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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 20:04:57 -0500 (EST) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #320 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Wed, 01 Nov 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 320 In This Issue: Re: oil spitting exhaust Re: Steering (Again!) Re: Bottom tabs on 78 Bumper Update and weld question. Re: Bottom tabs on 78 Bumper Re: Update and weld question. dizzy fix Re: Update and weld question. Re: Steering (Again!) Re: Update and weld question. Re: Steering (Again!) Re: Update and weld question. Re: Update and weld question. Re: Update and weld question. Dual Point Distributor Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer? Re: Update and weld question. Re: Dual Point Distributor Re: Update and weld question. 429/460 Re: Steering (Again!) D60 front? Re: Steering (Again!) D60 front? D60 front? Re: 429/460 Re: 429/460 Re: oil spitting exhaust Re: D60 front? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "wish" <wish Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:47:26 GMT Subject: Re: oil spitting exhaust >If your exhaust exits straight out at horizontal, the dispersion rate >probably scatters the spots so that you don't notice. But if your exhaust >turns down and you are on concrete, you will almost always get a black >splatter spot on your drive where you first crank the cold engine. > >In short, some splatter is normal IMHO. Hope this helps. > You should see the back wall of the garages where we store our cars for the winter ... we back the cars in all the time and there are some pretty good carbon marks behind the hotter ones ... the Cougar with its straight pointing rear pipes and hopped up 351 has a pair of nice spots on the wall behind it ... every car we've stored, even my fuel injected Mustang, but to a lesser extent) has done this. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Dave Emerick" <djemerick Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 13:37:28 EST >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:38:21 -0500 >From: David Wadson <wadsond >Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) >Hi all..... > >I asked over the weekend, but received no response....so I'll ask again ! > >Does anyone have any diagrams of the '78/79 F250 4x4 steering set-up? >My two Ford truck manuals show nothing... >Which manuals are you referring to? The Ford factory shop manuals? >Also, >what exactly are you interested in. I skimmed through my manual but >it >doesn't have one complete diagram of an F250 4x4 setup - tends to >have >multiple diagrams showing different areas but no one complete >diagram >showing the entire front end... >David Wadson - wadsond >"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces. >"PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking. >"PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into... >Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada I am specifically looking how the later steering box (78-79), pitman arm, and drag link are mounted on these trucks. I've got the '75 ram assist, and have found a later box,and arm but am not sure how the box and pitman arm, and drag link are situated to the frame... it's great to read how to convert the older assist styles, but having not seen how the steering was set-up on the original truck, makes it mighty difficult to guess....hence, would like diagrams/pictures of how these components are mounted to give me a point of reference. It doesn't have to be a complete steering set-up... a couple individual diagrams would be great showing the box mounting, and swing of the pitman arm. That's it ! Thanks ! Dave _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 Subject: Re: Bottom tabs on 78 Bumper Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:37:43 GMT <snip> I remember awhile back, someone asked what the holed tabs were for on the bottom of their front bumper. While tearing apart a 78 F-250, I stumbled on the answer. There are small strut braces that go from these hole to the frame. On this truck, its at the forward sway bar mounting hole. Just thought Id pass this along. Darrell & Tweety <snip> That was me, thanks Darrell. The '78 F100 that I got the bumper off of didn't have these braces that you talk about, not even any evidence of a bolt ever in the holes. May be it was a F250 thing... Thanks any ways, my curiosity is satisfied for now... Marty _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:43:15 GMT Subject: Update and weld question. Well, dunno how many of you have been following the axle swap on my truck, but its made some major headway in the last week. I got the axle clear out from under the truck (the old one) and dropped off the new and old one to be sand blasted (just the new one of course) ... they're switching a known good set of gears in as well. This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to the center section ... I told him it wasn't really necessary since the truck is mostly street driven, and frankly I'm too big a wuss to be jumping it ... but now I'm thinking it might be extra insurance ... what do you guys think, weld it up or just leave it the way the factory did ? Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Re: Bottom tabs on 78 Bumper Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:47:29 -0600 I don't see any bolts on my f-250.... so hmmm <snip> > > That was me, thanks Darrell. The '78 F100 that I got the bumper off of > didn't have these braces that you talk about, not even any evidence of a > bolt ever in the holes. May be it was a F250 thing... > > Thanks any ways, my curiosity is satisfied for now... > > Marty > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. > > Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Re: Update and weld question. Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:48:34 -0600 Well is it cost effective? I'd do it just because once in awhile you wanna play, and usualy when you play you beat on your truck a little. -Don > > Well, dunno how many of you have been following the axle swap on my truck, but > its made some major headway in the last week. I got the axle clear out from > under the truck (the old one) and dropped off the new and old one to be sand > blasted (just the new one of course) ... they're switching a known good set > of gears in as well. > > This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to the > center section ... I told him it wasn't really necessary since the truck is > mostly street driven, and frankly I'm too big a wuss to be jumping it ... but > now I'm thinking it might be extra insurance ... > > what do you guys think, weld it up or just leave it the way the factory did > ? > > Just my $.02 > wish > > 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L > 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish > > Ford Truck Enthusiasts > http://www.ford-trucks.com > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 Subject: dizzy fix Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:47:15 GMT I was messing with my Duaraspark dizzy in my '73 390 and noticed that the mechanical advance doesn't move the way I think it should. It will turn a little like it is supposed to, but it doesn't snap back. I am assuming that it is a little gummed up. What is the best way to get in there and clean/lube it up? Spray a healthy amount of WD40 in there and hope I get it? - I don't like doing things that way. I see that the "gear" (for lack of a better term) for the electronic pickup has a rollpin in it, and won't move with a little prying action. Do I need a puller to get that off, or does it even have to come off? What is the best way to go about this? Are there any parts that should be replaced while I have it apart? - pins, bushings, bearings, springs? I'd appreciate any help you could give me. Marty *digest mode* _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Re: Update and weld question. Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:49:07 -0600 More or less i was saying. Is it cheap enough to have done or to just replace the axle again? -Don > > Well, dunno how many of you have been following the axle swap on my truck, but > its made some major headway in the last week. I got the axle clear out from > under the truck (the old one) and dropped off the new and old one to be sand > blasted (just the new one of course) ... they're switching a known good set > of gears in as well. > > This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to the > center section ... I told him it wasn't really necessary since the truck is > mostly street driven, and frankly I'm too big a wuss to be jumping it ... but > now I'm thinking it might be extra insurance ... > > what do you guys think, weld it up or just leave it the way the factory did > ? > > Just my $.02 > wish > > 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L > 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish > > Ford Truck Enthusiasts > http://www.ford-trucks.com > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 10:39:11 -0900 --Well dave, If you dont have the front axle and such from the 78-79 just stop your project right there, if you just do a straight conversion, you will notice a 78-79 has the cross member that angles back and sits back about 8 inches farther on the driver side then the passenger. The problem you are going to run into is that you will have to chop the top off of your cross member to make the steering box sit flush so the pitman doesnt hit the springs when you turn or if you off road at all. There are two ways I have seen to make the conversion work. The first is use a '70 2wd power steering box, have the springs rearched and add a spring to make the front sit higher so if the spring flexes it wont snap the pitman. The Second way is to use an End of the Frame mounting Dodge Saginaw box, and use a drop pitman that will allow it to clear the springs. Also, you will probably want to have a few friends around and a few days to do this, preferably sober, so you can work them hard, then give them the beer so they forget what a jerk you were 6 hours ago :o) Best of luck to ya, Keith 71 F250 4x4 >I am specifically looking how the later steering box (78-79), pitman arm, >and drag link are mounted on these trucks. I've got the '75 ram assist, and >have found a later box,and arm but am not sure how the box and pitman arm, >and drag link are situated to the frame... it's great to read how to convert >the older assist styles, but having not seen how the steering was set-up on >the original truck, makes it mighty difficult to guess....hence, would like >diagrams/pictures of how these components are mounted to give me a point of >reference. It doesn't have to be a complete steering set-up... a couple >individual diagrams would be great showing the box mounting, and swing of >the pitman arm. That's it ! > >Thanks ! > >Dave > > >_________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. > >Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 14:53:06 -0500 From: James Oxley <luxjo Subject: Re: Update and weld question. wish wrote: > > Well, dunno how many of you have been following the axle swap on my truck, but > its made some major headway in the last week. I got the axle clear out from > under the truck (the old one) and dropped off the new and old one to be sand > blasted (just the new one of course) ... they're switching a known good set > of gears in as well. > > This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to the > center section ... I told him it wasn't really necessary since the truck is > mostly street driven, and frankly I'm too big a wuss to be jumping it ... but > now I'm thinking it might be extra insurance ... > > what do you guys think, weld it up or just leave it the way the factory did I jumped my 78 with 32's when it was bone stock about 40 times. Only problem I had was bent front axle from slamming it into the frame ;-). 140,000 mile 9" never whimpered. I'd say why bother, might just distort housing or introduce internal stresses if not done right. If they were trussing it, then I might consider it. For street driving or even fairly heavy duty wheeling, I don't see the point. OX -- 78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44 boggers, 9" lift 79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5 SX's, 4"lift 79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift 86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:10:01 -0500 From: James Oxley <luxjo Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) Here is the basic steering setup, lifted about 7 inches :-). http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/frtsusp.jpg OX -- 78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44 boggers, 9" lift 79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5 SX's, 4"lift 79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift 86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:22:50 EST Subject: Re: Update and weld question. In a message dated 11/1/00 11:40:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, wish << This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to the center section ... >> I've been told that this will actually weaken the axle. Couple of tuff truck guys told me, and they beat the snot out of their rigs,,,,, It has something to do with the center section being cast. The heat from welding crystalizes the surrounding metal. I'd just leave well enough alone. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:33:54 -0500 From: James Oxley <luxjo Subject: Re: Update and weld question. JUMPINFORD > > In a message dated 11/1/00 11:40:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > wish > > << This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to > the > center section ... >> > > I've been told that this will actually weaken the axle. Couple of tuff truck > guys told me, and they beat the snot out of their rigs,,,,, It has something > to do with the center section being cast. The heat from welding crystalizes > the surrounding metal. I'd just leave well enough alone. > Aren't we talking 9" (in other words all sheet metal??) OX > Darrell & Tweety > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- 78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44 boggers, 9" lift 79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5 SX's, 4"lift 79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift 86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 ------------------------------ From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols Subject: Re: Update and weld question. Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:03:58 -0800 9" rears axle tubes are welded all the way around from the factory...aren't they? Josh -----Original Message----- From: James Oxley [mailto:luxjo Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:34 PM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Update and weld question. JUMPINFORD > > In a message dated 11/1/00 11:40:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > wish > > << This all brought up a question ... he wanted to weld up the axle tubes to > the > center section ... >> > > I've been told that this will actually weaken the axle. Couple of tuff truck > guys told me, and they beat the snot out of their rigs,,,,, It has something > to do with the center section being cast. The heat from welding crystalizes > the surrounding metal. I'd just leave well enough alone. > Aren't we talking 9" (in other words all sheet metal??) OX > Darrell & Tweety > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- 78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44 boggers, 9" lift 79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5 SX's, 4"lift 79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift 86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "gene baker" <bakergene Subject: Dual Point Distributor Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 15:37:26 CST Ok, I read all you guys e-mails, but hardly ever speak up, but I have a kinda stupid question. I am thinking about purchasing this distributor from Dave (on the list) and I want to know if this will work for what I have in mind (see below)? You are aware that this is a dual-point distributor and not electronic, right? So is this a good distributor to have or what?? I would like to have one I can convert to a Pertronix type system. This will be going on a 450 horse 390, that I hope to install the Holley TBI injection setup on also. Do you think this will work with this distributor?? Thanks, Gene _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer Subject: Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 13:57:19 -0800 I'd take it a step further and say that if you were to have the 400 crank assembly (flywheel/flexplate, crank, balancer) balanced with a 351M balancer then I'll bet everything would be hunky dory right up through the RPM range. FWIW Fluidampr lists a single part # for the 351M/400 series motors. Don't know if it's the nature of the damper i.e. fluid or what. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fluidampr.com/streetdampr.html#appchart /// Smith & Wesson...the Original point & click interface \\ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch To: <61-79-list Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 8:56 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351M vs. 400- Same Harmonic Balancer? > > Offhand, and pending more research on this, I'd speculate that the 351M and 400 > crankshafts had slightly different balance, but since they both use the same > flywheel and flex plate, the difference was apparently small enough to make it > up with the balancer alone. I'd bet there are a lot of M-blocks out there w/ > the wrong balancers on the front (especially 351Ms rebuilt as 400s) and their > integrity is probably only slightly compromised. The difference might be small > enough to not have much adverse effect in the rpm range most of these engines > operate. ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:59:28 EST Subject: Re: Update and weld question. In a message dated 11/1/00 8:36:33 PM !!!First Boot!!!, luxjo writes: << Aren't we talking 9" (in other words all sheet metal??) >> ohhh yeahh........... Im thinkin Dana axles....... Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: Re: Dual Point Distributor Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:03:00 -0600 Gene, as a boating and motorcycle enthusiast, let me say that two sets of points take twice as long to set. I have nothing against points, and even may switch my '70 F100 back to them. It's just that an electronic is virtually maintanance free, and will provide many, many miles of trouble free driving. Personally, I would hold out for an electronic system. No offense, Dave! Jason Kendrick ----- Original Message ----- gene baker wrote; > I am thinking about purchasing this (points) distributor from Dave (on the list) and > I want to know if this will work for what I have in mind (see below)? ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 21:39:49 GMT Subject: Re: Update and weld question. >>> I've been told that this will actually weaken the axle. Couple of tuff truck >> guys told me, and they beat the snot out of their rigs,,,,, It has something >> to do with the center section being cast. The heat from welding crystalizes >> the surrounding metal. I'd just leave well enough alone. >> > I seem to remember some discussion of this, and that was the first thing that popped into my head when he said to weld it up was "INTERNAL STRESSES!" ... I guess I'll just leave well enough alone then, its been in there for 25+ years, it autta stay a few more :) > Aren't we talking 9" (in other words all sheet metal??) > No, you guys were right the first time ... D44, its a front axle. If you guys know of anyone lookin for some narrowed 44's lemme know, he's got a pair of them with 4.56 gears and moser axles ... I think he meant front and rear by Pair ... set up for coil springs on the front at least ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "HPguy" <HPguy Subject: 429/460 Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:52:23 -0800 Alright; I've found out how to tell a 429/460 from everything else, and I've also found out that since I'm looking to build a BIG Horse engine, I will want one of the earlier 460's, the ones without the offset grind on the crank. I've been told that these earlier 460's have external balancers as opposed to the internal balancers that the later model 460's have. Will it be possible for me to see these external balancers? The engines I will be looking at are not in vehicles, and likely will not have tranny's attached. If it is possible to see the balancers, then what would I be looking for? Thanks! ------------------------------ From: "Bob" <xavetarx Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) D60 front? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 18:10:48 -0500 James, is this a picture of the 78 with the Dana 60 up front? Looks to me like the D44, but those tires look like 44's and isn't that the one with the D60? (Just trying to see what a D60 looks like with the coil mounts) -bob- Here is the basic steering setup, lifted about 7 inches :-). http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/frtsusp.jpg OX ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 19:09:48 -0500 From: James Oxley <luxjo Subject: Re: Steering (Again!) D60 front? Bob wrote: > > James, is this a picture of the 78 with the Dana 60 up front? Yes > Looks to me like the D44, Looks factory, don't it :-) > but those tires look like 44's and isn't that the one with the > D60? (Just trying to see what a D60 looks like with the coil mounts) There it is!! OX ------------------------------ From: "Bob" <xavetarx Subject: D60 front? Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 19:35:15 -0500 Looks factory, don't it :-) > but those tires look like 44's and isn't that the one with the > D60? (Just trying to see what a D60 looks like with the coil mounts) There it is!! ========================================= Sweet, sure does ------------------------------ From: canzus Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 16:52:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: 429/460 At 03:52 PM 01:11:2000 -0800, HPguy wrote: > > I've been told that these earlier 460's have external balancers as opposed to the internal >balancers that the later model 460's have. You've got that bass ackwards, the earlier 385 series engines were *INTERNALLY* balanced, ie; the pre '77 engines are internally balanced, but the '74 and later engines had the camshaft retarded by 4 or so degrees. Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... ------------------------------ From: "George Litton" <r72cnvt Subject: Re: 429/460 Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 01:08:43 GMT HP GUY, Later 460's(called 3Y)have a small counterweight BEHIND the harmo. balancer. These later engines have a different balance than the earlier 2Y engines. Do not be afraid of a 3Y, as they are just fine for all except the most extreme(600+ hp) applications. Mine runs great, and I give it more RPM's than I should on ocassion. The only draw-back is not being able to mix and match, but it sounds like you are going to pick one and rebuild it complete. I have too much junk laying around. I don't know what went where anymore. Have lots of fun with your 385 project, George in Coeur d'Alene, ID >From: "HPguy" <HPguy >Reply-To: 61-79-list >To: <61-79-list >Subject: [61-79-list] 429/460 >Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 15:52:23 -0800 > > >Alright; I've found out how to tell a 429/460 from everything else, and >I've also found out that since I'm looking to build a BIG Horse engine, I >will want one of the earlier 460's, the ones without the offset grind on >the crank. I've been told that these earlier 460's have external balancers >as opposed to the internal balancers that the later model 460's have. Will >it be possible for me to see these external balancers? The engines I will >be looking at are not in vehicles, and likely will not have tranny's >attached. If it is possible to see the balancers, then what would I be >looking for? > >Thanks! > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Andersons" <robertan Subject: Re: oil spitting exhaust Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:46:50 -0500 I'll buy the "dirty water" explanation for the black spots, but if indeed they are oil, as you say, then it's a different deal altogether. My 5-years mothballed 351M did this (with actual engine oil) until I took off the valve covers and scooped out all the gunk that was blocking the oil return holes in the tops of the heads. See, cold, thick oil was backing up inside, and rising to a level where it simply poured into the exhaust valve guides, under the umbrella seals. I was able to completely cure this with a good cleaning. However, 2 weeks later, oil pump died and the rest is history.... ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Cannon <rcannon To: FTE list 61-79 <61-79-list Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: [61-79-list] oil spitting exhaust > > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Glacier > Hello- > > I've noticed oily splatter marks on the sidewalk next to where I my park my > '79 f250 supercab 460. It's obviously coming from the exhaust. I'm curious > what the possible causes of this phenomenon might be? > > Randy > > PS- On a side note, I've learned a lot from subscribing to this list the > last few weeks- thanks. I've also figured out most of the acronyms (IMHO, > POS, TIA, etc...), however I'm stumped as to the translation of SWMBO. > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- > -- Type: image/jpeg > -- File: Glacier Bkgrd.jpg > > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ From: "Charles T." <charlest To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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