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61-79-list Digest Mon, 23 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 307

In This Issue:
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
4X4 Steering Shaft
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: OD vs manual
Re: Often there
Re: OD in '78
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: OD in '78
Re: cab and box swap
Re: sober friends / was:: cab and box swap
Re: sober friends / was:: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: cab and box swap
Re: OD in '78
Re: old smokey
Re: cab and box swap
Re: Cab for sale
drums and rotors
Re: drums and rotors
Re: Cab for sale
Re: drums and rotors

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 10:47:59 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap

>ok.
>so i can swap the cab from a 77 f-150 to my 79 f-250
>now all i need is a book.
>
>anyone know of a place where i can get a manual/book/how-to to tell me how
>to do it now?
>
>it looks pretty basic i just don't wanna screw anything up and i want to do
>it in the least time possible because it's getting cold and it's gonna snow
>soon


As far as being a book for swapping cabs.  I don't think
there is one but here are some tips just in case

Watch for wires.  There always seems to be an extra wire that
needs to be disconnected here or there.  Especially if there is lots
of home grown wire jobs in the trucks.  Watch the OEM harness
connections.  They should be pretty close to the same but there might
be a few differences with A/C or something.  I have done it with the
front clip on and off.  on saves time if you have the man power or
equipment to do it.  We use 2 fork lifts, one on each side of the
cab.  Works great no backaches.

Let me see if I can remember most of the stuff that needs to be disconnected.

Bed should only be 6 or 8 bed bolts and wiring harness to
tail lights and gas fillers.

Cab is more tricky.  6 bolts for the cab and front clip. 2
are in the cab, 2 you can get to from the front wheel wells and the 2
for the front clip are on the radiator support.  Might need a long
extension to get at them.  2 people is really a big help.  One to
hold from the bottom one to turn from the top.  can be done with one
just take more time.  Undo clutch linkage and tranny and t-case
shifters and remove floor pan on transmission hump.

The brakes you can do one of two ways.  Unbolt the Master
cylinder from the booster ( take booster if you want also) or remove
brake lines from master cylinder.  Check connector for rear wiring
harness while you are in the area there.  Throttle linkage also needs
to come off.


Radiator and heater hoses to the cab alos have to come off.
Wiring to the engine, oil, temp ect.  If yo have A/C and are leaving
the cab and front clip on you might be able to just unbolt the
compressor from the engine.  If you pull it as just the cab, the
system will need to be discharged and the hoses removed.  If you have
an in cab fuel tank the fuel line will need to be removed, plugged,
drained whatever it takes to keep you from getting blown up.

If the front clip is coming off by it self you will need to
disconnect the wiring harness there also.

Check for grounds between the cab-engine cab-frame.  Even
then once you get the cab up in the air you will find some wire that
was missed or something.

Body mounts are most likely toast by now so you might want to
pick up some new ones.  I think Ford still has the rubber ones or
there are aftermarket urethane bushing.

Vin tags.  Make sure you grab all your old vin numbers off
the old cab.  Don't ask me how I know.....

Ok guys what did I forget..:)
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:54:33 -0700
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap



Don Grossman wrote:

> <snip>
>
>         As far as being a book for swapping cabs.  I don't think
> there is one but here are some tips just in case
>
>  <snip>
>
> Ok guys what did I forget..:)
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com

Sounds good Don. I didn't see parking brake cables mentioned tho. Cab mounts on
these ol' trucks here in Maine require the flaming hacksaw. Just no way they're
gonna turn after 20+ winters of salt. Have a garden hose handy ... the rubbers
will catch fire and smoke like %&*#!

Good luck,
Greg

>


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:15:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jimbo <jcraig CLEMSON.EDU>
Subject: 4X4 Steering Shaft

Hey Tony, what is the universal fix you mentioned for the sloppy universal
joint on '67-'79 4X steering shafts?  Is the only solution an entirely new
shaft from the catalog with a different joint, or can you somehow replace
the OE joint?

                       Jimbo
               '77 Supercab 466


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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:33:56 -0500

Greg,
I know what your saying wisconsin has salt too and it sucks!
so i'm gonna have to torch of the bolts and buy new ones..
anyone know what size they are btw? heh :)

now i just need a bed. because the 77 f-150 won't fit :-(
----- Original Message -----
From: "Greg" <greg gregster.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:54 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: cab and box swap


>
>
> Don Grossman wrote:
>
> > <snip>
> >
> >         As far as being a book for swapping cabs.  I don't think
> > there is one but here are some tips just in case
> >
> >  <snip>
> >
> > Ok guys what did I forget..:)
> > --
> > Don Grossman
> > duckdon mac.com
>
> Sounds good Don. I didn't see parking brake cables mentioned tho. Cab
mounts on
> these ol' trucks here in Maine require the flaming hacksaw. Just no way
they're
> gonna turn after 20+ winters of salt. Have a garden hose handy ... the
rubbers
> will catch fire and smoke like %&*#!
>
> Good luck,
> Greg
>
> >
>
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:38:41 -0500

Don,
Thanks for the tips
(clicks print)
heh
I will be having the man power probably no fork lift
i'm gonna be doing this in my buddies dad's back yard (don't ask how we got
him to let us)

and also about body mounts.. i'm thinking of just putting a body lift on it
while i'm at it too..
so that will be easier too.. (it's all torn apart so why not right?)


I don't have ac so that should be a little bit simpler.

brakes. ok the brakes are different on the f-250 and the f-150's.  i don't
know if the master cylinder size is any different though so i hope it's not
but it might be...
hmm
wires wires.. just gotta remember where all the wires go. *sighs*
hey atelast i can use the 100mph speddo from teh 77 :)

and vin tags.. hmm yeah lets get pulled over with wrong vin tags :)
i already took them off.. (still in truck cuz i still drive it, i broke my
car and junked it) so from that i'm gonna have to do a sorta rush job
how long you think it will take with say 3 guys or so?

-Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Grossman" <duckdon mac.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 12:47 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: cab and box swap


> >ok.
> >so i can swap the cab from a 77 f-150 to my 79 f-250
> >now all i need is a book.
> >
> >anyone know of a place where i can get a manual/book/how-to to tell me
how
> >to do it now?
> >
> >it looks pretty basic i just don't wanna screw anything up and i want to
do
> >it in the least time possible because it's getting cold and it's gonna
snow
> >soon
>
>
> As far as being a book for swapping cabs.  I don't think
> there is one but here are some tips just in case
>
> Watch for wires.  There always seems to be an extra wire that
> needs to be disconnected here or there.  Especially if there is lots
> of home grown wire jobs in the trucks.  Watch the OEM harness
> connections.  They should be pretty close to the same but there might
> be a few differences with A/C or something.  I have done it with the
> front clip on and off.  on saves time if you have the man power or
> equipment to do it.  We use 2 fork lifts, one on each side of the
> cab.  Works great no backaches.
>
> Let me see if I can remember most of the stuff that needs to be
disconnected.
>
> Bed should only be 6 or 8 bed bolts and wiring harness to
> tail lights and gas fillers.
>
> Cab is more tricky.  6 bolts for the cab and front clip. 2
> are in the cab, 2 you can get to from the front wheel wells and the 2
> for the front clip are on the radiator support.  Might need a long
> extension to get at them.  2 people is really a big help.  One to
> hold from the bottom one to turn from the top.  can be done with one
> just take more time.  Undo clutch linkage and tranny and t-case
> shifters and remove floor pan on transmission hump.
>
> The brakes you can do one of two ways.  Unbolt the Master
> cylinder from the booster ( take booster if you want also) or remove
> brake lines from master cylinder.  Check connector for rear wiring
> harness while you are in the area there.  Throttle linkage also needs
> to come off.
>
>
> Radiator and heater hoses to the cab alos have to come off.
> Wiring to the engine, oil, temp ect.  If yo have A/C and are leaving
> the cab and front clip on you might be able to just unbolt the
> compressor from the engine.  If you pull it as just the cab, the
> system will need to be discharged and the hoses removed.  If you have
> an in cab fuel tank the fuel line will need to be removed, plugged,
> drained whatever it takes to keep you from getting blown up.
>
> If the front clip is coming off by it self you will need to
> disconnect the wiring harness there also.
>
> Check for grounds between the cab-engine cab-frame.  Even
> then once you get the cab up in the air you will find some wire that
> was missed or something.
>
> Body mounts are most likely toast by now so you might want to
> pick up some new ones.  I think Ford still has the rubber ones or
> there are aftermarket urethane bushing.
>
> Vin tags.  Make sure you grab all your old vin numbers off
> the old cab.  Don't ask me how I know.....
>
> Ok guys what did I forget..:)
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com
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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:10:03 -0700 (PDT)

Don wrote:
> Can I swap the cab and the box to my f-250?

Sorry this is late and may not matter anyway.

Check the rear cab mounts, the last two just before the bed.

I don't know about '77 or '79, but I can tell you for sure
these mounts are different between a '74 F-100 and '74 F-250.
The F-100 mounts are more centered and only about 2.5ft apart
and the F-250's are out near the cab corners.

Now it may just be a matter of drilling holes in the cab where
the F-250 mounts are but you should at least check it out to be
sure.


Mark in Southwest Washington
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html
--
'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4x4
in digest mode


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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:22:51 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap

>
>now i just need a bed. because the 77 f-150 won't fit :-(

We didn't say it won't fit we just said it might not fit.  Did you
check it yet?
I used a 77 F-150 as a donor frame and it had the wider frame section
in the rear.  Also had the NP435 and 205 as well.  yours might be
different.

laters
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: OD vs manual
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:29:40 -0700

Sorry, I'm not a Ch**y guy but that's what I meant :-)  My granddad had one
in his 53 with 235 straight 6......

Happily Totally Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> the 1949 model year. Earlier automatics were not Hydramatics. The two
speed
> Hydramatic referred to as preferred by racing is actually a Powerglide.



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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 18:42:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Often there

> Why mess around with flimsy crap at auto
>parts when you can go down to a dana/spicer dealer

Because the local parts store IS a Dana/Spicer dealer :)  Oh yeah and Perfect
Circle is also part of the same company, just a cheaper brand (like a nike without
the swoosh I guess :).

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:45:36 -0500
Subject: Re: OD vs manual
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> Sorry, I'm not a Ch**y guy but that's what I meant :-)  My granddad had one
> in his 53 with 235 straight 6......

Correct, Gary. Chevies didn't get V8s until 1955. Of course we all know
Ford had the flathead V8 long before that. If I remember my history right,
WW2 messed up the development cycle for many companies. When my dad came
back from WW2, he ordered a new car at every dealer in town. The only one
ever delivered was a 47 Ford.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: OD in '78
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:42:57 -0700

This is incorrect, think about it a little more :-)  The axles will have the
same torque applied at the wheels, yes but the portion of the total torque
applied at the wheels will be higher in the axles with lower gears and the
drive shaft will have less applied to it with lower gears.

Happily Totally Retired,
Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> If your running the same overall ratio, the axle shafts will see the exact
> same torque whether it has 2.75 or 4.10 gears.   And comparing a wide
ratio
> C6 to an E4OD (same gear ratios, I think you mentioned) the driveshaft
will
> also be seeing the same torque multiplication.



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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:47:46 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap

Well Don,(I feel like I am talking to myself)
>
>
>brakes. ok the brakes are different on the f-250 and the f-150's.  i don't
>know if the master cylinder size is any different though so i hope it's not
>but it might be...

Yep, you will need the F-250 master cylinder.  Leave the master
cylinders attached to the brake line and separate at the booster.
You will need to adjust the rod after you are done.

>and vin tags.. hmm yeah lets get pulled over with wrong vin tags :)
>i already took them off.. (still in truck cuz i still drive it, i broke my
>car and junked it) so from that i'm gonna have to do a sorta rush job
>how long you think it will take with say 3 guys or so?
>
>-Don

do you plan on painting the frame and the whole nine yards?  Being
the quick job and everything goes right ( which it never does) and
you don't need any other parts ( which you might) it could be done in
a couple of days.  Getting both cabs ready to remove might take you a
whole day and figure 2 for putting one back together enough to drive.
That is with 3 sober friends actually working.

You know the routine, work for about an hour, end up by the BBQ pit
the rest of the day :)
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:10:05 -0500

i was just about to ask why you feel like your talking to yourself but duh i
feel blonde (But i'm not)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Grossman" <duckdon mac.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 2:47 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: cab and box swap


> Well Don,(I feel like I am talking to myself)
> >
> >
> >brakes. ok the brakes are different on the f-250 and the f-150's.  i
don't
> >know if the master cylinder size is any different though so i hope it's
not
> >but it might be...
>
> Yep, you will need the F-250 master cylinder.  Leave the master
> cylinders attached to the brake line and separate at the booster.
> You will need to adjust the rod after you are done.
>
> >and vin tags.. hmm yeah lets get pulled over with wrong vin tags :)
> >i already took them off.. (still in truck cuz i still drive it, i broke
my
> >car and junked it) so from that i'm gonna have to do a sorta rush job
> >how long you think it will take with say 3 guys or so?
> >
> >-Don
>
> do you plan on painting the frame and the whole nine yards?  Being
> the quick job and everything goes right ( which it never does) and
> you don't need any other parts ( which you might) it could be done in
> a couple of days.  Getting both cabs ready to remove might take you a
> whole day and figure 2 for putting one back together enough to drive.
> That is with 3 sober friends actually working.
>
> You know the routine, work for about an hour, end up by the BBQ pit
> the rest of the day :)
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:53:24 -0700
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap



Don Thurlow wrote:

> <snip>
> so i'm gonna have to torch of the bolts and buy new ones..
> anyone know what size they are btw? heh :)

Guessing 1/2 or 5/8. The cabs I torched off (many) were just rust-buckets, so
never payed much attention.


>
>
>


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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: OD in '78
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:28:46 -0700

Gary wrote:
> but the portion of the total torque
> applied at the wheels will be higher in the axles with lower gears and the
> drive shaft will have less applied to it with lower gears.

Are you talking about the differential or the axle shafts?   Please reread
my post.  I think we're "discussing" the same side of a point.

Jason wrote:
> > If your running the same overall ratio, the axle shafts will see the
exact
> > same torque whether it has 2.75 or 4.10 gears.   And comparing a wide
> ratio
> > C6 to an E4OD (same gear ratios, I think you mentioned) the driveshaft
> will
> > also be seeing the same torque multiplication.

Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke
"As fast as necessary, as slow as possible"




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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:30:16 -0500

Ok brakes seem easy then (everything is easier said then done though).

that's the reward for the guys helping me. once we get it done beer on me.
(but i think i'll go broke with that more so then the truck, my buddy can
drink a lot)
Well i am gonna remove the one cab (good one) before anything so that will
be ready to go. i'll sand blast it and prime it, paint it. I can do that all
while preparing everthing else.  So i'm thinking once i get the other cab
off ( bad one, which i'm driving) i'll be able to do it in a day I HOPE ..
like disaasemble the bad cab and prep it to get it off for the next day (do
that at night) and then get up early (probably hung over so will be working
slow in the mourning) and then put the good cab on and hopefully get it
bolted down and the wieres hooked up. but i'm dreaming do that in a weekend?
IF I"M LUCKY.


i'll find out what kind of transfer case it has.. it has a 351M in it and a
c6. (the 351M i'm taking) but anyone need a tranny?
*sighs* i think i confused my self with that wording oh well


> Well Don,(I feel like I am talking to myself)
> >
> >
> >brakes. ok the brakes are different on the f-250 and the f-150's.  i
don't
> >know if the master cylinder size is any different though so i hope it's
not
> >but it might be...
>
> Yep, you will need the F-250 master cylinder.  Leave the master
> cylinders attached to the brake line and separate at the booster.
> You will need to adjust the rod after you are done.
>
> >and vin tags.. hmm yeah lets get pulled over with wrong vin tags :)
> >i already took them off.. (still in truck cuz i still drive it, i broke
my
> >car and junked it) so from that i'm gonna have to do a sorta rush job
> >how long you think it will take with say 3 guys or so?
> >
> >-Don
>
> do you plan on painting the frame and the whole nine yards?  Being
> the quick job and everything goes right ( which it never does) and
> you don't need any other parts ( which you might) it could be done in
> a couple of days.  Getting both cabs ready to remove might take you a
> whole day and figure 2 for putting one back together enough to drive.
> That is with 3 sober friends actually working.
>
> You know the routine, work for about an hour, end up by the BBQ pit
> the rest of the day :)
> --
> Don Grossman
> duckdon mac.com
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:30:38 -0700
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: sober friends / was:: cab and box swap



> From: "Don Grossman" <duckdon mac.com>
>
> > That is with 3 sober friends actually working.

You are truly blessed to find 3 sober friends at the same place & time
:-)

dave Prasse

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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: sober friends / was:: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:39:08 -0500

it's not to hard to find 3 sober friends, you just have to promise them that
they won't be sober after there done helping.. :)

>
>
> > From: "Don Grossman" <duckdon mac.com>
> >
> > > That is with 3 sober friends actually working.
>
> You are truly blessed to find 3 sober friends at the same place & time
> :-)
>
> dave Prasse
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:44:20 -0500


>
> do you plan on painting the frame and the whole nine yards?  Being
> the quick job and everything goes right ( which it never does) and
> you don't need any other parts ( which you might) it could be done in
> a couple of days.  Getting both cabs ready to remove might take you a
> whole day and figure 2 for putting one back together enough to drive.
> That is with 3 sober friends actually working.
>
I might paint the fram Don.
If i have the time to I will.
I might sand it down and just black primer it a few coats. I dunno yet.
I'l lsee when i get there
and i will be documenting everything. and taking pictures of everything too.
so I'll have some good info for anyone that ever does it in the future...



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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 13:51:38 -0700

If this project is anything like mine seem to be, take your worst-case
estimate and double it.  That should be close (at that's what SWMBO says
about me).

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Thurlow [mailto:don.thurlow greenbaynet.com]
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 1:44 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: cab and box swap



>
> do you plan on painting the frame and the whole nine yards?  Being
> the quick job and everything goes right ( which it never does) and
> you don't need any other parts ( which you might) it could be done in
> a couple of days.  Getting both cabs ready to remove might take you a
> whole day and figure 2 for putting one back together enough to drive.
> That is with 3 sober friends actually working.
>
I might paint the fram Don.
If i have the time to I will.
I might sand it down and just black primer it a few coats. I dunno yet.
I'l lsee when i get there
and i will be documenting everything. and taking pictures of everything too.
so I'll have some good info for anyone that ever does it in the future...


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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:49:05 GMT
Subject: Re: OD in '78

>This is incorrect, think about it a little more :-)

I think that's the problem, I didn't read most of this thread for a reason and
had to pick this one ...


>The axles will have the
>same torque applied at the wheels,

Otherwise the vehicle would be accelerating ... the only torque required is
that which is needed to overcome parasitic drag losses from wind resistance,
fluid friction, etc ...

> yes but the portion of the total torque
>applied at the wheels will be higher in the axles with lower gears

Uhm ... not sure exactly what you mean here ... you mean the amount of torque
lost in the differential will be less with the lower gears ?  Are we talkin
lower numerically ?  Because a higher number will multiply the available torque
quite nicely, but will lose some in the mesh and re-mesh of gears because its
spinning faster ... while the lower numerically won't have as great a multiplication
factor, it will lose less to frictional losses so a higher portion of available
will be reaching the wheels, but available will be lower  ....

>and the
>drive shaft will have less applied to it with lower gears.
>

Sorry I missed the lower numerically part that was probably discussed earlier
... but wouldn't the driveshaft have less applied with the higher numbered gears
?  Motor torque would actually be being cut at the tranny (.69 or whatever),
so the torque differential (what the driveshaft sees between the tranny output
and the diff input) would actually be lower with an OD tranny ?

If this is all clear off base, just ignore me.

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 14:49:21 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: old smokey

I'm getting worried...I actually understood this...

G & J Boling wrote:
>

> =====================================================
> another thought is the ranny modulator valve if its a a automatic tranny
> i have had them go bad and smoke like a freight train really but not use
> much tranny fluid at all just a little being sucked into the intake will
> really cause em to smoke terrible
> gordon
>

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 15:20:03 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: cab and box swap

>If this project is anything like mine seem to be, take your worst-case
>estimate and double it.  That should be close (at that's what SWMBO says
>about me).

I had one project where I wanted to do everything perfect.  After 3
years I gave up and parted the whole thing out :(
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Hogan, Tom (Portland)" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Cab for sale
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:16:39 -0700


>
>
> Steve Schaefer wrote:
> <snip>
>
> >
> >
> > Where are you located.  I am interested.
> >
>
> <snip>
> I'm in the southern part of Maine ... Oxford county. the
> truck is just outside
> of Portland till I get it trailered here, hopefully this weekend.
>
> Greg
>

What a coincidence.  I'm just outside of Portland.  Truck wouldn't happen to
be in Buxton would it?

Tom H.

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From: "clint kelland" <ckelland yknet.yk.ca>
Subject: drums and rotors
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:33:40 -0700



hi guys


got a 73 f250 4x4 with drum brakes on the front.i got a chance for a front
diff from a 79 f250 with rotors  .can i just swap this over to my truck and
have brakes or do i have to add anything else.(ie.different brake booster
or whatever)
thanks
clint
73 f250 4x4 300/6 with a 79 cab and box

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 17:37:46 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: drums and rotors

>hi guys
>

Hi,

>
>got a 73 f250 4x4 with drum brakes on the front.i got a chance for a front
>diff from a 79 f250 with rotors  .can i just swap this over to my truck and
>have brakes or do i have to add anything else.(ie.different brake booster
>or whatever)
>thanks
>clint

Booster no. Master cylinder yes.  If you have a proportioning valve
it will need to be adjusted or swapped out for one you can use with
disk brakes.
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 20:35:42 -0700
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: Cab for sale



"Hogan, Tom (Portland)" wrote:

>
>
> What a coincidence.  I'm just outside of Portland.  Truck wouldn't happen to
> be in Buxton would it?
>
> Tom H.

Nope ... Westbrook. If you're interested in parts b4 I bring the truck here,
I'll get ya connected with my buddy/partner Jimbo. He's right next door in
Gorham. I'm about 65 miles north of there in Sumner.

BTW, we've also got 2 other trucks for parts ... '77 crewcab w/no cab (Jimbo's
using that one) and a '77 supercab (cab very rusty). Both 2WD. No beds (the only
good one is MINE!). Maybe some hoods and fenders in good shape (depends on what
I wanna keep for spares). And we have all kindsa glass. I'll be listing allot of
stuff on my website w/photos in the near future. Gotta clean up the back yard
some to make room for more!

Have a good-un,
Greg

>
>


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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: drums and rotors
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 19:10:23 -0700

> got a 73 f250 4x4 with drum brakes on the front.i got a chance for a front
> diff from a 79 f250 with rotors  .can i just swap this over to my truck ....


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