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61-79-list Digest Tue, 10 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 288

In This Issue:
Re: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Re: should i?
Re: 390 into a '62
Re: KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Junkyard admission fees
Re: AAA
Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
Re: Now Towing Cost
Re: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
223 intake/carb variations
Re: 302
Re: AAA
Re: 302
Re: AAA
Re: AAA
Re: AAA
Re: AAA

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:08:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD

If you have a Mallory Unilite you can reduce the
vacuum advance with a Hex Allen key inserted into the
opening in the Vacuum Advance unit. I think it is 2
degrees per turn. Check it with a timing light, while
hooking up to manifold vacuum. Reconnect to ported
vacuum and try it. The effect is to reduce the total
advance and also the advance at low RPM.

The other thing to try is change the Metering Rods in
the Edelbrock Carb one step richer in the power mode.
You can go on line and get the info from
www.edelbrock.com. Or email me, give me your carb
model# and I will give you the metering rod #.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


spark knocks in fourth gear coming
                up
                hills (not mountains) and
accelerating - unless you get on it so slowly
                it
                takes 2 miles to get from 45 to 65.
Vacume gage pulling 15.  In 2nd
                and 3rd
                it has all the power in the world -
and will run a steady 22 vac at
                2-4000rpm.  We set the timing at 4-6.
                What next?  Recap: this is a 69 429
with a complete rebuild/ballence
                and has
                about 6000 miles on it in a 79 F-150
4Wd with a NP435 tranny.  This
                knocking/pinging has been the same
with both the Holley/Mallory Mech.
                Unilite combo and Edlebrock/FOMOCO
Vac advance distrib since the day of
                rebirth.
                The cam is a speedpro with:
Intake/exhaust: lift: .484, SAE Duration
                284
                degree, Gross lift .280, Duration 208
degree.  Has 9:1 slugs, .040
                over.
                4:11 gears for the 33" tires.
                Anybody else out there play with this
kind of combo that can offer some
                "been there" advise?  Like I said
before - I have never played with
                carburators - Anybody fine tune one
of these eldebrocks?  By that I
                mean
                play with the plethera of various
primary and secondary / metering rods
                /
                step up springs they give the diagram
in the owners manual?  I'm
                thinking a
                little bigger jet - would close the
throttle plates a little - boost
                vacume


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:20:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: should i?

Andrew,

Unless you are interested in racing, don't spend your
money on the 351C-4V heads. They are great for
producing horsepower at high RPM, but no advantage for
a daily driver. Also with the increased compression
you will need premium gas. I think you should rebuild
your stock heads with hardened valve seats, and go
with a RV Cam. (high lift, no overlap).

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:26:50 -0700
                From: Negative Image
<negativeimage earthlink.net>
                Subject: should i?

                I'm finally starting on the engine of
my 65 flareside. It's got a 1970
                351c in it with 2v heads. I'm going
to upgrade the cam, intake, carb,
                timing chain, ignition, and so on. my
question is this..... should i
                add
                4v heads? most of my friends are
saying no, that only drag racers use
                4v
                heads. if i add them to an occasional
drivers, how big of a difference
                in mpg am i going to notice?

                --
                Andrew Rolfsen
                1965 Ford F100 Flare Side 351c
                1968 Mercury Cougar 302
                1966 Plymouth Fury III 318


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> 61-79-list Digest Tue, 10 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000
> Issue: 287
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> In This Issue:
> Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
> Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
> 302
> Re: Now: towing costs
> Re: 302
> Re: 302
> Re: 302
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: 302
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
> Re: Carb replacement ?
> Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
> Re: shortie and daves U-pull
> Re: 302
> 390 into a '62
> should i?
> shortie and daves U-pull
> Re: Batteries?
> Re: positive or negative ground???
> Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
> ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
> Re: shortie and daves U-pull
> Re: Volts coil
>
>
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>
> From: "Toby Till" <tt4wd charter.net>
> Subject: Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:46:04 -0400
>
> Does it have A/C?
>
> I need some pictures if it does. If anyone else has
> a 4X4 460 truck with A/C
> please let me know. I need to see if the 2wd
> brackets will fit with the 78'
> 79' steering gear.
>
> If you plan on parting it out I would be interested
> in the front end and
> steering box.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Toby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Finn" <ecfinn yahoo.com>
> To: "FTE" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:39 PM
> Subject: [61-79-list] New '79 F-350 in the stable!
>
>
> > Well gang I just put a deposit down on a '79 F-350
> 4x4 that I saw in my
> > local paper.  I pick it up Saturday AM.  It seems
> to be exactly what I was
> > looking for to supplement my current Bronco
> project.  It's 4-wheel drive
> > so if I don't get my Bronco done in time for
> winter I'll have a backup
> > plan.  Its got a 460 with a C6 in it so if I ever
> decide to get rid of it
> > I can rebuild the engine and swap it into my
> Bronco.
> >
> > It also has a stake body type flat-bed conversion
> instead of a standard
> > pickup bed.  The bed floor is like 4' off the
> ground.  It has a rusty
> > roll-cage and dual stack exhaust pipes behind the
> cab.  Its also got
> > relatively new 35" BFG AT's.  It seemed to be in
> good shape with a
> > possible clunk in the driveline when shifting
> Drive to Reverse in 4-Hi and
> > 4-Lo.  I'm thinking a u-joint in the front
> d-shaft.  Its not currently
> > inspected (last inspected in '98) but I'm buying
> it from the second owner
> > who's had it since 1984.  Its got some brake
> problems so they will need to
> > be addressed before it gets inspected and a few
> other minor issues as
> > well.  And, get this, he's throwing in all the
> spare parts he's
> > accumulated over the years, a half rebuilt 351M
> with high-rise intake,
> > spare C6 tranny, a set of 4-40" tires, the front
> steering shaft that runs
> > between the two hubs (I don't know what its
> called) :-(, and whatever else
> > he's got laying around.  I'm getting the whole lot
> for $1200.  Is that a
> > decent deal?  I figure that if I parted this out
> the parts alone could be
> > worth close to that price.
> >
> > So what axles does a '79 F-350 4x4 have in it?
> >
> > What else can you tell me about the '79 F-350?
> I'm thinking it'll be
> > emissions exempt since its GVWR is like 8550 or
> something like that.  Is
> > that right?
> >
> > Oh well gotta go.  Just thought I'd share my
> latest purchase with ya'll
> > and see what the general consensus is regarding
> it.  So is it at least a
> > decent buy or did I get hood-winked.
> >
> > Later,
> >
> > Eric Finn (who needs another vehicle like I need a
> hole in the head)
> > '78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project STILL in
> Progress!)
> > '79 F-350 4x4 (soon to be added)
> > '95 Mustang GT "Beauty"
> > '98 Honda Shadow 750 ACE
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> Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
>
> Toby,
>
> Sorry to disappoint but it does not have A/C.  Just
> the standard heat or
> defrost options.
>
> At this point I'm not planning on parting it out
> since I need a functional
> truck for this winter.  I'm not ruling it out at
> sometime in the future
> however.  (like spring 2001)  I'll be sure to keep
> the list updated on
> whatever happens though.
>
> --- Toby Till <tt4wd charter.net> wrote:
> > Does it have A/C?
> >
> > I need some pictures if it does. If anyone else
> has a 4X4 460 truck with
> > A/C
> > please let me know. I need to see if the 2wd
> brackets will fit with the
> > 78'
> > 79' steering gear.
> >
> > If you plan on parting it out I would be
> interested in the front end and
> > steering box.
>
>
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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 390 into a '62
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 23:33:10 -0400

I have a 390 that I hope to replace the old
> 292 with in my '62 F250.  I have a bell housing and I am on the lookout
for
> a front cover/motor mount that was used in the early 60's.  Does anyone
have
> any good suggestion
=====================================
i have a friend who still drives a 61 f 100 with this conversion it Daily IF
i recall corectly he got the motor mount perches from a later model then
welded them into the 61 and then used a cross flo radiator because they are
cheaper and easier to find in the wrecking yards now
gordon



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From: "Chris Samuel" <fourmuelz email.msn.com>
Subject: Re: KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 22:24:48 -0700


From: "Jeffery Hansen" <billybobjoehansen hotmail.com>
Subject: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:50:49 GMT

Okay guys - Rich suggest I write and ask for some further advise.  Really -
he did.  >SNIP<
Coming back to the ship it ran 100%
better - BUT - no matter what still spark knocks in fourth gear coming up
hills (not mountains) and accelerating - unless you get on it so slowly it
takes 2 miles to get from 45 to 65.  Vacume gage pulling 15.  In 2nd and 3rd
it has all the power in the world - and will run a steady 22 vac at
2-4000rpm.  We set the timing at 4-6.
What next?  >SNIP<
Anybody else out there play with this kind of combo that can offer some
"been there" advise?  Like I said before - I have never played with
carburators - Anybody fine tune one of these eldebrocks?  By that I mean
play with the plethera of various primary and secondary / metering rods /
step up springs they give the diagram in the owners manual?  >SNIP<
_________________________________________________________________________

Deacon once asked me to write a How to tune it article to go with my "How to
choose" article years ago... like how long Deacon?
Anyway here is a simple way to see roughly how close it is, or isn't.  This
works best with the Carter and Edelbrock Carbs.
With the engine warmed up, that would be engine warm and choke off.  Set the
Idle mixture to give you the highest vacuum reading by adjusting the mixture
screws in or out as required, then...  WEARING SAFETY GLASSES!  You crank in
the idle speed adjusting screw to increase the engine RPM's until you see
the main system just start to flow...
Huh?  What's a main system?
Ok, this is what you're looking for.  As your looking down in to the Carb
there are the Venturi and the Booster Venturi.  What is a Venturi?  Well you
can see the 4 BBL's; each of them is a Venturi.  Then there are the smaller
circular shaped things that are in the centers of those 4 Venturi and they
are the Booster Venturi.  When the Main System starts, you will see fuel
just start to flow out of the Booster Venturi. This usually starts happening
about 2000-RPM give or take 500 or so, it just depends on, everything.  Then
you slowly close the choke blade.  If the engine speeds up as the choke
closes then the engine is lean.  If the engine slows down then the engine is
rich.  On the Carter/Edelbrock start by changing the needle size up or down
as indicated, Bigger = Lean and Small = Rich.  Then repeat the test.  Note
that if you close the choke all the way the engine will usually stall out,
what you are looking for is the change in RPM.  If the engine speeded up,
and you installed a smaller needle to make it richer, and the engine speeded
up less at the same amount of choke closure, then you know that you went the
right way.  If it got worse then...  If you cant get a change with the
needle then you need to change a jet size, or two.  Often you can make
faster progress in dialing in a Carb by making large steps in jet and needle
size to identify the way to go.  Then make small changes to fine tune.

If you are getting Pinging after the secondarys are in then install a jet 2
sizes bigger and re-test.
Do not change the springs under the needle pistons until you have tweaked
everything else in. The springs are a very fine adjustment, and IME should
be done last.
Unfortunately you should purchase the appropriate jet kit for your Carb to
correctly tune the Carb.

FWIW:
Main Entry:       venĚtuĚri
Pronunciation:   ven-'tur-E
Function: noun
Etymology: G. B. Venturi died 1822 Italian physicist
Date: 1887
: a short tube with a tapering constriction in the middle that causes an
increase in the velocity of flow of a fluid and a corresponding decrease in
fluid pressure and that is used especially in measuring fluid flow or for
creating a suction (as for driving aircraft instruments or drawing fuel into
the flow stream of a carburetor)

Hope this helps some.

Chris Samuel AKA: Muel
Member SAE
Member AWS
Member AFTE
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:24:39 -0400
From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Junkyard admission fees

At 09:26 PM 10/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>You have to pay in Philly to go to a boneyard?


The 1 or 2 bucks it takes to get you in is generally for insurance on
you.  That way if you get hurt inside, you will be covered.  Not such a bad
deal.

This is usually done in larger cities where the proprietors have more
experience with lawyers and lawsuits.


George Selby
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd
86 Nissan 300ZX
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 02:41:48 -0400
From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: AAA

At 09:26 PM 10/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Get AAA.  The hookup and the first four miles are
>free.  ............


Get AAA Plus, and they tow you for 100 miles for free.  This is any car you
are riding in, not just your cars.  I have saved several friends (and
myself) from long walks or waits (other than for the tow truck) with
AAA.  Plus they will charge your battery, unlock your car if you lock in
the keys, bring you gas (handy for our Fords with their messed up gauges)
or change a tire if needed (I personally don't need the help but some of
the smaller folk may appreciate this.)  In addition you get discounts at
many hotels and other services.

One time my alternator went out 250 miles from home (a custom 160 amp unit
for my Isuzu truck, it was fixed under warranty, but it had to be mailed
off to be fixed.  I just put the stocker back in once at home until I got
the 160A unit back.  I still have the 160A unit, waiting for installation
into my Ford.  I already checked, it fits with a pulley change)   I made it
50 miles on battery power.  I called AAA and they towed my 98.7 miles
towards home.  After the tow, the service station they towed me to charged
up both my batteries fully (for free, they were AAA, too) and I made it
home on battery power.

Not meaning to sound like an ad, but when I think of all the times AAA has
saved my butt, the $80 is costs each year is well worth it (especially
since I don't actually pay, my mother does it for peace of mind every year
for Christmas [and I'm 30.])


George Selby
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd
86 Nissan 300ZX
gselby4x4 earthlink.net
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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 06:54:05 -0400

(note to self *or anyone else* don't fill up when there's a
> gas truck at the gas station)
>
> -Don
=====================================
thats right you wouldnt beleive all the mud crap and corruption on the
bottom of a gas station tank including water that gets stirred up because of
the truck dumping fuel down into the underground tanks and then it still
takes about an hour for it all to settle down to the bottom again
gordon



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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:51:25 -0500
From: Steve Schaefer <schaefer PLASTEKGROUP.COM>
Subject: Re: Now Towing Cost

I am usually the 1 people call for the tow.  And it is usually of the bowtie kind :>).  I don' rub it in much:>)

Steve S
77 F-250 Supercab
76 F-350 Crew cab
"New" 54 F-100
2 trailers
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Shop/8663/

> Good advice if you expect to be towed. I have had towing on my car insurance
> for 25 years and haven't been towed by a tow truck yet. A chain and a little
> brother or a son are the cheapest. I haven't been towed at all since I
> started driving the blue oval.
>


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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:39:44 -0400
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD

> better - BUT - no matter what still spark knocks in fourth gear coming up
> hills (not mountains) and accelerating - unless you get on it so slowly it
> takes 2 miles to get from 45 to 65.

You may be running lean in the main circuit.  My Sp*rtster used to
do this until I bumped up the main jet one size.  I know, apples and
oragnes, but a H*rley motor has a lot more in common with a 30 year old
Ford truck than most modern motorcycles (or cars).  Actually, a
40 year old truck would be a better comaprison, since 48 states
Harl*ys still use only an overly lean mixture from the factory as
their "emission control."

I don't know if this trick works on car engines, but it's worth a
try:  Find yourself a nice long flat stretch and floor it.  With the
engine turning 3K or more rpm, let off just the tiniest bit on the
throttle, maybe 1/8 travel.  If your engine starts pulling better when
you do this, then your main circuit is lean.

FWIW,

--sean


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From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:44:47 EDT
Subject: 223 intake/carb variations

   I have a '63 F-100. It has a 223 straight-six engine. I am thinking
about
replacing the carburator. It's old. I rebuilt it. It's leaky.
========================================================

Dave, you have a couple of options. If you want to stay " stock" you can
purchase a rebuilt carb using your old one as a core. You might also check
with Holley and see if they make a bolt on replacement; they do for some,
but I don't know about that one. Another option is a carb adapter, that
would permit a later model carb to bolt to your intake. Then you could also
go with an aftermarket intake if anybody made one, that would permit a later
carb too. Good luck, Phil


Dave,

Clifford Research makes both a carb adaptor to adapt a 2V Holley to the stock intake, or you can get a 4V intake from them as well, which will let you use the small Holly 390 4V.  they also make 2 different headers for said motor, and they have a mild camshaft ava. if you are so inclined.  offey, nickson, fenton and others made 2 carb intakes for that motor in the 50's, as it was popular to use in sprint cars in those days. You can always do what i did and find a funky 3 carb set up that uses 3 of those holleys, and if you really look hard like i did, you can find the glass bowls to go with them.  The 4V combo runs better, but boy, does the 3 carb stepup sure look good...

if you look reeeeal hard, you could find a mallory dual point for it and a fenton cast iron header.  I have not found the header for it (still looking), but i did manage to get ahold of a NOS mallory dist. (out of production since '57 and not for sale!!)

greg schnakenberg

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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: 302
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:26:39 -0500

got a picture of it?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Pearson" <dpearson ctc.edu>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:02 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 302


> Needs a paint job, a headliner, some minor interior work...Daily driver
> (if I didn't have so many darn cars).
>
> Don Thurlow wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Don Thurlow wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hey guys.
> > > > I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.
> > What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?
> > > >
> > >  $1300 and I'll throw in the '73 Mustang with it...
> > >
> > Tempting... what's wrong with it? heh
> >
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: AAA
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 09:31:20 -0500

Wish my mommy paid for it for me *sniffle*
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From: "George Selby" <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:41 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA


> At 09:26 PM 10/10/00 -0400, you wrote:
> >Get AAA.  The hookup and the first four miles are
> >free.  ............
>
>
> Get AAA Plus, and they tow you for 100 miles for free.  This is any car
you
> are riding in, not just your cars.  I have saved several friends (and
> myself) from long walks or waits (other than for the tow truck) with
> AAA.  Plus they will charge your battery, unlock your car if you lock in
> the keys, bring you gas (handy for our Fords with their messed up gauges)
> or change a tire if needed (I personally don't need the help but some of
> the smaller folk may appreciate this.)  In addition you get discounts at
> many hotels and other services.
>
> One time my alternator went out 250 miles from home (a custom 160 amp unit
> for my Isuzu truck, it was fixed under warranty, but it had to be mailed
> off to be fixed.  I just put the stocker back in once at home until I got
> the 160A unit back.  I still have the 160A unit, waiting for installation
> into my Ford.  I already checked, it fits with a pulley change)   I made
it
> 50 miles on battery power.  I called AAA and they towed my 98.7 miles
> towards home.  After the tow, the service station they towed me to charged
> up both my batteries fully (for free, they were AAA, too) and I made it
> home on battery power.
>
> Not meaning to sound like an ad, but when I think of all the times AAA has
> saved my butt, the $80 is costs each year is well worth it (especially
> since I don't actually pay, my mother does it for peace of mind every year
> for Christmas [and I'm 30.])
>
>
> George Selby
> 78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd
> 86 Nissan 300ZX
> gselby4x4 earthlink.net
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usedcarsandparts.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:40:54 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: 302

I'll look.  I believe I have some somewhere online as part of some page
somewhere...I'll email you off-list...

Don Thurlow wrote:
>
> got a picture of it?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dennis Pearson" <dpearson ctc.edu>
> To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:02 PM
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 302
>
> > Needs a paint job, a headliner, some minor interior work...Daily driver
> > (if I didn't have so many darn cars).
> >
> > Don Thurlow wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Don Thurlow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hey guys.
> > > > > I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.
> > > What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?
> > > > >
> > > >  $1300 and I'll throw in the '73 Mustang with it...
> > > >
> > > Tempting... what's wrong with it? heh
> > >
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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:51:46 -0400
From: Ted Wnorowski <theodore ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: AAA

My wife and I are both AAA Plus members. With the trucks, her Z28 and POS
van, and a 17 year old, the 6 "free" tows are WELL worth it.




Ted Wnorowski  Flat Rock, OH
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.wnorowski.com/
mailto:theodore ford-trucks.com
' 64 F-250 352 transplant 4 speed
' 63 F-100 parts truck
' 66 F-250 352 4 speed flatbed










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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: AAA
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 07:57:03 -0700

Isn't it that you have to be a regular member for so many years before you
can buy the plus membership?

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted Wnorowski [mailto:theodore ford-trucks.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:52 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA


My wife and I are both AAA Plus members. With the trucks, her Z28
and POS
van, and a 17 year old, the 6 "free" tows are WELL worth it.




Ted Wnorowski  Flat Rock, OH


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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: AAA
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 10:02:12 -0500

I don't think so.  I just got some offer in te mail for AAA.  I'll look on
tehre website..

-Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:57 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA


> Isn't it that you have to be a regular member for so many years before you
> can buy the plus membership?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Wnorowski [mailto:theodore ford-trucks.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:52 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA
>
>
> My wife and I are both AAA Plus members. With the trucks, her Z28
> and POS
> van, and a 17 year old, the 6 "free" tows are WELL worth it.
>
>
>
>
> Ted Wnorowski  Flat Rock, OH
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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: AAA
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 08:04:32 -0700

Duh.  Just checked there and according to them, "you must have been a member
for at least 12 months and utilized the service no more than 4 times" before
you are eligible...

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Thurlow [mailto:don.thurlow greenbaynet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:02 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA


I don't think so.  I just got some offer in te mail for AAA.  I'll look on
tehre website..

-Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 9:57 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA


> Isn't it that you have to be a regular member for so many years before you
> can buy the plus membership?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ted Wnorowski [mailto:theodore ford-trucks.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 7:52 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: AAA
>
>
> My wife and I are both AAA Plus members. With the trucks, her Z28
> and POS ....


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