Received: with LISTAR (v0.129a; list 61-79-list); Sat, 07 Oct 2000 14:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 14:40:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list digest users <listar ford-trucks.com>
Reply-to: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #281
Precedence: list

==========================================================
Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck  Mailing  List

Visit our  web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com

To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject  of  the
message.
==========================================================

------------------------------------
61-79-list Digest Fri, 06 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 281

In This Issue:
Re: hot starter problems
Hard to restart when hot???
Re: hot starter problems
hot starter problems
L and L web site
Re: Gas in Oil
Re: 460 Headers
Hard to restart when hot???
Re: website for 460 engine mounts
Re: Gas in Oil
Re: Gas in Oil
Re: emissions control
Re: emissions control
Re: hot starter problems
Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Swap Meet
427 SOHC
Re: Gas in Oil
Re: 427 SOHC
Re: 427 SOHC
Re: 427 SOHC
Re: 427 SOHC
Re: brake hoses
Re: brake hoses
Re: 427 SOHC
Gas burps from rear tank
Fw: Custom rim sizes for '66 Ford F100 Longbed Fleetside.
Re: Gas burps from rear tank
Re: emissions control Now cost of smog pump
Re: Any other 61-66  F-250 4x4 owners out there
RE; Hard to restart when hot......
Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Re: Anodizing remover
Re: While we're talking about fuel tanks...
Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Re: RE; Hard to restart when hot......
Re: paper air filters (re-use?)

----------------------------------------------------------------------

From: "Southerland, Rich" <rsouther alldata.com>
Subject: Re: hot starter problems
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 13:45:27 -0700

If you replace the battery cables, get the larger gauge cables.  You can
replace all three cables (neg, pos batt to solenoid, pos solenoid to
starter) for about $30 (2 gauge) versus $15 for the stock 4 or 6 gauge.
This would help your problem as well...

-----Original Message-----
From: wish [mailto:wish ford-trucks.net]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 12:36 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: hot starter problems

>how about this related problem-  my starter has trouble when the engine is
hot

>and i have to idle for a while.  i.e.  if im sitting in a long line of
traffic

>(over 1/2 an hour) the truck will want to stall.  when it does, the starter

>BARELY wants to kick it over.

If it starts warm okay normally, but when you're sitting still it causes
problems,
then it does indeed sound like a heat soaked starter.  Also be sure and
check
all the cables too, it could be that they're just getting that much warmer
and
the whole thing is causing problems ... I have to wonder why its dying on
you
anyway ... sounds like 2 problems ...

> by the
>way, i have headers.  is this normal behavior for a starter?

Unfortunately the headers are probably not helping the situation ... its not
normal, but its not uncommon ... its not supposed to do that either.

> should i replace
>it?

Probably, if its getting bad about doing this.

>  do those starter heat shields really work?

Wouldn't be a bad idea, I've never used one, but never had this problem
either.



When the truck gets ready to stall, is it overheating, or vapor locking on
you
?  just curious if its a sudden stall or what ... sometimes you sit idling
for
a while then step on the gas and poof its vapor locked, it can keep enough
cool
fuel comin through at idle, but more than that or an accelerator squirt and
its done for ... one old truck for the stangs was a couple of clothespins on
the fuel line to help dissipate the heat... Carrie says she did this on her
Camaro too and it worked, but probably should fix the problem rather than
just
patch it if you know what's causing it...
Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

------------------------------

From: "JX Schulz" <bdijxs bridgetest.com>
Subject: Hard to restart when hot???
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 14:55:21 -0600

I gotta jump in here.....try an electric fuel pump, it made ALL of my hot
engine problems disappear (FE).....Its just so much better to push the fuel
rather than pull it....

CJ


------------------------------

From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: hot starter problems
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 17:04:43 -0400

If you replace the battery cables, get the larger gauge cables.  You can
> replace all three cables (neg, pos batt to solenoid, pos solenoid to
> starter) for about $30 (2 gauge) versus $15 for the stock 4 or 6 gauge.
> This would help your problem as well...
=======================================================
if your going to replace the starter cables make your own up with i think
its 00 or 000 welding cable with lugs crimped on them they will work much
better than any OEMs you can buy and will take all the heat and current you
can put thru them i did this once to a C---Y that was having hot start
troubles and it put an end to all of them
gordon



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 16:07:22 -0500
Subject: Re: emissions control Now cost of smog pump
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> Disclaimer:  I do not promote or endorse the removal, modification, or
> tampering of mandated emission control components. (whew!) :)

Now that you mention it, neither do I. I was only relating an anecdotal
experience.

Have a great weekend!!


-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

------------------------------

From: "JX Schulz" <bdijxs bridgetest.com>
Subject: hot starter problems
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 15:25:29 -0600

Clare,

I had the same exact thing happen, and I have headers as well, shorties,
that are close to the starter. I discovered that rebuilt starters are
basically junk and are really susceptible to heat problems....Two things I
did were find a NEW high quality starter (I wish I could remember the name
for you, but it eludes me at the minute....but I heard Bosch makes good new
ones) and then wrapped it with the starter heat protector stuff. To do this,
I used both hose clamps and some of that aluminum tape on the end...The
whole deal is a hassle, especially if you have to pull the headers to get
the starter out (which you need to, by the way, with Sandersons). But, I
don't think it's as much as a hassle as being stuck in Mexico.....

Hope this helps!!!!

CJ


------------------------------

From: "Rob Hutson" <tx4wheeler cs.com>
Subject: L and L web site
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 16:14:19 -0500

Here is the address for L and L

www.landlproducts.com


Robert Hutson (TX4Wheeler)
1978 Ford Bronco
2BigBroncos South Chapter
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.xoom.com/hutsonr


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:40:03 -0400
From: "JB MCIWorld" <jeffrey.bennett mciworld.com>
Subject: Re: Gas in Oil

John,
That's it, I just had a fuel pump go out which I replaced. Never
thought of that, thanks

jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
> [mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of John LaGrone
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 11:03 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Gas in Oil
>
>
> CARGO MATS FOR PICKUPS & SUVS - Keep your stuff
> from sliding around! Click below for more info!
> <a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com">www.workingmat.com</a>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> >> Help,
> >>  I just rebuilt the 302 in my 72 f100, and changed the break in oil
> >> last night. I noticed it seemed thin and had a gas smell to it. Any
> >> ideas? Could it be in the intake or gas blowing by the rings before
> >> they seated? The engine has been running great since the rebuild, no
> >> smoking or noticeable oil consumption.
>
> Jeff, did you have too much oil when you drained it? Another
> possibility is
> a ruptured fuel pump diaphragm letting gasoline into the crank case. BTDT.
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
> 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.
>
>


------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:32:07 EDT
Subject: Re: 460 Headers

In a message dated 10/5/00 6:22:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
nukegm ford-trucks.com writes:

<<
Anyone have the URL or telephone number for L and L??
I have a buddy in Bethel Springs TN who is looking to drop a 460 in his 79
4x4 - he needs some motor mounts.
 >>

This may have already been answered.  Phone # 972-475-5202
I do not believe they have a URL, if they do I too would like to know it.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 19:42:34 -0400
From: "O'Connor" <theoconnors mindspring.com>
Subject: Hard to restart when hot???

Awhile back, I polled the list and compiled a trouble shooting chart for
hard starting when hot.  Since then, it got cut accidentally from my hard
drive.  Would it be in the archives or did someone save the chart?  If
anyone finds it, please forward it to the list so I can redo it on my
computer.  In the mean time, the discription from PJ is a good place to start:
"If it cranks over slowly, it has small amounts of antifreeze being pulled in
through the head gasket. This will gum up the cylinders until the oil/fuel
mixture washes it off. If it cranks fast then hold the throtle to the mat
while cranking. If it starts immediately, then the carb is too rich at the
mid and low speed circuits. Also if it cranks fast and starts slowly then
the static timing could also be set to retarded."
Tim

------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:45:50 EDT
Subject: Re: website for 460 engine mounts

In a message dated 10/5/00 6:56:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
xavetarx home.com writes:

<< if you want to check out the site to see the engine mounts, here it is:
 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://performanceunlimited.com/customproducts/enginemount.html >>

I just checked this site out and in my opinion this looks like a very good
deal.  I have spent a lot of money at L&L this looks like a competitor.  The
destroyed mount this page shows looks just like my L&L mount.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 19:59:42 EDT
Subject: Re: Gas in Oil

Sounds like it is flooding itself out. Maybe the float in the carb. is to
high allowing excess gas to get into the cylinders which will wash past the
rings taking along with it any oil that's on the walls.  Just a thought but
worth checking out.

------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:08:39 EDT
Subject: Re: Gas in Oil

In a message dated 10/6/00 5:56:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jeffrey.bennett mciworld.com writes:

<<
> Help,
>  I just rebuilt the 302 in my 72 f100, and changed the break in oil
> last night. I noticed it seemed thin and had a gas smell to it. Any
> ideas? Could it be in the intake or gas blowing by the rings before
> they seated? The engine has been running great since the rebuild, no
> smoking or noticeable oil consumption.
>
> thanks
> jeff >>

It is very doubtful the fuel is coming through the rings unless you black
smoke coming from the tail pipe continuously.  Usually, the temperature of
the oil keeps most of the fuel evaporated.  So what I am saying is that it
sounds like it is going in faster that it is going out.  The fuel pump may
have a leaking diaphragm which can result in fuel being pumped into the
engine.  Generally there is a vent hole on the top of the pump to prevent
this, but it can get plugged.  Other things that could deliver a lot of fuel
is the boiling of the fuel in the carb after shut down, or leaky needle valve
bleeding down the fuel pressure with a intake valve or two open, it is a down
hill run to the cylinders from the carb.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:19:36 EDT
Subject: Re: emissions control

Thanks for the info.  Wasn't sure of the specifics.

------------------------------

From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:27:53 EDT
Subject: Re: emissions control


Definitely a good thought, and less expensive.

------------------------------

From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:36:26 EDT
Subject: Re: hot starter problems

I second that thought I got 00 cable on my 351W and I don't no more problems.

------------------------------

From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:44:32 EDT
Subject: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ

Hey all!!  I just picked up a 1979 F-250 Ranger XLT 4x4.  I will part it out
this weekend, so if anybody needs parts.....let me know.  It has the
following:  4.10 gears in a Dana 44 Front,  4.10 gear in a Dana 60 (Don't
know if its a Trac-Loc...Yet),  300 Straight 6 Cylinder,  Factory Air
Conditioning (Will put on EBAY complete with part of the firewall for a
template to convert a 1973-1979 F-series to A/C.....ALL PARTS down to the
screws, 4 speed stick trans (NP435 or T18...not sure yet),  NP205 Transfer
Case, Front & Rear Driveshafts,  Power Steering Box,  Myers Plow (Sorry its
Sold)  ETC.     The body is trashed....it looks like it was sitting for years
under a tree.  There's even a small tree growing in the bed!!  I don't have
any fixed prices YET...but give me a shot!!!  Thanks Again!!

------------------------------

From: "Radoje Spasojevic" <rspasoje mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:16:39 -0700

I'd be interested in the e-brake bracket (darn pot metal... ) if you want to
part with it.

Radoje Spasojevic
"Nerves of Steel, Brains of Chipmunk"
'90XLT-351W-AOD-BW1356-Dana44-Ford8.8(Lockright)-3.55
'83Custom-300-Clark4spd-NP208-Dana44-Ford8.8"-3.08
'76F-250 Crew Cab-390FE-NP435-NP205-Dana 60-Dana 60-4.10
'87Eddie Bauer-No engine-No tranny-No t-case-No axles-No front clip
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.2bigbroncos.org
--Rubicon tested--
**********************************
-----Original Message-----
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com <FORDTRKNUT aol.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 5:42 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ


>CARGO MATS FOR PICKUPS & SUVS - Keep your stuff
>from sliding around! Click below for more info!
><a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com">www.workingmat.com</a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>Hey all!!  I just picked up a 1979 F-250 Ranger XLT 4x4.  I will part it
out
>this weekend, so if anybody needs parts.....let me know.  It has the
>following:  4.10 gears in a Dana 44 Front,  4.10 gear in a Dana 60 (Don't
>know if its a Trac-Loc...Yet),  300 Straight 6 Cylinder,  Factory Air
>Conditioning (Will put on EBAY complete with part of the firewall for a
>template to convert a 1973-1979 F-series to A/C.....ALL PARTS down to the
>screws, 4 speed stick trans (NP435 or T18...not sure yet),  NP205 Transfer
>Case, Front & Rear Driveshafts,  Power Steering Box,  Myers Plow (Sorry its
>Sold)  ETC.     The body is trashed....it looks like it was sitting for
years
>under a tree.  There's even a small tree growing in the bed!!  I don't have
>any fixed prices YET...but give me a shot!!!  Thanks Again!!
>=============================================================
>To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
>Please remove this footer when replying.
>


------------------------------

From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 18:45:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Swap Meet

       Anyone in the NW going to the Monroe, Washington
swap meet this weekend??

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


------------------------------

From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:28:17 EDT
Subject: 427 SOHC

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=454059484&r=

0&t=0

I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67?  If
my bid is successful, should I install a K&N or paper element filter (Sorry,
I couldn't resist!)?
Go Yankees!

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee

------------------------------

From: "Serian" <serian mailandnews.com>
Subject: Re: Gas in Oil
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:49:39 -0400

> Help,
>  I just rebuilt the 302 in my 72 f100, and changed the break in oil
> last night. I noticed it seemed thin and had a gas smell to it. Any
> ideas? Could it be in the intake or gas blowing by the rings before
> they seated? The engine has been running great since the rebuild, no
> smoking or noticeable oil consumption.

Bad fuel pump ...
If the diaphragm of the fuel pump ruptures, it will let gas into the oil.
It may rupture only enough to flood your oil pan with gas, too, and
still pump enough fuel to the carb to keep it running without a noticeable
problem.



------------------------------

From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: 427 SOHC
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:54:47 -0500

I drooled all over my monitor, hehe.

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of TBeeee aol.com
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 9:28 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] 427 SOHC


CARGO MATS FOR PICKUPS & SUVS - Keep your stuff
from sliding around! Click below for more info!
<a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.workingmat.com">www.workingmat.com</a>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=454059484&
r=

0&t=0

I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67?
If
my bid is successful, should I install a K&N or paper element filter (Sorry,
I couldn't resist!)?
Go Yankees!

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
=============================================================
To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
Please remove this footer when replying.



------------------------------

From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 427 SOHC
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 23:23:44 -0400

I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67?
> Thom
=============================================================
it will fit perfectly
lets hope you can handle it tho
they can put out 600 h.p. if built right
gordon




------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 20:46:55 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: 427 SOHC

>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=454059484&r=
>
>0&t=0
>
>I'm thinking about bidding; Anybody know how well this would fit in a 67?  If
>my bid is successful, should I install a K&N or paper element filter (Sorry,
>I couldn't resist!)?
>Go Yankees!
>
>Thom

Bidding is up to $11,000 and climbing.  Go for it DUDE!  ;)

--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

------------------------------

From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 427 SOHC
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:06:44 -0400

i just looked at the 427 you are speaking of this is only the 2nd one i have
seen YET they were outlawed before they could ever compete in daytona even
and at 600h.p. they were still under rated they are actually a hemi engine
gordon



------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:01:25 EDT
Subject: Re: brake hoses



------------------------------

From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 00:10:52 EDT
Subject: Re: brake hoses

I want to thank those that offered ideas for the front brake hoses on a 72
F-250 4x4.  As it turns out I have not been fully successful yet.  But I did
check out several suggestions, PageBrake.com was very friendly and helpful
but could not come up with my particular hoses.  The Raybestos part # almost
got it, they are 5 inches too short.  So I am moving the point where the
hoses connect to the brake lines out 5 inches and getting longer steel lines.
For what ever reason Ford must have made the set up that I have for only a
short period of time.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 21:16:44 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: 427 SOHC

This guy has a bunch of other cool stuff also.  A 427 dual/quad
lowriser with carbs and air cleaner for $550.  He really like his
toys!
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

------------------------------

From: "Steve and Fran" <smithsf offspringnet.net>
Subject: Gas burps from rear tank
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:49:30 -0600

I have a '78 F250 with dual factory tanks.  If I fill both tanks full, the
rear will burp several gallons out during the night.  Any ideas why?

Steve Smith


------------------------------

From: "Dutch." <dutchman esatclear.ie>
Subject: Fw: Custom rim sizes for '66 Ford F100 Longbed Fleetside.
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:32:35 +0100




Hello again  list,

I intend replacing the stock rims and tyres on my 2WD '66 F100 longbed
fleetside with custom wheels. What is the biggest rim width and tyre size
both back and front that I can go with out fouling the wheelarches?
I have stock suspension on my truck.
Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Dutch.........


------------------------------

From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Gas burps from rear tank
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 04:47:06 -0700

   Both of my 69 F250's had the same problem with all 4 fuel tanks. I
removed all the fuel fill tubes and welded a restrictor plate inside each
tube. This modification shuts the gas pump off about 2 gallons sooner than a
stock fill tube.

Michael
69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 LS
69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> I have a '78 F250 with dual factory tanks.  If I fill both tanks full, the
> rear will burp several gallons out during the night.  Any ideas why?
>
> Steve Smith


------------------------------

From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: emissions control Now cost of smog pump
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:31:07 -0400

Disclaimer:  I do not promote or endorse the removal, modification, or
> > tampering of mandated emission control components. (whew!) :)
=================================================
I DO
a good pre emission system working right will put out Less pollution than
this new junk does
by the way have any of you thought of this OZONE layer garbage they are
trying to shove down our throats well electric motors put out Ozone with as
many of them as there is i cant see where this shortage should be
gordon



------------------------------

From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Any other 61-66  F-250 4x4 owners out there
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 08:33:09 -0400




>
> Well with my new 61 f-250 4x4 flareside , i was wondering if there are
> any other
> people on the list with these years especiall the earlier years
> 61-64....
> Joe
=============================================================
just saw a fella on the Y Block list saying he had one of these trucks and
was asking questions about it
gordon



------------------------------

From: "paul williams" <williams22470 hotmail.com>
Subject: RE; Hard to restart when hot......
Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 06:40:42 PDT

From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>Subject: Re: Hard to restart when
hot???
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:13:19 -0700    Sounds like retarded timing.BTDT
Michael

I checked the timing and it shows 3 degrees BTDC. The tune up specs call for
4 but it will start to ping if I get past that at all so I stay at
3....Would 1 degree make this happen?  I have had lots of great input on
this so far and I think I am having a heat soak problem from what I can
determine..... Thanks everybody!
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hotmail.com.

Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://profiles.msn.com.


------------------------------

From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:53:03 EDT
Subject: Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ

In a message dated 10/06/00 8:46:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
FORDTRKNUT aol.com writes:

<< Sold)  ETC.     The body is trashed....it looks like it was sitting for
years
under a tree.  There's even a small tree growing in the bed!!  I don't have
any fixed prices YET...but give me a shot!!!  Thanks Again >>

How much for the Tree in Bed option. Cant cay I've ever seen one of those
models before ;-)

George M in Fl.

------------------------------

From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:41:59 -0500
Subject: Re: Anodizing remover

That's what's nice about using a product designed for anodizing removal.
Although still toxic and dangerous to inhale or get on your skin, if you
follow directions and use it properly it won't harm the base metal and
will remove the anodized surface coating in a few minutes. Then you can
rinse it well, re polish it and either put it back on the truck, or clear
it and then remount it. I've used it for years with no ill effects. I
WOULD however use it outdoors if at all possible. Later, Phil (64 F-100
63 Galaxie)

=========================================================================
==
> The factory aluminum trim has a clear anodization to protect it. But
after many years, the > > pieces develop what some have described as a
"milky" haze.
>Stripping the anodization is tricky because if the solvent sits on too
long, it can
> damage the metal. I have used EZ-Off HD oven cleaner. This stuff is
more
> toxic than it's use would imply. It's powerful and really burns like
h***,
> so use gloves and goggles and work outdoors if possible. Just spraying
the
> can once allowed some mist to drift into my eyes. That's the last time
I didn't
> use goggles. Don
>
________________________________________________________________
YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET!
Juno now offers FREE Internet Access!
Try it today - there's no risk!  For your FREE software, visit:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

------------------------------

From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: While we're talking about fuel tanks...
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:52:44 -0500

How big are the fuel tanks on the 79 f-250's *single tank*
because when i'm on Empty and i fill it up it only takes 11 gallons
>
> The gauge on my single-tank f-150 is that way.  Reads around 3/4 when full
> and goes a proportionate amount below Empty on the other end.  No idea
> why, just thought I'd let you know your truck ain't the only one that
> does it.
>
> --sean
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.
>


------------------------------

From: "Don Thurlow" <don.thurlow greenbaynet.com>
Subject: Re: Parting Out 1979 F250 Ranger XLT 4x4 in NJ
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 09:55:43 -0500

i'd be intrested in teh inline 6. with the tranny and transfer case..
well maybe just the engine
>
> Hey all!!  I just picked up a 1979 F-250 Ranger XLT 4x4.  I will part it
out
> this weekend, so if anybody needs parts.....let me know.  It has the
> following:  4.10 gears in a Dana 44 Front,  4.10 gear in a Dana 60 (Don't
> know if its a Trac-Loc...Yet),  300 Straight 6 Cylinder,  Factory Air
> Conditioning (Will put on EBAY complete with part of the firewall for a
> template to convert a 1973-1979 F-series to A/C.....ALL PARTS down to the
> screws, 4 speed stick trans (NP435 or T18...not sure yet),  NP205 Transfer
> Case, Front & Rear Driveshafts,  Power Steering Box,  Myers Plow (Sorry
its
> Sold)  ETC.     The body is trashed....it looks like it was sitting for
years
> under a tree.  There's even a small tree growing in the bed!!  I don't
have
> any fixed prices YET...but give me a shot!!!  Thanks Again!!
> =============================================================
> To  unsubscribe:   www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3
> Please remove this footer when replying.
>


------------------------------

From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: RE; Hard to restart when hot......
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 11:21:01 -0700

I didn't read every post but didn't notice percolation mentioned as a
possible cause.  I think Wish hiit it on the head though, if it only happens
when standing idle with engine idling then starter heat soak is probably
right but if it happens after running normally, driving into a parking lot,
running into the store for a few minutes and running back out to start it
then percolation due to "Intake" heat soak may be the cause.  This is very
common on the 335 and 385 series of engines, expecially the 335 (351M/400).
In this case the "Soak" period which affects starting is roughly 10 minutes
and starts about 5 minutes after you shut it off.  If it were the starter it
would likely not start immediately either.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> I checked the timing and it shows 3 degrees BTDC. The tune up specs call
for
> 4 but it will start to ping if I get past that at all so I stay at
> 3....Would 1 degree make this happen?  I have had lots of great input on
> this so far and I think I am having a heat soak problem from what I can
> determine..... Thanks everybody!



------------------------------

From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: paper air filters (re-use?)
Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 15:32:02 -0700

I've done this many times myself both with vehicles and mowers etc..
There's nothing wrong with getting a little more live out of them but beware
that you shoul always blow them out from the inside or the reverse of the
direction that the dirt got in there in the first place.  You should not
blow it inward since this will force the dirt deeper into the paper with
much greater force than normal aspiration would.

Another negative aspect of paper elements is that once they have been wet
the fibers swell up more or less permanently.  When they dry they shrink
some but never back to the original condition so use care when washing the
engine area and change them more often if you have the open element type
(hot rod after market stuff) since these will most  likely get more rain
water on them in the course of normal street use.  The stock type with
enclosed element and snorkle inlet will probably last a lot longer in this
respect.

Once the moisture damage has been done the dirt is harder to get out as well
so changing them is the only option in that case.

As to what flows more air "There aint no free lunch".......either you have
more protection or you have more air or......you can have both if the
element has enough surface area to allow more air flow.  Large diameter
paper filters have convoluted elements which allow perhaps as much as 100
times more surface for air to flow through than foam types or less
convoluted cotton types so to get the air flow the paper ones get you have
to open up the pores, that is allow larger particles to get through.......it
becomes a compromise for better performance.  I'm not accusing any ....


To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts

Registration is free, easy and gives you access to more features.
If you are not registered, click here to register.
If you are already registered, you can login here.

If you are already logged in and are seeing this message, your web browser is blocking session cookies. Change your browser cookie settings to allow session cookies.




Advertising - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Jobs

This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. Ford is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.