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Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:42:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #236 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sun, 10 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 236 In This Issue: Re: electrical system woes in 79 bronco Re: OFFTOPIC: torino questions Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Re: oil filters Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings rev limiters Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings OFFTOPIC: Torino second question electric window kit from Dennis Carpenter Re: oil filters 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody 61 Mercury short box unibody Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings 1979 CrewCab On Road!! Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Re: oil filters Re: motor mounts Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Re: Slipping 4WD AND Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Whe Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH Subject: Re: electrical system woes in 79 bronco Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:35:14 -0800 Well xavetarx as far as your blinkers and such go, I aint too sure, but with the brakes check your brake switch that is attached to the top of the brake arm under your dash. A good way to test it is to jumper the doggone thing and see if the brakes light up hehehe, or you can do it the technical way and use a guage/voltmeter/circut tester. With the rest of the electrical system, always remember K.I.S.S. Keep it simple stupid. Meaning to always check the easy/inexpensive stuff first like bulbs disconnected wires and the likes -----Original Message----- From: Bob <xavetarx To: 61-79-list Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 6:03 PM Subject: [61-79-list] electrical system woes in 79 bronco >I just purchased my second 79 Bronco. It's a dream of a truck on the >outside, but when you take a look behind the dash, it's a nightmare. The >electrical system is shot to hell. Here is the list of the things that >aren't working: >turn signals >brake lights >tachometer >fuel gauge >overhead light > >The two things I really need to get working pronto are the turn signals and >brake lights. When I turn the signal arm, it makes the noise as if it is >working. But neither the light in the dash, or outside lights work. As for >the brake lights, well, the lights don't go on when I step on the brake. If >someone could tell me where to start looking to try and diagnose and fix >these problems, I'd be much obliged. > >Thanks, > >Bob > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:51:25 EDT Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC: torino questions All of the engine listed are possibly in this Torino. One other is the 400. I had a 74 Torino with one of these. I also agree the 302 is the most likely to be found nestled under that hood. Look to the serial numbers for something to start with if you are not good at engine identity at a glance. Hope this helps. Rollie H. Hunt ------------------------------ From: "Jason Derra" <derrar Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:03:43 -0700 > The hub..... You do have the internal type.....it's the only type that goes > on a Dana 44 axle Maybe this should end "for a '79 F150 from the factory" Some of the earlier 3/4 ton 44's had external hubs. Jeep pickups and Scouts also had the same design of external hubs on their 44's (doesn't really apply). And the Jeep/Scout external hubs and outer parts can be swapped to a Ford which is another way to gain disc brakes. Jason '69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD ------------------------------ From: "Keith" <A2JKEITH Subject: Re: oil filters Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:44:12 -0800 Well I work for Napa and I can confirm the price of the 1515 filter (wix) but up here in Alaska it costs a hair more, if you have doubts as to whether or not your filter is doin its job, go with a high performance filter which will run ya about $6 more or, get the magnetic wrap for it, takes all the metal out anyway (Hope ya dont have metal in your oil to begin with by the way) -----Original Message----- From: David Lindenmayer <davidl To: 61-79-list Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 7:35 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: oil filters >Has any one heard of Motorcraft?????? what would be wrong with closes >thing to ford auto zone sell all kinds >-----Original Message----- >From: Marv & Marge <ae722 >To: 61-79-list >Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 7:20 PM >Subject: [61-79-list] Re: oil filters > > >>"G & J Boling" <flash1 >>> i was wondering if this was a better filter to use and if it was a >>> smaller micron inside of it does anyone know??? >> >>I've been using Wix 51515's, but recently changed to Baldwin B-2's. >>Some truck repair places will tell you that the Fleetguard LF3313's >>are even better, but I don't know. I've got one to try, but what am >>I gonna' find? More soot? Dunno. I used to use Baldwins some thirty >>years ago. Bought 'em by the case from a fleet operator. Then the >>distributer went out of business. They were sort of hard to find here >>in the Los Angeles area, so I used Fram, 'till I read the Minimopar >>document. I even worked for AlliedSignal, and dropped them like a hot, >>oil-filled piece of ........ Looked around and found a new Baldwin >>distributer. BTW, Hastings is made by Baldwin, as well. If you look >>inside a Scamsoil, they look virtually identical, too. (Wonder who >>makes 'em for them?) But Fleetguard is (according to those who SHOULD >>know) made by Cummins, not vended to them. Gotta wonder, though, why >>they would set up a filter line when they could have them made to their >>specs by a filter manufacturer. I do like the idea that they come >>sealed in plastic shrink-wrap, however. >> >>My local Napa guy is selling the Napa Wix for about $7.00. I've been >>buying the Wix's at a heavy-duty fleet truck repair place for $3.52. >>Call around for prices, and consider buying them by the case. They >>might be even cheaper that way. >> >>The Baldwins are $4.13, and the Fleetguards are $4.39 at the fleet >>repair places. >> >>-M- >> >>Marv Miller mailto:ae722 >>"Striving to be the person >> that my dog thinks I am". >>============================================================= >>To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >>Please remove this footer when replying. > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "Erik Marquez" <bronco78 Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 20:00:43 -0800 Humm, well ok,, I just figured we were discussing the hub options on this vehicle in particular, I figured it was obvious that my statement was in relation to that model, year. But I suppose you have a point,, Somebody unknowing may have some how misunderstood my statement and applied it to there non-ford, non-79, non-F150 and confused their external hubs with the internal type.. Knowledge is power, and power is good. Erik Marquez bronco78 http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.gci.net/~bronco78 Home of the BB decal -----Original Message----- From: Jason Derra <derrar To: 61-79-list Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 7:52 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings >> The hub..... You do have the internal type.....it's the only type that >goes >> on a Dana 44 axle > >Maybe this should end "for a '79 F150 from the factory" >Some of the earlier 3/4 ton 44's had external hubs. Jeep pickups and Scouts >also had the same design of external hubs on their 44's (doesn't really >apply). And the Jeep/Scout external hubs and outer parts can be swapped to >a Ford which is another way to gain disc brakes. >Jason >'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 >'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD > > >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:03:50 -0800 Subject: motor mounts From: "George E. Pauline" <amador1 Hi all, got a question! What is the difference between the motor mounts of a 429 and those of a 460 engine? I've been punnishing 385 series engines for the past 30 yr's and never realized there was a difference. G.E.P. (calif.) -- ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson Subject: rev limiters Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:08:42 -0500 I have a Mallory Unilite Distributor and a ProMaster coil on my 390. What are my options for putting a rev limiter on my engine? Is there a cheaper way than getting a Mallory ignition box with all the bells and whistles which I really don't need? ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ------------------------------ From: "Jason Derra" <derrar Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 21:55:30 -0700 I realized what you were talking about. Just some useless (until you need it :^)) information to throw out there. Jason '69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 '96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Erik Marquez" <bronco78 To: <61-79-list Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 9:00 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings > Humm, well ok,, I just figured we were discussing the hub options on this > vehicle in particular, I figured it was obvious that my statement was in > relation to that model, year. But I suppose you have a point,, Somebody > unknowing may have some how misunderstood my statement and applied it to > there > non-ford, non-79, non-F150 and confused their external hubs with the > internal type.. > > Knowledge is power, and power is good. > > Erik Marquez > bronco78 > http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.home.gci.net/~bronco78 > Home of the BB decal > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Derra <derrar > To: 61-79-list > Date: Sunday, September 10, 2000 7:52 PM > Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings > > > >> The hub..... You do have the internal type.....it's the only type that > >goes > >> on a Dana 44 axle > > > >Maybe this should end "for a '79 F150 from the factory" > >Some of the earlier 3/4 ton 44's had external hubs. Jeep pickups and > Scouts > >also had the same design of external hubs on their 44's (doesn't really > >apply). And the Jeep/Scout external hubs and outer parts can be swapped > to > >a Ford which is another way to gain disc brakes. > >Jason > >'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435 > >'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD > > > > > >============================================================= > >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > >Please remove this footer when replying. > > > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:49:18 -0700 From: Negative Image <negativeimage Subject: OFFTOPIC: Torino second question anyone know of a general production page for the torino? mainly where i can find parts listings, paint schemes, etc? thanks in advance. i won't ask any more i swear. -- Andrew Rolfsen 1971 AMC Javelin SST 1968 Mercury Cougar 1966 Plymouth Fury III 1965 Ford F100 Fleetside Pickup (hopefully a torino) ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson Subject: electric window kit from Dennis Carpenter Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 00:04:54 -0500 Anyone tried this? I want to do it but for $450 I want to be sure it's going to work ok. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 22:18:23 -0700 Subject: Re: electrical system woes in 79 bronco From: Mark R Heims <markheims Bob, As far as the turn signals and brake lights, I would check the ground circuits first. I've seen several have problems because of this. The brake lights and turn signals are intermixed in the column. They are connected together in the turn signal switch which allows one taillight to flash while the other is on solid for the stop light. If there is problems with the turn signal switch it will affect both. The best thing I can recommend is a good meter and lots of patience. Are you in central California? I'll give you a hand if you are. Montana Mark (in California until the end of the month) 1978 Ford F150 4x4, The Great Pumpkin http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.initco.net/~mheims/index.html "Bob" writes: > I just purchased my second 79 Bronco. It's a dream of a truck on the > outside, but when you take a look behind the dash, it's a nightmare. ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: oil filters Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 03:11:44 -0400 > Has any one heard of Motorcraft?????? what would be wrong with closes > thing to ford auto zone sell all kinds =========================================================== thats what i use is Motorcraft they are a ford filter far as i know even the ford dealers sell and use them gordon ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ From: "Gary Perry" <glperry Subject: 61 Mercury short box unibody Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 23:41:56 -0500 Found this truck on www.auto-rv.com and owner's number is 517-875-5039 and in Ithaca, MI. It comes with a parts truck for $2,000. Thought it might ping some interest being a Mercury AND a unibody! "G" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:35:03 -0400 From: David Wadson <wadsond Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings >Humm, ok lest start with the hub.. > >The hub..... You do have the internal type.....it's the only type that goes >on a Dana 44 axle I was pretty sure of that...but when I started taking it apart and the pieces weren't matching the diagrams, it got a little confusing! :-) >The culprit that is keeping you from removing the out side gear is a small >external snap ring. It resides in the hub it self (not the locking hub which >is what your trying to remove) take a rag and clean the inside of the hub, , >push the outer locking hub gear in slightly, you will then see the snap ring >that is holding the gear in to the hub. Using a pick set or two small screw >drivers remove the snap ring, the locking hub will now come out. I strongly >suggest sacrificing one small screw driver to the custom tool god.... Heat >the very end of the screw driver up, and bend/form it to a hook shape. This >new tool will make getting under (between the hub and snap ring) the snap >ring much easier, and allow you to "hook" it and pull it out. I'll have another wack at it tonight but we weren't having much luck locating a snap ring that was holding everything in place. If my memory is correct, when the mechanic was replacing ball joints and rotor on the drivers side, he said something about having a heck of a time getting the hub off. So maybe it's not just me! Perhaps I'll try the driver's side first and see if it's any easier. I'll also take the digital camera with me - given that this doesn't seem to be following the shop manuals it would probably make a good addition to the tech library... I'm going to be really ticked today if nobody has those shocks I need in stock... David Wadson - wadsond "PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces. "PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking. "PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into... Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ From: FORDTRKNUT Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:15:53 EDT Subject: 1979 CrewCab On Road!! Well....I finally finished converting my 1979 F-350 2wd to a 4x4. The only thing I have to do is remount the midship gas tank back approx. 8 inches. If I cannot do it because of the crossmembers, I will buy an aftermarket one. Anybody know of a company that will manufacture a special "One Off" one? It drives perfect, but it is alot rougher ride with the front leaf springs. It has a 5" lift from stock and has 35" BF Goodrich Mud Tires on it. The tires are very quite compared to the 39-1/2" Boggers on my 1979 Bronco!!! Anyway....Just wanted to keep the people who asked about the 4x4 conversion updated. For whoever got the CD with all the conversion pictures.....Did you check out all the pics? Thanks & Take Care!!! Wayne Grabley (Clifton, NJ) ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan Subject: Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:19:00 -0700 <Snip> > PS has anyone ever heard of a truck coming from the factory without > emergency brakes? This truck was bought new, I bring it to > Virginia and > fail the State inspection. The knock-out's for the emegency > brake cable was > not even punched out in the rear backing plates. The only > thing in the > truck was the cable going from the emergency brake pedal to > aft of the cab, > nothing else, including nothing for the emegency brake under > the brake drum, > HONEST. (they claimed somebody must have removed them) > > Rich > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > Never heard of a truck coming without a parking/emergency brake. I have seen some with a cable operated brake assemby on the output of the transmission. That would fit in with what you describe. Course your truck might be a Monday/Friday truck. :0) Tom H. ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 04:34:34 -0700 A couple of things. If you are running the original Ford hubs then you have either the internal or the external. The easiest way to tell them apart is that the internal is all smooth on the outside with the allen heads recessed inside the retaining knob. The external have the allen heads inside cutouts on the knob retainer. Chances are you have the internal since I don't think many F150s came with the heavier duty externals. If you are working on the internal then you have to deal with 2 snap rings, 1 external on the end of the axle shaft (the 1 you found) and 1 internal which is recessed into the hub itself (not the locking mechanism). That's the 1 which is preventing you from pulling the rest of the locking mechanism out of the hub. A couple of small screwdrivers should be used to remove it. Also you're going to need the "4 toothed wonder socket" if you plan on servicing the wheel bearings. Most auto supply shops have them. "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wadson" <wadsond To: <61-79-list Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 4:57 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings > > For starters, none of the diagrams in any of my shop manuals seem to > accurately represent my hubs. I'm not sure if they're internal or > external-type free-wheeling hubs - they seem to share pieces and assembly > order from both diagrams in my Haynes manual though the 79 shop manual only > shows internal type. Upon removing the allen head bolts (damn metric sized > nuts), the whole selector knob comes out in one piece, not in multiple like > the Ford shop manual showed. For those of you with a factory manual, it > seemed like the first 4 steps in section 11-12 (Free-running hub (internal > type) removal and installation) were all taken care of in one fell swoop. > Removing one phillips head screw allowed a gear (the outer clutch gear as > per the external type in the Hayne's diagram) to come out, along with a > spring that was behind it. We removed a snap ring from the end of the axle > shaft (the axle shaft snap ring as per the internal type hub diagram) > .After that we couldn't get anywhere. There seemed to be two gear pieces > (re. external type hub diagram) inside of the actual hub assembly - a gear > housing that the allen head screws that held the whole thing together > screwed into, and a smaller gear inside (the inner clutch gear/ring) that > was pressed over the end of the axle shaft. For the life of us, we couldn't > figure out how to get either one off. Prying, pulling, etc. didn't work and > we couldn't see any other snap rings holding things in. After much > headscratching and mild cussing, we just tossed the whole thing back > together. ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:42:38 EDT Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings This is one of those cases where a picture or two would be worth a thousand words. Anybody have pictures? Stock Man 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee In a message dated 9/11/2000 7:33:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, bbeyer99 > The easiest way to tell them apart is > that the internal is all smooth on the outside with the allen heads recessed > inside the retaining knob. The external have the allen heads inside cutouts > on the knob retainer. ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: oil filters Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 07:55:01 -0700 Ford filters are made to puralator type design specs for good reason, they are the best so Motorcraft or Puralator are good choices. Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > > Has any one heard of Motorcraft?????? what would be wrong with closes > > thing to ford auto zone sell all kinds ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: motor mounts Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:00:57 -0700 If you found a difference then you have found a hybred, they use the same block with the same bolt patterns and machining, they are completely interchangeable. There may have been some special blocks machined for the mustangs due to tight fitment etc. but I even doubt that. I know certain FE's had different heads for fitment purposes but the mounts were still the same AFAIK. Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > Hi all, got a question! What is the difference between the motor mounts of > a 429 and those of a 460 engine? I've been punnishing 385 series engines for > the past 30 yr's and never realized there was a difference. G.E.P. (calif.) ------------------------------ From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 05:05:45 -0700 Yeah you're right, pics would be nice. Unfortunately I can't supply them since I replaced my stock Ford internal locks with Warns several years ago. I hate to say it but the design of the factory internal locking mechanism wasn't one of Ford's "better ideas". "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets" ----- Original Message ----- From: <TBeeee To: <61-79-list Sent: Monday, September 11, 2000 4:42 AM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings > This is one of those cases where a picture or two would be worth a thousand > words. Anybody have pictures? > ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: Slipping 4WD AND Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Whe Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:24:08 -0700 Ok, number one, if the axle turns then the hub is not the problem, the diff is. If neither the other wheel nor the drive shaft turn when you turn the axle by what ever means then you have serious problems. On the hub, they can get burrs on them from abuse and even small pieces of dirt can prevent it from coming out and if it is worn it can tip sidways and bind so I would spray the heck out of it and rinse it out as well as possible with brake cleaner so you can see what you are doing then try to find the spot that is preventing you. If the hub is indeed bent then you have a serious problem which will require the removal of the hub itself.........can't remember the exact sequence right now but don't think it can be done without removing the bearing nuts. I removed the whole thing once but the bearings were so damaged that I could get a box wrench behind the rotor and get the bolts out that held the whole mess on to the yoke. In your case you may need a smoke wrench but I'd do all I could to get the slide part out first even if you have to use a grinder to ease the tight spots (carefully of course). As to tightening the wheel bearings, get your hub apart and then give us a ring and I will tell you what the book says which aligns with everything I have ever heard about tapered bearings......IOW, trust me, you don't leave them torqued!!! Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > problem because the universal joint in the axle was rotating at the same > rate as the wheel. > (with the six bolt holes in it) wouldn't budge. I was positive that all I > had to do was put two screws back in, and pull it out. I'm guessing that > the hub may be a little bent, and preventing it to slide out. Other ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: Tightening 79 F150 4x4 Front Wheel Bearings Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 08:36:23 -0700 You may have after market hubs on this. The after market hubs are all different from each other and from the factory hubs in the way all the parts fit together so would not match the book. The Warn hubs are all one piece and can be a little hard to get out if you .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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