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61-79-list Digest Mon, 18 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 251

In This Issue:
1987 300 CID Throttle Body
Re: EFI wiring connectors
Re: Clouds and clouds of white smoke
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Calling all Inline 6 Guru's - Part 2
Re: axle identification  ??
Re: axle identification  ??
Re: axle identification  ??
390 windage plate
Tanny id
Re: 390 motor
Re: 390 windage plate
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Plastic interior door panels from LMC catalo g
Re: Plastic interior door panels from LMC catalog
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: 390 windage plate
WD-40 as protectant on freshly machined parts
Assembly lube
Re: Where does thre tire iron go on a '76 F100?
Re: Discovery
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Where does thre tire iron go on a '76
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Discovery
Non FTE content
Re: Anti-Seize
Re: Assembly lubes
Re: 390 windage plate
Re: Assembly lube
Re: Discovery

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From: Charley Schwartz <charley net1plus.com>
Subject: 1987 300 CID Throttle Body
Date: Mon, Sep 18 2000 15:32:11 GMT-0400

Anyone know of a source for a reasonably priced throttle bosy for the 1987 300 CID six?


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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:35:20 -0700
From: William King <kingw bgnet.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: EFI wiring connectors

Tom H.,
You're a genius.  Thanks for sharing this handy hint.

Ohio Bill

>You can use a needle nose pliers as a heat sink.  I usually put a rubber
>band on the handle to make a clamp out of them.  With a heat sink you can
>heat the end of the wire more without damaging the insulation on the wire.


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From: "Ballinger" <ballingr sbmu.net>
Subject: Re: Clouds and clouds of white smoke
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:01:31 -0500

Thanks for the replies.

I talked to my machinist and he said it could be a cracked head but most
likely it is the head gasket.

I might end up with a valve job out of the deal, it's turning into one of
those "While we're this far we might as well..."  Hope I can control myself.

Next hurdle is getting the exhaust manifolds off - now where did that
penitrating oil go...

Marty>>>>

You will likely break a couple anyway, but try spraying PB Blaster on them
every day for a week before you try.  Then when you do it, try to tighten
them a little first.  Let the machine shop get them out if you break any, an
easy-out will snap off.


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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:15:21 -0700

WD-40 stands for Water Displacement.  It was the 40th mixture they tested.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD
Happiness is: The Feel of Warm Deer Guts in My Hands.
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:10 AM
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> ><< You should not use wd-40 to install threaded parts since it is water
based
>
> > and actually can cause some corrosion in that application. >>
> >
> >I wonder why every time I use W-D 40 it repels water? One example I know
of
>
> >is to displace moister out of a distributor.
> >
>
> I think that's why its called Water Dispersant or something like that,
someone
> posted the whole history of WD-40 some time ago, it was developed for the
minuteman
> missile, or one of those that hides in a silo, they needed it to last for
years
> without rusting, WD-40 was supposed to prevent rust by forcing the water
out
> ... so it being water based itself and causing rust seems somehow
backwards
> ...
>
> Maybe I've got that url around here somewhere ...
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:09:32 -0700
From: Keith Srb <herbie ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Calling all Inline 6 Guru's - Part 2

At 05:40 PM 09/18/2000 +0000, you wrote:

> >I have had limited success using a breaker bar/socket and hammer but be
> >aware that this treatment will eventually, if not immediately, lead to
> >damaging the breaker bar.  If you remove the pulleys you may be able to get
>
> >a box wrench on it which works much better IMHO but is more work.
> >
>
>Dunno if I should admit this or not, but I had good luck (albiet
>unintentionally)
>with the starter and a breaker bar ...
>
>Good thing I caught it before that pulley came off the front, that would've
>sucked for my fresh 390 that had only been in the truck for a half an hour...

I would be afraid to try this.  With my luck, I would probably end up
breaking some of the teeth off the fly wheel.

Keith



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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:12:44 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: Re: axle identification  ??



"Nichols, Josh" wrote:
>
> Sounds like  a GM 14-bolt -- About equivalent in strength as a Dana 70
>

How many bolts does a dana 70 cover have, maybe it is a dana 70.

                           OX

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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:38:42 EDT
Subject: Re: axle identification  ??

In a message dated 9/18/00 1:16:40 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
luxjo thecore.com writes:

<< How many bolts does a dana 70 cover have, maybe it is a dana 70.  >>

Same as a Dana 60, they share the same cover.  I believe its 10 or 12, not
100% sure.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: axle identification  ??
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 13:50:01 -0700

I beilive the D60 and D70 share the same cover? I belive it has only 12
bolts -- But I could be wrong.

Josh

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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 1:13 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: axle identification ??




"Nichols, Josh" wrote:
>
> Sounds like  a GM 14-bolt -- About equivalent in strength as a Dana 70
>

How many bolts does a dana 70 cover have, maybe it is a dana 70.

                           OX
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From: "Geo" <cabal micron.net>
Subject: 390 windage plate
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:59:13 -0600


Hello all,

   Any one know were I could locate a windage plate for a 390FE?  I believe that is the correct name.  It is a plate that bolts between the oil pan and block to "scrap" off oil from the crank.

George Beck
1968 F-100


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From: "Geo" <cabal micron.net>
Subject: Tanny id
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:09:19 -0600


Another question,

   I have looked all over for this with no luck so far.  My '68, according to the data plate, was built with an automatic transmission however a 4 speed manual is sitting in it now.  Here are all the #'s that I could locate on the tranny but with identification sites on the web I have not been able to make a match.

On tag (top drivers side): 02A3EA-1
On top of case:               1  0D ( the zero looks more like a wheel)
                             18      01     097    802

Thinking of putting a C6 in there but would like to know what I have right now.  Thanks much for any help.

George Beck
1968 F-100



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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: 390 motor
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:42:40 -0700


> I am running about 12 degrees initial advance. I run regular gas. I have
> not noticed any pinging at any load, RPM, or heat condition.

Sounds like you could bump up the CR if you really wanted to. I wouldn't
(BTDT). Both of my 390's are at 10:1 and I wish I'd have built them at 9:1
instead. The air and fuel quality isn't what it used to be 30 years ago.

> The intake manifold is about a 1968 4V manifold (the port sizes do match
up
> to my heads). The Holley is a 600cfm 4160 derivative. It is marketed at
> "emissions legal for '72". I think the number is 5184. (perhaps this is
the
> culprit; there is still a bog off idle that I can't seem to get out. I
have
> even upped the pump shot two sizes) And yes, sea level.

Adjustments in the accelerator pump circuit can be made by changing the
squirter nozzle size, accelerator pump cam, and pump cam location.

I strongly suggest that you buy the book "Super Tuning and Modifying Holley
Carburetors" by Dave Emanuel (ISBN #0-931472-08-3). The time and money you
spend working on carburetion should pay off with better performance and MPG.


Michael
69 F250 390 4V, 600 CFM Holley, T18, 3.55 LS
69 F250 390 4V, 600 CFM Holley, C6, 4.11 (4.56 LS coming soon!)
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.csolutions.net/myth/ford/



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From: Matt Senn <msenn avistacom.net>
Subject: Re: 390 windage plate
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:36:26 -0700

here's an FE oil pan (ugly) and a windage tray on ebay
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=434716133&
r=0&t=0

-----Original Message-----
From: Geo [mailto:cabal micron.net]
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To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] 390 windage plate



Hello all,

   Any one know were I could locate a windage plate for a 390FE?  I believe
that is the correct name.  It is a plate that bolts between the oil pan and
block to "scrap" off oil from the crank.

George Beck
1968 F-100

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From: "Michael" <danger csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:55:32 -0700

   You should have seen me grinning from ear to ear as I removed the stock
exhaust manifolds on my 390 to put headers on. I knew I didn't have to worry
about breaking an exhaust bolt because I assembled using Permatex anti-seize
compound.

Michael
~~~~~~~~~~~~


> Oh yeah, one more thing, the brand they use at John Deere is called
Nevr-Seeze
> I believe, I've got a can of it at home and its pretty good stuff ... my
girlfriend's
> dad gave it to me, he calls it "next guy stuff," cause it helps the next
guy
> out, and if you're the next guy you'll really appreciate usin it, and hate
yourself
> if you don't :)
>
>
> Just my $.02
> wish



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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 18:41:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall <sch8489 garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize

On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Gary wrote:

> You should not use wd-40 to install threaded parts since it is water based
> and actually can cause some corrosion in that application.  Use regular
> engine oil or anti-seize.

wd-40 is primarily kerosene.

scott


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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:37:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: "D. DiMartino" <grunon yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Plastic interior door panels from LMC catalo g

try www.lmctruck.com

fill out the request and they will send you a catalog.




=====
Daniel DiMartino
<grunon yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4

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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 21:49:21 EDT
Subject: Re: Plastic interior door panels from LMC catalog

In a message dated 9/17/00 11:58:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
dawnchere ados.com writes:

<< OK I give up I read all the LMC catalog emails and there isn't an address
or
webpage for getting one. . . I know that I need at least one of them plastic
door panels for my F250 so if you could be kind to this very tired woman I
would appreciate a webpage or address so I know how to get my hands on a
catalog.

Thanks
Dawn Chere
'78 F 100 >>

www.lmctruck.com will get you there.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:11:32 -0400
From: bill poudrier <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize

First I just bought a can of Nickle based anti seize compound
and it is supposed to be much better than the aluminum one, I
guess I will find out!!! It was over $20 but it was a good
sized can.

Secondly what do folks put on freshly machined engine parts
that may not get assembled right away.  You know rods, journals,
and cylinder walls.  Maybe WD-40 maybe not?

Lastly are there any opinions on assembly lube?  Whats your favorites.
A friend of mine assembles his automatic transmissions with vasaline.

Bill





At 03:55 PM 9/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
>    You should have seen me grinning from ear to ear as I removed the stock
>exhaust manifolds on my 390 to put headers on. I knew I didn't have to worry
>about breaking an exhaust bolt because I assembled using Permatex anti-seize
>compound.
>
>Michael
>~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>> Oh yeah, one more thing, the brand they use at John Deere is called
>Nevr-Seeze
>> I believe, I've got a can of it at home and its pretty good stuff ... my
>girlfriend's
>> dad gave it to me, he calls it "next guy stuff," cause it helps the next
>guy
>> out, and if you're the next guy you'll really appreciate usin it, and hate
>yourself
>> if you don't :)
>>
>>
>> Just my $.02
>> wish
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:18:18 -0400
From: bill poudrier <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: 390 windage plate

PAW 1998 catalog page 733.  Has a Ford motorsport FE indage
tray and 2 gaskets for $33.95.  It makes a sandwich between the
pan and the block.


At 02:59 PM 9/18/00 -0600, you wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>
>    Any one know were I could locate a windage plate for a 390FE?  I
believe that is the correct name.  It is a plate that bolts between the oil
pan and block to "scrap" off oil from the crank.
>
>George Beck
>1968 F-100
>
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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:22:19 EDT
Subject: WD-40 as protectant on freshly machined parts

I kept a can of WD-40 right by my side when I rebuilt my I6 240 last year.
Every part which I cleaned received a fresh coat of WD.  It worked very well
on keeping rust out of the cylinder bores too.  These started to rust almost
immediately after giving the block a final wash before assembly.  All I did
was sray them down and wipe them with a fresh rag and the rust was "gone" for
all intents and purposes.

I don't profess to be an expert on the stuff either, but  I believe it does
have a "kerosene-like" base as was already mentioned.

Thom
1967 F-Series Registry
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:25:53 EDT
Subject: Assembly lube

In a message dated 9/18/00 7:10:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
poudrier ma.ultranet.com writes:

<< Lastly are there any opinions on assembly lube?  What's your favorites.
A friend of mine assembles his automatic transmissions with vasaline. >>

I use a 50/50 mix of STP oil treatment and straight 40 weight oil.  I used
white grease till someone told me to put some on the bench overnight.  It
turns yellow and gummy.  I didnt like the idea of putting that in a motor, so
thats when someone told me about the 50/50 stuff.  Works great.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:31:10 EDT
Subject: Re: Where does thre tire iron go on a '76 F100?

In a message dated 9/18/2000 12:28:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kahrs pixar.com writes:

<< I found an F100 at a pick-n-pull this weekend that was amazingly intact. I
found a stock radio, antenna, nice front bumper, windshield wipers and spare
tire bracket. I also found the original jack under the hood under its wing
nut bracket. (Now I know what that bracket's for.)

Anyway, I don't have a manual for my truck, does anyone know where the tire
iron goes? I have a feeling it's got that hidden away too. >>


In my old '73 F100 the tire tron (lug wrench) was behind and under the seat
along wiith the jacks crank handle. The spare was under the bed. My joke at
the time (bad as it is/was) was that you better not get a flat while drunk,
you'd never find all the stuff to change it!

Geroge M in Fl.

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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:32:01 EDT
Subject: Re: Discovery

I took the "Q" from this list and fabricated a dip stick tube for the mid
sump oil pan on my 460 using a 3/8" brake line.  It worked great until the
other day when I walked into a parts store and noticed a chrome tube and dip
stick for GM big block.  It looked just like the one I made, except shinny,
had the guy behind the counter measure it and it was 21 inches long which is
the same as the one I made.  Bought it and checked directly against the one I
made, it did not even need to be recalibrated.  Oh, and it only cost $8.00,
screws right in and looks sharp.

I have a question, where can one get a hose that connects the breather cap to
the air cleaner?  I tried using heater hose but it is to heavy to make sharp
bends.  Any help would be appreciated.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 19:38:13 -0700

WD-40 is great for protecting crank journals, cylinder walls, etc. Just make
sure you wipe everything down with some sort of degreaser/solvent before
starting final assembly.

As far as assembly lube goes it depends on the application. I personally
think that a good moly based lubricant is the best all around for engines
because it's extremely slippery and also has high pressure additives to
reduce metal to metal wear during break in. Automatic transmissions are a
different story. Most of the professionals I've worked with use Vaseline.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: "bill poudrier" <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Anti-Seize


> First I just bought a can of Nickle based anti seize compound
> and it is supposed to be much better than the aluminum one, I
> guess I will find out!!! It was over $20 but it was a good
> sized can.
>
> Secondly what do folks put on freshly machined engine parts
> that may not get assembled right away.  You know rods, journals,
> and cylinder walls.  Maybe WD-40 maybe not?
>
> Lastly are there any opinions on assembly lube?  Whats your favorites.
> A friend of mine assembles his automatic transmissions with vasaline.
>




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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:27:43 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Where does thre tire iron go on a '76

67-72's go under the seat.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm    (for sale!!)


At 01:10 PM 9/18/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> Anyway, I don't have a manual for my truck, does anyone know where the tire
>> iron goes? I have a feeling it's got that hidden away too.
>
>You didn't say what year. On my 79 it's right next to the jack.
>
>-- John
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Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 22:30:12 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize

At 01:15 PM 9/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
>WD-40 stands for Water Displacement.  It was the 40th mixture they tested.

Serves as a great starting fluid in a pinch too.

Stu
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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 00:52:32 -0400

i cant re callif it was here ot not but someone i heard not long ago said to
use milk of magnesia as a anti sieze also on bolts and nuts
gordon


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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:22:48 GMT
Subject: Re: Discovery

>I have a question, where can one get a hose that connects the breather cap to

>the air cleaner?  I tried using heater hose but it is to heavy to make sharp

>bends.  Any help would be appreciated.

Most air cleaner assemblies don't really need any sharp bends from the breather
to the aircleaner ... is this a stock application or an aftermarket air cleaner
?

I think they also sell PCV hose that works just as well for the air cleaner
... if you really need a bend, they do sell heater hoses with bends in them
... I put a couple of those together to get over to the carb baseplate on my
truck when I put it together ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Non FTE content
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:06:15 -0500


Deacon writes:  >>Goodbye!, farewell!, adieu!, au revoir!, auf Wiedersehen!,
arrivederci!, adios!, aloha!, be seeing you!, catch you later!, see you
later!, cheerio!, ciao!, bye-bye!, ta-ta!, so long!, pleasant journey!,
have a good trip!, bon voyage!, God be with you!<<

Yo Deacon!!  Rare form my friend, Rare indeed.....  Good to see you posting
a bit more than you were not so long ago..

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Seize
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 07:44:57 -0700

Yep, that was Chris Samuel. He stated that it worked better than most of the
commercial anti-seizes out there especially on exhaust manifold/header bolts
because of the high temperature.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 9:52 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Anti-Seize


> i cant re callif it was here ot not but someone i heard not long ago said
to
> use milk of magnesia as a anti sieze also on bolts and nuts
> gordon




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From: oldfords63 juno.com
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 09:47:55 -0500
Subject: Re: Assembly lubes

<< Lastly are there any opinions on assembly lube?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------------
>  A friend of mine assembles his automatic transmissions with
> vasaline. >> For engines, I use a 50/50 mix of STP oil treatment and
straight 40 weight oil.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------
I'd have to second that Darrell, I've used  STP with 30w for an engine
assm. lube for 25+ years. It stays put too, if the engine hangs on the
stand for a while or you have a "stalled" project. (insert ME here) !
 The vasaline in the trannys is mostly just to hold thrust washers  and
bearings in place till it's all put together. If you ever had one drop
out as you slide it all together you know what I mean.
                   Later, Phil  (64 F-100 & 63 Galaxie)
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From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: 390 windage plate
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 08:38:30 -0700


>
> Hello all,
>
>     Any one know were I could locate a windage plate for a
> 390FE?  I believe that is the correct name.  It is a plate
> that bolts between the oil pan and block to "scrap" off oil
> from the crank.
>
> George Beck
> 1968 F-100
>

There are two items similar to what you describe.  The windage tray is a
screen that bolts between the block and the oil pan to help scavenge oil off
the crank and prevent air turbulence from the crank from keeping oil
suspended in a mist.  If the engine is rotating fast enough it can act like
a tornado.

The other item which you describe functionally is a crank scraper.  It is a
plate that also bolts betweent the block and pan.  It has cutouts that
profile the crank as it rotates past.  Its purpose is to scrape oil off the
crank.  You can make one out of sheet metal.

Try PAW for a source of windage trays.  They are available for FEs.  You
just have to look a little.  Miloden may also make one.

Tom H.

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From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Assembly lube
Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 12:10:38 -0700

I use engine oil for all the parts except the cam and lifters.  Always use a
good moly lube for this or, if not available, rear end lube, 90 wt or higher
is a good alternative and don't be afraid to dump it on.

Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-)

> Lastly are there any opinions on assembly lube?  Whats your favorites.



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