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61-79-list Digest Mon, 25 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 261

In This Issue:
Re: Thermostat Options
Re: Torque ratings
Re: axle gears     (full of questions today)
Re: axle gears     (full of questions today)
Re: Shorter pushrods?
Re: 460 / 429 Dove heads
Re: axle gears
to: james      dana 60, gearing and such
Re: Help w/ F350
Re: life is too short....
Re: life is too short....
Re: 460 / 429 Dove heads
Re: 460
460 heads
Re: Dual Exhaust
Re: life is too short....
Re: life is too short....
Broncos
Re: life is too short....
Re: life is too short....
Re: life is too short....
Re: Thank you everyone

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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:05:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Thermostat Options

At 06:41 PM 25:09:2000 EDT, Aeroape82 aol.com wrote:
>i HAVE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER THE UNDERSTANDING THAT AN ENG. PERFORMS BEST AT
>BETWEEN 200 AND 210 DEGREES

Could you try to punch the "CapsLock" button before typing a message?

Shouting is *very* rude...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Torque ratings
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:08:33 -0700

Soft (blue) loctite is a good sealer too.  Easily removed and has the added
advantage of keeping the bolt or nut tight.  One of the biggest problems I
encounter is external rust that eats away the nut or bolt head so you can't
get a wrench on it.  I wish there were a miracle spray on sealer/paint that
you could spray over oil and grease that would stick and last a while......

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Has anyone tried putting some type of sealer or lube on the threads that
> stick out after the nut is on?


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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: axle gears     (full of questions today)
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:32:25 -0700

4.11's give you 1921 rpm at 60 mph, 4.56 gives you 2131 and 5.14 gives you
2400 at 60.  It depends what you want to do with it.  The 460 has so much
torque you can get away with fairly tall gears.  The lower the gears you use
the more likely you will be breaking axle parts too, it's all a big
compromise.

I run 2.75 on my truck with stock tires and wide ratio C-6 and really like
the performance but with 44's you have a whole nuther smoke.  My setup
calculates out to 1958 at 60 in high gear (1:1).

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Anyone have an idea what would be the best set of gears to run with 44's,
> 4speed, 460?  The gears in the rear right now get me off the line in no
> time.  I'm shifting out of first in one second (usually start in second),
> and 4th is just about right.


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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:45:59 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: axle gears     (full of questions today)



Gary wrote:
>
> 4.11's give you 1921 rpm at 60 mph, 4.56 gives you 2131 and 5.14 gives you
> 2400 at 60.  It depends what you want to do with it.  The 460 has so much
> torque you can get away with fairly tall gears.  The lower the gears you use
> the more likely you will be breaking axle parts too, it's all a big
> compromise.
>
> I run 2.75 on my truck with stock tires and wide ratio C-6 and really like
> the performance but with 44's you have a whole nuther smoke.  My setup
> calculates out to 1958 at 60 in high gear (1:1).
>

Go at least 4.56, that is what I have with the same setup (400 vs 460
though). If you are ever planning on going to an auto trans, go 5.13.
Stock 9" and D44 axles will never hold up to 44" rubber offroad. Same
your pennies and get a D60 front and a 10.25 or D70 rear.

                                OX

> > Anyone have an idea what would be the best set of gears to run with 44's,
> > 4speed, 460?  The gears in the rear right now get me off the line in no
> > time.  I'm shifting out of first in one second (usually start in second),
> > and 4th is just about right.
>

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Shorter pushrods?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:55:18 -0700

I was wondering about this myself?  There are physical limits to what you
can do with stock rockers and springs and if you change the lifters to a
non-stock type it may affect the push rod length or if you also change the
ratio of the rockers this may require a change but most of these changes are
designed to work with stock length push rods AFAIK.  Most people just slap
in adjustable rockers for these alterations when needed.

Actually, in most cases the lifters would adjust for any change in pushrod
length up to the point of rattling rockers so it would either be accomodated
for or you would have to put the old ones back in because the lifters won't
make up the difference.  The hotter cam will open the valves more which is
why you use it in the first place but the stock springs may "coil bind" and
unseat the keepers blowing the engine.....so you "may" need to alter the
springs or valve keepers or both to prevent this.  Some may not understand
this but dual or tripple springs are used for two reasons:

1.. more total pressure.....using.....
2..thinner wire so they can be compressed to a smaller stack for more
movement

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Bill B. writes: >>Yes you can run a cam with more lift but you may need to
get shorter
> pushrods<<
>
> Wanna splain this to me??  The backside(downside) of the cam remains the
same, so why
> would you want shorter pushrods??  That would defeat the purpose of more
lift on the cam



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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:04:12 EDT
Subject: Re: 460 / 429 Dove heads

In a message dated 9/25/00 5:57:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
WEDIVE247 aol.com writes:

<<     Ok one & all, Whats so great about these types of heads ? I've got
access to 2 sets . One set I'm told is 1969 the other is 1970. This guy says
he wants $100.00 per set. Is this a good price ?
 >>

I do not know if there is anything great about them.  They do have
approximately 75cc combustion chambers as opposed the later heads that have
approximately 95cc combustion chambers.  This makes it fairly easy to raise
the compression ratio and get maybe another 100HP.  But, it has to be done
with some thought as not to end up with an engine that will run on pump gas.
However, I think the price is extremely good if you have a use for them or
think you can turn them around quickly.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:11:07 -0400
From: George Selby <gselby4x4 earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: axle gears

At 08:08 PM 9/25/00 -0400, you wrote:
>This brings up an interesting question in my head so I thought I'd type it out
>and see if anyone knew the answer off-hand ... you
>off-road/rock-crawling/mud-bogging
>4wheelers out there who break these D44's ... is this usually in 4-lo ?  is
>it usually the axle shaft itself, or the center section ?


Excessive torque (to the axle) usually results in breakage.  High HP
usually results in premature wear.  So a four wheeler breaks the weakest
part of the axle (usually the axle u-joint or the long side shaft) with the
engine torque multiplied through the tranny and transfer case, while the
high HP Corvette or Cobra wears the teeth off the ring and pinion rather
quickly.  Also remember that while torque is multiplied through the
transmission system (about 5000 ft-lbs in my truck in granny/lo, the HP
remains constant in each gear (we'll say 250-300 HP)  because the increase
in torque is offset by a reduction in RPM output shaft.

George Selby
78 F-150 4x4 400 4 spd
86 Nissan 300ZX
gselby4x4 earthlink.net
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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: to: james      dana 60, gearing and such
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:13:57 -0400

Actually, I have a 14 bolt GM rear.  A friend owns a U-Pull and I'm hoping
he'll come across a D60 front end that I can toy with.  I might just go
ahead and try to weld the D44 C bushing mounts to the D60.  This isn't
something I was thinking of till recently, but for what I'm planning on
doing with the truck, it seems to be the way to go.  Do you have a D60 under
one or so of your trucks?

Hey James, where in Jersey do you live?  I'm in Philadelphia and I'd really
like to stop buy some time.  It would be a tiny trek to see a great
collection of 4 '79 Bronco's.  Also, to see how things are done right!  I
seem to be starting a collection of my own...

-bob-

if you want to email me off the list, you can at xavetarx home.com

-----Original Message-----
From: 61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com
[mailto:61-79-list-bounce ford-trucks.com]On Behalf Of James Oxley
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 9:46 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: axle gears (full of questions today)




Gary wrote:
>
> 4.11's give you 1921 rpm at 60 mph, 4.56 gives you 2131 and 5.14 gives you
> 2400 at 60.  It depends what you want to do with it.  The 460 has so much
> torque you can get away with fairly tall gears.  The lower the gears you
use
> the more likely you will be breaking axle parts too, it's all a big
> compromise.
>
> I run 2.75 on my truck with stock tires and wide ratio C-6 and really like
> the performance but with 44's you have a whole nuther smoke.  My setup
> calculates out to 1958 at 60 in high gear (1:1).
>

Go at least 4.56, that is what I have with the same setup (400 vs 460
though). If you are ever planning on going to an auto trans, go 5.13.
Stock 9" and D44 axles will never hold up to 44" rubber offroad. Same
your pennies and get a D60 front and a 10.25 or D70 rear.

                                OX

> > Anyone have an idea what would be the best set of gears to run with
44's,
> > 4speed, 460?  The gears in the rear right now get me off the line in no
> > time.  I'm shifting out of first in one second (usually start in
second),
> > and 4th is just about right.
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:19:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Paul Rozell <prozell yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Help w/ F350

Hi All,
I looked at the truck this evening and it is in fact the heater core. The truck has planty of heat
the core was leaking so they un-hooked the hoses from the pump and by-passed the heater core. I am
going to change the heater core this weekend. Any advice before I start....


Thanks in advance.

Paul
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> What seems to be the problem with the heating system, other than it has a
> problem?
> Jason Kendrick
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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: life is too short....
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:22:13 -0700

Smile when you say that dude......:-)  I'm a skilled typist and my wife
leaves the caps lock on so I get about two lines typed usually before I
realize what the problem is and have to delete the whole thing.....some are
not skilled typists so it's a lot more work :-)  It's only shouting when it
IS shouting.......:-)

You'se guys need to get thicker skin......I happen to know more about
everything than you'se guys (just ask me) so if you don't want to listen
then go take a fly........I hope your fords all turn into chevies.......NOW
can we get back to just gabbing about ford trucks? :-)

(can't wait to see who takes this seriously, bet I already know the
names....:-))  There is a serious message here, can you find it?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

>  Shouting is *very* rude...



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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: life is too short....
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:35:23 -0500


Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.


;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war here.


---Garrett www.1966ford.com




 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Gary
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:22 AM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....


 Smile when you say that dude......:-)  I'm a skilled typist and my wife
 leaves the caps lock on so I get about two lines typed usually before I
 realize what the problem is and have to delete the whole thing.....some are
 not skilled typists so it's a lot more work :-)  It's only shouting when it
 IS shouting.......:-)

 You'se guys need to get thicker skin......I happen to know more about
 everything than you'se guys (just ask me) so if you don't want to listen
 then go take a fly........I hope your fords all turn into chevies.......NOW
 can we get back to just gabbing about ford trucks? :-)

 (can't wait to see who takes this seriously, bet I already know the
 names....:-))  There is a serious message here, can you find it?

 Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

 >  Shouting is *very* rude...




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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 460 / 429 Dove heads
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:33:33 -0700

What I've heard is that they have smaller runners, smaller combustion
chambers and decent sized valves, all of which are nice in a low rpm torque
engine.

Many of us would gladly pay $100/set for these.....

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

>      Ok one & all, Whats so great about these types of heads ? I've got
> access to 2 sets . One set I'm told is 1969 the other is 1970. This guy
says
> he wants $100.00 per set. Is this a good price ?



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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: 460
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:45:13 -0700

When you pull the pcv valve out of the valve cover the engine slows down
right?  Why?

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

Plumbed in a PVC
> system and ended the water condensation in the oil.  One 10 mile trip and
> the oil was pure gold, or new oil color which ever you prefer.  Cured that
> problem - but ever since acts now like it's got a major vacume leak -
which
> the pvc system basically is.



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From: "tony something" <tonysjunk hotmail.com>
Subject: 460 heads
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:27:34 GMT

   Okay take a deep breath and say this 3 times fast....
   DzeroVE (1970)heads feature a 10.5:1 compression ratio, 75.8 cc
combustion chamber 2.08/1.66 valves (nothing special) and positive stop
rocker arms and rail type rocker arms. (cast iron and non adjustabe I think)
 If one set of heads has a C9VE cast into it, it's a 1969 head, has has a
sightly smaller cumbustion chamber (73.5cc for 11.3:1 C/R) and larger valves
(2.24/1.725)  These are supposedly CJ, SCJ and Police heads.  Don't quote me
though, this is information that I am copying out of a book that was written
over 20 years ago(You know, the book written by Tom Monroe)  For comparison
purposes, 460 heads with a casting number of D2/D3VE will have a
significantly lower C/R, 8.5:1, D4VE have 8.0:1 C/R and both have stamped
steel non adj. rocker arms.  They have the same valve sizes as the D0VE
head.
    I paid $87.24 ($10 core and $16 for an exchange guarantee) for my set
from a junkyard, and I had to pull them myself.  $100 isn't bad (IMHO) IF he
will swap you out for the other heads if they check out bad at the machine
shop, or give you your $$$ back (you loose out on what it cost you to get
'em checked) then yeah I think it would be a decent price.  If they look
brand new( i.e. he had them rebuilt and never ran them) then yeah it's an
awesome price.  Remeber this though, chances are that you will need to have
the heads gone through (more than likely they are warped)and will possibly
need a complete rebuild or at least a good 3 angle valve job.
     If you dont mind gettin dirty and waiting for a while for a set to
roll around, try out your local junkyards, you might be able to turn up a
set or two for a bit less green and score some other cool stuff while you
are at it.

good hunting.

Tony

'79 Need a truck, stuck with a boat anchor

>From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
>Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:56:21 EDT
>Subject: Re: 460 / 429 Dove heads


>     Ok one & all, Whats so great about these types of heads ? I've got
>access to 2 sets . One set I'm told is 1969 the other is 1970. This guy
> >says
>he wants $100.00 per set. Is this a good price ?

>Steve     64 f-100



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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:27:31 EDT
Subject: Re: Dual Exhaust

In a message dated 9/24/2000 7:42:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
hosses kootenaycable.com writes:

<< Hello list, Can anyone give me some insight into dual exhausts on a '79
f150 4x4 351M 4sp dual tanks. I want to keep my stock manifolds for now. Is
there anyway to run the exhaust down both sides or would I have to run both
down the ditch side. If I do then would it better to exit both on the same
side or run another pipe over at the back end. It seems like this would make
one pipe run a heck of a lot longer than the other. If I ran a crossover pipe
would this make it not matter.  Thanks.
 >>

The choice is really up to you. with most 4x4's it's hard to get the pipe
around the xfer case. This makes the dual "ditch side" look more attractive.
One possible alternative if you want the exit on both sides look is to route
the Pass side pipe over to the drivers side and let the drivers side exhaust
on the pass side. This would keep both approx equal length and avoid the
hassles getting the pipe around the drivers side xfer case.

George in Fl.

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:53:59 EDT
Subject: Re: life is too short....

Garrett:  Lighten up fella;  just ponder this one:  If I could post HTML to
the list I probably would and I would make it in my favorite great big, 16pt,
blue, "Tahoma" text.
:-)

FTE Content:   I have (20) 1967's logged into the registry.

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee

> Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.
>
>
>   ;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war
> here.

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: life is too short....
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:02:03 -0500


Yeah, I know you would.... Don't worry, I don't take anything here very seriously, I usually laugh at stuff like this.

:)


---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: TBeeee aol.com
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:53 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....


 Garrett:  Lighten up fella;  just ponder this one:  If I could post HTML to
 the list I probably would and I would make it in my favorite great big, 16pt,
 blue, "Tahoma" text.
 :-)

 FTE Content:   I have (20) 1967's logged into the registry.

 Thom
 1967 F-Series Registry
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 > Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.
 >
 >
 >   ;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war
 > here.
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From: "Mike Mackie" <bigred connect.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:07:09 -0600
Subject: Broncos

For all you Bronco fans out there, the latest Collectible
Automobile magazine (Dec 2000) has an article on the 66-77's.

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: life is too short....
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:18:47 -0400

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG    ?????  !!!!!!!
-----Original Message-----
From: Garrett Nelson <garrettnelson writeme.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:42 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....


>
>Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.
>
>
> ;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war
here.
>
>
>---Garrett www.1966ford.com
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Gary
>  To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:22 AM
>  Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....
>
>
>  Smile when you say that dude......:-)  I'm a skilled typist and my wife
>  leaves the caps lock on so I get about two lines typed usually before I
>  realize what the problem is and have to delete the whole thing.....some
are
>  not skilled typists so it's a lot more work :-)  It's only shouting when
it
>  IS shouting.......:-)
>
>  You'se guys need to get thicker skin......I happen to know more about
>  everything than you'se guys (just ask me) so if you don't want to listen
>  then go take a fly........I hope your fords all turn into
chevies.......NOW
>  can we get back to just gabbing about ford trucks? :-)
>
>  (can't wait to see who takes this seriously, bet I already know the
>  names....:-))  There is a serious message here, can you find it?
>
>  Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
>  78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)
>
>  >  Shouting is *very* rude...
>
>
>
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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: life is too short....
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:41:08 -0500


OK. I love you guys!

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Tim and Pam Allgire
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 Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:18 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....


 CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG    ?????  !!!!!!!




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 From: Garrett Nelson <garrettnelson writeme.com>
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
 Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:42 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....


 >
 >Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.
 >
 >
 > ;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war
 here.
 >
 >
 >---Garrett www.1966ford.com
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >  ----- Original Message -----
 >  From: Gary
 >  To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 >  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:22 AM
 >  Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....
 >
 >
 >  Smile when you say that dude......:-)  I'm a skilled typist and my wife
 >  leaves the caps lock on so I get about two lines typed usually before I
 >  realize what the problem is and have to delete the whole thing.....some
 are
 >  not skilled typists so it's a lot more work :-)  It's only shouting when
 it
 >  IS shouting.......:-)
 >
 >  You'se guys need to get thicker skin......I happen to know more about
 >  everything than you'se guys (just ask me) so if you don't want to listen
 >  then go take a fly........I hope your fords all turn into
 chevies.......NOW
 >  can we get back to just gabbing about ford trucks? :-)
 >
 >  (can't wait to see who takes this seriously, bet I already know the
 >  names....:-))  There is a serious message here, can you find it?
 >
 >  Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
 >  78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)
 >
 >  >  Shouting is *very* rude...
 >
 >



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Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:16:23 -0700
From: dave Prasse <burgess4 gte.net>
Subject: Re: life is too short....



Garrett Nelson wrote:
>
> OK. I love you guys!

OH GREAT !!  NOW WE'RE GETTING "MUSHY!!"

EEEWWWW !!!!

Where's a good flame ?  :-)

dPrasse
PS.

the info on the d44s has been real interesting as has the 460 info and
the m motor stuff and the power steering conversion info and the ....

is all non caps and run on thoughts just as annoying ?  :-)




>
> ---Garrett www.1966ford.com
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Tim and Pam Allgire
>   To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>   Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 11:18 PM
>   Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....
>
>   CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG    ?????  !!!!!!!
>
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Garrett Nelson <garrettnelson writeme.com>
>   To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
>   Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 10:42 PM
>   Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....
>
>   >
>   >Excuses, excuses... it's still really annoying.
>   >
>   >
>   > ;-)           <----- added that so as not to start too big of a flame war
>   here.
>   >
>   >
>   >---Garrett www.1966ford.com
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>   >  ----- Original Message -----
>   >  From: Gary
>   >  To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>   >  Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 12:22 AM
>   >  Subject: [61-79-list] Re: life is too short....
>   >
>   >
>   >  Smile when you say that dude......:-)  I'm a skilled typist and my wife
>   >  leaves the caps lock on so I get about two lines typed usually before I
>   >  realize what the problem is and have to delete the whole thing.....some
>   are
>   >  not skilled typists so it's a lot more work :-)  It's only shouting when
>   it
>   >  IS shouting.......:-)
>   >
>   >  You'se guys need to get thicker skin......I happen to know more about
>   >  everything than you'se guys (just ask me) so if you don't want to listen
>   >  then go take a fly........I hope your fords all turn into
>   chevies.......NOW
>   >  can we get back to just gabbing about ford trucks? :-)
>   >
>   >  (can't wait to see who takes this seriously, bet I already know the
>   >  names....:-))  There is a serious message here, can you find it?
>   >
>   >  Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
>   >  78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)
>   >
>   >  >  Shouting is *very* rude...
>   >
>   >
>
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From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH GCI.NET>
Subject: Re: Thank you everyone
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 22:33:46 -0800

Dawn this is kinda off the list info but try www.dialpad.com if you have a
good enough processor you can make long distance calls anywhere in the
united states for FREE. No charge to you, just some annoying tickers but if
you can ignore them , hey free phone calls are great, I use it to call my
parents in Oregon from Alaska, and A cobra driving in portland traffic is
NUTS! ! ! ! ! ! I have driven that traffic lots of times before I moved up
here in 98 and I tell ya I wouldnt want a nice car in that traffic specially
on i5 or even i84 for that matter good luck to ya,
Keith
71 F250 4wd ( I FOUND THE DONOR PARTS TRUCK FOR THE POWER STEERING AND GOT
THE PARTS FOR FREE! ! ! ! !)
81 Ford Courier (Still a good little Stereo rig .....only $2000 into the
stereo so far,and the truck was $800 hehehe)
-----Original Message-----
From: Dawn Chere <dawnchere ados.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Monday, September 25, 2000 3:11 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Thank you everyone


>
>Thanks everyone for all the information, and I do have a haynes or chilton
its out in the truck at the moment so I'm not sure which it is.  I do know
somethings but I'm still just learning. . . I didn't have a father around
all the time to teach me.  And at that point in my life I was more
interested in working at making money than working on cars anyway.  (Typical
teenage girl)
>
>Apparently the guy that had this truck did a few alterations (Tom said
something about changing the electronic ignition to points) but he got that
worked out. . . like I said to begin with this was an oops truck. . . If I'd
a known that Tom hadn't checked it out and didn't want me to bid on it I
wouldn't have. . . at least not without checking it out myself, in which
case I wouldn't have with all we could see wrong with it after the auction,
but after I won the auction I had no choice.
>
>I do have another running vehicle (I'm driving Tom's Shelby Charger around
Portland and St. Helens) but Tom has a job interview at the end of the week
for a job in Colorado Springs and if he gets it they said they want the
position filled last month so we'll have to move rather quickly (within say
two weeks being generous).  I need the truck able to tow the Charger to
Colorado.  Tom will drive out the Shadow and take the bus back and then use
the Moving truck to tow the Porsche.
>
>It won't be so hectic after the end of the week we'll more than likely know
by Monday if we have to move.  If we don't I can slowly work on the truck;
clean out the garage and try to move it in there (if it will fit even
cleaned out <G>).
>
>Tom knows what he's doing mechanically and electrically, the problem is
with his hours there is no daylight left to work on the vehicles. . . I've
done more mechanical work in the last three months on the vehicles than I
have in the nearly 12 years we've been married. <G>
>
>Sorry I'm being so full of questions but Y'all often have better ways than
the Manuals that are just as good but take less time and more ingenuity. . .
its from experience. . . If I could afford the phone calls I'd be calling
Tom's and My Dads.  But they each live in different states and neither use
email but maybe twice a month. ....


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