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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:43:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #284 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Mon, 09 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 284 In This Issue: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? they Keith Srb For Dave L. Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Re: 427 SOHC Re: speedometer Batteries? Re: Batteries? Re: Batteries? Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Fleetside/Flareside Re: "outside of frame" headers Pushrod destroyed Re: Batteries? Re: Batteries? Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Re: New option... Re: Burps fuel out No more clouds of white smoke Re: No more clouds of white smoke positive or negative ground??? New '79 F-350 in the stable! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:18:16 -0700 From: Keith Srb <herbie Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? At 09:58 AM 10/09/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Joe, >I've got a stock '63 F100 4x4. This list does seem to >get dominated by owners of the later vintages. >Especially those who like to modify their trucks to >death. If it was good enough for Ford in '63, it's >good enough for me. If I wanted a new truck I'd just >go out and buy one. I'd like to see a list just for >the '61-'66's with an emphasis on restoration so I >wouldn't have to wade through all the stuff about smog >equipment and K&N airfilters (my oil bath has worked >just fine for 37 years, thank you). >Dan (and yes I do work at GM) When you have been on this list as long as I have you learn how to read a subject line and press the delete key in quick order ( in the beginning there was only one list that covered all years of trucks ). I have also seen almost every topic covered at least once if not more. If you really want advice on doing a resto project, go search the archives first. Chances are you will find most of the info there. If you don't find what you are looking for there, then ask the list. The people here will be more than happy to help. I personally like the diversity this list brings to the table. I have three trucks that cover three different decades. 66 F-100 74 F-250 86 Bronco II And with a little luck, I might be getting a 2001 Ranger or F-150. I think the list is fine, just the way it is. Later Keith ------------------------------ From: "David Lindenmayer" <davidl Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:28:48 -0500 Keith lost your other mail address please send to me so we can talk thanks Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Srb" <herbie To: <61-79-list Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:18 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? > At 09:58 AM 10/09/2000 -0700, you wrote: > >Joe, > >I've got a stock '63 F100 4x4. This list does seem to > >get dominated by owners of the later vintages. > >Especially those who like to modify their trucks to > >death. If it was good enough for Ford in '63, it's > >good enough for me. If I wanted a new truck I'd just > >go out and buy one. I'd like to see a list just for > >the '61-'66's with an emphasis on restoration so I > >wouldn't have to wade through all the stuff about smog > >equipment and K&N airfilters (my oil bath has worked > >just fine for 37 years, thank you). > >Dan (and yes I do work at GM) > > > When you have been on this list as long as I have you learn how to read a > subject line and press the delete key in quick order ( in the beginning > there was only one list that covered all years of trucks ). I have also > seen almost every topic covered at least once if not more. If you really > want advice on doing a resto project, go search the archives > first. Chances are you will find most of the info there. If you don't > find what you are looking for there, then ask the list. The people here > will be more than happy to help. > > I personally like the diversity this list brings to the table. I have > three trucks that cover three different decades. > > 66 F-100 > 74 F-250 > 86 Bronco II > > And with a little luck, I might be getting a 2001 Ranger or F-150. > > I think the list is fine, just the way it is. > > Later > Keith > > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "David Lindenmayer" <davidl Subject: they Keith Srb Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:37:38 -0500 > Keith lost your other mail address please send to me so we can talk > thanks Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Keith Srb" <herbie > To: <61-79-list > Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 12:18 PM > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 10:34:08 -0700 From: Keith Srb <herbie Subject: For Dave L. At 12:28 PM 10/09/2000 -0500, you wrote: >Keith lost your other mail address please send to me so we can talk >thanks Dave herbie Which email address is your primary address?? later Keith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:45:25 -0500 Subject: Re: 427 SOHC From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67? If > my bid is successful, should I install a K&N or paper element filter (Sorry, > I couldn't resist!)? > Go Yankees! Get a manifold for two 4 barrels, then use one of each! I hope your Yankees do well since my Braves are out of it. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 07:59:47 -0500 (CDT) From: David Law <dxlaw Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? > I've got a stock '63 F100 4x4. This list does seem to > get dominated by owners of the later vintages. ... > I'd like to see a list just for > the '61-'66's with an emphasis on restoration ... I agree. I have a '63 F-100 with a 223 straight-six (and an oil-bath air filter). There isn't much that goes by this list which has much to do with this model. The '61-'66 trucks are a distinct class. A list devoted to them would be nice to have. David ------------------------------ From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther Subject: Re: 427 SOHC Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:04:57 -0700 With that monster, you need all the breathing you can get. Air filters (any kind) are much too restrictive. Go without! ;-P -----Original Message----- From: John LaGrone [mailto:jlagrone Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:45 AM To: 61-79-list Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 427 SOHC > I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67? If > my bid is successful, should I install a K&N or paper element filter (Sorry, > I couldn't resist!)? > Go Yankees! Get a manifold for two 4 barrels, then use one of each! I hope your Yankees do well since my Braves are out of it. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 17:08:15 GMT Subject: Re: speedometer >wish wrote; > >> Try lubing the speedometer cable > >What kind of lube should I use? Graphite? Petroleum based? There may be a speedo cable lube of some sort available, but I've used the standard household 3-in-1 oil on my truck, and I think I just used recycled oil in my Cougar, both worked quite well, though I may've had to do the truck twice, but since I've driven it three times as much (wrecked the Cougar after 2 years, but still have it!) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:05:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 Subject: Batteries? The battery in my '53 is 37 months old. It is an autostore 75? month battery. When then truck sits for a couple of days, it doesn't start without a charge. I know that the battery has reached its 36 month life, in spite of the guarantee. I could take it back to where I bought it, and get a few bucks off on another POS(piece of s**t). I would rather spend a little more and get a battery that will hold up for longer, as I have no intention of ever replacing the vehicle. Does anyone have any input on battery brands that I should consider. Is Optima any good or just another gimmick? How about Interstate? I like the idea of a sealed unit. I don't need corrosion in my battery box. Also I may go to a side terminal unit and use #2 AWG or #1 AWG cables. Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 12:59:24 -0500 Subject: Re: Gas burps from rear tank From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone >>Gas held in large, in ground tanks is very cold and compacted due to temp >>but when pumped out into the tank and the tank sits in the sun light it >>warms up considerably >> but I wouldn't expect a couple of gallons to come out even in >>the Sahara?? >> > > My thoughts too Gary ... I wonder if there is a siphon taking place between > the higher front tank and the lower rear tank for some reason ? Like a faulty > tank switch ... is the truck a CA truck that might have some re-circulation > setup on it ? Or is it possible the switch is not fully set on one tank or > the other allowing the pressure to backfeed fuel from one tank to the other > ? I'm thinking with wish, here. I'd look at the tank switch. I'd look for a solenoid hanging halfway. As inexpensive as they are, it might be worth replacing it to if that cures it. Otherwise, burn off the tank that burps first, use the other tank last. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:04:59 -0500 Subject: Re: Daily Driver From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > John LaG. writes: >>I turned over 80k original miles yesterday. A > daily driver is one that goes almost every day.<< > > Are you telling us that you have a '79 F150 with only 80K miles on it?? Yes, 80064 as of this morning. I drove it a lot over the weekend. > If I didn't need a truck anymore than that, I'd walk. Alas, if I could I would. Thus the little person in the wheel chair on my license plates. (Don't bother, I traded my placard for them about two weeks ago, so they aren't in any of Henry's posted mug shots. >I need the exercise > anyway... > John - I'm only kidding you, as I have a family car that is an '87 and only has > 60K miles on it.. However when I do go someplace in it, I usually don't have to > worry about getting it out of warmup mode. I just don't go very much in it. > Not, by any stretch of the imigination, a daily driver. My mom has a 73 Cadillac that falls in this category. I think it mostly sits these days. It showed in the high 60ks last time I looked. She does keep it licensed, inspected, and insured. My dad bought it new. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: Batteries? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:24:03 -0400 When then truck sits for > a couple of days, it doesn't start without a charge. ======================================================== are you sure the system is charging as it should be and when you do run it if it has a generator is it run long enough to charge it fully --------------------------------------- Does > anyone have any input on battery brands that I should > consider. =============================================== i have had the best luck with the DIEHARD batteries and EXCIDE brands myself the Interstate batteries just never seem to hold up long for me for some reason right now FORD is having a sale on batteries also for i think 59.00 or so also gordon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:19:09 -0500 Subject: Re: Batteries? From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > Does > anyone have any input on battery brands that I should > consider. I run WalMart Everstart on all my vehicles. I have had good service from the batteries and good replacement allowance on the one my Towncar burned up. My son does work for WalMart, but I used their batteries before that. I have run Interstates, DieHards, Gulf, Montgomery Wards, JC Penny, Champion, whatever AutoZone sells, whatever, O'Reilly sells, Delco, Atlas and probably some more. The Everstart are as good as any and better than most. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow Subject: Re: Batteries? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:26:22 -0500 I like everstart too. I haven't had any problems with them. I ran one in my mustang for a quite awhile and never burned up. I sold the car with the same battery when i bought the car. I now have a autozone *cheapo* in my other mustang and in my truck there's a Peterbilt wisconsin battery. (i'm from wisconsin). ne ways everstarts are good ... > > Does > > anyone have any input on battery brands that I should > > consider. > > I run WalMart Everstart on all my vehicles. I have had good service from the > batteries and good replacement allowance on the one my Towncar burned up. My > son does work for WalMart, but I used their batteries before that. I have > run Interstates, DieHards, Gulf, Montgomery Wards, JC Penny, Champion, > whatever AutoZone sells, whatever, O'Reilly sells, Delco, Atlas and probably > some more. The Everstart are as good as any and better than most. > > -- John > jlagrone > 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) > http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm > Dearborn iron rules!!!! > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Dutch." <dutchman Subject: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:41:11 +0100 Hi Dan, I have a '66 F100 longbed styleside. I agree with what you say about smog equipment and such like that was peculiar to the later model trucks and which is not relevant to the earlier model trucks. It does sometimes become a pain wading thru stuff on the list that is mainly about later models, but for some folks out there that want to keep their older trucks running and on the road there are often little gems of info that turn up that can assist in keeping the older trucks on the road using stuff from the later model trucks i.e.. brakes, suspension, carbs etc.. I think the main purpose of the list is to help us all keep our Ford trucks up and running and if that involves a little choppin' and changin' - that's fine by me. That said I intend keeping my truck stock (ish)! It'll be interesting to see what other people have to say with regard to your comments. Good luck with your truck. Dutch............. Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:58:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mandernack <danatgm_1999 Subject: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? Joe, I've got a stock '63 F100 4x4. This list does seem to get dominated by owners of the later vintages. Especially those who like to modify their trucks to death. If it was good enough for Ford in '63, it's good enough for me. If I wanted a new truck I'd just go out and buy one. I'd like to see a list just for the '61-'66's with an emphasis on restoration so I wouldn't have to wade through all the stuff about smog equipment and K&N airfilters (my oil bath has worked just fine for 37 years, thank you). Dan (and yes I do work at GM) ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 Subject: Fleetside/Flareside Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 13:41:03 -0500 Mel writes: >>. Didn't we have this discussion a while back with the Stepside vs Flareside debate?<< Yep!! Sure did and if memory serves me correctly it brought about as much "static" as did the filter debate..... Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ From: "clint kelland" <ckelland Subject: Re: "outside of frame" headers Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 11:58:33 -0700 you can check out "lmc truck catalog".you can get a catalog at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.lmctruck.com .these guys have headers in there. clint ---------- > From: Matt Senn <msenn > To: 61-79-list > Subject: [61-79-list] "outside of frame" headers > Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 10:26 AM > > i'm interested in getting some headers (at least for the passenger side) > that exit outside of the frame for a 73 f250 . . . does anyone know where to > get these, or if anyone can make them?? > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 Subject: Pushrod destroyed Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:03:46 -0500 Keith S. writes: >>Was running about 70 on the freeway. About 3200 RPM with the rear end gears in it.<< No way that should do any damage to an ole FE.. Gotta just be a fluke.. I'd replace it - inspect everything(lifter, rocker, ect..), change oil in it and try it again. May never happen again... Crank it up with the rocker cover off after you replace the pushrod and make sure that the valve is operating(going up and down) about equally with the others. Also make sure the pushrod is spinning while the engine is running(this clarifies that there is clearance in the lifter - not bottoming out - not necessarily proper clearance, but clearance). This will get oil all over everything on that side, but it might lead you to something else or ease your mind a bit.. Good luck, Azie Magnusson Ardmore, Al. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 05:58:26 -0700 From: Clare Waterman-Storer <waterman Subject: Re: Batteries? I went through this recently with exide batteires. i got a die-hard and have have no such problems. clare Dan Lee wrote: > The battery in my '53 is 37 months old. It is an > autostore 75? month battery. When then truck sits for > a couple of days, it doesn't start without a charge. I > know that the battery has reached its 36 month life, > in spite of the guarantee. I could take it back to > where I bought it, and get a few bucks off on another > POS(piece of s**t). I would rather spend a little more > and get a battery that will hold up for longer, as I > have no intention of ever replacing the vehicle. Does > anyone have any input on battery brands that I should > consider. Is Optima any good or just another gimmick? > How about Interstate? I like the idea of a sealed > unit. I don't need corrosion in my battery box. Also I > may go to a side terminal unit and use #2 AWG or #1 > AWG cables. > > Dan Lee > '53 F100 > 400C-4V > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com/ > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: waterman.vcf -- Desc: Card for Clare Waterman-Storer ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 06:00:06 -0700 From: Clare Waterman-Storer <waterman Subject: Re: Batteries? oh- I forgot to mention --dont be fooled- the exide company makes batteries for many other companies (like chain auto parts stores such as kragen also places like k-mart). look closely before you buy! clare Dan Lee wrote: > The battery in my '53 is 37 months old. It is an > autostore 75? month battery. When then truck sits for > a couple of days, it doesn't start without a charge. I > know that the battery has reached its 36 month life, > in spite of the guarantee. I could take it back to > where I bought it, and get a few bucks off on another > POS(piece of s**t). I would rather spend a little more > and get a battery that will hold up for longer, as I > have no intention of ever replacing the vehicle. Does > anyone have any input on battery brands that I should > consider. Is Optima any good or just another gimmick? > How about Interstate? I like the idea of a sealed > unit. I don't need corrosion in my battery box. Also I > may go to a side terminal unit and use #2 AWG or #1 > AWG cables. > > Dan Lee > '53 F100 > 400C-4V > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com/ > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: text/x-vcard -- File: waterman.vcf -- Desc: Card for Clare Waterman-Storer ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 15:13:25 EDT Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? The list traffic is generated by the questions or lack thereof. I don't recall seeing any recent requests for 61-66 information of late, save Joes original request. This doesn't have to be a spectator sport. You will get out of the list what you put into it. Thom 1967 F-Series Registry Proud sponsor of the Oil Bath Air Cleaner http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometwon.aol.com/tbeeee ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:20:27 -0700 From: Don Grossman <duckdon Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? >Joe, >I've got a stock '63 F100 4x4. This list does seem to >get dominated by owners of the later vintages. >Especially those who like to modify their trucks to >death. If it was good enough for Ford in '63, it's >good enough for me. If I wanted a new truck I'd just >go out and buy one. I'd like to see a list just for >the '61-'66's with an emphasis on restoration so I >wouldn't have to wade through all the stuff about smog >equipment and K&N airfilters (my oil bath has worked >just fine for 37 years, thank you). Dan (and yes I do work at GM) That has been discussed 3 or 4 times since I have been on the list and each time it has been shot down. I personally like the way it is set up new since i have some newer parts in my truck. The 60- ,and earlier list should have lots of good information regarding restoration. But the might not like you cross posting your "newer" truck an the older list. Just kidding. I'm sure they would be more than happy to help you out. But do you see what I mean, they could put up with a question that doesn't pertain to them. If you really can't stand the posts about smog pumps hit the delete button or create a filters that will delete posts with things you don't want to read about Don Grossman duckdon 63 F-100 4x4 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:29:08 -0400 From: Joe <shoman Subject: Re: Are there any 61-66 truck owners out there? I agree totally, Being an owner of a 68 and now my 61..its what you put into the list....If you don't ask and only sit back you will never get the answer you are looking for...I also would like to find out as much as possible about the 61-66 years since I seem to favor the 61 over the 68 now.(61 is a flareside, 4.56 gears, f-250) etc.. I'm amazed at what they used in these trucks in 61..Just have to get use to the Y block and the distributor in the back :( Joe TBeeee > The list traffic is generated by the questions or lack thereof. I don't > recall seeing any recent requests for 61-66 information of late, save Joes > original request. This doesn't have to be a spectator sport. You will get > out of the list what you put into it. > > Thom > 1967 F-Series Registry > Proud sponsor of the Oil Bath Air Cleaner > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometwon.aol.com/tbeeee > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "Dave Emerick" <djemerick Subject: Re: New option... Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:06:53 EST >From: "Mike Mackie" <bigred >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 09:20:55 -0600 >Subject: New option... >Hey, did you guys hear about ch*vs new heated tailgate option for >trucks >sold >in the northern states? Keeps the guys pushing from freezing their > >hands.... I'm still laughin.......can't wait to use this with a buddy...... _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 14:28:09 -0600 From: "Randy Cannon" <rcannon Subject: Re: Burps fuel out My '79 f250 leaks in the reverse direction- rear to front, but no 'burping'. > I have a '78 F250 with dual factory tanks. If I fill both tanks full, the > rear will burp several gallons out during the night. Any ideas why? > > My guess is a bad valve allowing the front tank to slowly leak into the rear tank. It is > very easy to change out, and not really that expensive from your local Motor Home (RV) > dealer.. ------------------------------ From: "MARTY COLMAN" <colman76 Subject: No more clouds of white smoke Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 20:35:09 GMT For those of you who remember, about 3 weeks ago my 390 started sucking antifreeze and steaming out the tailpipe - A LOT! I pulled the heads and found a blown head gasket, and three sunken exhaust valves. The motor is a Marshall rebuild with about 80k on it. The three bad exhaust valves had never had hardened seats put in them, I assumed that would be automatic on '69 390 heads! So I had hardened seats put in, new guides, valves and seals, along with the normal cleaning, surfacing and crack check. Sure is nice to have a guy I grew up with own the local machine shop!;-) All went back together great, until I started it. I expected some smoke, my heart sunk as I watched it smoke and smoke and smoke...and smoke somemore. It didn't even ease up, just pumping it out like a steam locamotive! Drove it 3 miles down the road, still spewing out just as much. I finally thought of what is was, my glasspacks must have been soaked with anitfreeze, took me over 3 days to get it all burned out. All is well now - so far... Just wanted to share my story, thanks for listening. Marty '73 390 with 'new' heads _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com. ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: Re: No more clouds of white smoke Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 16:03:09 -0500 Congratulations on your repair! A Ch#vy guy would've said,"Time for another engine!" Jason Kendrick MARTY COLMAN wrote; All is well now - so far... > Marty > '73 390 with 'new' heads > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:29:50 -0400 From: Joe <shoman Subject: positive or negative ground??? Group 61 truck positive or negative grounded????AND what was Ford's reason for putting the battery in the flloor of the pass side cab???? Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 14:39:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Eric Finn <ecfinn Subject: New '79 F-350 in the stable! Well gang I just put a deposit down on a '79 F-350 4x4 that I saw in my local paper. I pick it up Saturday AM. It seems to be exactly what I was looking for to supplement my current Bronco project. It's 4-wheel drive so if I don't get my Bronco done in time for winter I'll have a backup plan. Its got a 460 with a C6 in it so if I ever decide to get rid of it I can rebuild the engine and swap it into my Bronco. It also has a stake body type flat-bed conversion instead of a standard pickup bed. The bed floor is like 4' off the ground. It has a rusty roll-cage and dual stack exhaust pipes behind the cab. Its also got relatively new 35" BFG AT's. It seemed to be in good shape with a possible clunk in the driveline when shifting Drive to Reverse in 4-Hi and 4-Lo. I'm thinking a u-joint in the front d-shaft. Its not currently inspected (last inspected in '98) but I'm buying it from the second owner who's had it since 1984. Its got some brake problems so they will need to be addressed before it gets inspected and a few other minor issues as well. And, get this, he's throwing in all the spare parts he's accumulated over the years, a half rebuilt 351M with high-rise intake, spare C6 tranny, a set of 4-40" tires, the front steering shaft that runs between the two hubs (I don't know what its called) :-(, and whatever else he's got laying around. I'm getting the whole lot for $1200. Is that a decent deal? I figure that if I parted this out the parts alone could be worth close to that price. So what axles does a '79 F-350 4x4 have in it? What else can you tell me about the '79 F-350? I'm thinking it'll be emissions exempt since its GVWR is like 8550 or something like that. Is that right? Oh well gotta go. Just thought I'd share my latest purchase with ya'll and see what the general consensus is regarding it. So is it at least a decent buy or did I get hood-winked. Later, Eric Finn (who needs another vehicle like I need a hole in the head) '78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project STILL in Progress!) .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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