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Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #268 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Fri, 29 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 268 In This Issue: radius arm/axle bushing issue Ford Lightning Re: Ford Lightning Late 70's F-Series FOR SALE Re: 300 PCV question Metal Bits in my oil pan Column needs rebuilt Ford V10 Found source: Metal Bits in Pan Re: Ford V10 Re: 300 PCV question Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings steering Re: Late 70's F-Series wanted (A few ?'s) Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop Re: Dual Exhaust Re: 300 PCV question Re: Ad 588147 Re: buy it? Re: Metal Bits in my oil pan Re: Ad 588147 Re: life is too short.... Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop/Obsolete Engine Textbook Re: Ford V10 Re: Late 70's F-Series FOR SALE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 14:56:27 -0500 Subject: Re: life is too short.... From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>
> Still in good form I see....:-) Thanks for the support good buddy but I'm > just fooling around. I would rather have a little fun than get too serious, > that's what this list is to me.....a fun place to be :-) Thank God for both of you and the rest of the list, too. I think I would go insane without it. Maybe it's too late.... Have a great weekend, -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:02:48 -0500 From: Bruce Montcombroux <montcom BrandonU.CA>
Subject: radius arm/axle bushing issue Thanks for all the input on the radius arm/axle bushing issue. “since you will be that far into the project you might as well get the drop down brackets in there now also” from Don Grossman Yeah it would be nice to do it all at once but at 275$ CDN for 3* drops from Superlift.. they will have to wait till after the new tires. I have 4* axle bushings so it’s a good start at returning the castor to 0*. I noticed that the rivets at the top of the bracket are behind the radius arm bolt. Once the front end is out I think I’ll drill those rivets out for the future installation of the brackets. Going to be a nice and noisy weekend.. Once again thanks.. Bruce 65 Merc I6 76 4x4 390 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 13:19:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Ford Lightning I read the recent discussion about Superchargers and the Ford Lightning and I would like to know what time a factory setup Ford Lightning would turn in a quarter mile? Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:50:41 GMT Subject: Re: Ford Lightning >I read the recent discussion about Superchargers and >the Ford Lightning and I would like to know what time >a factory setup Ford Lightning would turn in a quarter >mile? > Depends what year you're talkin ... check out www.nloc.org and you can probably find all the specs. Off the top of my head I'm thinkin the old ones ran around the mid to high 15's in the quarter (they could turn too though) ... the new (99+) are quite a bit under that, I've heard as low as 13.6 I think and that was mostly stock if not completely ... that super really wakes them up ... but I think the new ones are saddled with 3.27 or 3.55 gears which really hurts them in stock form ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:48:07 -0400 From: Tony Marino <redneck raex.com>
Subject: Late 70's F-Series FOR SALE Hey Eric (and anybody else) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=443881210&r=0&t=0 The auction is over- tons of e-mails but no takers-- Anyone on the list want to buy my old' gal? Tony Marino redneck raex.com
Akron, Ohio At 11:12 9/29/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Ok folks. I figured I'd ask a question and see if anyone can help me out >here. I'm to the point in my bronco rebuild where I've come to the >realization that I won't get it done before winter hits. This is a >problem since I need to use my Bronco as a winter driver. My mustang >doesn't do snow or ice. :-) I'm looking for a later 70's F-series 4x4 to >use this winter. The way I figure it I've got enough spare Ford parts for >this vintage that if something does go wrong I might already have what I >need. Ideally I'd like to find a pickup with a wrecked front-end since >I've got so many spare front body parts laying around it'd be pretty easy >to fix one up. So now on with my questions. > >1. When did Ford stop putting the FE's in the 70's F-series pickups? Or I >guess a better question would be when did they start putting the 351M/400 >in them? I'd like to get a pickup with either a 351/400 or a 460 since >the 351M is what I'm already familiar with. (Is that heresy on this list >to not want an FE?) I know that '78 and '79's had these engines but what >about '76 or '77 models? I figure if its a complete POS then I could at >least rebuild the motor and use it for my Bronco at some point. (Everyone >needs a disposable vehicle to work on don't they?) > >2. Does my theory sound reasonable? I don't want to spend more than $3000 >for this since I'm not sure I'll be keeping this very long. (At least >that's what I'm telling my wife...) :-) > >3. Does anyone have any suggestions for where to look for such a beast? >I've been looking in the local papers, traversed just about every internet >classified ad site and I've come up with exactly zilch. I've got email >updates at at least three different sites to keep an eye out for what I >want. > >Thanks, >Eric Finn >'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project Still in Progress!) >'95 Mustang GT "Beauty" >'98 Honda Shadow 750 ACE >Personal Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/ >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=788 > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://photos.yahoo.com/ >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:55:07 GMT Subject: Re: 300 PCV question >Dumb question perhaps, but... > >The PCV valve is supposed to allow air to pass out of the valve cover >but not back in, right? Right, the filler hole lets the air in on the other valve cover ... > >My '78 300 had a cheesy aftermarket air cleaner on it from the previous >owner and no hose on the oil filler vent tube. I have since installed a >stock 300 airbox but still need to do something about the filler vent. Its supposed to go over to the airbox, there should just be a nipple on there for a piece of hose ... at least that's the way the older ones are, not sure when they changed to the filters and such for those. My 74 didn't have any filtering mechanisms on it, just pulls air from the filter housing OUTSIDE the filter itself ... I keep thinking I should buy one of those aftermarket filters to stick over it, but they came without them for so many years I"m not sure how necessary it is ... >What do people do when they install an aftermarket carb and air >filter? Is there some kind of aftermarket PCV system that doesn't >need to be routed back into the intake? > The PCV should be routed to the base of the carb or carb baseplate, if your baseplate didn't come with one you might be able to pick one up and drill a hole for one ... I've seen that done with phenolic spacers ... a couple of notches so there's a vaccuum and it works just like stock ... the other part goes to the airfilter, most airfilters come with the pieces to add the vent I think, I know my K&N kit for a SBC came with the pieces (I just needed the lid and the filter, the SBC parts were all they had in stock I swear!) >Like I said, dumb question, but ya gotta start somewhere. > As someone said before, if you don't know the answer, its not a dumb question ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:49:42 -0400 From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Metal Bits in my oil pan First off, let me state I did NOT Slick 50 the Ford F-150. Coincidence that this happened, but with my previous post, I figured I mention that up front, so everyone didn't jump on and say, "See, we told you so." I was driving home yesterday, and my truck all of a sudden just quit. Two years ago I was having trouble with the valve stem seal setting stuck in the oil pump, so I figured it quit because the distributor shear pin sheared. So I had my neighbor tow it back to my house with his 82 Ford (300, 4 spd OD.) I just now took off the oil pan expecting to see some valve stem seals. Well, I didn't. I see metal chunks, that look like they all come from the same thing that disintegrated. However, I can't figure out what they are. Too small to be cam bearing or main bearing. If I piece them together, they create a circle with holes every 90 degrees , its about 3/4-1" around if I piece it together. I'm going to go outside and take off the valve covers next. Fortunately with the lift I have I can just crawl under the truck and unbolt the oil pan and it slides right out. The air racket doesn't hurt either. George Selby 78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd 86 Nissan 300ZX gselby4x4 earthlink.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usedcarsandparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:50:31 -0500 From: Doss Halsey <halsey isl-inc.com>
Subject: Column needs rebuilt Marty, >I've noticed in the past couple months that my column shaft had some play in >it. Piece of cake. When you pull the steering shaft out of the center, it will all be evident. The bearings just push in place in the column, top and bottom. The retainer is a tapered plastic collar which slides down the shaft and into the center part of the bearing. Yes, get two bearings and (I think) two retainers. The bottom of the assembly is held in place by the clamp. The top I think has a couple of screws holding a flange of sorts. > It had manual steering, but in my >conversion to power steering, I just swapped the center rod, so the outer >column is the original manual steering one - there all the same thought, >right? Yes, the bearing system in the two columns are the same. When you converted to power steering did you change out the firewall mount at the base of the column to the power steering version? They are different you know. The old (manual steering) mounting flange will put too much pressure on the column when used with the power steering box. The result will likely be that the bearings in the steering column won't last long. Doss Halsey '68 F250 Camper Special '72 F250 Camper Special ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:07:21 -0400 From: Tony Marino <redneck raex.com>
Subject: Ford V10 You know, I'm very discouraged to hear this; I just went out a week and a half ago and ordered a 2001 Regular cab F-250 4x4 Superduty with a V10 and a 5 speed. Heavy duty everything, with 3.73 ratio gears. I dropped 26K of smack down on it and it should arrive sometime in the next three weeks as they are building it for me. I have NEVER driven, nor rode in a V10. The way I looked at it, the 5.4 isn't enough motor for hauling anything I haul, and the Diesel is awesome (trust me, have a friend with a F-350 4x4 with a powerstroke) but for my short, constant, stop and go, turn on/turn off type of driving, I figured I'd nuke the diesel. (plus I can't really afford the extra cost) I've been trying to find as much information on the V10 as I can, but the one thing I want to hear from is the people who drive them! AND USE THEM! I'm probably one of the biggest 300 fans, I own a ton of them, hop them up, and love the low end grunt they give me-- I've heard these V10's don't have that, but produce only mid-range power. I also have a 390 that smokes in a '76 F-250 4x4, and it just rock'n'roll's all over the place. How is the V10 going to stack up in your opinions? Tell me why, not just reply with "it's crap" or "it's good". Am I going to be happy with it doing what I maily will do with it? (empty runnin') and the occasional haul of about 7000 lbs to Tennessee and back? I know mileage sucks, but I don't really care about that. Thanks guys- (and at the pulls last year, they were at least beating the dodge V10's!) Tony Marino redneck raex.com
><< I'm positive it will out pull the stock Ford V10s I saw >at the pull this year ... what a bunch of dogs :-( >( and , no , they did not run out of traction ... ) > > >> > >I had the pleasure of driving my dads friends brand new F-350 with the V-10. >I was not impressed at all. It had all the pick up of an old wore out 351m. >How Ford could ever consider that as a replacement for the 460 is beyond me. >Dont get me wrong, its a neat motor, but all in all, it was noisy, weak in >the knees, and got worse mileage tham Tweety's 460. > >Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:24:58 -0400 From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Found source: Metal Bits in Pan The distributor drive dear didn't come out with the distributor, but I saw it next to the cam gear, however when I fished it out it was missing the lower portion (where the shear pin goes, that was the 4 holes 90 degrees apart) and 2 teeth. The shear pin only sheared on one side, and the drive gear exploded on the other, that was all the metal in the pan. However, this was all post-oil pump lockup, not the cause. I disassembled the oil pump, and sure enough there was a piece of black plastic about 1/4" by 1/4", slightly curled. My suspect: The valve stem seals, as they are hard black plastic, slightly curled. Now my question: I seem to remember someone finding rubber (instead of hard plastic) valve stem seals for the 400. Anyone remember where I can get some of these? The good news is my pistons, cylinder walls, timing chain and what I can see of the bearings (No burned rod ends) all look good. George Selby 78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd 86 Nissan 300ZX gselby4x4 earthlink.net
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.usedcarsandparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:36:47 -0700 From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: Ford V10 Hi Tony , I'll respond since I started this V10 vs I6 discussion ... A farmer friend of mine owns one ... also was one of the V10s we joked about after the pulls ... http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.ntpapull.com/FREEPORTPICTURES.htm (third row , first truck ) The main problem with the truck for the pulls is the gears are wrong for max grunt. For everyday driving and pulling farm wagons , he likes it. Smooth running , can not even tell it is running from inside. Someone else mentioned that the V10 they heard was noisy . I wonder what is normal , noisy or quiet . Slip a set of 4.56 gears and she'd run. The Chivy that won the class was owned by the guy that now owns the V10 FORD. He came from a long line of Chivy owners. Hopefully someone will bring out some beef-up parts for the V10. Only the govt. regulations keep the V10 from going better (and we all know what the govt. wants to do for us SUV/truck owners :-) ). I'd rather have a 300 I6 , but rathers do not count when buying new. Don't compare the new V10 to your I6 and 390 , compare it to whatever else is on the market and you'll not be disappointed. dave Prasse ------------------------------ From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: 300 PCV question Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:45:20 -0700 The 3/8" fitting at the base of the carb near the rear passenger side is for your PCV system. A hose (rated for use with fuel) should lead from this fitting to a valve cover cap that has a PCV valve installed into the cap. Your other valve cover cap should have a 5/8" fitting with hose leading to your air cleaner. If an aftermarket air cleaner does not have a 5/8" fitting, then it probably has a knockout that will enable one to be installed. Michael 69 F250 390 4V, T18, 3.54 LS 69 F250 390 4V, C6, 4.11 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > The PCV valve is supposed to allow air to pass out of the valve cover > but not back in, right? > > --sean ------------------------------ From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 17:45:27 EDT Subject: Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings I'm with Gary. No expert but I got my '79 Bronco in '84 with 52k miles on it. It was here just last summer that I had to replace the Radius rod bushings (at about 160k miles). It's had bolts in it since I got it. I just assume it's had them since factory as I doubt it needed work in the first 52k of it's like. I could be wrong. in general, but that's what I see on mine. George M in Fl. In a message dated 9/28/2000 10:26:56 AM Eastern Daylight Time, gpeters3 lni.net writes:
<< Maybe this is so common because it's the first mod any one makes? Heard a lot of comments from others that they found bolts in theirs? Mine "had the appearance" of factory installation so I assumed......I know, I know........ Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > Gary wrote: > > > > AFAIK the 78's came with bolted brackets. > > They did??, never seen factory bolted brackets (on any of my 6, 78/79 > broncs ======= >> ------------------------------ From: "Don Richey" <djrdon sisna.com>
Subject: steering Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:00:52 -0700 the colume shifter on my '79 ford broke off and I tore-down the steering-wheel but still cannot get to the shifter. Can anyone tell me how it comes out ? Thanks ------------------------------ From: "Dave Resch" <Dave.Resch sybase.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:10:13 -0600 Subject: Re: Late 70's F-Series wanted (A few ?'s) >From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
> >Or I guess a better question would be when >did they start putting the 351M/400 in them? Yo Eric: Ford started using the 351M/400 engine in F-trucks at the beginning of the 1977 model year. Early 1977's still had the narrower frame and taller 4x4 suspension that was used from 1967-1977. Sometime during the 1977 model year (some poeple refer to them as '77 and a half), Ford switched to the wider frame (and lower suspension on 4x4s) that was used through the 1979 model year. For compatibility w/ your Bronco, you might want to avoid the narrow frame early '77s and look for the later '77s and '78-'79s. Dave R (M-block devotee) ------------------------------ From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:51:38 EDT Subject: Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop The V-8 Engine Workshp was pulled by its owner Bill Lewis. He told me about a year ago that it was consuming too much time. He indicated that he might sell the site, but he hasn't given any further indication on that issue. Thom 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee >What ever happened to the Ford V8 Engine Workshop at www.wrljet.com? Does > it have a new address? I hope we can still use it. It's a very usefull > site. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 19:32:04 -0400 From: bill poudrier <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: Dual Exhaust Fortunately you can buy a system from Hooker for $129.95 from PAW page 1078 1998 catalog(orange color). They have both manifold back Hooker PN 16661 and header back 16561. Both pipes run down the right side of the truck. I have the same setup on my 1979 F150 2WD w/glasspacks and it is great. Unfortunately the system is falling apart, many moons old. Hooker says they only make systems for 4WD. What is the difference? I would think 4WD would be harder to install on than 2WD. Should I take the plunge and buy the 4WD system and see if it fits? Once I take the old system off I am committed. Bill At 05:43 PM 9/24/00 -0600, you wrote: > >Hello list, Can anyone give me some insight into dual exhausts on a '79 f150 4x4 351M 4sp dual tanks. I want to keep my stock manifolds for now. Is there anyway to run the exhaust down both sides or would I have to run both down the ditch side. If I do then would it better to exit both on the same side or run another pipe over at the back end. It seems like this would make one pipe run a heck of a lot longer than the other. If I ran a crossover pipe would this make it not matter. Thanks. > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 300 PCV question Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:30:11 -0700 There is no real differnce between the two systems, they both use ambient air pressure at the inlet and PVC at the out let to the crank case. Under normal operation there is little air flowing throuth it so it doesn't need much filtering. The typical system has a filter/filler cap assy for the inlet but many had a hose from the filler cap to the air cleaner but inside the air cleaner housing there is a small filter element covering the hole the hose goes to so this is also filtered air :-) On most old engines this little filter is full of oil due to blow by over powering the PVC system and oil backing up through the inlet hose to the filter or a failed PVC valve which has the same effect. Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > when they changed to the filters and such for those. My 74 didn't have any > filtering mechanisms on it, just pulls air from the filter housing OUTSIDE the > filter itself ------------------------------ From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:38:20 EDT Subject: Re: Ad 588147 In a message dated 9/28/2000 6:42:33 AM EST, flash1 alltel.net writes:
<< here is a link to a bunch of truck shop manuals if anyone needs or wants them gordon http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ep.com/js/mi/c0/n0/588147.html >> Your address doesn't seem to work . Are you sure of the address ?? I'll try again... ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: buy it? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:39:07 -0700 Whether or not it's a good deal depends on your needs, mechanical aptitude, time and funds in that order. If you can fix it yourself and have a little spare time to do it and a place to work on it then, IMHO it's a steal :-) If it were 4x4 it would be a crime to buy it for that price..... Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > I am considering the purchase of a '79 F-250 supercab (2 wd, 460, AT) > for $1500. ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Metal Bits in my oil pan Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 20:40:18 -0700 George, you have a lift too? :-) Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > Fortunately with the lift I have I can just crawl under the truck and > unbolt the oil pan and it slides right out. The air racket doesn't hurt > either. > > George Selby ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Ad 588147 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:06:43 -0400 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://ep.com/js/mi/c0/n0/588147.html > >> > > Your address doesn't seem to work . Are you sure of the address ?? > I'll try again... > ============================================================= YEP i just tried it and it works for me gordon ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: life is too short.... Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:32:25 -0400 > If this is hard feelings over past post, please get over it. You are > taking things too personally. There is no room on this list for insults > from little egos with hurt feelings. ====================================================== i have no idea what your speaking of really i dont pay much attention myself to Who posts What i have better things to do than that if you have taken something yourself personally you should get over it yourself gordon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:25:21 -0400 From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop At 06:51 PM 9/29/00, you wrote: >The V-8 Engine Workshp was pulled by its owner Bill Lewis. He told me about >a year ago that it was consuming too much time. He indicated that he might >sell the site, but he hasn't given any further indication on that issue. > >Thom >1967 F-Series Registry >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee I have full transcripts of the pages thanks to a couple of people. I hope to get Bill's permission to publish them here. Ken Payne ------------------------------ From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:32:55 EDT Subject: Re: Ford V-8 Engine Workshop/Obsolete Engine Textbook He is quite "protective" of the content and actively enforcing his copyright to the pages. Various articles had been posted here and there and I *believe* were pulled upon his request. I do hope you do get his permission as it was a great resource. There is another nice resource I meant to mention at http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fomoco.com That is the Obsolete Engines Textbook. Nice glossary of terms and the like. Thom 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee Ken spelled out: > I have full transcripts of the pages thanks to a couple of > people. I hope to get Bill's permission to publish them > here. ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:40:57 EDT Subject: Re: Ford V10 Well Tony you have a few things goin for you, mainly its the F-250 and not the 350 I drove. Also his was a crew cab. The cut in weight should help out dramatically. What you'll see with this motor is it will do everything you want it too, but it doesn't supply any of the felt horsepower other motor have. I should have clarified this. I had not trouble with driving on the freeway, passing or anything, it just didn't have the seat of the pants smile factor you think you get from a V-10. It will just about be the smoothest running engine you've ever seen, but oddly it sounds like a Honda. Its just to hard to classify it if you know what Im sayin. Im sure you'll be happy with it. Its just not the 460 replacement ford made it out to be. And I am spoiled that way, having my own 460, dads van having a 460, a few of my old work trucks havin 460s. You just get used to the feel of the 460, and nothing else compares. Ive been driving my Cleveland for a month now, and Im just starting to see that it really is a powerful motor compared to a lot of stuff, but I kept comparing it to a 460, and you just cant do that. Good luck with your new truck, and when you go play, let us know how it performs, I'm curious about its offroad potential. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: Late 70's F-Series FOR SALE Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 21:15:05 -0500 Ok, if I lived near you, you would have 2,300 dollars in your pocket and I would have a '78 F150 =) That's a good looking truck! -----Original Message----- From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of Tony Marino
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 3:48 PM To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Late 70's F-Series FOR SALE Hey Eric (and anybody else) http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=443881210& r=0&t=0 The auction is over- tons of e-mails but no takers-- Anyone on the list want to buy my old' gal? Tony Marino redneck raex.com
Akron, Ohio At 11:12 9/29/2000 -0700, you wrote: >Ok folks. I figured I'd ask a question and see if anyone can help me out >here. I'm to the point in my bronco rebuild where I've come to the >realization that I won't get it done before winter hits. This is a >problem since I need to use my Bronco as a winter driver. My mustang >doesn't do snow or ice. :-) I'm looking for a later 70's F-series 4x4 to >use this winter. The way I figure it I've got enough spare Ford parts for >this vintage that if something does go wrong I might already have what I >need. Ideally I'd like to find a pickup with a wrecked front-end since >I've got so many spare front body parts laying around it'd be pretty easy >to fix one up. So now on with my questions. > >1. When did Ford stop putting the FE's in the 70's F-series pickups? Or I >guess a better question would be when did they start putting the 351M/400 >in them? I'd like to get a pickup with either a 351/400 or a 460 since >the 351M is what I'm already familiar with. (Is that heresy on this list >to not want an FE?) I know that '78 and '79's had these engines but what >about '76 or '77 models? I figure if its a complete POS then I could at >least rebuild the motor and use it for my Bronco at some point. (Everyone >needs a disposable vehicle to work on don't they?) > >2. Does my theory sound reasonable? I don't want to spend more than $3000 >for this since I'm not sure I'll be keeping this very long. (At least >that's what I'm telling my wife...) :-) > >3. Does anyone have any suggestions for where to look for such a beast? >I've been looking in the local papers, traversed just about every internet >classified ad site and I've come up with exactly zilch. I've got email >updates at at least three different sites to keep an eye out for what I >want. > >Thanks, >Eric Finn >'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project Still in Progress!) >'95 Mustang GT "Beauty" >'98 Honda Shadow 750 ACE >Personal Homepage: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://members.home.net/ecfinn/ >http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.superford.org/cgi-bin/sf.cgi?uid=default&vr2=1&ID=788 > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Photos - 35mm Quality Prints, Now Get 15 Free! .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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