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61-79-list Digest Tue, 10 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 287

In This Issue:
Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
302
Re: Now: towing costs
Re: 302
Re: 302
Re: 302
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: 302
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
Re: Carb replacement ?
Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
Re: shortie and daves U-pull
Re: 302
390 into a '62
should i?
shortie and daves U-pull
Re: Batteries?
Re: positive or negative ground???
Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Re: shortie and daves U-pull
Re: Volts coil

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From: "Toby Till" <tt4wd charter.net>
Subject: Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:46:04 -0400

Does it have A/C?

I need some pictures if it does. If anyone else has a 4X4 460 truck with A/C
please let me know. I need to see if the 2wd brackets will fit with the 78'
79' steering gear.

If you plan on parting it out I would be interested in the front end and
steering box.

Thanks,

Toby
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Finn" <ecfinn yahoo.com>
To: "FTE" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 5:39 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] New '79 F-350 in the stable!


> Well gang I just put a deposit down on a '79 F-350 4x4 that I saw in my
> local paper.  I pick it up Saturday AM.  It seems to be exactly what I was
> looking for to supplement my current Bronco project.  It's 4-wheel drive
> so if I don't get my Bronco done in time for winter I'll have a backup
> plan.  Its got a 460 with a C6 in it so if I ever decide to get rid of it
> I can rebuild the engine and swap it into my Bronco.
>
> It also has a stake body type flat-bed conversion instead of a standard
> pickup bed.  The bed floor is like 4' off the ground.  It has a rusty
> roll-cage and dual stack exhaust pipes behind the cab.  Its also got
> relatively new 35" BFG AT's.  It seemed to be in good shape with a
> possible clunk in the driveline when shifting Drive to Reverse in 4-Hi and
> 4-Lo.  I'm thinking a u-joint in the front d-shaft.  Its not currently
> inspected (last inspected in '98) but I'm buying it from the second owner
> who's had it since 1984.  Its got some brake problems so they will need to
> be addressed before it gets inspected and a few other minor issues as
> well.  And, get this, he's throwing in all the spare parts he's
> accumulated over the years, a half rebuilt 351M with high-rise intake,
> spare C6 tranny, a set of 4-40" tires, the front steering shaft that runs
> between the two hubs (I don't know what its called) :-(, and whatever else
> he's got laying around.  I'm getting the whole lot for $1200.  Is that a
> decent deal?  I figure that if I parted this out the parts alone could be
> worth close to that price.
>
> So what axles does a '79 F-350 4x4 have in it?
>
> What else can you tell me about the '79 F-350?  I'm thinking it'll be
> emissions exempt since its GVWR is like 8550 or something like that.  Is
> that right?
>
> Oh well gotta go.  Just thought I'd share my latest purchase with ya'll
> and see what the general consensus is regarding it.  So is it at least a
> decent buy or did I get hood-winked.
>
> Later,
>
> Eric Finn (who needs another vehicle like I need a hole in the head)
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> '79 F-350 4x4 (soon to be added)
> '95 Mustang GT "Beauty"
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:58:54 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!

Toby,

Sorry to disappoint but it does not have A/C.  Just the standard heat or
defrost options.

At this point I'm not planning on parting it out since I need a functional
truck for this winter.  I'm not ruling it out at sometime in the future
however.  (like spring 2001)  I'll be sure to keep the list updated on
whatever happens though.

--- Toby Till <tt4wd charter.net> wrote:
> Does it have A/C?
>
> I need some pictures if it does. If anyone else has a 4X4 460 truck with
> A/C
> please let me know. I need to see if the 2wd brackets will fit with the
> 78'
> 79' steering gear.
>
> If you plan on parting it out I would be interested in the front end and
> steering box.


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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: 302
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:03:30 -0500


Hey guys.
I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.  What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?

-Don

p.s oh yeah  a few yards where saying $400-$450... i'm thinking that's to much


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:29:46 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: Now: towing costs


I had a car loaded on a truck, hauled about ten miles, then unloaded,
all for $40.  Only way to move a Ch*vy.

This was from Pasco, WA to beautiful rust-free downtown Kennewick, WA.

>
> I don't think they'll tow you off the Rubicon, though.   :-)
>
>
> On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:54:12 -0700 (PDT) Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
> writes:
> > Wow, that's pricy.  I just had my Bronco towed home yesterday after
> > working on it at my buddies house since March and I was charged $35 to
> > start the truck and $2.50 a mile.  All told it cost me $50 for four
> miles
> > and a tip to the driver.......

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:32:11 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: 302



Don Thurlow wrote:
>
> Hey guys.
> I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.  What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?
>
$1300 and I'll throw in the '73 Mustang with it...

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:35:19 EDT
Subject: Re: 302

Don (or anyone else looking for a 302):  I have a good running 302 in a 72 F100 located near Syracuse, NY.  Contact me off list if interested.

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: 302
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:49:58 -0500


>
> Don Thurlow wrote:
> >
> > Hey guys.
> > I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.
What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?
> >
>  $1300 and I'll throw in the '73 Mustang with it...
>
Tempting... what's wrong with it? heh


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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:01:52 -0500

I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what they
gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Desanto, Phillip
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 12:41 PM
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [61-79-list] Carb replacement ?


---------------------------


From: David Law
Subject: carb for 223 six again ('63 f-100)



I'm taking the suggestion made in several replies to the recent query made
to this list by Dan:
Dave asked:
I have a '63 F-100. It has a 223 straight-six engine. I am thinking
about
replacing the carburator. It's old. I rebuilt it. It's leaky.
========================================================

Dave, you have a couple of options. If you want to stay " stock" you can
purchase a rebuilt carb using your old one as a core. You might also check
with Holley and see if they make a bolt on replacement; they do for some,
but I don't know about that one. Another option is a carb adapter, that
would permit a later model carb to bolt to your intake. Then you could also
go with an aftermarket intake if anybody made one, that would permit a later
carb too. Good luck, Phil









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From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:02:52 -0700

Common misconception.  Holley is the rebuilder, but the carb is OEM.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Washburn [mailto:bruce9 flash.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:02 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Carb replacement ?


I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what they
gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:11:03 -0700
From: Keith Srb <herbie ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?

At 03:01 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
>gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what they
>gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
>original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.

1 Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with manual transmissions.  2
Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with automatic transmission.  the
second pump is actually a decelerator pump.  -  Per the 1966 Ford Truck
repair manuals.

Later
Keith


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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: 302
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:27:19 -0500

I know where you can porbably get a '71 F100 with a 302 for about $300. It's
been sitting for a few years now, but it ran when it was parked. It's in
Iowa, if anyone is interested.
Jason Kendrick


> -Don
> a few yards where saying $400-$450... i'm thinking that's to much



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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:40:56 -0500

yup yup, my friend's '67 has a real Holley 1-bbl on his truck

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Southerland, Rich
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:03 PM
To: '61-79-list ford-trucks.com'
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Carb replacement ?


Common misconception.  Holley is the rebuilder, but the carb is OEM.

-----Original Message-----
From: Eric Washburn [mailto:bruce9 flash.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 1:02 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Carb replacement ?


I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what they
gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.

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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 15:42:22 -0500

that's weird, my 2 pump one is the original one that came with the truck
when it was brand new, and it still has the original manual 3-spd tranny.

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Keith Srb
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:11 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Carb replacement ?


At 03:01 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
>gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what
they
>gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
>original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.

1 Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with manual transmissions.  2
Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with automatic transmission.  the
second pump is actually a decelerator pump.  -  Per the 1966 Ford Truck
repair manuals.

Later
Keith

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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:59:33 GMT
Subject: Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs

>What do you get towed with a Mercedes wrecker?

Carrie put her Mustang in the ditch a year or so ago ... I begged one of my
friends to loan me his Jeep as my truck was down (actually I think it was in
a different state), but he wouldn't do it since I was going to be pulling with
it (I'm good enough to work on the durned thing, but not good enough to drive
it I guess) ... so we ended up calling a tow truck to haul her out ... cost
us $98 just to put the 4 wheels back on the roadway ...he also wanted to tow
it the half mile back to the house 'cause the radiator was leakin and "it'll
overheat pretty quick" (car was completely cold and it was a whopping 60°
outside, how it would overheat that quick I don't know) ...

The only other time I was towed was after breaking a telephone pole with a 69
Cougar, they sent some dog pie chevy out to pick me up ... he got half way up
the driveway and realized the car weighed just a shade less than the truck so
he'd need granny gear ... missed it and the car pulled him back down, spun him
around and flung the tow truck into the ditch while the car stopped and rolled
onto its side against a tree ... about $400 in damages to a totalled car (neat
trick huh?) ... we had to use our tractor to pull him out ... never did get
a bill from those guys ...


Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:54:32 -0700
From: Keith Srb <herbie ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?

My 66 came with the Warner T-18 4 Speed and a 1 pump carb.  I have tried
running the 2 pump carb on my truck, but was never satisfied with the way
it ran.  I have since went back to the 1 pump carb and had the engine
purring like a kitten until the nylon timing gear went south in it.

Later
Keith



At 03:42 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>that's weird, my 2 pump one is the original one that came with the truck
>when it was brand new, and it still has the original manual 3-spd tranny.
>
>
>At 03:01 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I was
> >gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what
>they
> >gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump? My
> >original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.
>
>1 Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with manual transmissions.  2
>Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with automatic transmission.  the
>second pump is actually a decelerator pump.  -  Per the 1966 Ford Truck
>repair manuals.


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From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:01:51 -0500

I sure hope you wouldn't get a bill... *snickers*


> >What do you get towed with a Mercedes wrecker?
>
> Carrie put her Mustang in the ditch a year or so ago ... I begged one of
my
> friends to loan me his Jeep as my truck was down (actually I think it was
in
> a different state), but he wouldn't do it since I was going to be pulling
with
> it (I'm good enough to work on the durned thing, but not good enough to
drive
> it I guess) ... so we ended up calling a tow truck to haul her out ...
cost
> us $98 just to put the 4 wheels back on the roadway ...he also wanted to
tow
> it the half mile back to the house 'cause the radiator was leakin and
"it'll
> overheat pretty quick" (car was completely cold and it was a whopping
60°
> outside, how it would overheat that quick I don't know) ...
>
> The only other time I was towed was after breaking a telephone pole with a
69
> Cougar, they sent some dog pie chevy out to pick me up ... he got half way
up
> the driveway and realized the car weighed just a shade less than the truck
so
> he'd need granny gear ... missed it and the car pulled him back down, spun
him
> around and flung the tow truck into the ditch while the car stopped and
rolled
> onto its side against a tree ... about $400 in damages to a totalled car
(neat
> trick huh?) ... we had to use our tractor to pull him out ... never did
get
> a bill from those guys ...
>
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
> 73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Carb replacement ?
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 16:20:20 -0500

that's cool, wish I had a 4-spd. Doh, that's always bad.

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[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Keith Srb
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 3:55 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Carb replacement ?


My 66 came with the Warner T-18 4 Speed and a 1 pump carb.  I have tried
running the 2 pump carb on my truck, but was never satisfied with the way
it ran.  I have since went back to the 1 pump carb and had the engine
purring like a kitten until the nylon timing gear went south in it.

Later
Keith



At 03:42 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>that's weird, my 2 pump one is the original one that came with the truck
>when it was brand new, and it still has the original manual 3-spd tranny.
>
>
>At 03:01 PM 10/10/2000 -0500, you wrote:
> >I bought a Holley from the autostore for my 240 in my truck, thought I
was
> >gonna be getting a real Holley. My original is the Autolite 1101A, what
>they
> >gave me was an Autolite 1100, or is it 1101 with the 1 accelerator pump?
My
> >original had 2, but this new carb was rebuilt by Holley.
>
>1 Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with manual transmissions.  2
>Accelerator pump carbs are for vehicles with automatic transmission.  the
>second pump is actually a decelerator pump.  -  Per the 1966 Ford Truck
>repair manuals.

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 14:21:24 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: New '79 F-350 in the stable!

>
>
>At this point I'm not planning on parting it out since I need a functional
>truck for this winter.  I'm not ruling it out at sometime in the future
>however.  (like spring 2001)  I'll be sure to keep the list updated on
>whatever happens though.

I would be interested in the whole truck, but then it would be used
some more so you would have to come down on the price ;)
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: Re: shortie and daves U-pull
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:44:33 -0400



Really??, you must get some killer deals :-).
         <yep, we sometimes just barter services... it works out nicely.


do you know him?

Only from seeing him there, if that is him at window.
         <heh... nope, the real big guy that sits in the trailer is NOT
Dave.


I hear ya!! Are the mexicans still striping the place to export parts??
They were taking any good body part that was there for a while :-(.
         <They are indeedy

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:02:34 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: 302

Needs a paint job, a headliner, some minor interior work...Daily driver
(if I didn't have so many darn cars).

Don Thurlow wrote:
>
> >
> > Don Thurlow wrote:
> > >
> > > Hey guys.
> > > I was just calling some junk yards for a price of a 302 long block.
> What do you guys think is a decent price for an ok condition 302?
> > >
> >  $1300 and I'll throw in the '73 Mustang with it...
> >
> Tempting... what's wrong with it? heh
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From: "Richard Larsen" <richlars burgoyne.com>
Subject: 390 into a '62
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 17:44:29 -0600

I know this used to be a popular conversion, but I have talked to very few
people who have done it lately.  I have a 390 that I hope to replace the old
292 with in my '62 F250.  I have a bell housing and I am on the lookout for
a front cover/motor mount that was used in the early 60's.  Does anyone have
any good suggestion or seen a step-by-step book on the conversion?

Thanks,  Rich


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:26:50 -0700
From: Negative Image <negativeimage earthlink.net>
Subject: should i?

I'm finally starting on the engine of my 65 flareside. It's got a 1970
351c in it with 2v heads. I'm going to upgrade the cam, intake, carb,
timing chain, ignition, and so on. my question is this..... should i add
4v heads? most of my friends are saying no, that only drag racers use 4v
heads. if i add them to an occasional drivers, how big of a difference
in mpg am i going to notice?

--
Andrew Rolfsen
1965 Ford F100 Flare Side 351c
1968 Mercury Cougar 302
1966 Plymouth Fury III 318



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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject:  shortie and daves U-pull
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:55:10 -0400

That's (Dave) my neighbor
> that I'm acquainted with, do you know him?  I've been contemplating
getting
> a years pass, I've been there so often.

You have to pay in Philly to go to a boneyard?  I lived close to Philly 15
years ago and I dont recall them charging for admission then.  Heck I
purchased a power cylinder for my P\U from a Philly boneyard.  If this guy
is your neighbor, I guess "buisness is buisness" realy is a true statement
:)  Still cant see me paying to walk thru a pick and pull hoping they have a
part I can use.

Rich


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Batteries?

At 06:00 AM 09:10:2000 -0700, Clare Waterman-Storer wrote:
>oh-  I forgot to mention --dont be fooled-  the exide company makes
>batteries for many other companies (like chain auto parts stores such as
>kragen also places like k-mart).  look closely before you buy!
>
>clare
>

They're Diehards now too....

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: positive or negative ground???

At 08:59 PM 09:10:2000 -0600, Richard Larsen wrote:
>My 62 F-250 is the same with room for a monster battery.  The guy I bought
>it from worked for Caterpillar
>and had a Cat battery that took as much room as it could.  If the starter
>would hold up, it would get you to town without the engine even firing.  I
>wonder if the under the cab was only on unibodies?
>

My '63 has the Battery unner the hood, mounted on the fire wall
just like the late great '57...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: daves8 juno.com
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:29:04 -0600
Subject: Re: (Was Batteries?) Now: towing costs

Yeah, but it applies to all cars and drivers in your house -- including
your wife.

Dave Schoenberg

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000 13:39:33 -0500 "John LaGrone"
<jlagrone ford-trucks.com> writes:
>
> Good advice if you expect to be towed. I have had towing on my car
insurance
> for 25 years and haven't been towed by a tow truck yet. ........

After I wrote.... > > Get AAA.  The hookup and the first four miles are
free.  ............
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From: "Jeffery Hansen" <billybobjoehansen hotmail.com>
Subject: ....KNOCK-KNOCKING ON HEAVENS HOOD
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:50:49 GMT

Okay guys - Rich suggest I write and ask for some further advise.  Really -
he did.  Went over to his house yesterday and we checked not only the coil
voltage he's written about - but the timing, points, etc.
Heck - was getting so bad even knocked sitting at idle when you rapped the
throttle a little.  Found I had not even a baby fine hair's gap in the
points, let alone a couple of pubic hairs gap.  Got them set right.  How the
timing got to - what was is Rich - 18? I don't know.  We both set it at 8
not two months ago (about 120 miles).  Coming back to the ship it ran 100%
better - BUT - no matter what still spark knocks in fourth gear coming up
hills (not mountains) and accelerating - unless you get on it so slowly it
takes 2 miles to get from 45 to 65.  Vacume gage pulling 15.  In 2nd and 3rd
it has all the power in the world - and will run a steady 22 vac at
2-4000rpm.  We set the timing at 4-6.
What next?  Recap: this is a 69 429 with a complete rebuild/ballence and has
about 6000 miles on it in a 79 F-150 4Wd with a NP435 tranny.  This
knocking/pinging has been the same with both the Holley/Mallory Mech.
Unilite combo and Edlebrock/FOMOCO Vac advance distrib since the day of
rebirth.
The cam is a speedpro with: Intake/exhaust: lift: .484, SAE Duration 284
degree, Gross lift .280, Duration 208 degree.  Has 9:1 slugs, .040 over.
4:11 gears for the 33" tires.
Anybody else out there play with this kind of combo that can offer some
"been there" advise?  Like I said before - I have never played with
carburators - Anybody fine tune one of these eldebrocks?  By that I mean
play with the plethera of various primary and secondary / metering rods /
step up springs they give the diagram in the owners manual?  I'm thinking a
little bigger jet - would close the throttle plates a little - boost vacume
- yet increase fuel - increase power - better milage because of less foot so
to speek.  Am I on base here?  Or am I out in deep left day dreaming about
the cheerleaders?  And what combination should I try? - for those of you who
may have this carborator's owners manual.  I'd like not to end up with a
tackle box full of jets, etc.
Another question - Anybody ever put a Pertronics magnetic system in this
stock distrib?
Rich - can you cut and paste the responses to me - us - I'm haze grey,
underway, and earning my pay at 0700 in the am until the end of the month.
Oh - p.s. remember I've said I can never go to do anything to it without
something else going wrong?  Drivers side header rusted / blew out a big
chuck at the collector welds yesterday going to Rich's.  (Wonder if L&L will
honor thier "Lifetime" warrenty - on 16 year old headers purchased by the
previous owner. Probably not - they didn't the busted motor mount last
year.)
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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: Re: shortie and daves U-pull
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 21:57:35 -0400

I often wondered if they HAD to charge you admission.  They make you sign a
wavier and give'em two bucks.  I thought the two might have been connected.
It's not that bad if you can make a list and take the day to get all that
you need.

-bob-

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of rich
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 8:55 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] shortie and daves U-pull


That's (Dave) my neighbor
> that I'm acquainted with, do you know him?  I've been contemplating
getting
> a years pass, I've been there so often.

You have to pay in Philly to go to a boneyard?  I lived close to Philly 15
years ago and I dont recall them charging for admission then.  Heck I
purchased a power cylinder for my P\U from a Philly boneyard.  If this guy
is your neighbor, I guess "buisness is buisness" realy is a true statement
:)  Still cant see me paying to walk thru a pick and pull hoping they have a
part I can use.

Rich

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From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: Volts coil
Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 22:23:11 -0400

I'm confused.  Hmmm, how do I ask this without stepping on any toes...Two
respected list Guru's gave their opinions and I can't refute either one.  I
dont have a point type ignition to test on.  Can anyone measure their point
type ignition and Email me off list?  I'd hate to hook up a ballast
resistor, if he already has a resistor wire, and cut Jeff's coil voltage
below spec's.  He's still using his original Durospark ignition module.  Did
this use a resistance wire to the coil?  Does anyone have the schematics to
a 789 F150 with original 300 6 cyl who can look this up?  For those of you
who don't know, he now has a beefed up 429 installed with a conventional
dizzy and the previous owner butchered the wiring.  So tracing the original
wiring colors is probably out of the question.

Gary say's:
> For points you should be seeing less than battery voltage even with the
wire
> directly tied to the battery due to the "Load" the coil puts on the wire.
> The voltage should drop a volt or two immediately when the coil is shorted
> through the points so the average voltage at the coil should be 5-6V, not
> 10-11 if the resistor wire is hooked up when the engine is running.

Voltage at the coil, when running should
> aways be lower then when not running, key on and points closed. ....


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