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61-79-list Digest Wed, 27 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 264

In This Issue:
Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings
Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings
off topic... was: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil
Re: To: Dawn
Re: Short Livers (or Lifers)
Re: Short Livers (or Lifers)
Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings
Re: Factory Turbos
Re: Turbo Lubers
Factory Turbos
Alabama Bone Yards, etc
Re: Factory Turbos
Re: Factory Turbos
Re: Manuals - Powell's
Re: Turbo Lubers
Power Steering
ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks
Re: Power Steering
Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
Re: smoked tires ,300 I6 in 4x4
Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
Re: Factory Turbos
Re: smoked tires ,300 I6 in 4x4
Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
Smoked tires?  NOT with a V-10
Re: Factory Turbos
Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
Re: Power Steering

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:13:05 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize

John LaGrone wrote:

> I agree with all that has been said about synthetic oil and turbos and the
> properties of synthetic oil. But...
>
> Does anyone have a stock, factory original or properly restored 61-79 F
> series truck with a factory turbo on it? I didn't think so.

Hmmm...., does anyone have a 61-79, 4WD ford truck with a factory 460 in
it? Didn't think so, guess it doesn't apply :-)

                         OX

PS, yeah, yeah, I've heard ford did make some 4WD, 460's, but I'm not
convinced, doubt I will be,  LOL!!!

--
78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44
boggers, 9" lift
79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5
SX's, 4"lift
79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift
86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:10:47 -0500
From: Bruce Montcombroux <montcom BrandonU.CA>
Subject: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings

I am about to replace the radius arm and axle bushings on my 76 4x4 ton.
Would it be simpler to grind off the rivets holding the radius arm brackets
in place or unbolt the shocks and springs and roll the front axle forward?

Couple factors to consider, I will (at some future point) be putting drop
brackets on the radius arms to accommodate the 6 suspension lift (came with
the truck).
I only have one small floor jack, probably not enough to rest axle on and
move it.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Bruce
65 Merc I6
76 4x4 390



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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:18:34 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings



Bruce Montcombroux wrote:
>
> I am about to replace the radius arm and axle bushings on my 76 4x4 ton.
> Would it be simpler to grind off the rivets holding the radius arm brackets
> in place or unbolt the shocks and springs and roll the front axle forward?
>
> Couple factors to consider, I will (at some future point) be putting drop
> brackets on the radius arms to accommodate the 6 suspension lift (came with
> the truck).
> I only have one small floor jack, probably not enough to rest axle on and
> move it.
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>

Can't get C-bushings out without removing springs and lower spring seat
anyway. At that point, axle is all but out, especially since you really
can't remove springs without remvoing shocks.

                                  OX

--
78 Bronco Custom, 400, T-18, 14 bolt/detroit/4.56, D60/detroit/4.56, 44
boggers, 9" lift
79 Bronco XLT, 351M, C6, D60/detroit/4.10, D448lug/Lokrite/4.10, 38.5
SX's, 4"lift
79 Bronc XLT, 351M, C6, 35 BFG AT's, 2" lift
86 Capri, turbo 5.0 (13.4 107)
90 Talon AWD turbo (12.7 104)
95 F250-460,4WD (16.9 82)

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:32:44 -0500
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> John LaGrone wrote:
>
>> I agree with all that has been said about synthetic oil and turbos and the
>> properties of synthetic oil. But...
>>
>> Does anyone have a stock, factory original or properly restored 61-79 F
>> series truck with a factory turbo on it? I didn't think so.
>
> Hmmm...., does anyone have a 61-79, 4WD ford truck with a factory 460 in
> it? Didn't think so, guess it doesn't apply :-)
>
>                           OX
>
> PS, yeah, yeah, I've heard ford did make some 4WD, 460's, but I'm not
> convinced, doubt I will be,  LOL!!!

Let me clarify lest someone truly gets their dander up. The arguments for
synthetic have been good, valid, factual statements (mostly, anyway). The
point is, being better for a T Bird Turbo Coupe doesn't automatically make
it better for a stock F series truck. Being better for an abused (Ford's
term, not mine) rock crawler or drag racer run under extreme conditions
doesn't make it automatically better for a stock F series truck used as a
daily driver. After our discussion, any reader should be able to decide
which is best for them and not be sucked in by hype. Hey, you guys and gals
do good work.

I am convinced that a 460 is a good thing, truly I am. I wish I had one...or
two. I like buying rear tires often and being ticketed for excessive
acceleration. ;-)

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: off topic... was: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:47:24 -0500


I like buying rear tires often and being ticketed for excessive
acceleration too. :-)   (only I do it with a 390)


---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: John LaGrone
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2000 11:32 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize


 > John LaGrone wrote:
 >
 >> I agree with all that has been said about synthetic oil and turbos and the
 >> properties of synthetic oil. But...
 >>
 >> Does anyone have a stock, factory original or properly restored 61-79 F
 >> series truck with a factory turbo on it? I didn't think so.
 >
 > Hmmm...., does anyone have a 61-79, 4WD ford truck with a factory 460 in
 > it? Didn't think so, guess it doesn't apply :-)
 >
 >                           OX
 >
 > PS, yeah, yeah, I've heard ford did make some 4WD, 460's, but I'm not
 > convinced, doubt I will be,  LOL!!!

 Let me clarify lest someone truly gets their dander up. The arguments for
 synthetic have been good, valid, factual statements (mostly, anyway). The
 point is, being better for a T Bird Turbo Coupe doesn't automatically make
 it better for a stock F series truck. Being better for an abused (Ford's
 term, not mine) rock crawler or drag racer run under extreme conditions
 doesn't make it automatically better for a stock F series truck used as a
 daily driver. After our discussion, any reader should be able to decide
 which is best for them and not be sucked in by hype. Hey, you guys and gals
 do good work.

 I am convinced that a 460 is a good thing, truly I am. I wish I had one...or
 two. I like buying rear tires often and being ticketed for excessive
 acceleration. ;-)

 -- John
 jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
 http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
 Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: To: Dawn
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:51:21 -0700


>
> I think dawn was looking for a manual for a 78??
> Lloyd's auto lit (lloydsautolit.com) has new reprints- 5
> volumes (factory
> shop manual) for.... brace yourself...$119.00.  It's steep,
> but most of them
> are.  Someone suggested checking the online store for this
> site- and I think
> that's the first place to start- especially since it help
> support this list-
> but I don't think they carry that year- still worth checking.
> Helm only carries manuals until they are "obsoleted"- and
> then you have to
> look for reprints like the ones above.  Unfortunately they
> only come as a set
> and they cover every light, medium, and heavy duty truck- so
> you end up
> paying for a lot of info you probably won't use.  Good luck.
>
> Nate

Buy it, BUY IT!!!  $119 was less than I paid for the set from Helm and I
thought I got a good deal.  Those manuals are worth the money.  Anything
else is kindling!

Tom H.

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From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Short Livers (or Lifers)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:51:22 -0700


>
>
>
>
> > dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net> wrote:
> > is all non caps and run on thoughts just as annoying ?  :-)
> >
> > YES!
> >
> > Content:  On the front of mine, it says FORD, in all caps.
> > Isn't that wrong, somehow?  ;-)
> > -M-
> =============================================================
> YEA  but not all of us spent our lives teaching english or
> typing either
> the main thing IS i think when someone asks a question they
> get a answer i
> guess who cares about the rest of it IF we were all english
> majors i bet we
> wouldnt be on here either
> gordon
>
>

I thought we had a lady who had a PHD in English.  Where is Clare anyway?

Tom H.

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From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Short Livers (or Lifers)
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:51:20 -0700



>
> dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net> wrote:
> is all non caps and run on thoughts just as annoying ?  :-)
>
> YES!
>
> Content:  On the front of mine, it says FORD, in all caps.
> Isn't that wrong, somehow?  ;-)
> -M-
>

NO!  We WANT to shout that!! ;0)

Tom H.

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 76 4x4 radius arm and axle bushings
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:56:34 -0700

Before I became.......well, was so fortunate......that is......got my lift I
used to have a pit which is basically equal to bigger (higher) ramps and I
left the wheels on the axle, left it essentially on the floor with no weight
on it by jacking up the frame and resting it on jack stands and simply
rolled it out of the way when I did the bushings......piece a cake :-)  (I
think you will have to disconnect the front drive shaft though)

Spend $14.95 and get a set of 3k# jack stands before you do any more work.
I've had the whole truck on 4 stands doing stuff in the pit and they work
very well for a small chunk of change.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> I am about to replace the radius arm and axle bushings on my 76 4x4 ton.
> Would it be simpler to grind off the rivets holding the radius arm
brackets
> in place or unbolt the shocks and springs and roll the front axle forward?



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:10:04 -0700

Before this gets too far out of hand let me say that the engine itself in
our 86 Cougar was in very good condition, only the turbo bit the dust and
that was primarily due to the first half of it's life not gettting that nice
one minute cool down treatment I'm pretty sure.  I finally read the book at
some point and found that little tid bit of advice........

We kept the oil changed in it all it's life but that won't help the turbo
bearings much if you don't cool them down every time you shut down.  BTW, I
never took one apart but assumed that they did, in fact, have ball bearings
due to the high rpm??

On another note.......if I ever decide to charge my truck it will be with a
"Super Charger" not turbo......I'll never have another "Turbo Lagger" again,
ever......I'm an instant throttle response type of guy :-)

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

>  On a side note, mom's 120k mile 88 T-bird turbo coupe still has enough
> "shazaam" to blow the doors of a 383 magnum Road Runner......


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Turbo Lubers
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:21:36 -0700

The post luber I was refering to is actually powered by an air/hydraulic
accumulator which self charges automatically when the engine runs and then
discharges into the turbo bearings through restrictors when you shut it off.
There may be motorized ones too but never heard of that type.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Here was another good reason for a pre-luber, post lubing! The fancy store
> bought has an adjustable timer for the prevention of heat soak and coking.


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:33:55 -0500
From: John Strauss <jstrauss inetport.com>
Subject: Factory Turbos

> Does anyone have a stock, factory original or properly restored 61-79 F
> series truck with a factory turbo on it?
>
There is no such a thing AFAIK, at least not in regular production.
  _
_| ~~.  John Strauss
\, *_}  jstrauss inetport.com
  \(    Texas Fight!


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:47:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> On another note.......if I ever decide to charge my truck it will be with a
> "Super Charger" not turbo......I'll never have another "Turbo Lagger" again,
> ever......I'm an instant throttle response type of guy :-)
>
> Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
> 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

The only turbo I have ever had personal experience with was on my brother's
3.8 Buick V6 in a 78 LeSabre Sport Coupe. While taking his little girl to
the hospital, he turboed it one too many times. Melted holes in the tops of
two pistons. I have heard many people say that turbos were installed to sell
new cars and to avoid them on used cars. BTW, my brother replaced the V6
with a 455 out of a 71 Riviera. I wish I could have acquired that upgraded
car when he sold it. He won a few drag races with the 3.8 badges still on
the fenders and the 455 under the hood.

Sorry, no Ford content. We didn't know Fords then. We both own Fords now.
Come to think of it, everyone in my family owns at least one Ford now.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!



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From: Jerry Biskup <jbiskup rainsoft.com>
Subject: Alabama Bone Yards, etc
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:52:55 -0500

I will be in the Birmingham, AL area next week on business.  Any places of
interest I should see while down there?

Jerry (OldTrux) Biskup
1966 F100 4X4 - "Jigsaw"
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.oldtrux.homestead.com/ <http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.oldtrux.homestead.com/>
Jigsaw.html <http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://oldtrux/homestead.com/>
Jigsaw ford-trucks.net <mailto:Jigsaw ford-trucks.net>



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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:20:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos

>> Does anyone have a stock, factory original or properly restored 61-79 F
>> series truck with a factory turbo on it?
>
>I dont suppose it would count if I found a way to cram 4 turbos from a turbo

>coupe under the hood of tweety and call it stock?

If you shot one of those my way we'd let you call it stock :)

Actually Wayne Foy (some of you know him I'm sure) sent me the following quote
when I complained that everyone seemed to consider cars and trucks like I have
"stock" (most bolt ons on the car, and the motor's cammed in the truck at the
very least)

In the "Street Racing" scene we have a saying when someone asks us if it is
stock.
"Stock? Yep its stock, someone had the parts in STOCK when I bought them."


> Its a shame we
>run synthetic in that car, its gonna be a lonnnnnngg time before that motor

>blows and I get a chance to play in the 4cyl toybox.
>

hahaha, I couldn't bring myself to pick up a 4cyl to play with, so I talked
my girlfriend into one, now I get to play with that and the 8's :)  Its not
a turbo, but with the suspension upgrades we're havin quite a bit of fun with
it ... if I could only get off my lazy butt and get the 5spd swap finished up
then we could start on deciding what to do with the header I'm pickin up this
weekend for it :)

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 17:28:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos

> BTW, I
>never took one apart but assumed that they did, in fact, have ball bearings

>due to the high rpm??
>

Nope, someone apparently found some as an "upgrade" but originally the excessive
heat and fluctuations caused most roller/ball bearings to weld themselves together
and generally act very poorly, instead it rides on a cusion of oil, since its
spinning so fast they usually use the shaft to maintain the oil itself I think
(as opposed to forced oiling) ... most of what I picked up on turbo's is in
a book that's about 10 or so years old and deals mostly with ag applications
since that was my major and all ... the ag approach is sometimes very much the
KISS principle which means the fewer moving parts the better ... also material
technology has changed quite a bit over the last bunch of years.

>On another note.......if I ever decide to charge my truck it will be with a

>"Super Charger" not turbo......I'll never have another "Turbo Lagger" again,

>ever......I'm an instant throttle response type of guy :-)

Yes, I've often thought of throttling your responses instantly ;)
Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com

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From: draco pacifier.com
Subject: Re: Manuals - Powell's
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:47:05 -0700 (PDT)

Scott Jensen wrote:
> If you're in Portland, go down to Powells Books. They have a good
> selection of used Haines/Chiltons plus a bunch of old factory manuals.
> Bought my copy of Steve Christ's book there, too.

You don't have to be in Portland.  Go to www.powells.com and search their
vast invertory which is pretty well kept up to date.  I type "ford truck"
as the keywords box and "ford" in the publisher box.  If you call them
they will find the book and call you back with an honest description of
the condition and if you like they will ship it to you.

Ford truck manual sets don't show up all that often so you have to be
patient.  I have bought two sets from Powell's so far.

> Kind of off list, but they have a whole building FULL of Tech books.
> A real geek playground.

Hey!


Mark in Southwest Washington
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.pacifier.com/~draco/Truck.html
--
'74 F-100 Ranger XLT 4x4
in digest mode

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From: "John Webster" <jwebster tnt21.com>
Subject: Re: Turbo Lubers
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:47:36 -0400

I've seen those, Moroso and a few others make them with either manual or
electric solenoids for the accumulator. The one that is pre-packaged is
carried by Summit and is nice but its also costs to $450.00 American (That's
like the Gross National debt in Canadian dollars). Mines just a used 12VDC
hydraulic pump assembly plumbed the same way but you get a longer pre-lube
which is nice on those frigid mornings when the vinyl of the seat sounds
like its going to shatter when you sit.
John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's
<The post luber I was refering to is actually powered by <an air/hydraulic
<accumulator which self charges automatically when the <engine runs and then
<discharges into the turbo bearings through restrictors <when you shut it
off.
<There may be motorized ones too but never heard of <that type.




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From: "John Webster" <jwebster tnt21.com>
Subject: Power Steering
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 16:41:50 -0400

A general question for you all.
Over the last few months the power steering assist was gradually getting
less. I knew the pump was leaking so I replaced it and the high pressure
hose. I bleed the pig for close to an hour (up on jack stands and lock to
lock) and it appears to be bubble free in the reservoir. The problem is that
it didn't help at all. The steering is the same. It feels as though it wants
to help but it takes a good tug to get the wheel moving. It's not just when
at the center position and trying to move, its wherever the wheel is and you
want to move it. Now some quick background, it's a Lincoln power steering
pump on a 460, I know my pitman arm is worn (the '77 scourge) but everything
is and always has been greased regularly. Does this sound like a steering
box going bad? I'm collecting the parts to change the whole front end to a
'78 (from pitman arm to ball joints) but should I start to work this into
the budget (gulp!). Thank you to all who can shed some light.
Strong-arming in the North.
John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's


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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:24:32 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: All new 2001 Ford trucks

There are several new Ford Motor Company press releases on
the FTE web site.  Ford slam dunks the competition with the
new Super CrewZer, it makes the Super Duty and Excursion
look small.  Can you say tractor-trailor rig in your driveway?

Here's the list of press releases:

2001 King Ranch F-150 SuperCrew
2001 Ford F-650 Super CrewZer
Super Duty F-Series -- One in a Million
The 2001 Platinum Edition Ford Super Duty F-250
Ford Super Duty F-Series -- The Clear Leader in Customer Choice

You can find them at <a href="http://www.ford-trucks.com">www.ford-trucks.com</a>

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: Aeroape82 aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:41:14 EDT
Subject: Re: Power Steering

Sounds like the same Problem I had on my old F150 and it ended up being the
steering box. But if you have a steering stabilizer you might try unhooking
that and see if it helps.

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:20:55 -0400

So Slick 50, WD 40, STP Oil Treatment,
> etc. are scams but synthetics aren't.
===================================================
i had a semi truck lose darn near ALL the oil pressure 1000 miles from home
once i drained 5 gallon of oil out and stuck in 5 gallons of STP it was
about 100 degrees out then to and drove it home then when i pulled the pan
the cranks was still smooth as a babys butt i stuck new bearings and oil
pump in her and she ran another 300,000 miles before breaking a wrist pin
i,m a firm beleiver in STP on certain things like this
gordon



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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:27:55 -0700
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: smoked tires ,300 I6 in 4x4



Garrett Nelson wrote:
>
> I like buying rear tires often and being ticketed for excessive
> acceleration too. :-)   (only I do it with a 390)

I used to do it with a hotrod 300 I6,
until I went nuts for insane V8 power ....

Anyway , was the 300 I6 an option
in the 1965/66 F250 4x4s?

I may build one of these for the street stock 4x4 class while building
my monster V8 for the Super Stock 4x4 class.

I'm positive it will out pull the stock Ford V10s I saw
at the pull this year ... what a bunch of dogs  :-(
( and , no , they did not run out of traction ... )

dave Prasse

Freeport , IL

1966 F250 4wd
1965 F250 4wd
1966 F250 2wd
1965 F100 2wd

>

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:36:38 -0700
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize



G & J Boling wrote:
>
> i,m a firm beleiver in STP on certain things like this

I agree , I had an oil pump go out on my beater 84 Merc
Colony Park 302.I drove it another 20 miles home,lifters rattling
like a son of a gun ...  pulled the pan to fix the pump,expecting
to see a real mess and needing to slip my 351C in between the fenders
...

well she looked great for a motor with 125,000 miles ... slapped
her back together and have put another 20,000 miles on her ...

Wrong or Right , Slick 50 goes into each oil change ...
with regular 10w40 Dino oil and Motorcraft Filter.

dPrasse

> gordon

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:45:06 -0400


>  On a side note, mom's 120k mile 88 T-bird turbo coupe still has enough
> "shazaam" to blow the doors of a 383 magnum Road Runner
=======================================================
that must have been one sick 383 magnum
stock from the factory with 323 gears and a torque flite tranny they were
turning the 1/4 mile in 13 seconds or less
gordon



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From: "Eric Washburn" <bruce9 flash.net>
Subject: Re: smoked tires ,300 I6 in 4x4
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:46:11 -0500

Hey, Tarrant County Sheriff likes my truck =P I think he likes that body
style cause he kept asking me about it, saying how a nice looking truck it
was.

1967 F100 (Original everything =P) 240 I6 (.060 over)

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Subject: [61-79-list] Re: smoked tires ,300 I6 in 4x4




Garrett Nelson wrote:
>
> I like buying rear tires often and being ticketed for excessive
> acceleration too. :-)   (only I do it with a 390)

I used to do it with a hotrod 300 I6,
until I went nuts for insane V8 power ....

Anyway , was the 300 I6 an option
in the 1965/66 F250 4x4s?

I may build one of these for the street stock 4x4 class while building
my monster V8 for the Super Stock 4x4 class.

I'm positive it will out pull the stock Ford V10s I saw
at the pull this year ... what a bunch of dogs  :-(
( and , no , they did not run out of traction ... )

dave Prasse

Freeport , IL

1966 F250 4wd
1965 F250 4wd
1966 F250 2wd
1965 F100 2wd

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:41:13 EDT
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize

In a message dated 9/27/00 8:27:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
flash1 alltel.net writes:


> i had a semi truck lose darn near ALL the oil pressure 1000 miles from home
> once i drained 5 gallon of oil out and stuck in 5 gallons of STP it was
> about 100 degrees out then to and drove it home then when i pulled the pan
> the cranks was still smooth as a babys butt i stuck new bearings and oil
> pump in her and she ran another 300,000 miles before breaking a wrist pin
> i,m a firm beleiver in STP on certain things like this
> gordon
>

I knew a guy who burned up 3 starters trying to fire his new 350.  It wouldnt
turn over at all.  Chewed out the machinists left and right.  After they
finally convinced him to bring it down, so they could look at it.  Well they
pulled the pan and the engine was full, 5.5 qts of STP treatment.  The guy
figured if one ottle was good per oil change, running nuthing but must be
god's gift.  After a liberal cleaning it was returned to him and fired up
just fine.

Just outta curiosity what caused the drop in pressure?  how bad were the
bearings when ya tore it down?  I imagine that had to be one loose motor to
require STP.  Amzing stuff though.  It did cure the smoking in my old 68
galaxie.  And I use it as part of my assembly lube.  But that guy wanting to
do a break in on the stuff was just too much.  We still laugh about that one.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:44:23 EDT
Subject: Smoked tires?  NOT with a V-10

In a message dated 9/27/00 8:29:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, burgess4 gte.net
writes:


<< I'm positive it will out pull the stock Ford V10s I saw
at the pull this year ... what a bunch of dogs  :-(
( and , no , they did not run out of traction ... )

>>

I had the pleasure of driving my dads friends brand new F-350 with the V-10.
I was not impressed at all.  It had all the pick up of an old wore out 351m.
How Ford could ever consider that as a replacement for the 460 is beyond me.
Dont get me wrong, its a neat motor, but all in all, it was noisy, weak in
the knees, and got worse mileage tham Tweety's 460.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:47:18 EDT
Subject: Re: Factory Turbos

In a message dated 9/27/00 8:39:12 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
flash1 alltel.net writes:


> that must have been one sick 383 magnum
>

In the guys defence, his car stunk pretty bad of varnished gas.  It was still
fun, and we ended up staying up most of the night at the local Sonic talkin
cars and thourogly trashing GM products in the process.

Darrell & Tweety

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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 23:47:59 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Syntehtic vs. Dino Oil was Anti-Seize

At 01:36 AM 9/28/00, you wrote:


>G & J Boling wrote:
>>
>> i,m a firm beleiver in STP on certain things like this
>
>I agree , I had an oil pump go out on my beater 84 Merc
>Colony Park 302.I drove it another 20 miles home,lifters rattling
>like a son of a gun ...  pulled the pan to fix the pump,expecting
>to see a real mess and needing to slip my 351C in between the fenders
>...
>
>well she looked great for a motor with 125,000 miles ... slapped
>her back together and have put another 20,000 miles on her ...
>
>Wrong or Right , Slick 50 goes into each oil change ...
>with regular 10w40 Dino oil and Motorcraft Filter.
>
>dPrasse

Its amazing that people are still buying Slick 50 even AFTER
the Federal Trade Commission fined them for false advertising.
Read the snake oil article in the web site and you'll run to
you truck to drain out the Snake 50.

Ken



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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 ....


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