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61-79-list Digest Thu, 05 Oct 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 279

In This Issue:
Re: The Muny Pit
Re: paper air filters (re-use?)
Re: emissions control
Pitman Arm
Re: Pitman Arm
Re: paper air filters (re-use?)
wheel cylinders
Re: paper air filters (re-use?)
Re: paper air filters
Re: paper air filters
Re: paper air filters
Re: 460 Headers
Re: paper air filters
Re: 460 Motor Mounts
Re: FT's and FE's- lots of ????s
website for 460 engine mounts
Re: 460 Headers
Hard to restart when hot???
Re: OEM tires
Re: OEM tires
Re: Hard to restart when hot???
Re: Hard to restart when hot???
cleaning aluminum trim
Re: FT's and FE's- lots of ????s
Re: Anodizing remover, source
Anodizing vs. Oxidizing
Re: emissions control
Re: side trim mouldings
Gas in Oil
Re: emissions control
Re: Pitman Arm
Re: While we're talking about fuel tanks...
Re: paper air filters
Subject: Re: paper air filters
Re: emissions control

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:31:54 EDT
Subject: Re: The Muny Pit

Defiantly sounds like a ring or part of one.

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:31:19 EDT
Subject: Re: paper air filters (re-use?)

You don't advocate re-using paper element filters do you Ken?

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
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"Pit Stop" Ken rushed out:

> Paper elements can also be blown out with compressed air and
>  used again in under a minute.

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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:38:28 EDT
Subject: Re: emissions control

I thought that F250 didn't incorporate emissions until 1980 when it was no
longer considered just a commercial vechile.

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:40:54 -0400
From: "O'Connor" <theoconnors mindspring.com>
Subject: Pitman Arm

Do you know the Ford Part Number?  Tim

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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 17:55:49 -0700
From: Don Grossman <duckdon mac.com>
Subject: Re: Pitman Arm

>
>Hey your not alone.  Since I lifted my F250 the factory one don't cut it
>anymore. I've around and ain't been able to locate one.  Would really
>appreciate any help.

Are you two looking for stock pitman arms or dropped steering arms.
If you have a list there is a dropped drag link 4"-6" and you can use
a raised steering block that makes up about 3".  If you have the 78-9
you can use a raised steering arm with some draglink and shock
modifications.

--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:55:56 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: paper air filters (re-use?)


>You don't advocate re-using paper element filters do you Ken?

I am advocating extending the usable life of them by blowing
off excess dirt.  I'm >>not<< talking about keeping them in the
truck for 2x or more than standard life.  But you can get a
couple extra thousand out of them this way and I've seen various
shop and owner's manuals over the years that recommended it.

Ken


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: wheel cylinders
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:07:49 -0400

the other day someone mentioned Page Brake in Salt Lake City as a good
source for brake parts
well i contacted them about wheel cylinders for my 69 that i want to use 1
ton cylinders on they wanted 45.00 each for them and they were special order
at our local Advance Auto Parts store here they are 11.00 each and in stock
gordon



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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: paper air filters (re-use?)
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:12:21 -0400

>You don't advocate re-using paper element filters do you Ken?
>
> I am advocating extending the usable life of them by blowing
> off excess dirt.  I'm >>not<< talking about keeping them in the
> truck for 2x or more than standard life.  But you can get a
> couple extra thousand out of them this way and I've seen various
> shop and owner's manuals over the years that recommended it.
>
> Ken
-----------------------
in my manual for my 62 t bird they advise to blow the filter out every 3000
miles or in between filter changes
from the factory
gordon



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From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
Subject: Re: paper air filters
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:09:27 +1000

What is a filter restriction gauge ?


John


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To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: 6 October 2000 09:08
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: paper air filters


>
> > All of the arguments/discussions have been good, but I stick by my
> original
> > postulation: For the typical stock 61-79 F150 through F250 used as a
daily
> > driver on paved roads at legal speeds, the K&N offers no major advantage
> > over regular replacement of paper elements.
> I was going through 2 paper filters a month at $10 a piece.  Normal back
and
> forth to work driving, no wheeling.  I paid $26 for a K&N that I cleaned
> every oil change.  I'm not sure about any performance or mileage
advantage,
> but it's paid for itself many times over.  It's now not a typical daily
> driver anymore but I put a K&N filter on it with the new 5.0 and I expect
> the same results.
>
> > Those of you that are screaming cost savings aren't figuring in your own
> > labor spent cleaning the K&N. I can replace my paper element in under a
> > minute.
> Lets see, it takes a whole 10 minutes to clean my filter, 2-4 times a
year,
> usually at an oil change.  Thats less than an hour. $26 filter and the $15
> cleaning stuff for an initial investment.  About $50 a year to clean,
> including my time. Two filters a month, that would be 24 a year.  Right
> there is $240, just for the filter.  Lets figure I cleaned them once a
> piece. That's still $120, plus labor.  BTW, I have a filter restriction
> gauge that I went by to tell when the filters were plugged, so I wasn't
just
> letting the K&N's go longer.
>
>  Jason
> '69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
> '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD
> Happiness is a handful of warm deer guts
>
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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 18:11:18 -0700
From: Dennis Pearson <dpearson ctc.edu>
Subject: Re: paper air filters



John Watson wrote:

>
> What is a filter restriction gauge ?

..a light bulb in my garage...(:>)

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: paper air filters
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:20:12 -0400

What is a filter restriction gauge ?
>
>
> John
-----------------------------------------------
it measures how hard the engine has to suck to get the air into it thru the
filter OR lbs of water vacuume i think its called most class 8 trucks have
them to be able to tell when the filter is being restricted enough to need
changed
gordon



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:20:06 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: 460 Headers

Anyone have the URL or telephone number for L and L??
I have a buddy in Bethel Springs TN who is looking to drop a 460 in his 79
4x4 - he needs some motor mounts.

Thanks

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm   (for sale!!!)


At 05:15 PM 10/5/00 CDT, you wrote:
>Hey Guys!
>
>I went to L&L Products last week to see what they could tell me about 460
>headers for my 67'F100 2 wheel drive.

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From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
Subject: Re: paper air filters
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 12:33:01 +1000

thanks


john

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Sent: 6 October 2000 11:20
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: paper air filters


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>
> What is a filter restriction gauge ?
> >
> >
> > John
> -----------------------------------------------
> it measures how hard the engine has to suck to get the air into it thru
the
> filter OR lbs of water vacuume i think its called most class 8 trucks have
> them to be able to tell when the filter is being restricted enough to need
> changed
> gordon
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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: Re: 460 Motor Mounts
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:40:13 -0400

I have a set from performance unlimited.  They are brand new, not yet been
used.  I don't think I'll be using them any time soon (if at all) and can
sell them to you (or him).  They are for a 460 swap into a 79 Bronco.


------------------------------------------


Anyone have the URL or telephone number for L and L??
I have a buddy in Bethel Springs TN who is looking to drop a 460 in his 79
4x4 - he needs some motor mounts.

Thanks

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm   (for sale!!!)



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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FT's and FE's- lots of ????s
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:47:11 -0500

 I should have thought about what tranny you were going to use. An
automatic will very probably not work because of the thicker flange on the
crank. If you take the crank out of the block, you can have the flange
thinned at a good machine shop so that a C6 will work. That'd also be a good
time to replace the bearings and oil pump. The NP435 is an excellent choice,
however it is one of those long throw truck transmissions.
Jason Kendrick

Nate wrote;
I suppose that would means that without mods I would be limited to a
sluggish, long-throw big truck tranny if  I used an FT block.. that's bad
Nate



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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: website for 460 engine mounts
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:56:27 -0400

if you want to check out the site to see the engine mounts, here it is:

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://performanceunlimited.com/customproducts/enginemount.html

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From: "Luke Phillips" <lukes67ford hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: 460 Headers
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 20:57:15 CDT

Stu,
Here is the address and phone # to L&L.

                 L&L Products Inc.         Phone# (972) 475-5202
                 3210 Century Drive         Fax#  (972) 475-8063
                 Rowlett,TX 75088

Sorry, no web address. Thanks... I hope this helps

Luke Phillips
67 F100 short bed 240 I6 (460 in the works!) 2001 Super Nats Bound!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
>Anyone have the URL or telephone number for L and L??
>I have a buddy in Bethel Springs TN who is looking to drop a 460 in his 79
>4x4 - he needs some motor mounts.
>
>Thanks
>
>Stu
>Nuke GM!
>http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm   (for sale!!!)

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From: "paul williams" <williams22470 hotmail.com>
Subject: Hard to restart when hot???
Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 19:02:20 PDT

  Im having some problems resarting my engine after it is hot.... Starts
very easy when it is cold or has only been running for a few minutes but
after the thermostsat has opened it takes quite a bit of cranking to come
back to life.....  The engine in question is a '70 429. RV cam,Performer
intake and Carter AFB....Otherwise pretty much stock. (Please Lord, let this
query be the one that puts an end to the paper/KN filter dispute.... Many of
us cant take it any more ;-)~  ) Hey! Did I just type that????  =P   Thanks
in advance,  Paul
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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: OEM tires
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 20:58:31 -0500


The reason they last so long is they are a harder rubber with less grip and lower rolling resistance.

---Garrett www.1966ford.com

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: G & J Boling
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2000 5:55 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: OEM tires


 I had a 1985 98 Olds that I bought new. I sold it to my mother. It had
 > Michelin X4M tires on it. After 80K miles, she decided she wanted new
 tires,
 > so I put them on an 85 Cadillac. I couldn't wear those tires out. They had
 > over 90K on them and still looked good when I sold the Caddy.
 >
 > -- John
 ================================================
 and i bet your Mom didnt get anywheres near that mileage out of the
 replacements she stuck on it either
 gordon




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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: OEM tires
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 22:17:37 -0400

The reason they last so long is they are a harder rubber with less grip and
lower rolling resistance.
===================================================
thats what ive been thinking myself about them
gordon



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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Hard to restart when hot???
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:10:32 -0500




I had that same problem on my 390. It was the fuel "boiling" in the carb. Solved it with one of those insulating carb spacer doohickeys. Mine was made by Edelbrock, but there are lots of them out there. Your local parts store should have one that fits, or else www.summitracing.com is where I got mine.

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
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 Subject: [61-79-list] Hard to restart when hot???


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    Im having some problems resarting my engine after it is hot.... Starts
 very easy when it is cold or has only been running for a few minutes but
 after the thermostsat has opened it takes quite a bit of cranking to come
 back to life.....  The engine in question is a '70 429. RV cam,Performer
 intake and Carter AFB....Otherwise pretty much stock. (Please Lord, let this
 query be the one that puts an end to the paper/KN filter dispute.... Many of
 us cant take it any more ;-)~  ) Hey! Did I just type that????  =P   Thanks
 in advance,  Paul



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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Hard to restart when hot???
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2000 21:13:19 -0700

   Sounds like retarded timing.

BTDT

Michael
69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 LS
69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>    Im having some problems resarting my engine after it is hot.... Starts
> very easy when it is cold or has only been running for a few minutes but
> after the thermostsat has opened it takes quite a bit of cranking to come
> back to life.....  The engine in question is a '70 429. RV cam,Performer
> intake and Carter AFB....Otherwise pretty much stock. (Please Lord, let
this
> query be the one that puts an end to the paper/KN filter dispute.... Many
of
> us cant take it any more ;-)~  ) Hey! Did I just type that????  =P
Thanks
> in advance,  Paul



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Date: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:27:17 -0500
From: prices <prices mciworld.com>
Subject: cleaning aluminum trim

Thanks for all the responses on cleaning the milky aluminum side moldings.
I posted my question to Eastwood,and their response agreed with many of
yours.  They said first remove the anodizing if it is milky.  One can use EZ
off oven cleaner.  Then buff it with one of their kits made for aluminum.
Kit comes with wheels for a drill or buffer, so you can lay the trim down
flat on a table to work it.  Kit also has the rouges for aluminum.  Kit cost
$39.  Lastly, they have a clear coat available for protection.  Their
website is www.eastwoodcompany.com


bkp in NC
73 XLT swb
78 XLT swb

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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:32:22 EDT
Subject: Re: FT's and FE's- lots of ????s

Thanks to all who replied- I think I got all of my questions answered.  The
361 is in an F-600 and someone said that some of these came with the NP435-
so maybe I will check out what kind of tranny is behind it.

dad is wanting a 4X4 (we had our olympiad showfall last winter- so everyone
in Arkansas thinks they need one now!)  And I've been pushing for a hiboy
project.  My dream is a 75 F-250 w/390- or maybe now with a 391.  Maybe this
info will help convince him to go that way since he already has a good
engine:)  I'm all tied up with my 64 resto, so I must live out my dreams
through my parents (backwards???) Of course, I'd have to make sure it saw
plenty of use!

Thanks again,
Nate


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From: JJJJJGRANT aol.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 00:54:16 EDT
Subject: Re: Anodizing remover, source

many of the degresers and detergents i sell have Sodium Hydroxide in them,
and i know it will eventually strip anodized aluminum.


jeff grant

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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 01:07:39 EDT
Subject: Anodizing vs. Oxidizing

OK- I've been full of questions lately- but this one has got me corn-fyoozed.
Someone began by asking about cleaning up the aluminum trim on their pickup
and all of the responses have been about stripping the anodization from them.
I thought anodizing was the coating put on aluminum to help keep it from
oxidizing.  Isn't the OXIDATION what needs to be removed.  I understand
stripping the anodization if it is in bad shape, then going back with a
clearcoat- but I thought anodization was a good thing. am I confused??

Nate

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From: "Deacon" <deconblu ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: emissions control
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 04:31:24 -0700

> I thought that F250 didn't incorporate emissions until 1980 when it
was no
> longer considered just a commercial vechile.

My '76 F350 has air injection. It has no CATS, but it has everything
else. Maybe they added CATS in '80.


Later!

Deacon

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From: "Deacon" <deconblu ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: side trim mouldings
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 04:50:27 -0700

> Any tips on cleaning or restoring the side and bottom chrome
(aluminum)
> mouldings on a 73 XLT?

I use Blue Magic Metal Polish Cream. It removes oxidation and tarnish
easily. It goes on easy and comes off just as easy. It gives aluminum a
deep shine that looks almost like liquid. It also leaves a protective
film.

Later!

Deacon

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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 08:58:05 -0400
From: "JB MCIWorld" <jeffrey.bennett mciworld.com>
Subject: Gas in Oil


> Help,
>  I just rebuilt the 302 in my 72 f100, and changed the break in oil
> last night. I noticed it seemed thin and had a gas smell to it. Any
> ideas? Could it be in the intake or gas blowing by the rings before
> they seated? The engine has been running great since the rebuild, no
> smoking or noticeable oil consumption.
>
> thanks
> jeff

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From: "Radoje Spasojevic" <rspasoje mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: emissions control
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 06:27:24 -0700

Must be a CA truck, because my '76 F-250 has no emission controls
whatsoever.

Radoje Spasojevic
"Nerves of Steel, Brains of Chipmunk"
'90XLT-351W-AOD-BW1356-Dana44-Ford8.8(Lockright)-3.55
'83Custom-300-Clark4spd-NP208-Dana44-Ford8.8"-3.08
'76F-250 Crew Cab-390FE-NP435-NP205-Dana 60-Dana 60-4.10
'87Eddie Bauer-No engine-No tranny-No t-case-No axles-No front clip
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.2bigbroncos.org
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From: Deacon <deconblu ford-trucks.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, October 06, 2000 4:41 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: emissions control


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>
>> I thought that F250 didn't incorporate emissions until 1980 when it
>was no
>> longer considered just a commercial vechile.
>
>My '76 F350 has air injection. It has no CATS, but it has everything
>else. Maybe they added CATS in '80.
>
>
>Later!
>
>Deacon
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From: "Chris Dains" <cdains earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Pitman Arm
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:56:19 -0700


Dave, try LMC truck or Autokrafters.  I've found them for a '77. Don't know if its the same for a '78.
LMC:  800-222-5664
Autokrafters: 800-228-7346

Chris D.
77F250 Custom


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Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:59:13 -0400
From: somalley voyager2.cns.ohiou.edu (Sean O'Malley)
Subject: Re: While we're talking about fuel tanks...

> > fuel guage is not very accurate.  That is, when the tank is full, the guage
> > only reads about 3/4.

The gauge on my single-tank f-150 is that way.  Reads around 3/4 when full
and goes a proportionate amount below Empty on the other end.  No idea
why, just thought I'd let you know your truck ain't the only one that
does it.

--sean

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From: "Chris Dains" <cdains earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: paper air filters
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 09:24:02 -0700


I'm amazed at the length of discussion, i.e. debate over K&N vs stock paper air filters. I've said before, I run 3 vehicles with K&N.  Two have "ram air".  K&N is a "performance" part.  All of this talk of cost savings, better filtration, and cleaning seems redundant.  Replacing your filter with K&N is like redoing your headers, exhaust etc....  Its for performance.  You gain benefits, but it has drawbacks as well.  In the case of K&N its fuel cost, because K&N increases horsepower.  K&N offers the same air intake as a new paper filter(Fact), usually no difference in performance(fact). K&N just does not get dirty near as quickly.  Paper filters mean you just have to check and replace them many times a year.  Why not buy just one K&N and have a clean air filter all the time???  The time to replace a paper filter(3 minutes) over many times a year would equal out to cleaning a K&N once every 2 years.  I run paper filters for my wifes car--she refuses me to modify her new car in any way. I just bought the paper filters in bulk for an every 10,000 change.  The K&N would be cheaper.  I think people add the K&N for the same reason we redo the headers.  More power, more flow, and more fun.......
Boy, did I just re-kick the hornets nest.......  I'll put on my flack jacket for the reply's...

Chris D.
77F250 Custom


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:19:21 -0500
From: "Don Yerhot" <DYERHOT nwhealth.edu>
Subject: Subject: Re: paper air filters

Now you guys got me thinking about other alternatives for air filters. I'm thinking that disposable diapers would work great. Let's see, at $6:00 for a box of 24...now do I use Huggies or Pampers....and they wouldn't smell quite as bad as Jr's when you threw them out. Seriously, I've always used paper and my trucks still last forever.

DonY
65 F250
74 F100


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:45:56 -0500
Subject: Re: emissions control
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> I found two different smog pumps at the local parts store for ~$40.  I'm not
> sure which one is correct (or if it matters) and not sure what else I'll need
> in terms of mounting hardware, hoses, connections, etc...  I've worked on
> these systems once or twice before, but its been a while.  Any relevant tips
> or info would be great.

Do they check the exhaust content at the tailpipe? If not, the main thing
that counts is that it looks good. I have known people who had a real pretty
smog pump with a belt turning it real nice, but it was just a shaft inside
the pump, no impellers, no nothing.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:48:31 -0500
Subject: Re: OEM tires
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> I had a 1985 98 Olds that I bought new. I sold it to my mother. It had
>> Michelin X4M tires on it. After 80K miles, she decided she wanted new
> tires,
>> so I put them on an 85 Cadillac. I couldn't wear those tires out. They had
>> over 90K on them and still looked good when I sold the Caddy.
>>
>> -- John
> ================================================
> and i bet your Mom didnt get anywheres near that mileage out of the
> replacements she stuck on it either
> gordon

You bet right. I think the model on the tire was MX4, not what I wrote
earlier.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:53:04 -0500
Subject: Re: paper air filters
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> Lets see, it takes a whole 10 minutes to clean my filter, 2-4 times a year,
> usually at an oil change.  Thats less than an hour. $26 filter and the $15
> cleaning stuff for an initial investment.  About $50 a year to clean,
> including my time. Two filters a month, that would be 24 a year.  Right
> there is $240, just for the filter.  Lets figure I cleaned them once a
> piece. That's still $120, plus labor.  BTW, I have a filter restriction
> gauge that I went by to tell when the filters were plugged, so I wasn't just
> letting the K&N's go longer.

You made the right choice. The key here is that you changed your filter
twice a month. Most people change twice a year...maybe. In your situation,
the K&N should be chosen on economy alone. Any other advantage is gravy.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 09:57:05 -0500
Subject: Re: paper air filters
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

>> What is a filter restriction gauge ?
>
> ..a light bulb in my garage...(:>)

Ha ha ha. I use the "C" method. If I "C" it's dirty, I replace it.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Deacon" <deconblu ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: emissions control
Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2000 08:11:30 -0700

> Must be a CA truck, because my '76 F-250 has no emission controls
> whatsoever.

   Just so happens it is a CA truck Rade. To be truthful I didn't think
they changed set-ups state to state. My '76 F350 FE360 has EGR, PCV, air
injection and the gas tank recirculation (can't remember what it's
called at the moment). My '73 F100 302 has EGR and PCV yet my '66
Mustang 289 has PCV and air injection. I thought everything post '73 at
least had EGR and PCV no matter where they are sold. The air injection I
can't figure out what they put it on.
   I was just wondering if your truck doesn't have EGR or PCV. I
consider PCV a good thing and would add it if my vehicle didn't come
with it.
   I checked out Too Big Broncos and all I can say is "Far Out Bro".
I've never understood Jeep people. I've been off road in both and was
able to go more places in a Bronco. Jeeps get stuck where Broncos have
no problem and will roll over or flip over backwards where Broncos
haven't even started having fun. Maybe that's why Jeep owners don't like
Bronco owners. 8]

Later!

Deacon

deconblu ford-trucks.com
deconblu earthlink.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://home.earthlink.net/~deconblu/



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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:01:00 -0500
Subject: Re: Anodizing vs. Oxidizing
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> OK- I've been full of questions lately- but this one has got me corn-fyoozed.
>  Someone began by asking about cleaning up the aluminum trim on their pickup
> and all of the responses have been about stripping the anodization from them.
>  I thought anodizing was the coating put on aluminum to help keep it from
> oxidizing.  Isn't the OXIDATION what needs to be removed.  I understand
> stripping the anodization if it is in bad shape, then going back with a
> clearcoat- but I thought anodization was a good thing. am I confused??
>
> Nate

No, not about this thread any way. ;-)

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 10:03:09 -0500
Subject: Re: Gas in Oil
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

>> Help,
>>  I just rebuilt the 302 in my 72 f100, and changed the break in oil
>> last night. I noticed it seemed thin and had a gas smell to it. Any
>> ideas? Could it be in the intake or gas blowing by the rings before ....


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