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61-79-list Digest Thu, 31 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 221

In This Issue:
Re: 72  long bed frame & bed 4 sale..oops!
Re: 72  long bed frame & bed 4 sale
question from a true novice
Re: valve clatter
F.S:'79 F-150 S/C 4x4 (2 axle trailer or Ag tractor trade
FW: Re: valve clatter
Re: valve clatter
Re: valve clatter
70  long bed frame & bed 4 sale
Re: THE FILLY'S STILL HERE!
parts trucks
engine with no cam shaft
Lower CR
Re: engine with no cam shaft
Valve stem seals
Re: wheel ID
Re: wheel ID
1967 F-Series Registry
Re: it's andrew, you all have to check this
Re: it's andrew, you all have to check this out... seriou
Gary's back
Re: THE FILLY'S STILL HERE!
Re: wheel ID
460 Headers
wheel ID
Re: wheel ID
Re: 460 Headers

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" <gpeters3 visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 72  long bed frame & bed 4 sale..oops!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:11:18 -0400

Sorry, the year was in the subject line :-(  Don't you just hate getting
old.....


Michigan Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary

> I still have an F-100 long bed frame sitting at my shop. The
> bed is in OKay
> shape, and still attached. Not much else on the frame.

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 11:49:43 -0500
Subject: valve clatter
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

Not only has gasoline gotten more expensive, it also has lost some quality.
Now I know Henry is old and probably has some carbon deposits, but... I just
filled up with mid grade Diamond Shamrock. Guess what? No more valve clatter
when I leave a stop sign. I guess I'll continue to spring for the extra $3
per fill up. ($42 vs. $39) BTW, I put mid grade Chevron in SWMBOs Towncar
and that cured the hesitation problem it had.

Financing the Arab world from deep in the heart of Texas...

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
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Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Ken Schneider" <fordemail sunsetcoast.com>
Subject: Re: 72  long bed frame & bed 4 sale
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:02:20 -0400

Any Title to match the frame #'s?


Ken Schneider
SW Michigan
68 F100 Ranger 360/C6/3.25


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From: Rizard209 aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:13:17 EDT
Subject: question from a true novice

i have a 1970 f100 wit a 4.9L (300ci) engine. i have pretty good acceleration
but on the freeway i max out at 80mph... then my engine overheats like
crazy.. now i know with my size engine i should be able to go faster then
this.. well a friend of mine said i might have low gear ratio... would he be
talking about the differential, the transmission or what? I know the guy
before me tweaked it, but how, im not sure... any insight on this matter
would be greatly appreciated....much thanks to you many wise ones

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 10:31:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: Eric Finn <ecfinn yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: valve clatter

John,

I hate the summer only 'reformulated' gas that we've got here in SE PA.
My '95 Mustang GT started acting up something fierce (bad valve clatter)
right after I filled up with my first tank after June 1st.  Coincidence?
I don't think so.  I've got to use Premium to overcome it though so
consider yourself lucky that you only have to go up one grade.  Why can't
they just make good gas and leave well enough alone.  Sigh...

Later,

Eric Finn
'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in progress)
'95 Mustang GT "Beauty" (daily driver)

--- John LaGrone <jlagrone ford-trucks.com> wrote:
> Not only has gasoline gotten more expensive, it also has lost some
> quality.
> Now I know Henry is old and probably has some carbon deposits, but... I
> just
> filled up with mid grade Diamond Shamrock. Guess what? No more valve
> clatter
> when I leave a stop sign. I guess I'll continue to spring for the extra
> $3
> per fill up. ($42 vs. $39) BTW, I put mid grade Chevron in SWMBOs
> Towncar
> and that cured the hesitation problem it had.
>
> Financing the Arab world from deep in the heart of Texas...


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Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 13:34:00 -0400
From: frenz.6 osu.edu (Dale Frenz)
Subject: F.S:'79 F-150 S/C 4x4 (2 axle trailer or Ag tractor trade

I forgot to mention that I'd be interested in taking a tandem axle flatbed
trailer or any farm tractor in trade. Let me know what you have; regardless
of year, make, or model.

For Sale:

1979 F-150 XLT Supercab 4x4
Approx: 109,000 Miles

Body is decent. Not "spotless" by any means, but good. Bed floor is the usual.
(Had been treated with "Z-bart" undercoating at some point)

351M V-8
New main bearing installed, new oil pump, new fuel pump.
Runs strong.

C-6 Automatic

Front and Rear leaf springs

31" tires, 70% tread

New brake pads, shoes, front calipers, and rear wheel cylinders

(Misc. extra parts to go too. Sliding rear window, tail lights, etc.)

460 conversion "KIT" for your installation project Includes:

- NOS Ford 460 bare block
- '77 460 (complete)
- rear sump oil pan, pick-up, support bolt
- 460 "van" alternator bracket
- 460 "truck" exhaust manifolds
- L&L 460 motor mounts

Price: $2500.00

Interested parties should email me privately. I intend to list it locally
if no one here is interested.

Dale Frenz
Columbus OH



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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:35:09 -0500
Subject: Re: question from a true novice
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> a friend of mine said i might have low gear ratio... would he be
> talking about the differential, the transmission or what?

Differential probably. You need a tach to see how many rpm you are turning
when you max out. You can't go as fast with 4.10 gears as you can with 3.25
gears. The higher the numbers on the differential are, the lower the top
speed of the vehicle, all other factors being equal. What really counts is
the final drive ratio which takes into account any variance in the
transmission such as overdrive.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: skordik yahoo.com
Subject: FW: Re: valve clatter
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:06:52 -0500

Be thankful that is is summer only. We have it all year long in SE WI. The
gas is
not only bad, but mileage is worse and at the beginning of summer we paid
$2.19/gal. It hurt when you only get 8-10mpg. especially when a fill up
easily
ran over $100.

Steve Kordik
71 F250 4x4
98 E350 Club Wagon


> I hate the summer only 'reformulated' gas that we've got here
> in SE PA.
> My '95 Mustang GT started acting up something fierce (bad
> valve clatter)
> right after I filled up with my first tank after June 1st.
> Coincidence?
> I don't think so.  I've got to use Premium to overcome it though so
> consider yourself lucky that you only have to go up one
> grade.  Why can't
> they just make good gas and leave well enough alone.  Sigh...
>
> Later,
>
> Eric Finn


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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:16:02 GMT
Subject: Re: valve clatter


> I just
>filled up with mid grade Diamond Shamrock. Guess what? No more valve clatter

>when I leave a stop sign.

Now I know this is pretty radical for the FTE list and stuff, but have any of
you checked the timing on the vehicle lately ?  Backing off a couple degrees
can go a long ways ... though I have trouble believing John's stock 351M carries
enough compression for this to really be a problem, but 2 deg timing vs. $3
per fillup ...

Also I've always heard this referred to as pinging or knocking, where as valve
clatter is more of a no oil in the lifters noise (I'm sure we've all heard that
for better or worse reasons) ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:55:50 -0500
Subject: Re: valve clatter
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> where as valve
> clatter is more of a no oil in the lifters noise (I'm sure we've all heard
that
> for better or worse reasons) ...

I guess it would be called spark knock or pinging. Now no oil in the
lifters, that is some knock. Whatever it's called, Henry is right on spec
and runs too well to be messing with it. In my case I can well afford $3 a
month which is about how often I fill up. If I was burning 30 gallons a
week...I'd buy a throw away Ranger with a 4 banger and not waste Henry. ;-)

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 13:59:06 -0500
Subject: Re: FW: Re: valve clatter
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> Be thankful that is is summer only. We have it all year long in SE WI. The
> gas is
> not only bad, but mileage is worse

Worst tank of gas I ever had I acquired in Michigan. My brother-in-law
talked me into putting a tank of gasohol in my Cadillac. My engine was tuned
for premium leaded here in Texas. What a ride. That was 20+ years ago.

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:23:51 -0700
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Re: valve clatter

The gas we get here in ME just cost me 2 injectors at $98 apiece in my '97
D&dge. They were clogged up with ???

I found a recipe once for a filter that uses activated charcoal to supposedly
remove all the "additives" in gas, therefor pumping only pure fuel into the
carb. If I can find it again, I'm gonna build one and see how it works.

Gregster
'77 F-250 Explorer 4x4

John LaGrone wrote:

> Not only has gasoline gotten more expensive, it also has lost some quality.
> Now I know Henry is old and probably has some carbon deposits, but... I just
> filled up with mid grade Diamond Shamrock. Guess what? No more valve clatter
> when I leave a stop sign. I guess I'll continue to spring for the extra $3
> per fill up. ($42 vs. $39) BTW, I put mid grade Chevron in SWMBOs Towncar
> and that cured the hesitation problem it had.
>
> Financing the Arab world from deep in the heart of Texas...
>
> -- John
> jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
> 1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
> http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
> Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:40:14 -0400
From: Tony Marino <redneck raex.com>
Subject: 70  long bed frame & bed 4 sale

I also have a '70  longbed F-100 bed and frame for sale-- bed in restorable
condition..  Located in Akron, Ohio.   (all steering/front end assembly
included)

$650 takes all, $400 takes bed.   Truck came from western Tennessee- good
condition- no salt.


Tony Marino
redneck raex.com

At 13:02 8/31/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>Any Title to match the frame #'s?
>
>
>Ken Schneider
>SW Michigan
>68 F100 Ranger 360/C6/3.25
>
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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
From: Scott Hall <sch8489 garnet.acns.fsu.edu>
Subject: Re: THE FILLY'S STILL HERE!

our hummers here come green camo when they arrive.

On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, John LaGrone wrote:

> Someone is pulling your leg here, Lisa. When Desert Storm hit, Fort Hood
> painted their entire fleet. They went from green camo to desert sand camo.
> Generally, if the Army can't do it in one of their shops, they don't need it
> done. It is true that they contract a lot of stuff out these days.


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From: A61fordtruck aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:59:27 EDT
Subject: parts trucks

In a message dated 08/31/2000 10:06:08 AM EST, listar ford-trucks.com writes:

I recently bought a parts truck for $500 with working 460/c6,   ps and pb
setup, front discs, tilt, brandnew holley carb + an older one, extra 460
mounts, towing package radatior, cruize control, and and and....  the funny
thing is at the time, I thought i'd payed way too much for it!  to top it all
off, I've sold around $500 worth of  parts off of it!  be patient, keep your
eyes open, and get a whole truck.  it sure makes it easy when one bolt is
holding up progress, and all you have to do is go get it off your parts truck!

Greg schnakenberg


>  > I am in a quandry. I have located a truck (74 F250) at a boneyard that
has
>  > a few "features" I have been lusting after - namely a C-6 automatic and
>  > power front disk brakes. They want $650 for the whole shootin' match.
>  ========================================================
>  that sure is ALLOT for a few parts i would think you could find a whole
>  truck for allot less than that with a bad engine or something
>  gordon

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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:16:46 -0500
From: Dwight Comfort <dcomfort tic.bisman.com>
Subject: engine with no cam shaft

Andrew,
This sounds weird but I can now picture in my mind what this man has
designed.
His design is like a double overhead cam system only, the long piece
turned is not a cam, it is a solid cylinder with holes bored through it
in the proper sequence to open and close at the proper time for the
timing of valves.  If it works as he states, it will be an awesome new
thing to watch run.  For distributor timing, he must have something
still in the camshaft position though.  I wonder about his claims for up
to 18:1 compression ratios too.  Thanks for bringing it to our
attention! :)

>Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2000 23:30:33 -0700
>From: Negative Image <negativeimage earthlink.net>
>Subject: it's andrew, you all have to check this out... seriously
>
>1000 horsepower engine, with no cam.... DO WHAT?!
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fbody.com/coates/
>
>--
>Andrew Rolfsen
>1971 AMC Javelin SST
>1968 Mercury Cougar
>1966 Plymouth Fury III


Dwight Comfort
75 F250 SC lwb 460 C6


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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:08:57 -0500
Subject: Re: Wheel ID
From: Brett L Habben <bhabben juno.com>

Nate,
Most car and light truck stamped steel rims have the code stamped next to
the valve stem.  Salvage yards have cross reference manuals listing all
the codes by application.
Brett
>My parts catalog lists the stamping numbers used on these
>wheels.  I can use that # to make sure I have the right ones, but I have
been
>unable to find any numbers- even on the two wheels I already have.  Does

>anyone know where to look for this stamping number??
>Nate


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Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:01:47 -0500
Subject: Re: New 390 Pix
From: Brett L Habben <bhabben juno.com>

Howard,
The old Joe White's Performance building?  Ahhh....thanks!
Brett
PS. 20 years ago one of my friends ran his '68 Mustang GT390/4spd. on a
chassis dyno.  It was surprisingly stock, with just a cam, a set of
headers, a set of 427 or 428 heads (can't remember which) and matching
intake.
It measured 315hp. at the rear wheels.
>It is off of Ben White, across from the Discount tire and behind the old
Dunkin
>Donuts. There is a speed shop next door named B&B performance, i think.
>Howardb
>>Brett Habben wrote:
>> Howard,
>> Where is this dyno?

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From: "Ballinger" <ballingr sbmu.net>
Subject: Lower CR
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:36:53 -0500

Cj writes:  >>We're working on another 428, and I'm wondering how much
effort we should
put into getting the CR down from over 10???? The engine guy says he knows
someone who has a program set up on his CNC mill to cut out the stock heads
to increase the chamber sizes.<<

>>>CJ!!  Ain't none of my business nor did you write it to me, but I want to
make a suggestion!!!  Why not take just a few thousandths off the tops of
all the pistons rather than gouging out the combustion chamber in the heads.
Pistons are a bit easier to come by than a really good set of heads, aren't
they??
I"ll hush now..<<<

The only thing about shaving the piston is that you increase the quench
distance.  If you get much past .060 (less is better)distance between the
crown of the piston and the head (.040 distance is caused by the head
gasket, it doesn't leave much to cut, when the deck height is usually .010)
it can cause part of the mixture to stay in the quench area instead of being
squished out into the chamber. If there is sufficient fuel there the engine
will detonate worse than if you had kept the CR up.


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From: "Jason and Kathy" <kendrick mddc.com>
Subject: Re: engine with no cam shaft
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:48:44 -0500

It sounds good, but how realistic is this? I was particularly interested in
the vacuum advance distributor, and are those Weber carbs on that manifold?
Rather low tech on a motor that claims 1000hp on a website showcase. I
wonder how much more it would produce with DI(Direct Injection) and a
computer controlled ignition? Sorry, but I'm a bit skeptical.
Jason Kendrick


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From: "Ballinger" <ballingr sbmu.net>
Subject: Valve stem seals
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 20:22:20 -0500

>>The gasket kit I got had the old unbrella types, so that is what I put
back on..  I didn't know any better, but I'm confident they will work as
well cause thats
what I've always used.  Apparently most of the oil that gets on the stem is
up near the
top, so the umbrella will keep it from getting near the guide and getting
sucked into
the combustrion chamber!!!  Only thing I can figure..  <<

The FE is a bit different in the rocker oiling, as you know.  What I'm
seeing lately is that the replacement parts(rockers, and shafts) don't fit
as well as they should.  A set of loose rockers(as they fit on the shaft)
will really bleed off a lot of oil into the valve covers.  I converted to a
solid cam, so I blocked the lifter galleys.  The pressure up there is higher
now, and no doubt makes even more go up there.  The trouble you get into
here is that if the returns can't keep up the guides get covered, and even a
positive seal won't stop the oil from going down the guide.  And a brand new
engine with new everything will smoke like a tar wagon.

I'm switching from the '69 style baffles that divert all of the oil to the
end returns, to a set of the tongue type baffles that divert most of the oil
into the intake valley,  A fellow named Rob (and his wife Lara) McQuarie,
who owns a company called "Blue Oval Performance" specializing in Ford
perfomance, suggested them.  He also suggested reducing my restrictors from
a #90 Holley down to a #71 under the stands.  Hopefully this along with the
PC seals will stop the flood down the guides.


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: wheel ID
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:53:16 -0400

I have a picture of a 1966 16" split rim I am looking for for my 67.  The
picture shows how Firestone stamped their rims.  Be advised that
manufacturers often changed things during the production runs.  For
instance, I have another set rims made by Firestone in 1966 which look
identical, but are not stamped the same way as the one shown on my site.  I
guess it boils down to how much attention to detail you wish to resort to.
>
> Stock Man
=============================================================
MAN
I WISH i wouldve known you a few years ago i had all kinds of them darn rims
around the house i ended up GIVING them to the junk yard just to get rid of
them
i have a friend who MIGHT have some if i can remember over the weekend i
will ask him if i see or hear from him
get ahold of me next week after the holiday
gordon


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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:49:33 EDT
Subject: Re: wheel ID

Thanks Gordon.  Now if someone could only help Nate.....

Stock Man
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> i have a friend who MIGHT have some if i can remember over the weekend i
>  will ask him if i see or hear from him
>  get ahold of me next week after the holiday

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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:04:38 EDT
Subject: 1967 F-Series Registry

Hi Everybody!

   As many of you know, I have a "thing" for 67's.  One of my many projects
has been to establish a registry.  I have been developing the registry over
the past year.   I am now ready to officially launch the on-line version of
the 1967 F-Series Registry.  The intent of the registry is to serve as a
resource for all 1967 F-Series owners.  There is no fee to participate and
your right to privacy is held in the highest regard.  I welcome everyone to
check it out.  Click the Registry link on my site's main page.  For those of
you who own a 1967 F-Series, please register your truck.  All you need is the
door tag data and a few minutes to complete the online registration form.  I
will decode your door tag data and prepare a report which is sent to you by
email.  Suggestions and comments are welcome and appreciated.  Thanks for
your support in advance.

Thom (a/k/a Stock Man)
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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:06:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: it's andrew, you all have to check this

At 11:30 PM 30:08:2000 -0700, Negative Image wrote:
>1000 horsepower engine, with no cam.... DO WHAT?!
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fbody.com/coates/

Andrew, List;

I don't know if you were following F1 racing 8 or 9 years
ago, but that was when this type of engine first popped up.

The problem seemed to be the size of the intake opening,
and the engine wouldn't make any torque at low rpm, aside
from that, it would rev to 15K, where it would make adequate
Torque and HP, in other words, not enough to be competitive....

Yours truely,  F1 freak...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:36:51 EDT
Subject: Re: it's andrew, you all have to check this out... seriou

In a message dated 8/30/00 9:29:01 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
negativeimage earthlink.net writes:

<< 1000 horsepower engine, with no cam.... DO WHAT?!
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.fbody.com/coates/ >>
Coates has been promoting these heads for several years now.  They appear to
work fantastically if you can afford them.  I looked into them and determined
it would cost around $15,000 to build up a 460 with the Coats heads.  It uses
rotating ball valves instead of the conventional valve and cam.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Gary's back
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 22:22:27 -0500


Gary writes:  >>What year?<<

The subject line reads '72???????
Wanna share that smoke???


Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:37:06 EDT
Subject: Re: THE FILLY'S STILL HERE!

In a message dated 8/31/00 9:37:39 AM Central Daylight Time,
Bad4dFilly aol.com writes:

<< Where are you located at and could you send me more info? Thanks! I'm
in California  >>

I'm in Arkansas- and I wil be glad to see what I can find out.  I would,
however, like to re-empahasize that I was passing along information given to
me which may or may not be accurate.  I'll ask the person who gave me the
info and we'll se what we can find out.  I realize you won't be crossing the
country just for paint, but surely if it's in Arkansas it was in Cali a
LOOOONG time ago.

Nate

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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:55:14 EDT
Subject: Re: wheel ID

Well, I had planned to get lots of work done on my truck today, but the
afternoon heat halted that.  It was a little cooler than yesterday.  The NWS
says we hit 111, but today was only 110  :)
Anyway, I decided to rummage salvage yards today after it got too hot to do
real work, and I learned a little about IDing wheels.  First is: it IS
posibleto eyeball the difference between 5" and 5.5" wheels!  The second is
that there was apparently NO designated place to stamp wheels.  I purchased
two today, each stamped differently, andI am still unsure whether the other
two I have are stamped at all.  I now have 4 wheels, and have another waiting
on me if it is the correct width.  5 down, 5 more to go!  (2 trucks, and
spares!)

Thanks to all who gave advice.  You were all correct and very helpful.  Keep
me in mind if any of you run across these wheels within driving distance of
SE arkansas!

Thanks again!
Nate

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From: "Luke Phillips" <lukes67ford hotmail.com>
Subject: 460 Headers
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:28:16 CDT

Dear Ford Buddies,
Does anyone out there know who makes headers for a 460 that will fit my 67
1/2 ton, besides Sanderson and L&L? The L&L headers are $450.00 thats a bit
steep for my wallet. The Sanderson headers will require alot more work at
the muffler shop which means more money. How hard would it be to make my
own? Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks....

Luke Phillips
67 F100 short bed 240 I6 (460 in the works!) 2001 Super Nats Bound!
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From: "Carver" <carver ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: wheel ID
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 21:48:03 -0700

Did the 5 & 5.5 come in both 15 & 16 inch?
or are they mutually exclusive?

I also have two of the 16.5 rims, with split rims.
Not sure if Nates are split rim also.  But if someone
wants a complete set of 4, they're available.

I think they were aftermarket rims, Dad added them to
my truck to raise the rear end a bit.  3/4 ton camper
on a 1/2 ton truck tends to sag a bit.

If I remember right, Nate wants the 15" and I the 16"
rims for our '64's, so if any pop up, they'll satisfy
one of us.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab
----------------------------------------
I'm trying to round up two sets of original wheels for my 64 F-100's.  These
are the old style that had the internal locking hubcaps.  My problem is that
they came in both 5" and 5.5" widths.  I'm not confident that I could
eyeball
the difference between them, but I need to make sure I get all of them the
same width.  My parts catalog lists the stamping numbers used on these
wheels.  I can use that # to make sure I have the right ones, but I have
been
unable to find any numbers- even on the two wheels I already have.  Does
anyone know where to look for this stamping number??

Also- I have 2 other wheels of the same design, but they are 16.5" wheels
and
have the same 5 on 5.5 bolt circle.  Anyone have any idea what these might
be
off of?  I don't need them, but I don't want to trash them if someone might
be looking for a pair.

Thanks in advance

Nate


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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 01:06:39 EDT
Subject: Re: wheel ID

In a message dated 8/31/00 11:50:11 PM Central Daylight Time,
carver ncwebsurfer.com writes:

<< If I remember right, Nate wants the 15" and I the 16"
rims for our '64's, so if any pop up, they'll satisfy
one of us. >>

ummm  you need the 16" wheels??  I found one in really good shape today-
where are you located??

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 ALLTEL.NET>
Subject: Re: 460 Headers
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 02:48:47 -0400


> Does anyone out there know who makes headers for a 460 that will fit my 67
> 1/2 ton, greatly appreciated. Thanks....
>
> Luke Phillips
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try DYNOMAX headers
gordon


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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 10:13:23 -0500
Subject: Re: engine with no cam shaft
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

>  For distributor timing, he must have something ....


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