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Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 21:57:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Ford Truck Enthusiasts List Server <listar To: 61-79-list digest users <listar Reply-to: 61-79-list Subject: 61-79-list Digest V2000 #226 Precedence: list ========================================================== Ford Truck Enthusiasts 1961-1979 Truck Mailing List Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com To unsubscribe, send email to: listar the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list" in the subject of the message. ========================================================== ------------------------------------ 61-79-list Digest Mon, 04 Sep 2000 Volume: 2000 Issue: 226 In This Issue: Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other stuff Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other stuff Re: Bench Seat Re: Vacuum controls My Carb Ticks!!! No kidding! (thanks for the bench seat Re: New 390 Pix Re: engine with no cam shaft Re: Omaha Show? Re: Looking for help - diesel fuel in a gas motor Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Re: [Fwd: team logo cats] Re: Vacuum controls Re: Vacuum controls Omaha meet '74 F250 Re: [Fwd: team logo cats] Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Rust issues (Was: Headlight Adjustment Nuts) OK, I have my choices for headers narrowed down to 2... Well, I own it! Re: Vacuum controls Clutches... Re: Omaha meet ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam Subject: Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other stuff Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 23:48:28 -0400 I had ordered a set of Flow-Tech headers thru Summit Racing. They were for my 94 F-150 with a 302 in it(2-wheel drive) they were the shorty style that were supposed to hook right up to the factory Y-pipe. Got news for you ---they didn't even come close. I had to send them back & they sent my money back. Just my 2 cents worth. -----Original Message----- From: GMontgo930 To: 61-79-list Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:25 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other stuff >My 2¢ worth on the topic of Flowtech Headers. - You get what you pay for. >I've got a set on my '79 Bronco (4wd) and I'm not real impressed with them. >The fit was/is ok, but the quality is not what I was expecting. They had >holes in the welds (down by teh collectors) that I didnt find till after the >exhaust was installed. I know it's a 4wd, but the drivers side literally >follows teh side of the block on down. It mates in a real strange way with >the rest of the system by literally looping under teh front drive shaft >before snaking plast the xfer case. > >I dont want to say they are junk, but take a close look before you install >em. Guess that can be said about all parts really. I was so thrilled, I didnt >examine them real close as I installed them. BTW, it wa on a '79 Bronco 4WD >with a 400 & C6. > >George M in Fl. > >In a message dated 9/4/2000 12:31:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >burgess4 > ><< Hi Garret, > > JC Whitney lists a FLOW TECH header 65-76 352-428 2wd 97.95 > > dPrasse > >> >============================================================= >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 >Please remove this footer when replying. > ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other stuff Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 00:59:08 -0400 thats the nice thing about SUMITT they will refund your money no questions asked really ive delt with them for years and never had any problems with them gordon ================ > I had ordered a set of Flow-Tech headers thru Summit Racing. They were for > my 94 F-150 with a 302 in it(2-wheel drive) they were the shorty style > that were supposed to hook right up to the factory Y-pipe. Got news for > you ---they didn't even come close. I had to send them back & they sent my > money back. Just my 2 cents worth. > -----Original Message----- > From: GMontgo930 > To: 61-79-list > Date: Monday, September 04, 2000 10:25 PM > Subject: [61-79-list] Re: headers for my 66 with a 390...and some other > stuff > > > >My 2¢ worth on the topic of Flowtech Headers. - You get what you pay for. > >I've got a set on my '79 Bronco (4wd) and I'm not real impressed with > them. > >The fit was/is ok, but the quality is not what I was expecting. They had > >holes in the welds (down by teh collectors) that I didnt find till after > the > >exhaust was installed. I know it's a 4wd, but the drivers side literally > >follows teh side of the block on down. It mates in a real strange way with > >the rest of the system by literally looping under teh front drive shaft > >before snaking plast the xfer case. > > > >I dont want to say they are junk, but take a close look before you install > >em. Guess that can be said about all parts really. I was so thrilled, I > didnt > >examine them real close as I installed them. BTW, it wa on a '79 Bronco 4WD > >with a 400 & C6. > > > >George M in Fl. > > > >In a message dated 9/4/2000 12:31:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > >burgess4 > > > ><< Hi Garret, > > > > JC Whitney lists a FLOW TECH header 65-76 352-428 2wd 97.95 > > > > dPrasse > > >> > >============================================================= > >To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > >Please remove this footer when replying. > > > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. > > ------------------------------ From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 Subject: Re: Bench Seat Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 01:05:44 -0400 I must assume that Gordon used the new tracks in > his old truck. Another dealer told me that the 97-up seats will work the > same also by changing the tracks, but I have not tried this yet. Dan Herrmann ============================================================= YEP used the new tracks with the new seats i figured why use the old tracks if the seat was wore out they would be next to go then and i hate messing with a seat that wont adjust gordon ------------------------------ From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan Subject: Re: Vacuum controls Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 03:54:44 -0700 > > > Does anyone know what the vacuum fittings on the thermostat > housing and the manifold do, what temp are they set to, and > the best way to incorporate them in the vacuum advance so > that it doesn't advance when the engine is cold, I replaced > the stock carb w/an edlebrock and broke a fitting that the > local ford doesn't know what is/does. > thanks > curt > What size/year motor? Tom H ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:44:59 -0400 From: Tony Marino <redneck Subject: My Carb Ticks!!! No kidding! (thanks for the bench seat I love these new problems! I fired up the 300 again in my winter truck yesterday- Everything is hooked up and running sweet-- but I have this little problem. The 300 is my offy 4V conversion, with dual exhaust, blah blah blah-- it's running the same 600cfm carter carb that I took off of it about a year ago. I didn't run the carb on anything else since I took it off, nor did I open it up or rebuilt it. So I fire up this motor, and it's all happy with nice crisp response, but it TICKS REALLY LOUD!!!!! and believe it or not, it's the carb that is ticking!!! I've never heard of this before, so I'm hoping somebody else has-- The place it feels like it's ticking the most is on top right where there are two little dime sized plates held down with torque head screws between the primaries and secondary openings. those little metal caps you can feel tappin' away- and it's very loud- like a sticky lifter or so- Any Ideas on this one? Tony Marino redneck ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:55:44 GMT Subject: Re: New 390 Pix >It was surprisingly stock, with just a cam, a set of >headers, a set of 427 or 428 heads (can't remember which) and matching >intake. That's stock ? Yikes, guess I haven't modified my vehciles at all then. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:57:39 GMT Subject: Re: engine with no cam shaft >You are right for the distributor, but the oil pump would have to be >mechanical with no cam or something to turn it. > They noted a 4.6L Ford was used for testing, this is probably because it uses both the DIS ignition system (crank triggered) and an oil pump that is driven by the crank as well, bolts onto the front of the motor behind the timing chains. Its pretty cool to pull the alternator and be able to reach your hand through the front of the motor and touch the back of it without pulling any other parts :) Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 13:59:05 GMT Subject: Re: Omaha Show? >Well Gang, I'm on line from home, happily retired now and ready to spread my wings like Azie :-) I have a truck related question for the gang.......Michelle mentioned a show in Omaha around September last year......anyone know when it is and what it is all about? > Interesting ... if anyone hears anymore about it, lemme know, I'd like to visit HP Motorsports out there anyway a truck show would be a big bonus for that sort of trip (only a few hours from here) ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:03:15 GMT Subject: Re: Looking for help - diesel fuel in a gas motor >My friend is having big problems with his truck (390FE). The oil light is >coming on at idle and there is loud ticking like valve noise. That would be big problems for sure ... have you determined if it is valve noise or not ? My truck was doing a similar thing, but go fig, it wasn't vavletrain as it only did it in park if I remember right ... been a while since I played with the old 360 and can't tell if the 390's doin it or not, don't think so though ... > The worst >thing is that the motor turns over fine when it is cold, but if it is warm >the starter can barely crank it over. After it cools down it will crank >easily again. > >Is it possible that the motor is binding up due to the lack of lubrication >when hot? > Possible, but this is a classic symptom of timing being too far advanced. >Anyways, he says this all started when he mistakenly put diesel fuel in >the truck. After discovering the mistake he took it to a guy who siphoned >out the diesel and changed the oil. He may have done some other things, >but that is all he told me. > I wouldn't have expected nearly this much bad stuff to happen unless the mechanic used some thin oil or something that the motor wasn't used to (like 5w30 on a motor that's run straight 30w for years, or a high detergent oil), even then I wouldn't expect things to get quite that bad ... I'd check the plugs and such too as i would expect them to get fouled ... and maybe another oil change to be sure the oil is correct... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:55:26 -0500 Subject: Re: valve clatter From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > At 10:31 AM 8/31/00 -0700, you wrote: > Winter grade vs. summer grade gasolines have some differences which have to > do with the RVP (Reid Vapor Pressure). > They sell a fuel in the winter or cooler months that has many more vapors > (higher RVP)to help the fuel burn better to help offset the cooler temps. > In the summer or warmer months they sell a fuel that has a lower RVP > because the warmer temps make up for the lower RVP. Sorry for the lag time. Love those long weekends. Thanks for this information. It makes sense. > snip< > I have seen batches of product come into the Ashland terminal from an Exxon > bulk plant in Atlanta via pipeline(and practically every other major > supplier) and sold as unbranded and branded product depending on who was > buying it (example Shell) - all through an Ashland terminal. The exact > same product was being shipped across town that same afternoon to Exxon and > sold as Exxon branded product - Go figure. The only differences were the > additives and detergents put into gasolines. Our 87 products had a lower > percentage of additive than 89 and premium. I have heard this tale before from other terminal workers. > snip, again< > If it makes you feel any better, I have also had to go up this summer on my > '95 Crown Vic from 87 to 89 octane due to some pinging. My V-10 Excursion > pings ever so slightly on 89 when under load which I know is sometimes > normal for any engine ......I will switch back this fall to 87 in it to see > how they both run. Somehow, knowing someone has a V10 Excursion and I don't doesn't make me feel any better... ;-) But since it's you, Stu, I can be happy again. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 09:59:00 -0500 Subject: Re: Vacuum controls From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > This is a vacuum switch activated by higher engine coolant temperatures. When > the engine is running hotter (around 235 degrees), this switch allows > manifold vacuum to the advance port on the distributor even at idle. I am > told this will cool down a hot running engine in heavy traffic. I'm not disagreeing with you, Rollie, but this is the first time I have ever heard of this. I was under the impression that the vacuum switch retarded the ignition timing during warm up to reduce emissions. ????? -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 10:12:33 -0500 Subject: Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > I was upgrading to Hella Halogen last night and was replacing the > adjusting nut and screw. The new nuts I have just kinda slop into the hole > loosely. Will it expand enough when I put the new bolt in to hold it in > place, or am I screwed. ( Bad pun intended. ) : ) Ted, I read through my back log and didn't see a reply to your question. I am assuming that the nuts you refer to are the plastic ones that snap in the square hole from the backside of the radiator support. Even if they snap in from the front like a license plate nut, the same holds true. They do indeed tighten up when you put the screw through them. Typically, though, they bear a minimum amount of weight as the holder rests against the radiator support also. Even if they don't get tight in the hole, they should perform their function. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:55:15 EDT Subject: Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts I agree that these should expand as the bolt is inserted, Is it not also correct that the tensioner spring helps keep the adjusting bolts from potentially wobbling around anyway? Thom B. 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee In a message dated Tue, 5 Sep 2000 11:14:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, "John LaGrone" <jlagrone << > Typically, though, they bear a minimum amount of weight as the holder rests against the radiator support also. Even if they don't get tight in the hole, they should perform their function. >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 11:27:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > I agree that these should expand as the bolt is inserted, Is it not also > correct that the tensioner spring helps keep the adjusting bolts from > potentially wobbling around anyway? You are right about the spring doing most of the work. The screws change the tilt of the head light pan (that thing's got a name, but I'll be dipped if I can think of it right now). They sometimes have pressure on them, but it should be minimal. They usually fail due to age related deterioration, not stress fatigue. In many cars of the 50s and 60s they were made of metal and never had to be replaced, at least not down here in Texas (no winter salt). -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:14:08 EDT Subject: Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Let me tell you how us "northerners" envy you southern "boys the way you can get a bumper bolt off (or any other bolt for that matter) and actually re-use 'em! Thom 67 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee In a message dated Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:29:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "John LaGrone" <jlagrone << In many cars of the 50s and 60s they were made of metal and never had to be replaced, at least not down here in Texas (no winter salt). >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 12:36:15 -0700 From: dave Prasse <burgess4 Subject: Re: [Fwd: team logo cats] Here is the answer I got from my Packer lovin Mom ... Hi Dave, I tried to reply to this question, but was rejected because my email address is not on the subscriber list. Guess you'll have to answer him for me. The Packers played in the Jan. 15,1967 Super Bowl I (1966 season) and in the Jan. 14, 1968 Super Bowl (1967 season). Of course, they won them both!! - Hope that helps you out ... dave "daBears" Prasse > Ya'll, i'm a huge cheesehead. I'm planning a new car. does anyone know > if the packers went to the superbowl in 67, 68, or 69? > > -- > Andrew Rolfsen > 1971 AMC Javelin SST > 1968 Mercury Cougar > 1966 Plymouth Fury III > > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. ------------------------------ From: SevnD2 Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 14:05:48 EDT Subject: Re: Vacuum controls In a message dated 09/05/2000 11:03:51 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlagrone << I was under the impression that the vacuum switch retarded the ignition timing during warm up to reduce emissions. >> That must be on some California models. I am going with what would be nationwide specs except California. Also, the other type of setup I have seen will advance the timing at a cold start below 128 degrees. This would apply to 1978 or newer cars and trucks. There are sure to be many different coolant temperature PVS's out there. I only know of these for fords built in the 1970's without California emissions. Any Californian's out there want to add to this? Rollie H. Hunt ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 13:34:19 -0500 Subject: Re: Vacuum controls From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > Also, the other type of setup I have seen > will advance the timing at a cold start below 128 degrees. Rollie, A typo? Duh, you mean coolant temperature and not air temperature. Stupidity strikes somewhere every 5.7 seconds. Next time, I'm getting out of the way. Don't tell the feds, but on my 79s I have bypassed these vacuum controls. There are still lots and lots of hoses connected to them, but they all go back to themselves. To the casual observer, everything looks OK. Let's see now, how can a vacuum control advance the timing? Why would you want to? If you are hooked up straight through you are getting maximum vacuum. You can't make more without a pump. Sign me confuse-ed. Dang, I didn't move after all..... -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:52:21 GMT Subject: Re: Vacuum controls >Let's see now, how can a vacuum control advance the timing? Why would you >want to? If you are hooked up straight through you are getting maximum >vacuum. Actually John, the way I've always heard it is that one port is manifold vaccuum, the ohter is "ported" or "timed" or "delayed". When you're on manifold there's vaccuum at idle, when you're on ported, there's not,it only comes on after the throttle plates have been cracked open a bit ... the switch is to help the vehicle warm up and run cleaner, at least that's my understanding of it ... switching between the vaccuums you can tell a difference if the vehicle is designed for one or the other ... also hooking up a vaccuum gauge will tell you right away which one you're using at any given time ... so with a temp gauge that has numbers and a vaccuum gauge hooked to the dist. vaccuum hose you can tell when it switches too ... Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ From: "wish" <wish Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:59:12 GMT Subject: Omaha meet Gary, et al. Not sure if this is the exact one, but found on the Hemmings site that the meet was the Great Plains F100 Nationals ... and it was Sat. (I was in NE on Sat. too!) Des Moines shows "Iowa Crossroads Classic Car & Truck Show" whatever that is, its on the 23rd ... Benton IL also has a truck show, but don't really know where Benton is ... its also on the 30th which I can guarantee I'll be spending at the Marshalltown Go-Kart track runnin my Mustang to see if I can get to the 82 sec mark for 2 laps. Just my $.02 wish 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L 73ish 1/2ton 4x4 6.4L http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish Ford Truck Enthusiasts http://www.ford-trucks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 15:13:54 -0500 Subject: Re: Vacuum controls From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone > Actually John, the way I've always heard it is that one port is manifold vaccuum, > the ohter is "ported" or "timed" or "delayed". > > When you're on manifold there's vaccuum at idle, when you're on ported, there's > not,it only comes on after the throttle plates have been cracked open a bit > ... the switch is to help the vehicle warm up and run cleaner, at least that's > my understanding of it ... switching between the vaccuums you can tell a difference > if the vehicle is designed for one or the other ... I'll buy that. OK, it is a matter of semantics. If you switch from ported to manifold you would be "advancing" the timing. -- John jlagrone 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 16:21:34 -0500 From: "Howard Bottles" <Howard.Bottles Subject: '74 F250 Here is a link to some before and after pix of my '74 F-250. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=257053&a=8557896 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 17:46:55 -0700 From: Negative Image <negativeimage Subject: Re: [Fwd: team logo cats] whoop, da cat's going green and yellow. dave Prasse wrote: > Here is the answer I got from my Packer lovin Mom ... > > Hi Dave, > I tried to reply to this question, but was rejected because my email > address > is not on the subscriber list. Guess you'll have to answer him for me. > The > Packers played in the Jan. 15,1967 Super Bowl I (1966 season) and in > the > Jan. 14, 1968 Super Bowl (1967 season). Of course, they won them both!! > - > Hope that helps you out ... > > dave "daBears" Prasse > > > Ya'll, i'm a huge cheesehead. I'm planning a new car. does anyone know > > if the packers went to the superbowl in 67, 68, or 69? > > > > -- > > Andrew Rolfsen > > 1971 AMC Javelin SST > > 1968 Mercury Cougar > > 1966 Plymouth Fury III > > > > ============================================================= > > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > > Please remove this footer when replying. > ============================================================= > To unsubscribe: www.ford-trucks.com/mailinglist.html#item3 > Please remove this footer when replying. -- Andrew Rolfsen 1971 AMC Javelin SST 1968 Mercury Cougar 1966 Plymouth Fury III ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson Subject: Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 18:09:15 -0500 Yeah no kidding! (I'm in Minnesota, the heart of the rust belt) ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ----- Original Message ----- From: TBeeee To: 61-79-list Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 12:14 PM Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Headlight Adjustment Nuts Let me tell you how us "northerners" envy you southern "boys the way you can get a bumper bolt off (or any other bolt for that matter) and actually re-use 'em! Thom 67 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee In a message dated Tue, 5 Sep 2000 12:29:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, "John LaGrone" <jlagrone << In many cars of the 50s and 60s they were made of metal and never had to be replaced, at least not down here in Texas (no winter salt). >> ------------------------------ From: TBeeee Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 19:41:24 EDT Subject: Rust issues (Was: Headlight Adjustment Nuts) Ever hear of the Salt City?? That's where I'm from and I have the rusty frames to prove it! Thom 1967 F-Series Registry http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee > Yeah no kidding! (I'm in Minnesota, the heart of the rust belt) > ------------------------------ From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson Subject: OK, I have my choices for headers narrowed down to 2... Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:02:31 -0500 Both are full length: Hooker's for $170, or Heddman's for $140 I'm leaning towards the Heddman's and will probably order them from Summit Racing within a few days. ---Garrett www.1966ford.com ------------------------------ From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick Subject: Well, I own it! Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 20:25:07 -0500 Yesterday I wrote the list and said that I might be trading for another truck. Tonight, it's mine. It's a '78 F150 Ranger Lariat Supercab with a four barrel 460, C6, dual gas tanks, a propane conversion, and it's set up for hauling a trailer (electric trailer brake controller). I traded a $200 motorcycle for it, and I have to throw in another $50. Not bad, huh?? Anyway, it's got a lot of small stuff that needs repaired, so it'll keep me busy for awhile. I need some help with the vin numbers, though. My Chilton's is useless. The truck was made in Canada in March of 1978. X15JKBG68763 is the vin number 139" wheelbase 8S is the color X150 is the body style KBM is the body G = tranny 13A = axle 6050 max gvwr DSO 75 Thanks, Jason Kendrick ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: Vacuum controls Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:11:27 -0700 Not sure where this thread started or what the real question is but the Vacuum actually does advance the timing so with manifold vacuum hooked up you get maximum timing advance at idle and cruise. Any time the throttle is cracked or opened by even a tiny amount you lose vacuum and the ignition is retarded by some calibrated amount. Touring engines and off road, low speed, high torque engines absolutely need a vacuum advance mechanism to run efficiently. Racing engines do not because they are tuned to run best at WOT. Ported vs Manifold is a matter of total engine design including the cam and intake. On many older setups Manifold works best but on some with emissions carbs and cams the ported may actually work best. The need is related to the fuel mixture at various throttle settings etc....Basically, leaner means more advance. Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) > Let's see now, how can a vacuum control advance the timing? Why would you > want to? If you are hooked up straight through you are getting maximum > vacuum. ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Clutches... Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:45:00 -0700 Well, I was right in my analysis. The springs were out of the disk and lying in the flywheel acting sort of like a sprague clutch preventing it from releasing all the way. All fixed now and new lessons learned :-) If anyone thinks certain other brands are easier to work on or more interchangeable than Fords he hasn't been around much :-( This un-named vehicle was a real pain and my other friend's brand x alternator pully was not correct even though the guy looked it up in the book. I can see different lengths of serpentine belt for different applications, that's almost impossible to get around, but different widths???? Wonder how many widths Ford uses? Maybe it's not so much of a brand thing as a Car/Truck thing? Seems like my trucks are so much easier to work on than any of my cars have been..... Michigan Pot Hole Jumping, 78 Bronco Loving, Gary :-) ------------------------------ From: "Gary" <gpeters3 Subject: Re: Omaha meet Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2000 22:51:17 -0700 Thanks, It looks like my plate is pretty full this year so I will do some scouting for next year and try to take in a few special events. I have to wait 2 months to get my first retirement check so have to watch what I spend for now. Having a great time doing what I want to do now and every night I .... To access the rest of this feature you must be a logged in Registered User Of Ford Truck Enthusiasts
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