motorcycle enthusiast, let me say that two sets
of
> points take twice as long to set. I have nothing against points, and
even
> may switch my '70 F100 back to them. It's just that an electronic is
> virtually maintanance free, and will provide many, many miles of
trouble
> free driving. Personally, I would hold out for an electronic system.
> No offense, Dave!
> Jason Kendrick
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> gene baker wrote;
>
> > I am thinking about purchasing this (points) distributor from
Dave.........
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From: "gene baker" <bakergene hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:48:21 CST

OK
Thanks for the explanation Dave, and you are right this isnt what I want to
put in my truck. I will probably go with a full electronics setup.
Any suggestions as to which ones would work with the type of adventure I am
planning?
Thanks in advance,
Gene
bakergene hotmail.com


>From: daves8 juno.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Dual Point Distributor
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:17:55 -0700
>
>No offense taken, Jason.
>
>Gene, if you don't know for sure that this distributor is the one you
>want, then you probably don't want it.
>
>Before electronic ignition, dual points were used to increase the dwell
>and therefore, the spark duration, without increasing point float at high
>rpm's.  Electronic ignition does the same thing with virtually zero
>maintenance.
>
>This distributor has mechanical advance only.  Cruising around town the
>only way you get advance is to kick the rpm's up.  You get no advance by
>stepping on the gas because it's got no vacuum advance -- basically it's
>for racing purposes only.  That means that your bottom-end torque
>suffers.
>
>I would not recommend using this distributor on the steet.
>
>If anybody wants a Mallory dual-point distributor for an FE engine, it's
>for sale but Gene has first right of refusal for now.
>
>Dave
>Arvada, Colorado
>
>
>On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:00 -0600 "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
>writes:
> > Gene, as a boating and motorcycle enthusiast, let me say that two sets
>of
> > points take twice as long to set. I have nothing against points, and
>even
> > may switch my '70 F100 back to them. It's just that an electronic is
> > virtually maintanance free, and will provide many, many miles of
>trouble
> > free driving. Personally, I would hold out for an electronic system.
> > No offense, Dave!
> > Jason Kendrick
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > gene baker wrote;
> >
> > > I am thinking about purchasing this (points) distributor from
>Dave.........
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From: daves8 juno.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:58:14 -0700
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor

Gene, I don't know what a Pertronix system is, so I couldn't help you
with your question.  I'm sure it'll be easy to find an electronic
ignition system that will work fine on your application.

Is the Pertronix just an ignition coil?

Dave

On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:48:21 CST "gene baker" <bakergene hotmail.com>
writes:
> OK
> Thanks for the explanation Dave, and you are right this isnt what I
want to
> put in my truck. I will probably go with a full electronics setup.
> Any suggestions as to which ones would work with the type of adventure
I am
> planning?

You wrote earlier....."I would like to have one I can convert to a
Pertronix type system. This will
be going on a 450 horse 390, that I hope to install the Holley TBI
injection
setup on also. Do you think this will work with this distributor??"
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From: Bad4dFilly aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:01:56 EST
Subject: Re: SWMBO

In a message dated 11/1/00 9:22:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
JUMPINFORD aol.com writes:

<< however I'm stumped as to the translation of SWMBO. >>

<<That one had me too, its She who must be Obeyed, AKA, the Wife, AKA, the
girlfriend, and in some instances, I Imagine even mom would fit.

Darrell & Tweety>>

You know it Darrell! *wink* Believe me, my mom is the one who wears the pants
in the family cuz SHE is the one who owns the truck! =)

*~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*

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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:07:05 -0600

no, it's a little module on a steel plate that replaces where the points are
screwed into the distributor. A plastic ring goes around the nut on top of
the dist. shaft that has magnets in it, they create the magnetic field that
is picked up by the module.

-----Original Message-----
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Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Dual Point Distributor


Gene, I don't know what a Pertronix system is, so I couldn't help you
with your question.  I'm sure it'll be easy to find an electronic
ignition system that will work fine on your application.

Is the Pertronix just an ignition coil?

Dave

On Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:48:21 CST "gene baker" <bakergene hotmail.com>
writes:
> OK
> Thanks for the explanation Dave, and you are right this isnt what I
want to
> put in my truck. I will probably go with a full electronics setup.
> Any suggestions as to which ones would work with the type of adventure
I am
> planning?

You wrote earlier....."I would like to have one I can convert to a
Pertronix type system. This will
be going on a 450 horse 390, that I hope to install the Holley TBI
injection
setup on also. Do you think this will work with this distributor??"
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:11:30 EST
Subject: Re: SWMBO


In a message dated 11/2/00 3:03:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Bad4dFilly aol.com
writes:


> <<That one had me too, its She who must be Obeyed, AKA, the Wife, AKA, the
> girlfriend, and in some instances, I Imagine even mom would fit.
>
> Darrell & Tweety>>
>
> You know it Darrell! *wink* Believe me, my mom is the one who wears the
> pants
> in the family cuz SHE is the one who owns the truck! =)
>
> *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~*
>

I must say that in some instances, Lisa qualifies as one of my SWMBO's.

Darrell & Tweety



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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:29:15 -0600

Gene, Ford's Duraspark is a good system, although you have to have an
external ingnition module. The Pertronics system fits entirely under the
cap. There are no external parts, except a new wire running to the coil. It
sounds like a very good system and I've heard no complaints from anyone
using it.
Jason Kendrick

> Any suggestions as to which ones would work with the type of adventure I
am
> planning?




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From: "JOHN    HELLDORFER" <john96mom worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Subject: Dual Point Distributor
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:53:33 -0800

Gene,  You can get a Pertronix module for the early Dual Point Ford Dist!!

>>>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pertronix.com/ignitor.htm<<<

I think you will be pleased. AND you can go back to dual point if you want
to.

__JOHN__


Subject: Dual Point Distributor
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:37:26 CST

>>>>Ok,
I read all you guys e-mails, but hardly ever speak up, but I have a kinda
stupid question.
I am thinking about purchasing this distributor from Dave (on the list) and
I want to know if this will work for what I have in mind (see below)?


You are aware that this is a dual-point distributor and not electronic,
right?
So is this a good distributor to have or what??
I would like to have one I can convert to a Pertronix type system. This will
be going on a 450 horse 390, that I hope to install the Holley TBI injection
setup on also. Do you think this will work with this distributor??

Thanks,
Gene<<<<



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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Offset grind in 429/460
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 22:04:12 -0600


HPguy writes:  >>I will want one of the earlier 460's, the ones without the offset grind
on the crank.<<

To the best of my knowledge no 429 or 460 has an offset grind crankshaft from the
factory..  Maybe aftermarket for some really big cubic inches, but not factory....

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:37:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor

Gene,
Save your money. Don't buy a dual point distributer.
They are hard to set up and keep adjusted. They are
not as good as any electronic out there. Just take a
stock single point unit and install the Pertronix
setup. A Duraspark unit is even a better choice, and
you won't have to do anything to it. Then all you'll
need is a decent coil and Multi-spark unit to light
that 390.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


>From: "gene baker" <bakergene hotmail.com>
>Subject: Dual Point Distributor
>Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:37:26 CST

>I want to know if this will work for what I have in
>mind (see below)?


>You are aware that this is a dual-point distributor
>and not electronic, right?
>So is this a good distributor to have or what??
>I would like to have one I can convert to a Pertronix
>type system. This will be going on a 450 horse 390,
>that I hope to install the Holley TBI injection
>setup on also. Do you think this will work with this
>distributor??

>Thanks,
>Gene


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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:51:54 -0800 (PST)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer?

Bill,

I am using a fluid damper that I bought for a
Cleveland on my 400. My engine was balanced with that
damper. Summit sells the same fluid damper for 260
thru 400 through 1981, 351W thru 1993. '82 and up 5.0L
are another number and 429/460 are a third.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V

>From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
>Subject: Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer?
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:57:19 -0800>>

>I'd take it a step further and say that if you were
to >have the 400 crank assembly (flywheel/flexplate,
>crank, balancer) balanced with a 351M balancer then
>I'll bet everything would be hunky dory right up
>through the RPM
>range.
>FWIW Fluidampr lists a single part # for the 351M/400
>series motors.  Don't know if it's the nature of the
>damper i.e. fluid or what.


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From: "Dave Emerick" <djemerick hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Steering (Again!)
Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 23:56:03 EST

>From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
>Subject: Re: Steering (Again!)
>Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:39:11 -0900


>--Well dave, If you dont have the front axle and such from the 78-79 >just
>stop your project right there, if you just do a straight conversion, >you
>will notice a 78-79 has the cross member that angles back and sits >back
>about 8 inches farther on the driver side then the passenger. The >problem
>you are going to run into is that you will have to chop the top off >of
>your
>cross member to make the steering box sit flush so the pitman doesnt >hit
>the
>springs when you turn or if you off road at all. There are two ways I >have
>seen to make the conversion work. The first is use a '70 2wd power
> >steering
>box, have the springs rearched and add a spring to make the front sit
> >higher
>so if the spring flexes it wont snap the pitman. The Second way is to >use
>an
>End of the Frame mounting Dodge Saginaw box, and use a drop pitman >that
>will
>allow it to clear the springs. Also, you will probably want to have a >few
>friends around and  a few days to do this,
>preferably sober, so you can work them hard, then give them the beer >so
>they
>forget what a jerk you were 6 hours ago :o)
>Best of luck to ya,
>Keith
>71 F250 4x4

Thanks for the insight Keith.....now I'm confused....

I've been following this list for quite some time, and read the tech article
on this conversion.  On the list, I've read it's a fairly straight
conversion...and now your telling me it's not.  Who do I  believe? :)

When time permits, I'm willing to mock up the assembly on the truck (it's in
a thousand pieces in the garage)....as soon as I figure out where to mount
the box, and figure out the pitman arm swing.

Dave
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From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
Subject: Re: Steering (Again!)
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:04:43 -0900



>
>Thanks for the insight Keith.....now I'm confused....
>
>I've been following this list for quite some time, and read the tech
article
>on this conversion.  On the list, I've read it's a fairly straight
>conversion...and now your telling me it's not.  Who do I  believe? :)
>
>When time permits, I'm willing to mock up the assembly on the truck (it's
in
>a thousand pieces in the garage)....as soon as I figure out where to mount
>the box, and figure out the pitman arm swing.
>
>Dave
>_________________________________________________________________________
Ok Dave,
The tech article is fine and dandy if you have a pretty boy truck that will
stay on paved roads all the time and never do any major work and never go
off road, then that is your fix. If you plan to do any of the afore
mentioned activities, stop and think about what actually cutting on that
cross member, the only one between the bumper and mid frame, is going to do
to your structural support. You are taking a C frame and making it an L by
welding on the other plate to make it flush. If you have the time, stop and
look around take your time and study it out. Look at other trucks, in
particular, the 72-74 Dodge truck style, as well as the 83-88ish range of
the F350 4x4 and see if you cant come up with a better idea then cutting on
your frame.
Good luck
Keith



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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 01:55:07 -0500
From: John Borek <jpb222 psu.edu>
Subject: what cfm?

I have a 1976 f-100 with a stock 302 2V with dual exhaust and an
automatic.  I bought a edelbrock performer 289 4V intake for cheap and
would like to know what carb to get for it.  Would a 500 cfm 4V
edelbrock be too big?

thanks,
John


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: what cfm?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 02:58:39 -0800

I would think 500 would work for a 302.  Many 2v, 2300 Holleys are actually
500 cfm but since the carb's total cfm is measured with all venturis fully
open the primaries on the 500 cfm 4v are actually smaller giving better low
end performance on the street but the 302, 2v may be smaller than that,
probably is in fact.  There is also a 390 cfm but this may be too small if
you want lots of top end, not really too sure on that one.

Happily Totally Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> I have a 1976 f-100 with a stock 302 2V with dual exhaust and an
> automatic.  I bought a edelbrock performer 289 4V intake for cheap and
> would like to know what carb to get for it.  Would a 500 cfm 4V
> edelbrock be too big?



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Update and weld question.
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:32:57 -0800

The punkin in the 9" is made of the same material as the Dana and the tubes
are fully welded in it.  They can be welded with some care but it is true
that without trussing the welds will probably not do any good and may weaken
it.  I welded mine because it was leaking between the tubes and housing but
I also welded in a very substantial truss.  I used a lot of pre and post
heat on the welds as well as peening and there are no cracks as yet but I
don't beat mine up either.  I was planning to use traditional high nickle
rod (#375) but working with the material I decided that it resembled steel
enough to try my wire welder on it.  I did the whole thing with my wire
welder.

I would recommend not welding it but highly recommend a good truss.  Mine is
3/4" square stock welded all along the outer forging at the axle knuckle and
run in the groove in the casting of the housing.  My next one will be 7/8 or
3/4 round stock which will fit the groove perfectly and require no welding
to secure it to the housing.  I won't weld the tubes unless it becomes
necessary to keep the oil in.  I'm still not convinced that welding the
tubes in is a good idea.

Happily Totally Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to
the
> center section ... I told him it wasn't really necessary since the truck
is
> mostly street driven, and frankly I'm too big a wuss to be jumping it ...
but
> now I'm thinking it might be extra insurance ...



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From: "Desanto, Phillip" <pdesanto Cinergy.com>
Subject: Q-jets for Fords
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:47:12 -0500


From: "Ballinger" <ballingr sbmu.net>
Subject: Rochester Q-jet for a Ford
  <<<Snipped>>>
They put them on the '70-'71 429CJ.
Tuning them is really no harder than any other carb if you choose the right
carb for the application to begin with.  Use a pre-75 carb from a Cadillac,
Buick,  Pontiac or Olds and you will already be close.  The numbers to look
for break down as follows:......................<<Snipped>>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Thanx Bill !    I'll have to keep that one folded up in my wallet for the
next swap meet. I never knew those Rochester numbers were that easy to
decipher. I'm planning on trying one on my 64 when it's done, along with an
Autolite 4100 and a Holley 600.  (one at a time though ! :-) Thanx again!
Phil

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: dizzy fix
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:45:23 -0800

The roll pin is a key and stays in till you get the "Rotor" pried off.  It
can be pried off with two screw drivers unless it's rusted on.  Be carefull
not to damage the aluminum housing or wires when you pry.  I have two long
stout wood handled screw drivers I use for this.  I put them opposed to each
other and pry together.

If you get to the mechanical advance springs, be careful not to lose them or
bend the tabs.  It's very difficult to get it back where it belongs and the
springs usually can not be easily duplicated.  0.0005" difference in the
wire size will change the curve enough that it won't run right.  (Don't ask
how I discovered this)

Happily Totally Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> I see that the "gear" (for lack of a better term) for the electronic
pickup
> has a rollpin in it, and won't move with a little prying action.  Do I
need
> a puller to get that off, or does it even have to come off?  What is


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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 03:50:50 EST
Subject: Re: Q-jets for Fords


In a message dated 11/2/00 8:48:46 AM !!!First Boot!!!, pdesanto Cinergy.com
writes:


> Thanx Bill !    I'll have to keep that one folded up in my wallet for the
> next swap meet. I never knew those Rochester numbers were that easy to
> decipher. I'm planning on trying one on my 64 when it's done, along with an
> Autolite 4100 and a Holley 600.


Wheres the fun in that?  I imagine some sort of tripple mismatched 4 barrel
setup would be pretty damned cool.  Maybe Im just wierd.

Darrell & Tweety



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Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:23:21 -0800 (PST)
From: Paul Rozell <prozell yahoo.com>
Subject: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)

To the awesome Brain trust of the lists ;),
A little background before the questions. I currently live in Oklahoma which is not known for Snow
or other cold weather anomalies that much of the northern part of the country experiences, and now
I am moving to Colorado for a new job. My question to the list is this, is a 4x4 truck a necessity
in Colorado?!?!? Would a Dually handle the snow very well?? are there any other suggestions that
anyone on the list could give to help me prepare for the transition between a very mild climate to
one that tends to be a little colder?!?!?!

Any tips and or help is highly appreciated.

Sincerely,
Paul
65 F100 460 C6
96 F150 5.0 (not 4 wheel, might sell)

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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:34:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)

> Would a Dually handle the snow very well??

They do okay, but I think its more the sheer weight of the truck aspect and
the fact that they usually have trac-lok or a locker in them that helps out
... a 4x4 isn't a necessity unless you want to go play in the snow a lot, even
then there's a lot of fun to be had in 2wd, just can't get into as much trouble
:)

If you're handy at driving a 2wd and want to give it a shot, I'd say go for
it ... a lot of the farmers around here are of the mind "Twice the traction,
twice as stuck" and the buy their 4x2's ...

> are there any
> other suggestions that
>anyone on the list could give to help me prepare for the transition between
a very mild climate to
>one that tends to be a little colder?!?!?!
>

Put on some good snow tires, and a couple of sand tubes in the back ... don't
rush when its nasty weather as you'll just create more problems for yourself
and others ... and don't follow too closely either ... just 'cause you can go
doesn't mean you can stop all the time ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 13:40:35 GMT
Subject: Re: what cfm?

>I have a 1976 f-100 with a stock 302 2V with dual exhaust and an
>automatic.  I bought a edelbrock performer 289 4V intake for cheap and
>would like to know what carb to get for it.  Would a 500 cfm 4V
>edelbrock be too big?
>

That's probably right about perfect for a 302 with only minor upgrades.

Gary mentioned the ratings of the various 2V and 4V carbs, but those are measured
at different pressures too, so a 2V that flows 500cfm won't really flow quite
as much as a 4V tha flows 500cfm in the "real world" ... I may have that backwards,
but that seems right from what I remember...

I think the best carbs they put on the 289's were only like 460cfm or something
...

Just my $.02
wish

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 08:41:12 -0600
Subject: Re: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> I am moving to Colorado for a new job. My question to the list is this, is
> a 4x4 truck a necessity
> in Colorado?!?!? Would a Dually handle the snow very well??

This is what I have heard, not experience:

A 4X4 is not a necessity, but is darned nice to have. A traction loc in the
hands of experience would probably suffice.

I have been told that duallies "float" on snow. A dually crew cab is a
nightmare. The long wheelbase is more difficult to handle and not as
versatile. BTDT.

If it was me, I'd go for a 4X4 Bronco.

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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:03:21 -0800
From: Negative Image <negativeimage earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: what cfm?

John,
I put the same edelbrock intake (performer 289) on my cougar. i dropped a
600cfm on it. it bogs down every-now-and-then.... but performs really
well. that's with the stock 302 cam.

John Borek wrote:

> I have a 1976 f-100 with a stock 302 2V with dual exhaust and an
> automatic.  I bought a edelbrock performer 289 4V intake for cheap and
> would like to know what carb to get for it.  Would a 500 cfm 4V
> edelbrock be too big?
>
> thanks,
> John
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Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 09:06:36 -0800
From: Negative Image <negativeimage earthlink.net>
Subject: dual 4 barrels

I'm looking at putting dual 4 barrel carbs on my 65 stepside. does
anyone know where to get a intake for a 1970 351c that will allow me to
put two carbs on it???

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Andrew Rolfsen
1965 Ford F100 Flare Side 351c
1968 Mercury Cougar 302
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From: daves8 juno.com
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 09:15:33 -0700
Subject: Re: Move to Colorado (Ford Truck Recomendations)

Paul.

I've lived in Colorado for 38 years and driven here for 31.

We have tons of duallies here -- they're a little slicker on the snow but
everybody still gets by.  4wd is not necessary -- a set of chains will do
fine if things get really bad.  In 31 years, I've had to chain up twice.

I'd much rather face a little snow on the road every so often than your
Oklahoma ice storms.

What part of Colorado are you going to?  That will make a difference.

Dave Schoenberg
Denver

On Thu, 2 Nov 2000 05:23:21 -0800 (PST) Paul Rozell <prozell yahoo.com>
writes:
> To the awesome Brain trust of the lists ;),
> A little background before the questions. I currently live in
> Oklahoma which is not known for Snow
> or other cold weather anomalies that much of the northern part of
> the country experiences, and now
> I am moving to Colorado for a new job. My question to the list is
> this, is a 4x4 truck a necessity
> in Colorado?!?!? Would a Dually handle the snow very well?? are
> there any other suggestions that
> anyone on the list could give to help me prepare for the transition
> between a very mild climate to
> one that tends to be a little colder?!?!?!

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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: SWMBO
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 10:37:44 -0600

>
> In a message dated 11/2/00 3:03:30 AM !!!First Boot!!!, Bad4dFilly aol.com
> writes:
>
> ....


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