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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:31:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #290 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Thu, 12 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 290 In This Issue: Nanuals 93-96 mirrors on my '73? Re: Manuals Re: Nanuals Re: Brand Spankin New Carpet Carparts.com and online ordering in general... Re: high output heater Re: fuel pump Re: high output heater Re: new truck Re: 390 into a '62 Re: Interval wiper switches... F-E into a 62 F-250 fuel pump... NOTE: don't weld next to the fuel line question concerning ifs Re: AAA Re: 390 into a '62 Vacuum Lines 1971 F100 Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Re: C/B radios Re: Vacuum Lines 1971 F100 Resistive wire Re: C/B radios Re: C/B radios fUEL PUMPS shop manuals Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Re: C/B radios Onan Generator Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 390 info Anyone? Re: Transmission ID: Was: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '7 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:01:55 -0500 From: Al Evitts <albert Subject: Nanuals Can anybody tell me the url to helm? I need to see if they have an obscure manual. Tnanx Al ------------------------------ From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 Subject: 93-96 mirrors on my '73? Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:06:21 GMT I like the looks of the 93-96 power mirrors, and have been kicking around the idea of mounting them onto my '73. I know the angle of the doors is different, hopefully I can work around that - custom adapter/mount or alter the door a little. Does anyone know how the new mirrors mount on? I see two screws into the sheet metal, is that all or is there some sort of brace on the inside? I would have to do some wiring and mount the switch, I can handle that, with a diagram and some ingenuity. I would appreciate any suggestions, comments or thoughts. Marty '73 F100 390 _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther Subject: Re: Manuals Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:09:09 -0700 www.helminc.com -----Original Message----- From: Al Evitts [mailto:albert Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:02 AM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Nanuals Can anybody tell me the url to helm? I need to see if they have an obscure manual. Tnanx Al ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: Natp244 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 11:06:36 EDT Subject: Re: Nanuals www.helminc.com ------------------------------ From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 Subject: Re: Brand Spankin New Carpet Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:22:00 GMT >Where'd you score your carpet from??? It came from Carparts.com. The Oct 2000 issue of Petersen's 4 Wheel & Offroad had a coupon for $50 off a $150 order, couldn't pass that up. The carpet was $100, and I got a steering wheel that was basically free. I thought it was a good deal. That was the only time I've done business with Carparts.com, and I was satisfied, no problems anyway. Marty '73 F100 with new carpet _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther Subject: Carparts.com and online ordering in general... Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:43:37 -0700 Have used them several times and they have always been accomodating. Used a $50 off coupon to get a set of very nice diamond plate running boards for my '77 E150 (wheel to wheel) for $105 shipped. They deal in used parts too. Probably wouldn't have old Ford parts, but I ordered a used P/S pump for an Infiniti Q45 for $70 (reman one was $240 and local wreckers wanted $150) which was guaranteed for 30 days and it was great. The only error I had from them was I ordered a high volume oil pump for the 3.8 I was putting in my Delta 88. They sent me a pump for a RWD 3.8, which I did not notice until 5 months later when I finally had time to pull the motor. It was well past their 30 day refund policy (my fault), but I called them and they took it back and gave me a full refund, including shipping the part back to them! Check out www.dealcatcher.com or onlyonsale.com - they have lots of coupon codes for all kinds of online businesses. Some are not so good, but some are great (they have that $50 coupon code from carparts.com listed). I send SWMBO flowers every so often from 1800flowers.com and I found coupon codes at these sites that saves me about $10 per order (pays for the service charge). It's worth a look to see if the place you're considering buying from anyway has a coupon deal out there... -----Original Message----- From: MARTY COLMAN [mailto:colman76 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:22 AM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Brand Spankin New Carpet >Where'd you score your carpet from??? It came from Carparts.com. The Oct 2000 issue of Petersen's 4 Wheel & Offroad had a coupon for $50 off a $150 order, couldn't pass that up. The carpet was $100, and I got a steering wheel that was basically free. I thought it was a good deal. That was the only time I've done business with Carparts.com, and I was satisfied, no problems anyway. Marty '73 F100 with new carpet ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 15:14:08 GMT Subject: Re: high output heater >Does it have a bigger heater core? bigger fan? Is it really >warmer? Would it be worth the trouble to put it into mine? Mine works >good, but the winters in South Dakota are cold. > Mine said that as well on it, but a 160° thermostat takes care of that "high output" really quick ... it seems like they asked me if it was a high output heater when I was getting a radiator, so maybe they sized that smaller figuring if you needed the high output heater you didn't need as much cooling ? I'd also guess the heater core to be bigger. Unfortunately my truck is so many pieces I'd bet that mine just had the dashplate that said that and not really any of the components. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 10:49:20 -0600 Subject: Re: fuel pump >From: "Bob" <xavetarx > >quick question: > >will a 351/400 fuel pump fit a 460? Yo Bob: Quick answer: no. The 335 series engines (351C/351M/400) have a unique fuel pump design. Dave R (M-block devotee) ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: high output heater Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 16:26:42 -0400 > >Does it have a bigger heater core? bigger fan? Is it really > >warmer? Would it be worth the trouble to put it into mine? Mine works > >good, but the winters in South Dakota are cold. ======================================================== when i tried sticking a high output heater core in my 79 f 100 i found out they will NOT fit the heater box it goes into real quick it was a thicker and larger both gordon ------------------------------ From: daves8 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 14:26:24 -0600 Subject: Re: new truck Hey, I've gotta ask you... how and where did they mount the Onan generator in it? Or is it just tossed in the box? Dave Schoenberg Arvada, Colorado 73 F250 Camper Special On Thu, 12 Oct 2000 08:40:25 -0500 Doss Halsey <halsey writes: ................... > The '72 F250 camper special with the Onan Generator is for sale as well. ....... ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: 390 into a '62 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:13:31 -0400 > Thanks Gordon, that's something I hadn't thought of. Are the engine > compartment frame dimensions the same through '66? > > Rich ========================================== rich i spoke with my friend who has done the same conversion to a F/E engine he says he used car motor mounts and welded them to bar stock for his 390 in his 61 BUT he says there is a easier way tho that J.C.Whitney has a kit to do this set up for about 100.00 bucks thats much easier tho gordon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:05:32 -0500 From: "Howard Bottles" <Howard.Bottles Subject: Re: Interval wiper switches... What is involved in doing this swap? are there two parts or one? is the switch and timer together or separate? so you think the switch and timer from the 83 will fit a '73-'79??? Thanks Howard Mike Mackie wrote: > Picked up an interval wiper switch and timer from an 83 F150 on the weekend. > Just for kicks tried plugging it in to my 68. It works great! Had to move one > wire in the timer harness to get the squirters working but no other problems. > I can't see why earlier switches wouldn't work as well. It's the little bonuses > like this that keep this hobby worthwhile. > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ______________________________________________________________________ This email transmission and any documents, files or previous email messages attached to it may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient or a person responsible for delivering this transmission to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that you must not read this transmission and that any disclosure, copying, printing, distribution or use of this transmission is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify the sender by telephone or return email and delete the original transmission and its attachments without reading or saving in any manner. ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: oldfords63 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:12:34 -0500 Subject: F-E into a 62 F-250 <richlars > I have seen these cradle type mounts but have been reluctant to get one. >>>> Do you have any problems with yours? ========================================================================= === Rich- I never had problems with the 302, but, it looked like there'd be room to pull the pan. I don't know how much room there is on the FE set-up though. It's pretty common to have to lift the engine to pull the pan anyway. If you WOULD have to pull the pan, it only takes a few minutes to get the motor ready to raise. Good luck, Phil ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ From: "Bob" <xavetarx Subject: fuel pump... NOTE: don't weld next to the fuel line Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:16:13 -0400 >will a 351/400 fuel pump fit a 460? Yo Bob: Quick answer: no. Thanks! ================================== I've spent the past two WHOLE days trying to figure out why no fuel is getting to the carb. I found one reason... I welded a hole in a the fuel line. (fixed that problem) After changing the fuel pump a couple times (back and forth after many A experiment) I'm stuck. I used a brake line bleeder and made sure fuel came to the pump, but neither pump I put in wants to push it to the carb. I'm sure if I would have found the hole before I messed with the fuel pump, it'd be running now, but... live and learn. Is it possible I put the pump in wrong? Both were bolted to the block securely, and both are for a FORD 460. aggravated and tired, -bob- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:49:51 -0700 From: Negative Image <negativeimage Subject: question concerning ifs I'm wanting to put in a mustang II ifs in my 65 f100. what year mustang II should i look for and how hard is it going to be to get it off of the mustang II? -- Andrew Rolfsen 1965 Ford F100 Flare Side 351c 1968 Mercury Cougar 302 1966 Plymouth Fury III 318 ------------------------------ From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 Subject: Re: AAA Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:57:54 -0500 hehe -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce [mailto:61-79-list-bounce Allgire Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 11:32 PM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA with that Z-28 those 6 free tows will come in handy . HA-HA-HA -----Original Message----- From: Ted Wnorowski <theodore To: 61-79-list Date: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 10:58 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA > My wife and I are both AAA Plus members. With the trucks, her Z28 and POS >van, and a 17 year old, the 6 "free" tows are WELL worth it. > > > > >Ted Wnorowski Flat Rock, OH >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wnorowski.com/ >mailto:theodore >' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed >' 63 F-100 parts truck >' 66 F-250 352 4 speed flatbed > > > > > > > > > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ============================================================= To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars Subject: Re: 390 into a '62 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:08:48 -0600 > rich > i spoke with my friend who has done the same conversion to a F/E engine he > says he used car motor mounts and welded them to bar stock for his 390 in > his 61 BUT he says there is a easier way tho that J.C.Whitney has a kit to > do this set up for about 100.00 bucks thats much easier tho > gordon Thanks!!! I will dig out my JCW and give them a look-see. I appreciate the tip Rich ------------------------------ From: Deppdog Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:40:24 EDT Subject: Vacuum Lines 1971 F100 I have a '71 F100 with a 360 / 2 bbl - C6. Is there a diagram for the vacuum lines available anywhere? Does anyone have one they could scan and e-mail me? Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:29:45 -0700 From: Greg <greg Subject: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 I found this Vin # decoder for 1970 - 80 F100 - F350 and Bronco. Seems to be accurate for my two '77,s and my '75 - '78 parts trucks. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.medicine.wisc.edu/~mrm/bronco/ftvin.cgi Question: Are there any visable differences (on the outside) between a C6 and FMX trans? I don't think I've ever seen an FMX. TIA Gregster '77 F250 Explorer 4x4 '77 F100 Custom 4x4 (new addition to the family) ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 20:45:30 EDT Subject: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 The Gregster Wrote: > Question: Are there any visable differences (on the outside) between a > C6 and FMX trans? I don't think I've ever seen an FMX. Try this on for size Greg. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/tbeeee/page/Auto-Trans.html Thom 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: C/B radios Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:31:02 -0400 THANKS for the C/B links evryone gordon ------------------------------ From: GMontgo930 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:13:05 EDT Subject: Re: Vacuum Lines 1971 F100 In a message dated 10/12/00 8:41:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Deppdog writes: << I have a '71 F100 with a 360 / 2 bbl - C6. Is there a diagram for the vacuum lines available anywhere? Does anyone have one they could scan and e-mail me? Thanks! >> Im rather sure Ive got those diagrams for a '73 but I'd have to look to make sure (In my '73 Ford Manuals.) If ya still want them, let me know.... George M in Fl. ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 Subject: Resistive wire Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:17:33 -0500 Rich writes: >>Key on engine off, points closed 7.2 volts.... When I hooked up a jumper wire from the batt to the coil, the voltage read 12.0 v<< This in itself tells me that there is resistance someplace between the Ignition and the distributor.... How about it Gary??? Doesn't the fact that the jumper gives a higher voltage indicate a restive wire??? Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: Re: C/B radios Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:29:51 -0500 Anytime! My current radio is the Cobra 25LTD with 40 lower channels, echo reverb, and talkback. It pushes ten watts barefoot and 100 watts with help. "Enough" to get the job done!:-) Jason > THANKS > for the C/B links evryone > gordon ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: Re: C/B radios Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:31:13 -0500 Oops, that was supposed to go directly to Gordon! Sorry! Jason ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 Subject: fUEL PUMPS Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:44:21 -0500 Bob writes: >> will a 351/400 fuel pump fit a 460<< I believe the 351M/400 and C have vertical bolt mountings whereas the 460/429's have horizontal bolt mountings.. If this is so, then No! Won't swap out.. Ain't positive, but I think this is correct... Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 22:52:12 -0500 From: prices <prices Subject: shop manuals If anyone is interested, I have a set of '73 and a set of '75 shop manuals for sale. Both sets are in very good condition. They cover the F series as well as Bronco and Econoline. Asking $55 for either set plus shipping. Figured I would offer them to you guys before putting them on ebay. Please email me off line at prices bkp in NC 73 XLT 429 78 XLT 302 67 future project ------------------------------ From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam Subject: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 00:09:10 -0400 the case & the bell housing on the C-6 are all one piece.isn't the case & bell housing on a FMX 2 seperate pcs. ? I have never had anything with an FMX tranny in it. -----Original Message----- From: TBeeee To: 61-79-list Date: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:53 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 >The Gregster Wrote: > >> Question: Are there any visable differences (on the outside) between a >> C6 and FMX trans? I don't think I've ever seen an FMX. > >Try this on for size Greg. > >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.aol.com/_ht_a/tbeeee/page/Auto-Trans.html > >Thom >1967 F-Series Registry >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:35:44 -0700 From: Greg <greg Subject: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 Tim and Pam Allgire wrote: > the case & the bell housing on the C-6 are all one piece. <snip> Then there must be different C6,s (bell housing bolt patterns) for different engine families ... i.e., one from a 360 won't fit a 460, right? My buddy needs a C6 for his 460. All I have is one from a 360. ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Re: C/B radios Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:27:23 -0500 Jason i wouldn't annonce that to loud. Shhh FCC > Anytime! My current radio is the Cobra 25LTD with 40 lower channels, echo > reverb, and talkback. It pushes ten watts barefoot and 100 watts with help. > "Enough" to get the job done!:-) > Jason > > > > THANKS > > for the C/B links evryone > > gordon > > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:19:10 -0500 From: Doss Halsey <halsey Subject: Onan Generator >Hey, I've gotta ask you... how and where did they mount the Onan >generator in it? Or is it just tossed in the box? Dave, It is mounted on the driver's side fender well up under the hood. The exhaust runs down and out the bottom of the engine compartment. The mount is really to the driver's side frame rail with some kind of vibration absorbing mount. The driver's side inner fender seems to be a special unit made just for this generator. The owner's manual is in the glovebox. It says "Onan Ford" on it. Doss Halsey ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 05:00:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Finn <ecfinn Subject: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '70 thru '80 --- Greg <greg > Tim and Pam Allgire wrote: > > > the case & the bell housing on the C-6 are all one piece. > > <snip> > Then there must be different C6,s (bell housing bolt patterns) for > different > engine families ... i.e., one from a 360 won't fit a 460, right? My > buddy needs > a C6 for his 460. All I have is one from a 360. Greg, If I'm not mistaken then you'll be able to use a C6 from behind a 335 series engine such as what's behind a 351M/400. These should not be hard to find since they were the most common motor in the '77 1/2-'79 F-series and Bronco's. I don't have personal knowledge of this but I've heard it discussed enough to know that if you've got a truck with 351M/C6 combo you can swap in a 460 without changing the trans. HTH, Eric Finn '78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress) '79 F-350 (coming soon...) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://mail.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 Subject: 390 info Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:13:16 -0500 Well guys & gals, got me another truck, couldn't pass it up. 1970 F250 Camper Special. It was at a car dealership and the guy said if I fixed the accelerator linkage on it, I could have it for 400 bucks. I was grinning from ear to ear =P. What I want to know is, can ya'll tell me some sites that tell about the 390? I'm not real familiar with V8's. Thanks! "Old Fords Never Die, They Just Go Faster..." '67 F100 247. That's right, 247 =)(240 .060 over) '70 F250 Camper Special. 390 cid and Dana 60. ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Anyone? Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:59:56 -0500 Anyone from wisconsin on this list (besides me) that knows of any good places to get old good ford parts? LIke a bed perhaps :-) -Don Thurlow ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:26:24 EDT Subject: Re: Transmission ID: Was: Re: Online Vin # decoder for '7 In a message dated 10/12/2000 11:59:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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