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61-79-list Digest Tue, 24 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 309

In This Issue:
Re: Coil spring paint...
Re: Coil spring paint...
Re: Coil spring paint...
'79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Re: Coil spring paint...
Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Re: Coil spring paint...
Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Stu's Back
cracked frame around steering box
Re: cab and box swap
FROM COLE (OFF TOPIC)
ADMIN: Major web site addition
wide ratio C6
64 power steering conversion
Re: leak from rear end
cab and box swap
Re: Coil spring paint...
Re: Coil spring paint...
Fw: Re: Steering Shaft Part Numbers For Upper Universal
Re: Coil spring paint...

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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:35:27 -0700
From: "John MacNamara" <jmacnamara zhone.com>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...

I had a set of coils powder coated and they didn't even have to strip the old
paint off so it can be done.

John

Don Grossman wrote:

> >How about like a rubbery paint.  I can't remember the name of it.  It isn't
> >cheap though.
> >
> >>  Isn't there a special paint type to paint flexible bumpers and the like?
> >  > Perhaps this would work (have no real clue admittedly)...
>
> So I suppose powder coating is out?  I was just going to use cheap
> Rust-o-leum in a rattle can :)
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 12:40:13 -0500

I was thinking of getting my stock wagon wheels powder coated.  How much
does it cost?


> I had a set of coils powder coated and they didn't even have to strip the
old
> paint off so it can be done.
>
> John
>
> Don Grossman wrote:
>
> > >How about like a rubbery paint.  I can't remember the name of it.  It
isn't
> > >cheap though.
> > >
> > >>  Isn't there a special paint type to paint flexible bumpers and the
like?
> > >  > Perhaps this would work (have no real clue admittedly)...
> >
> > So I suppose powder coating is out?  I was just going to use cheap
> > Rust-o-leum in a rattle can :)
> > --
> > Don Grossman
> > duckdon mac.com
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:44:08 -0700
From: "John MacNamara" <jmacnamara zhone.com>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...

Seems to me I spent a little over a $100 but this place is a little pricey but
they do exceptional work so wasn't disappointed in the final product.  I can
email a pic of the springs if you're interested.

John

Don Thurlow wrote:

> I was thinking of getting my stock wagon wheels powder coated.  How much
> does it cost?
>
> > I had a set of coils powder coated and they didn't even have to strip the
> old
> > paint off so it can be done.
> >
> > John
> >
> > Don Grossman wrote:
> >
> > > >How about like a rubbery paint.  I can't remember the name of it.  It
> isn't
> > > >cheap though.
> > > >
> > > >>  Isn't there a special paint type to paint flexible bumpers and the
> like?
> > > >  > Perhaps this would work (have no real clue admittedly)...
> > >
> > > So I suppose powder coating is out?  I was just going to use cheap
> > > Rust-o-leum in a rattle can :)
> > > --
> > > Don Grossman
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:15:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help

Well guys I'm going to need to start drawing on some of your expertise for
my new '79 F-350 4x4.  I got my inspection station to look it over last
week and let me know what it'll need to pass.  Some of the things I
already knew about and some I overlooked when I bought it (to be expected
I guess...)  In any case my first pressing need is to fix the steering.
The steering box is shot (I know this since it alternates hard and easy to
turn depending upon where in the turning radius you are.) and
unfortunately it doesn't look like the same box that I pulled off a '79
Bronco 4x4 as a spare.  The F-350 box mounts inside the frame and has some
sort of dropped pitman arm that connects to another arm that then connects
to the back of the knuckle on the drivers side I believe.  (Sorry for the
lack of technical terms but I'm still really new to all this.  Please feel
free to correct me wherever neccessary.)  The rest of the boxes I've seen
(which admittedly isn't too many) mount outside the frame.

It looks like the second arm is connected to the dropped pitman arm with
some sort of ball-joint that I assume is also bad.  What am I looking at
here in terms ot fixing the steering on this beast?  Does anyone know
where I can find a new steering box for this truck?

Apparently the 4wd and 2wd boxes are different as are the F-350 (1-ton)
vs. Bronco/F-150/F-250 boxes.  Does anyone happen to have one of these
things laying around?  What are my options?  I haven't called my local
salvage places yet since I didn't want ot waste their time if I didn't
know what I needed.  What vehicles came with the same power steering box
as the '79 F-350 4x4?  In my '78 shop manual there is no mention of the
box being different between the F-250 and F-350.  Is it possible I've got
a different box than stock?  Would it be cheaper and easier for me to find
someone to rebuild the box I currently have?

I could probably get a picture taken and scanned in if that would help
people figure out what I'm talking about.

So what are my options here?  Am I screwed or is this just gonna cost me
an arm and leg to fix?

Later,

Eric Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress)
'79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"
'95 Mustang GT "Beauty" (Good weather daily driver)


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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:25:29 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...

>I was thinking of getting my stock wagon wheels powder coated.  How much
>does it cost?
>
A friend just had a set done $35 a wheel
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:28:09 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help



Eric Finn wrote:
>
> Well guys I'm going to need to start drawing on some of your expertise for
> my new '79 F-350 4x4.  I got my inspection station to look it over last
> week and let me know what it'll need to pass.  Some of the things I
> already knew about and some I overlooked when I bought it (to be expected
> I guess...)  In any case my first pressing need is to fix the steering.
> The steering box is shot (I know this since it alternates hard and easy to
> turn depending upon where in the turning radius you are.) and
> unfortunately it doesn't look like the same box that I pulled off a '79
> Bronco 4x4 as a spare.  The F-350 box mounts inside the frame and has some
> sort of dropped pitman arm that connects to another arm that then connects
> to the back of the knuckle on the drivers side I believe.  (Sorry for the
> lack of technical terms but I'm still really new to all this.  Please feel
> free to correct me wherever neccessary.)  The rest of the boxes I've seen
> (which admittedly isn't too many) mount outside the frame.
>
> It looks like the second arm is connected to the dropped pitman arm with
> some sort of ball-joint that I assume is also bad.  What am I looking at
> here in terms ot fixing the steering on this beast?  Does anyone know
> where I can find a new steering box for this truck?
>
> Apparently the 4wd and 2wd boxes are different as are the F-350 (1-ton)
> vs. Bronco/F-150/F-250 boxes.  Does anyone happen to have one of these
> things laying around?  What are my options?  I haven't called my local
> salvage places yet since I didn't want ot waste their time if I didn't
> know what I needed.  What vehicles came with the same power steering box
> as the '79 F-350 4x4?  In my '78 shop manual there is no mention of the
> box being different between the F-250 and F-350.  Is it possible I've got
> a different box than stock?  Would it be cheaper and easier for me to find
> someone to rebuild the box I currently have?
>
> I could probably get a picture taken and scanned in if that would help
> people figure out what I'm talking about.
>
> So what are my options here?  Am I screwed or is this just gonna cost me
> an arm and leg to fix?
>

If you find a used box in good shape, grab it. The box is the same on
F250/350. Only 78/79 broncs use the oddball box. Price should be less
for a rebuilt, since it was not the oddball 2 year box. the bronc boxes
are 300$, I'd expect the F250/350 box to be at least 200$.

                                          OX


> Later,
>
> Eric Finn
> '78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress)
> '79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"
> '95 Mustang GT "Beauty" (Good weather daily driver)
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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:37:17 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help

The boxes are different from the Bronco-F150 and the F-250.  I can
send a pic of the F-250 box that I have if that will help but the
F-250 and 350 should be the same ( just talking 4x4 here).

You have the steering box (are you sure it is bad or is it the
balljoints on the  draglink) Next is the pitman arm, thats connected
to the draglink, thats connected to the steering arm, thats connected
to the knuckle, thats connected to the.... you get the picture:)

Before going into the steering box check the knuckles, draglinks
everything else.  A blown out knuckle bearing could show the same
symptoms.

Good luck
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer pacifier.com>
Subject: Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 11:44:11 -0700

Before you step up & buy the box try something first. I had what sounds to
me like exactly the same problem with my 79 F-250 4X4. Under the hood you
can see the steering shaft from the column to the box. Try lubing the
universal joint in the shaft. I squirted a little WD-40 on mine and it freed
it right up. It turns just like new and that was a year ago.

/// Smith & Wesson...the Original point & click interface \\

----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Finn" <ecfinn yahoo.com>
To: "FTE" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 11:15 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] '79 F-350 4x4 steering help


> Well guys I'm going to need to start drawing on some of your expertise for
> my new '79 F-350 4x4.  I got my inspection station to look it over last
> week and let me know what it'll need to pass.  Some of the things I
> already knew about and some I overlooked when I bought it (to be expected
> I guess...)  In any case my first pressing need is to fix the steering.
> The steering box is shot (I know this since it alternates hard and easy to
> turn depending upon where in the turning radius you are.) and
> unfortunately it doesn't look like the same box that I pulled off a '79
> Bronco 4x4 as a spare.  The F-350 box mounts inside the frame and has some
> sort of dropped pitman arm that connects to another arm that then connects
> to the back of the knuckle on the drivers side I believe.  (Sorry for the
> lack of technical terms but I'm still really new to all this.  Please feel
> free to correct me wherever neccessary.)  The rest of the boxes I've seen
> (which admittedly isn't too many) mount outside the frame.
>
> It looks like the second arm is connected to the dropped pitman arm with
> some sort of ball-joint that I assume is also bad.  What am I looking at
> here in terms ot fixing the steering on this beast?  Does anyone know
> where I can find a new steering box for this truck?
>
> Apparently the 4wd and 2wd boxes are different as are the F-350 (1-ton)
> vs. Bronco/F-150/F-250 boxes.  Does anyone happen to have one of these
> things laying around?  What are my options?  I haven't called my local
> salvage places yet since I didn't want ot waste their time if I didn't
> know what I needed.  What vehicles came with the same power steering box
> as the '79 F-350 4x4?  In my '78 shop manual there is no mention of the
> box being different between the F-250 and F-350.  Is it possible I've got
> a different box than stock?  Would it be cheaper and easier for me to find
> someone to rebuild the box I currently have?
>
> I could probably get a picture taken and scanned in if that would help
> people figure out what I'm talking about.
>
> So what are my options here?  Am I screwed or is this just gonna cost me
> an arm and leg to fix?
>
> Later,
>
> Eric Finn
> '78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress)
> '79 F-350 4x4 "Fred"
> '95 Mustang GT "Beauty" (Good weather daily driver)
>
>
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:14:42 -0500

thanks don
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From: "Don Grossman" <duckdon mac.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 1:25 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Coil spring paint...


> >I was thinking of getting my stock wagon wheels powder coated.  How much
> >does it cost?
> >
> A friend just had a set done $35 a wheel
> --
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From: "John Webster" <jwebster tnt21.com>
Subject: Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 15:36:05 -0400

Someone already mentioned this but after having the identical problem on my
'77 F150 4X4 I can say check your steering shaft universal first. It's easy
and certainly the cheapest of the fixes. My sealed universal was extremely
stiff on one axis and seized on the other. Some oil and a persuader fixed
everything up and the difference was night and day in the steering.
<In any case my first pressing need is to fix the steering.
<The steering box is shot (I know this since it alternates <hard and easy to
<turn depending upon where in the turning radius you are.)

John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's


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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 14:22:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: '79 F-350 4x4 steering help

Don, Ox, Bill, John,

Thanks for the help and suggestions thus far.  I guess I'll need to just
get out and get dirty on this one.  At this point I was strictly basing my
diagnosis on the verbal word from my shop and another opinion.  I'm not
near knowledgable enough to be able to diagnose something like this from
driving it a few times.  It sounds like the universal joint is the first
place I should be looking.  I guess I'll start at the top and work my way
down.

How can I test the various parts of the steering to see where the problem
lies.  I'm sure there are multiple issues but I don't want to just replace
everything if I don't have to.  I can figure out how to test the column
but what about from the pitman arm on down?  How do I test the box
independent from the other parts?

Thanks again!  I probably never would've bought this truck if it wasn't
for the helpful people on this list.

Later,

Eric Finn

--- Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com> wrote:
> The boxes are different from the Bronco-F150 and the F-250.  I can
> send a pic of the F-250 box that I have if that will help but the
> F-250 and 350 should be the same ( just talking 4x4 here).
>
> You have the steering box (are you sure it is bad or is it the
> balljoints on the  draglink) Next is the pitman arm, thats connected
> to the draglink, thats connected to the steering arm, thats connected
> to the knuckle, thats connected to the.... you get the picture:)
>
> Before going into the steering box check the knuckles, draglinks
> everything else.  A blown out knuckle bearing could show the same
> symptoms.
>


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Stu's Back
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 16:58:54 -0500


Stu writes:  >>Football is over and I once again have a life at home in the evenings with
the list again!  Glad to be back<<

Didn't make the playoffs again..Drat!!!  We're all glad to have you back though...

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: cracked frame around steering box
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:03:58 -0400

I took my "new" 79 Bronco in to get it inspected today.  I had noticed the
crack a couple days ago, but figured no one else would, or it wouldn't be a
problem.  Well, the guy at the station called and said he'd all but walked
by and found the crack.  It's a slight crack right in front of the steering
box.  Nothing is broken (yet) and I'm just wondering how I might go about
fixing this problem.  I'm worried because the same guy said his 79 F-150 had
the same exact problem and he sent it out.  $600's later it was fine.  I
don't have $600 and like to do all the work to my truck myself anyway.  I
have a welder and would be able to weld new steel in place.

The problem is, I can't get to the back side of the frame.  On the 79's the
frame is boxed starting at the steering box.  If I were to just add a whole
plate right where the box is, I'd be adding another 1/8-1/4 inch of steel
messing with the steering alignment.  Being a lifted truck, that would be
going in the inopportune, WRONG direction.  If it's all I can do (baring
major frame modification) then I guess it's all I can do.??

Has anyone had this problem before?

-bob-


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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 19:16:37 -0400

I put a Cab and Box from a 78 F150 on my 76 F250.  The frame on my 76 was
narrower than the 78.  I welded some 1" plate metal on top of my frame
rail, pointed them outwards at every bolt hole of the bed.  Burned holes in
the 1 " plate and it works great.  Why couldnt you do the same thing with
your frame only point the plate metal inward towards the centerline?

Rich

> Don Thurlow wrote:

i found a '77 f-150 that's in decent shape, for
> > $300.  Can I swap the cab and the box to my f-250?

Greg wrote
> I don't think it'll work. I just bought a '77 half-ton ... the frame
widens
> out right behind the cab whereas the frame on my '77 F250 does not. Maybe
the
> '79 F250's are different. AFAIK, the cab will fit.
>
> Greg
> '77 F250 Explorer 4x4
> '77 F100 SWB 4x4



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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject:  FROM COLE (OFF TOPIC)
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 21:08:35 -0400

This is my last off topic post about this ( I promise:)
This personal Email was sent to list member Jeff Hansen, forwarded to me,
and alass, I forward to you.  Sorta puts a personal spin on this subject.
I'm sure this is kinda in the grey area of politics which Ken has banned. I
await my fate......

Rich

Subject: FROM COLE

We too are on station and I will be going over there in the morning to
provide a lunch.
I wanted to grill steak for them on their deck,   but there is still too
much oil and fuel, not to
mention every square foot of deck is now their living space, to set up a
grill.  Their requests have been simple,  hot food, cold drinks and dry
coveralls and boots.  The ships here are all taking turns doing their
laundry and cooking their meal.  The Cole's crew has been offered
repeatedly to take R&R on another ship but most have  refused.  They
refuse to leave their ship.  The details of their shipmates having to be
cut from the bulkheads and descriptions and photos of the description
have filtered to our ship.  It is amazing that more were not killed.  It
is equally amazing that it is still afloat.  The keel is ripped apart and
at
present cannot even be towed to open water to be placed on a dry-dock
vessel. The #1 engine room is flooded solid, as is AUX 1.  The Messdecks
deck is now pressed against the overhead.  The entire galley was pushed
to the starboard side and the equipment is unrecognizable.  This is where
many crew members died.  The ship was very nearly lost. They are truly
heroes. We all have a lot to do to save this vessel but the crew of the
Cole has endured the brunt of it so far.  I have vowed myself and my
department to offer any comfort, large or small that we are capable of
providing, to the Cole.  None of my guys have once complained and all
have volunteered to help in any way.
The Cole's Suppo was injured and flown home.  The disbo is now running
things.  I will assess his needs when I go over.  The Suppo on the USS
Hawes
has been controlling the efforts but now that the USS Tarawa is on station
they seem to be taking the rains, but I think I can at least provide him
some insight. Let there be no doubt that this is a hostile land.  It took
days before we were even allowed to enter territorial waters and still we
are heavily restricted in flights and must maintain a constant vigil
against additional hostile actions.  The Yemen government is still not
being very helpful and we are trying to place all personnel onboard the
ships that are currently staying at the two hotels in town.   The Cole's
crew remains emotionally and physically drained I'm told. So, since you
have experienced Navy life, try relay to those back home the sacrifices we
make, hardships we endure, and the dangers we face in an effort to keep
those Stars and Stripes flying high over a ship 10,000 miles from home.
Take care and sleep well knowing the US Navy is on watch tonight, but say
a prayer for the 250 members of the Cole who must wake tomorrow to another
day of fighting for their ship.

John Cassani
USS ANCHORAGE



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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:29:32 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Major web site addition

Ford Truck Enthusiasts slam dunks the competition with the
addition of over 400 photos of 2000, 2001 and 2002 Ford
trucks, vans and SUVs to the web site.

The new "Gallery" can be viewed either through the main
page "Picture Gallery" link or the link under the
"Recent Site Additions/News" on the main page:

<a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com">www.ford-trucks.com</a>

Enjoy!

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:28:02 -0500
From: prices <prices mciworld.com>
Subject: wide ratio C6

Tell me more about the wide ratio C6.  What years was it produced (I heard
'78?) and was it and the standard C6 produced together or did one follow the
other?  Is there a visual difference on the outside if I were searching for
a used one?   Last question, what are the ratios?  I have in my notes that a
C6 was 2.46, 1.46, and 1.00.

bkp

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Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 19:24:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Art Verling <art.verling excite.com>
Subject: 64 power steering conversion

It has come time to do something about my steering on my 64 F100. My
steering box is feeling funny and I can turn it about 1/4 turn before it has
any effect on the steering of the vehicle.  I am trying to decide if buying
a mustang II front clip is the answer or just converting to power steering
and disc brakes is the way to go. What is the opinion of the group?
I am not sure if I want to chop my frame to install the mustang II front
end. How hard is it to just convert to PS and disc brakes? What years of
F100s can I find the donor parts? Is it a major fabrication job to do this
conversion?
Thanks,
Art Verling
Reno, NV
64 F100


art.verling excite.com





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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 22:43:08 EDT
Subject: Re: leak from rear end

Drop the back of the drive shaft remove the yoke, use screwdriver to pry out
old seal.

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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: cab and box swap
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:06:00 -0400

If your on a budget, rust-oliem (sic) rusty metal primer and black paint
works excellent for this.  Not as good as POR-15 by any means, but has
lasted me many years and looks good.  Thin it down with mineral spirits and
you can even spray it with an air gun.

Rich

> I found that an easy way to degrease and paint the frame was to use the
> purple liquid degreaser available at auto parts stores and a pressure
> washer. Spray down the frame with the degreaser, let it sit for an hour
> (light scraping at the thick parts), then hose it down with the pressure
> washer. Repeat. Treat with metal prep, then POR-15 semigloss black (one
> part moisture curing urethane). Couln't be easier. Extremely professional
> results. Will last forever.



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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:36:52 -0400



> Hey list,
>    Any quick suggestions on a good paint to cover coil springs?  I was
> thinking epoxy paint, but will it crack? Thanks, A.

Again, try rust-olium (sic).  Ya'll know what I'm talking about here....:)
Any  Epoxy (read real hard) coating will crack with any movement.  Frame,
great, body parts, great.  Anything that moves, ie; springs, not good.

Rich


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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...
Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2000 23:50:46 -0400

Some of the body paint experts will have a better answer, but... Yea, they
make an elasticzed hardner for paint used on plastic bumpers.  But, the last
time I painted a car (Mine) Norfolk Paint, who sells Dupont products,
recommended that I paint my bumpers with the same hardner that I painted the
body with.  Been two years and no problems yet.  I wouldn't paint parts,
like springs, that flexed with this though.

Rich

From: Southerland, Rich

> Isn't there a special paint type to paint flexible bumpers and the like?
> Perhaps this would work (have no real clue admittedly)...

> From: Alex Cook

> Hey list,
>    Any quick suggestions on a good paint to cover coil springs?  I was
> thinking epoxy paint, but will it crack? Thanks, A.



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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Fw: Re: Steering Shaft Part Numbers For Upper Universal
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:06:31 -0400

> A word of caution for anyone assembling this: The '77 F100 I recently
bought had
> a homemade shaft which was built by the not-so-mechanically-inclined PO.

Sometimes scary

Somehow he managed to warp the yokes either when he pressed the u-joint into
the yoke or
> when he welded (bubble-gummed) the yoke to the *galvanized* pipe.

Galvanized pipe???  you got to be kidding?!!   I hope :)

There was also
> no slip joint which is a no-no IMO.

Your right

Anyways, I had to brace my feet and pull the
> wheel with both hands to move this truck around the driveway.
> Greg

Sorry list, this is one of two pet peaves of mine.  Bring your vehicle to my
house, will help you as much as I can. But if I see something wrong with
your brakes or steering, were gonna fix it or your vehicle stay's, even if i
have to pay for the part's.  Ask Jeff Hansen.  ( Ohhhh, am I gonna pay for
that remark..:)

Rich


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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: Coil spring paint...
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 00:16:15 -0400



> >How about like a rubbery paint.  I can't remember the name of it.  It
isn't
> >cheap though.
Yea, we use a rubbery type substance on valves on boat's in the navy.  Only
seen orange and blue though.  Forget what it's real name is but can find
out.  All you do is dip a clean part in it and it's covered,


> >>  Isn't there a special paint type to paint flexible bumpers and the
like?
> >  > Perhaps this would work (have no real clue admittedly)...
>
> So I suppose powder coating is out?  I was just going to use cheap
> Rust-o-leum in a rattle can :)

Powder coat is the way to go if you can find a place to have it done, or can
afford it.  Nawww, it's about as hard, if not harder than epoxy, it would
crack woudn't it?  I can attest to this, it scratches and chips off lockers ....


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