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Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #234 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar ford-trucks.com with
the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Sat, 09 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 234 In This Issue: Low mount swing out western mirror My first CJ!!! Re: Pinging/knocking Re: My first CJ!!! Timing for 390 Subscription to forum at http://www.ford-trucks.com/cgi-b Trucks for sale 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Re: Timing for 390 Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Re: Locked up engine Reinforcing ribs on C6's Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's '68 F100 for sale Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JXS <bdijxs bridgetest.com>
Subject: Low mount swing out western mirror Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 16:03:44 -0700 Marty, What are we after here??? I might have a set....if it's what I think you're talking about. Please send me a message off list describing them.....I have a set on a 76 highboy that I'll be replacing with another set from the 79 year.... CJ -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Listar -- -- Type: application/ms-tnef ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:38:07 -0400 From: bill poudrier <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: My first CJ!!! Hi group, Today I bought my first Cobra Jet. A 1969 Talladega. It needs complete assembly. The only thing left bolted in is the rear end and springs so it could be moved. Any metal work was already done and so now has to lovengly assembled. It will most likely take 2 years to complete and quite a few $$$$, but what the heck. All the numbers match and when done should be something special. Just thought you might like to know. I know there is no truck content but I hauled it home with my F150... Bill ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: Pinging/knocking Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:32:23 -0700 OoooooooooK.......here's how it works...... Due to lots of things that would require a book to discuss the mechanical advance is usually capped off at about 28 to 32 degrees total, including the initial to be brought in via some kind of curve, generally around 3000 rpm or before. In a race car this is all you need because you set up the engine to work with that timing at it's maximum "Working" rpm which is generally obtained with WOT. In a truck or car on the highway you need more controls because it spends most of it's time at part throttle and actually nearly closed throttle which brings in a whole bunch of other factors. High load needs less advance for various reasons so if you don't have a vac on it to retard the spark when you step on it at 15 mph in high gear it will knock to beat the band. The vac will also allow a slighly different main jet or metering rod setting for best cruising economy and throttle response........what this all means is that if the engine is cammed and carbed to race then you don't need a vac but if not then you do.....The actual timing is really dependent on the cam, compression, tune and gearing so............ There are really too many variables to actually say what the problem with this or that engine is but typically this problem is due to extremely lean mixture on tip in and wrong timing. I had my bronco set to 10 with a partially working vac and it suddenly started knocking on the least little effort so I dug into it and found that I had inadvertenly retimed it with a totally stuck vac. I freed up the vac and retimed it to 10 and it was still too much so I backed if off to 8 and set the accellerator arm to max stroke and set the vac to drop out more easily (more spring pressure). It now runs on cheap regular with little knock except under extreme lugging conditions and gets about 11 mpg with a funky 600 Holley. Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > With the Mechanical advance - I had it set at 6 at idel - but after that it > had 25 - period - no matter accelerating, decelerating, etc. BUT - I > the circular file - I replaced the distributor with the stock FOMOCO > Runs fine, great even - except for even the slightest load. Why head up a > moderate hill at 55 to 60 and the engine knocks and pings so loud - ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 lni.net>
Subject: Re: My first CJ!!! Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 20:36:54 -0700 Yeah, just saw a suicide door lincoln (65/67) for sale........my favorite model, but no money :-( Not sure which year but it has a hump on the side so I don't think it's a 66 which is actually my all time fav.....:-) Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > Today I bought my first Cobra Jet. A 1969 Talladega. It needs > I know there is no truck content but I hauled it home with my F150... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 20:36:16 -0400 From: Joe <shoman p3.net>
Subject: Timing for 390 Group is this right for my 68 390 timing 10 degrees BTC???. Joe ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:31:33 -0400 From: admin ford-trucks.com
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FLOWMASTERS No Headers N/M" Posted by jowilker on 09/07/2000 14:49:04 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3653.html#3 "RE: 67 wiring" Posted by pinkston on 09/07/2000 15:06:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3605.html#13 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by pinkston on 09/07/2000 15:10:40 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#2 "RE: 61-66 pics" Posted by pinkston on 09/07/2000 15:18:08 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3646.html#2 "390 confirmation" Posted by proeliator on 09/07/2000 15:38:45 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#11 "RE: Truck block" Posted by dinosaurfan on 09/07/2000 16:00:14 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#12 "Upside down casting" Posted by StockMan on 09/07/2000 16:06:45 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#13 "72 F250 4x4 360" Posted by usmcdi on 09/07/2000 16:09:17 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#0 "RE: Upside down casting" Posted by proeliator on 09/07/2000 16:24:20 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#14 "RE: 67 wiring" Posted by 1977rangerxlt on 09/07/2000 17:52:14 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3605.html#14 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by lurch on 09/07/2000 17:59:52 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#3 "Driving quality" Posted by 69f100shortstepside on 09/07/2000 19:21:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#0 "RE: Gearing=RPM update" Posted by Charles-65F350 on 09/07/2000 19:39:07 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3652.html#3 "RE: Driving quality" Posted by jowilker on 09/07/2000 19:41:31 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#1 "Point - Counter- Point" Posted by StockMan on 09/07/2000 19:58:43 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#2 "Typical Oil Pressure" Posted by StockMan on 09/07/2000 20:03:43 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#1 "RE: 67 wiring" Posted by red68ranger on 09/07/2000 20:20:44 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3605.html#15 "Higher Pressure" Posted by Like M. Fords on 09/07/2000 21:05:53 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#2 "RE: Point - Counter- Point" Posted by Nathan on 09/07/2000 21:09:30 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#3 "RE: engine stalls when I let off the gas" Posted by puffc on 09/07/2000 21:14:06 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3651.html#2 "66 f100 tranny swap" Posted by harvey on 09/07/2000 21:22:54 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3656.html#0 "RE: 390 engine work question" Posted by mhyff250 on 09/07/2000 21:37:19 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3618.html#14 "RE: exhaust" Posted by jbhf250 on 09/07/2000 21:48:06 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3653.html#4 "RE: 66 f100 tranny swap" Posted by jowilker on 09/07/2000 21:50:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3656.html#1 "RE: Point - Counter- Point" Posted by jowilker on 09/07/2000 22:00:16 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#4 "RE: Body Side Molding" Posted by tod on 09/07/2000 22:01:44 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3636.html#4 "1970 Ranger with 351W & 302 Heads" Posted by knj1247 on 09/07/2000 22:05:28 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3657.html#0 "RE: Body Side Molding" Posted by jowilker on 09/07/2000 22:08:57 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3636.html#5 "RE: Body Side Molding" Posted by DBF on 09/07/2000 22:31:33 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3636.html#6 "RE: 390 engine work question" Posted by skip4274 on 09/07/2000 22:33:08 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3618.html#15 "RE: 1970 Ranger with 351W & 302 Heads" Posted by BigRebel on 09/07/2000 22:51:18 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3657.html#1 "RE: 390 engine work question" Posted by DBF on 09/07/2000 23:32:02 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3618.html#16 "RE:Headers, maybe" Posted by dinosaurfan on 09/08/2000 00:03:37 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3624.html#5 "RE: Distributor" Posted by shockrod on 09/08/2000 00:13:51 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3238.html#7 "help with dash pad..." Posted by fordman69 on 09/08/2000 00:56:36 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3658.html#0 "Gas Tank" Posted by okrobie on 09/08/2000 01:08:30 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#0 "RE: Help ! Oil Pump On FE" Posted by DBF on 09/08/2000 05:12:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3641.html#7 "Dash Removal" Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 07:01:51 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3658.html#1 "Timing specs are over rated" Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 07:26:13 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3238.html#8 "I guess we have to define "go wrong"" Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 07:33:58 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#1 "RE:Headers, maybe" Posted by deanwa on 09/08/2000 08:48:02 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3624.html#6 "Carb spacer plate" Posted by rick on 09/08/2000 09:06:42 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3660.html#0 "Painless? Maybe" Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 10:06:53 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3624.html#7 "Holley" Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 10:19:40 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3660.html#1 "RE: Upside down casting" Posted by ted75f250 on 09/08/2000 10:50:14 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#15 "RE: Upside down casting" Posted by lee on 09/08/2000 10:53:11 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#16 "Need Rear Bumper for 63 F-100 " Posted by fordmaniac on 09/08/2000 10:57:16 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3661.html#0 "RE: Typical Oil Pressure" Posted by usmcdi on 09/08/2000 11:00:31 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#3 "RE: Higher Pressure" Posted by usmcdi on 09/08/2000 11:02:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#4 "Parts is parts....." Posted by StockMan on 09/08/2000 11:10:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#5 "RE: I guess we have to define " Posted by robie on 09/08/2000 13:06:52 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#2 "RE: 67 wiring" Posted by pinkston on 09/08/2000 13:08:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3605.html#16 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by pinkston on 09/08/2000 13:18:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#4 "RE: I guess we have to define " Posted by jowilker on 09/08/2000 13:40:38 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#3 "RE: Horn probelm -- help!!" Posted by pinkston on 09/08/2000 13:41:43 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/2734.html#8 "RE: Need Rear Bumper for 63 F-100 " Posted by skip4274 on 09/08/2000 14:06:09 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3661.html#1 "RE: Gas tank differences" Posted by 73Custom on 09/08/2000 15:21:23 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#4 "RE: engine stalls when I let off the gas" Posted by oldford64 on 09/08/2000 15:33:31 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3651.html#3 "RE: Carb spacer plate" Posted by 73Custom on 09/08/2000 15:37:33 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3660.html#2 "RE: Carb spacer plate" Posted by jb85302 on 09/08/2000 15:47:56 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3660.html#3 "RE: Steering Conversion" Posted by stephenw on 09/08/2000 17:32:45 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/2364.html#7 "RE: aftermarket drag links" Posted by stephenw on 09/08/2000 17:39:09 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/2448.html#4 "oil pressure" Posted by toolmnmike on 09/08/2000 17:40:37 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#6 "RE: 66 f100 tranny swap" Posted by toolmnmike on 09/08/2000 17:48:25 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3656.html#2 "RE: Carb spacer plate" Posted by rick on 09/08/2000 17:56:45 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3660.html#4 "RE: Point - Counter- Point" Posted by Nathan on 09/08/2000 19:35:18 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#5 "RE: Point - Counter- Point" Posted by jowilker on 09/08/2000 19:48:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#6 "Fan clutch" Posted by dave186 on 09/08/2000 20:56:24 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3662.html#0 "Fan Clutch" Posted by Like M. Fords on 09/08/2000 21:45:28 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3662.html#1 "Head Bolts" Posted by Like M. Fords on 09/08/2000 22:09:25 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3654.html#7 "RE: Point - Counter- Point" Posted by chenders on 09/08/2000 22:24:55 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3655.html#7 "RE: Gas tank differences" Posted by okrobie on 09/09/2000 00:33:43 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#5 "RE: 67 wiring" Posted by hpguy on 09/09/2000 00:34:16 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3605.html#17 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by hpguy on 09/09/2000 00:37:16 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#5 "RE: Gas tank differences" Posted by elsmith on 09/09/2000 00:44:46 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#6 "RE: Gas tank differences" Posted by okrobie on 09/09/2000 00:59:22 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#7 "RE: Steering Conversion" Posted by sparky on 09/09/2000 01:26:23 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/2364.html#8 "Questions for guys with M's... headers and distributor problem" Posted by ummduh on 09/09/2000 02:12:29 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3663.html#0 "RE: Upside down casting" Posted by karljay on 09/09/2000 03:11:25 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#17 "RE: 4Wheel&Offroad Magazine" Posted by karljay on 09/09/2000 03:43:54 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3649.html#5 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by kpayne on 09/09/2000 09:10:46 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#6 "RE: 4Wheel&Offroad Magazine" Posted by RRL'78 on 09/09/2000 09:26:28 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3649.html#6 "RE: Where to find manual repair manual for '69 F250" Posted by Willie on 09/09/2000 09:30:41 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3650.html#7 "'73-'79 Dually????" Posted by jmcboots on 09/09/2000 09:41:48 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3664.html#0 "RE: Dash Removal" Posted by RRL'78 on 09/09/2000 10:14:13 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3658.html#2 "RE: 66 f100 tranny swap" Posted by dinosaurfan on 09/09/2000 11:06:39 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3656.html#3 "RE: Help ! Oil Pump On FE" Posted by danpaull on 09/09/2000 11:11:06 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3641.html#8 "RE: Help ! Oil Pump On FE" Posted by danpaull on 09/09/2000 11:12:30 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3641.html#9 "RE: Body Side Molding" Posted by harvey on 09/09/2000 11:31:42 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3636.html#7 "RE: '73-'79 Dually????" Posted by danpaull on 09/09/2000 11:33:44 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3664.html#1 "RE: Gas tank differences" Posted by okrobie on 09/09/2000 11:41:02 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3659.html#8 "RE: Upside down casting" Posted by proeliator on 09/09/2000 13:25:18 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3645.html#18 "RE: Body Side Molding" Posted by jowilker on 09/09/2000 14:08:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3636.html#8 "Electric fans?" Posted by mhyff250 on 09/09/2000 16:01:51 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3665.html#0 "New Dash Boards" Posted by billcat on 09/09/2000 16:22:27 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3666.html#0 "RE: New Dash Boards" Posted by JMR on 09/09/2000 17:01:11 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3666.html#1 "Help!" Posted by elsmith on 09/09/2000 17:14:46 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3667.html#0 "RE: Questions for guys with M's... headers and distributor problem" Posted by ummduh on 09/09/2000 17:40:16 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3663.html#1 "Cab Mount Removal Problem" Posted by HiMe on 09/09/2000 17:49:03 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3668.html#0 "RE: Electric fans?" Posted by jowilker on 09/09/2000 18:34:38 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3665.html#1 "RE: engine stalls when I let off the gas" Posted by puffc on 09/09/2000 19:09:00 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3651.html#4 "RE: Fan Clutch" Posted by dave186 on 09/09/2000 19:58:10 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3662.html#2 "RE: Electric fans?" Posted by dave186 on 09/09/2000 20:09:44 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3665.html#2 "RE: Questions for guys with M's... headers and distributor problem" Posted by skip4274 on 09/09/2000 20:27:59 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/61_79/3663.html#2 Messages posted in Early Broncos (1966-1977) =========================================================== "RE: A few Bronco Questions" Posted by ml_humphrey on 09/08/2000 16:09:33 http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/earlybronco/15.html#5 ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Trucks for sale Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 21:44:13 -0400 today i saw what i think was about a 64 or so f100 out side of TOLEDO OHIO on rt 579 east of rt 51 ALSO saw what was possibly about a 72 or so in a wrecking yard in DETROIT MICH. right next to detroit lime company near the ford river rouge plant if any one is interested this one looked to be in pretty good shape except for maybe a missing engine and some other small things but the main parts all seemed to either be attached or setting on it gordon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:40:43 -0700 Subject: What to do in central California From: Mark R Heims <markheims juno.com>
Hey Guys and Gals, This is Montana Mark, long time lurker, sometimes poster. I'm in central California till the end of the month and am looking for some car/truck shows and other fun things to do while I'm here. I'm at Vandenberg Air Force Base just south of Santa Maria. If anyone lives near here and would like to get together, let me know. Last year when I was in Colorado, I went and helped CJ work on a couple of trucks and had a blast. Montana Mark, currently in California. 1978 F150 4x4, The Great Pumpkin http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.initco.net/~mheims/index.html ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. ------------------------------ From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 01:24:43 -0400 With the recent passing of my Father, I have been reminincing. He owned a 76 F250 4X4 with a 360. The motor died due to hard abuse working in the OHIO oil field business and farm use. As a Christmas Gift in 1981, before I joined the Navy, I purchased a used 390 and sent it to a machine shop to have all machine work performed (bore .030, turn crank, resize rods, boil block, etc:) After putting the motor in, getting it running blah blah bla, it would over heat after being driven for awhile. I know, this is subjective here. We have a farm 30 miles from town, would over heat before dad\mom got to town and before they got home. Me, heh, I'm the master mechanic, at least in my mind, I built this motor, I'll figure it out, or so I told myself. :) I replaced the thermostat (180), still would overheat, Pulled the thermostat, still would over heat, checked timing and replaced water pump, still would over heat, replaced all belts and hoses, still would over heat. Now I'm thinking, bad guage, because you know how them OLDER people are, just relying on a OEM Temp guage. :) Sure as heck, Dad pulled in the Standard Oil garage that I worked at, and the new Autometer guage I installed read 235 degrees. I'm thinking, I must have put the head gaskets on backwards. Pulled the heads, didnt see anything abnormal. HMMMMM, I KNOW the problem now, that dogone radiater is just too small for this HOT new 390 that I built. :) I go get a 4 core radiator out of a late 70's P\U from a wrecking yard. Some co-workers and I make it fit, shroud and all. We are real proud of ourselves!! Mom and dad drive home, 3 hours later, mom call's, the "motor overheated and blew up". She said they were about 5 miles from home, the truck started to overheat, and dad, instead of pulling over to let it cool as they usually did, said "the h*** with it", banged 3rd and pushed the pedal to the floor. Motor locked up about a half mile later. I was eighteen then and new everything, My father probably thought that I didn't know what I was doing and was just over it. I thought "give me some time, I'll figure it out". Well, he paid somebody to put a used motor in that old truck. Hurts me to this day. We never talked about it again after that. Well, I own that old truck now. Now I'm one of them OLDER people, as I stared at "RED" tonight, I asked WHY? It didnt answer....Sorry for the rambling, who else could I tell this story to but my other family... FTE? PS has anyone ever heard of a truck coming from the factory without emergency brakes? This truck was bought new, I bring it to Virginia and fail the State inspection. The knock-out's for the emegency brake cable was not even punched out in the rear backing plates. The only thing in the truck was the cable going from the emergency brake pedal to aft of the cab, nothing else, including nothing for the emegency brake under the brake drum, HONEST. (they claimed somebody must have removed them) Rich ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Timing for 390 Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 00:44:02 -0500 I have mine at 12, but 10 is within the correct range. Doesn't hurt to play around with it a little either. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe To: ford trucklist61-79 Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2000 7:36 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Timing for 390 Group is this right for my 68 390 timing 10 degrees BTC???. Joe ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 02:55:44 -0400 I replaced the thermostat (180), still would overheat, > Pulled the thermostat, still would over heat, checked timing and replaced > water pump, still would over heat, replaced all belts and hoses, still would > over heat. > Rich > > ============================================================= hi rich recently we went thru this same thing with a friends grandpa,s f 250 turned out it was possibly 2 things maybe 1- he had had a new thermostat stuck in it and it was two small it just fell down into the intake manifold was all the hole was too big for it but it was what the books all called for we ended up using one for a pre 64 390 2- we allready had a new radiator setting there so we were looking inside of it and the tubes for the cooling were much smaller in the old one than the new one SO now she doesnt over heat a bit even it possibly could have been these things or maybe even the timing was not quite right on it or was running way to lean in the carb also ive seen that happen too with them SORRY about your DAD passing away ive had similar stories with my own father before he passed away good luck to bad you dont have that old engine still so you could tear it dwn to find out why it was doing this see ya gordon ------------------------------ From: "rich" <richth exis.net>
Subject: Re: 19 YEAR OLD OVER HEATING QUESTION Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 04:20:59 -0400 Thank you Mr. Boling, wish I had them both... > SORRY about your DAD passing away ive had similar stories with my own father > before he passed away > good luck to bad you dont have that old engine still so you could tear it > dwn to find out why it was doing this > see ya > gordon Rich ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 08:57:58 -0400 From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Locked up engine While we're talking about frozen rusted parts, I'll offer up a suggestion that I put to use about a two months ago when I pulled the front suspension off a junkyard Econoline. Remember that this is PA, so even "easy" bolts are usually frozen with rust. I have a 12" breaker bar in my toolbox, and this is usually enough to free most bolts in the junkyard. I was really struggling with some wheel lug nuts, though, when I found a piece of 4' steel tubing in the back of the van. I slipped this over the handle of my wrench, and used it for increased leverage. Wow, the difference is amazing when you have a 4' handle. As long as you can fit it in the space provided, it's better to have a longer handle, and I didn't realize how much better until I actually tried it myself. -don Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA FCA Keystone Chapter Editor/Internet Director 61 Futura, 66 Club Wagon and classic scooters ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Reinforcing ribs on C6's Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 11:47:09 -0500 Last week someone said something about 460 C6's having strengthening ribs. Just how important are these, and what would happen if I put a standard C6 without the ribs behind my 460? The truck will see quite a bit of heavy towing duty, fyi. Thanks, Jason ------------------------------ From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 13:40:23 EDT Subject: Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's I wouldnt worry about em too much. I ran a 400 tranny behind my 460 for awhile after the original one blew up. It did go bad, but it was due to the horrible stresses driving "Darrell" style, not the style of the case. Also my dads 88 E-350 with a 460 has a tranny without the ribs. I assume somewhere along the line ford figured they really had gone overkill on the reinforced tranny. And that tranny has 140k and still shifts as crisp as the day we got it. Darrell & Tweety ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 17:04:08 -0500 From: "Howard Bottles" <Howard.Bottles austin.ppdi.com>
Subject: '68 F100 for sale Just an FYI for anyone looking for a parts truck, I found a '68 F100 Custom Cab supposed 390/4bbl/C6?FMX? blue/white. Located near Austin, Tx. Runs, tranny weak, engine not so hot, manual steering and brakes, underdash AC, may be aftermarket, fixer upper or part out. If interested (John Strauss I know you are out there...) let me know. Howardb ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 18:35:38 -0400 From: bill poudrier <poudrier ma.ultranet.com>
Subject: Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's I have a number of these transmissions and it is about 50/50 as to the ones that have them to the ones that do not. One I know is from a 70 T-Bird 429 and it really dosen't have heavy ribbing. I do not think it matters too much. At 11:47 AM 9/10/00 -0500, you wrote: > >Last week someone said something about 460 C6's having strengthening ribs. Just how important are these, and what would happen if I put a standard C6 without the ribs behind my 460? The truck will see quite a bit of heavy towing ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Reinforcing ribs on C6's Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2000 19:47:19 -0400 > Just how important are these, and what would happen if I put a standard C6 > without the ribs behind my 460? The truck will see quite a bit of heavy towing > > ============================================================= WELL ive kept quiet about this for long enough i guess i have a good friend .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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