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61-79-list Digest Wed, 23 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 213

In This Issue:
Re: sideloader woes
Re: NUKE GM
Re: Nuke GM
Re: "Chromed" Plastic
Re: EBML Hilarious ˙ot really EB related
Re: Stroker W's
A/C deturant
Re: "Chromed" Plastic
Greet this newbie.....
Re: bigger tires
Re: Greet this newbie.....
Re: Flipped shackle
Re: 351M distributor shear pin repair
Early T-10 4 speed
Re: Flipped Shackle
KING PINS
Re: Flipped shackle
Re: 79 bronco mods pictures (also has some flipped s
Re: Rechrome plastic
Re: KING PINS
FW: shackle flip
Re: Greet this newbie.....
Another use for Herculiner... VERY FUNNY!
Ignition Upgrades
76 F250 with 500 original miles
Re: Ignition Upgrades
Re: steering locked.
Miscellany from last night

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:12:32 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: sideloader woes

>>    I recently got a great deal on a t-10 sideloader (it was practically
>> given to me) with some other stuff for a '63 390.  Or so I thought.
>  a knowledgeable friend
>> is convinced (but I'm skeptical) that the transmission is only for 406/427
>> hi-po engines, and is worth $$.  >
>> ________________________________________________________________________
>the sideloaders were not a very good tranny really thats why ford quit using
>them at the time from what i know they were not strong enough to handle the
>torque of the F/Es
>as far as being worth big bucks i guess if a fella was restroing one
>completely original with numbers matching for show YEA i guess it would be
>worth something but i dont think really that much myself
>the F/Es a;ll had the same bolt pattern even the 406s and early 390s i have
>a 62 390 and its the same as my 72 360 and the 69 390s as well
>gordon
>

It is my understanding Ford used the T-10's with an aluminum case on the early
Lightwieght Galaxies for A/FX and B/FX racing and they had mucho trouble
keeping them
together so they went with the Toploader sometime during the 64 production
run of Lightweights.
Rumor has it they only built 10 to 15 Lightweights with the T-10 before
switching to the toploaders.
Problem solved!  If anyone has some information or lit on the 64
Lightwieghts and 64 T-Bolts, I would enjoy having
some of that lit sent my way.  Thanks!

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:16:31 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: NUKE GM

At 08:34 AM 8/23/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>Ox writes:  >>Is this anyone we know??? :-)
>
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.blueovalnews.com/
>
>See http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.blueovalnews.com, 3rd story down "Is this Heaven? No,
>it's Mustang Alley" (picture at bottom)
>
> Stu!!  Did you not "Register" your Call sign???
>
>Looks as if someone else thinks as you do.. Dang!!!  That is scarey...

>
>Azie Magnusson
>Ardmore, Al.
>

Azie,

No need to register "my" call sign......seems to me great minds DO think
alike!
I say Nuke 'em all except MY beloved FoMoCo's we all drive!  8^)

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:20:19 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Nuke GM

At 11:19 AM 8/23/00 -0500, you wrote:
>
>John LaG. writes:  >>Couldn't be Stu or the plates would be from
Tennessee. ;-) (and on a Ford
>truck, of course!)<<
>
>Yeah!!  I knew it wasn't Stu.  I was just giging him a bit about someone
else thinking as he does..Scary to say the least..
>
>

Hey Azie,  I see nothing wrong with my thought processes....That guy in
Michigan is "right on"!  ;^)
As far as a DOT legal plate, I don't have the nerve to slap that one on my
truck just yet......I have been
thinkin about it for the 68 Prostreeter truck when it gets done in about 4
years.

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm

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Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 21:22:43 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: "Chromed" Plastic

At 05:31 PM 8/23/00 CDT, you wrote:
>Hello All,
>
>Does anyone know who rechromes those plastic dash parts?
>
>Thanks.
>______________


American Plastic Chrome in Romulus MI did my 71 bezel.  Call information
for a number.  I have not had the address
for a while.  I know they advertise in Hemmings, try there!  They did a
fabulous job!
Pricey but fabulous!!!

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm

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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: EBML Hilarious ˙ot really EB related
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:28:51 -0700


Rhino- lined, for her pleasure.

> Use this as an example of what not to do.
>
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595
>
>
> _____________________________________________________________
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>


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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Stroker W's
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 20:46:27 -0700

Some of the places I hunt are 4 hours from the nearest highway, let alone a
phone or someones farm.
Breaking down, getting stuck or injured out there could become a life or
death situation in certain parts of the year.  Plus, I like to be as self
sufficient as possible.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:10 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Stroker W's


>
>
> >My 77 1/2t 4WD tips the scales at 5800 lbs.  My Bronco weighs somewhere
> >around 5300- 5500 lbs the last time I checked, and I'm not a "big":^)
boy.
>
> >By the time you add a winch, bumpers, large tires, spare parts and tools
> >(carried most of the time) and all of the extra stuff, it adds up fast.
> >
>
> Hahahaha, no offense intended, being a "flatlander" I just keep jumper
cables
> and a tow rope (for lack of anywhere better to put it in the summer)
behind
> the seat, that's about it for "emergency" equipment ... at most you'll get
stuck
> a mile or so from someone's house/barn, and with a Ford truck, you
shouldn't
> get stuck at all :)
>
> I can see where adding the winch and all the chains and stuff will really
bring
> your curb weight up pretty quickly  :)
>
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
> 73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>
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From: Clemstang1 aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 23:54:23 EDT
Subject: A/C deturant

Well, just seen the post the other day about the fresh air and recir. on the
old trucks. Amazing the things you can find out on here never new that it was
there but I found it. All the way to the left the door flap was open and just
a tad to the right the door was open. There was about a 5 or 6 temp degree
change (not much for the hot weather here). But oh we'll just goes to show
that you can't know everything.......:o)
                                                 Thanks
73 F-150 (pro-street) 520
79 F-150 (Lariat) 460
89 Mustang 302
"Hopefully"  94 F-150 (Flairside) 351

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From: Natp244 cs.com
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:02:02 EDT
Subject: Re: "Chromed" Plastic

In a message dated 8/23/00 9:23:52 PM Central Daylight Time,
nukegm ford-trucks.com writes:

<< American Plastic Chrome in Romulus MI did my 71 bezel.  Call information
for a number.  I have not had the address
for a while. >>

American Plastics Chrome
1398 Marann
Westland, MI 48185

Nate

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From: daves8 juno.com
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:30:03 -0600
Subject: Greet this newbie.....

Howdy, y'all......

I just joined and this is my first post.  Hope this question isn't too
basic for you.

I have a '73 F250 Camper Special (2WD).  I've rebuilt the steering box
and replaced the pump.  Tires are 235/75R16. Bearings are tight, kingpins
pretty good (barely able to feel any looseness).  Steering box cross
shaft adjustment is snug.  Steering linkage is good.  Alignment's set to
specs.

The truck still wanders around.  The steering is vague and much too light
for my tastes.

I have a 1985 E-350 motorhome with much more solid steering and wouldn't
mind the F250 steering that well.

What can I do to improve the feel and increase the steering force on the
F250?  Is there a later box that will interchange or a modified pump?

Any other ideas, guys?

Thanks for your help.

Dave Schoenberg
Arvada, Colorado
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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: bigger tires
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 00:37:54 -0500


I have 15x8's on the back, and 15x7's on the front. The tires I have on there are high performance street tires.

These are the wheels I have: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://store.summitracing.com/part.asp?ssid=YVBKCUEIB74SEU4YPDSJM61WL3&orderid=IQOESHV3N2ISJHQ1385JR5SOKXVP6X8JYILO&part=2D25CB71-3630-11D3-949D-080009FC5B5F

3 3/4 backspacing in the rear.

I have 275/60R15's on the back and 215/75R15's on the front... they're a little on the small side compared to the rear tires.


---Garrett www.1966ford.com
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: MARTY COLMAN
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:42 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: bigger tires


 Garrett wrote:
 >on my 66 I have P275/60R15's

 Are those street tires or mud/snow?
 What size rims do you have?  Do you know the offset?

 I have 15X7 chrome rims and 2 local tire shops have told me that the widest
 tire I can put on it is a 235/75/15, I don't agree with them.  I run Wild
 Country RVT (mud/snow tire) and I want more tread - without buying new rims.

 So what size tire would be about the same diameter but wider tread?  Or are
 they right - should I be looking for wider rims, if so, what size? 15x8?
 15x10?

 Thanks to all for your help.

 Marty
 '73 F100 2wd



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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" <gpeters3 visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Greet this newbie.....
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 06:31:40 -0400

Your King pins may feel tight but they may actually be too tight, that is
seized by dry grease or rust.  The single most common cause for ford trucks
wandering all over the road is seized king pins.  If they take grease and
grease comes out both ends then this may not be the problem but you should
investigate this.  The only way I know of to be sure is to drop the tie rods
and manually try to turn each wheel.   They should flop back and forth with
your little finger.  If they don't you need to replace the king pins.

If you decide to drop the tie rods, invest in a good puller, not a tuning
fork so you can reuse the ends.  Prying on the ends with a tuning fork ruins
the joints.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>The truck still wanders around.  The steering is vague and
>much too light
>for my tastes.

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" <gpeters3 visteon.com>
Subject: Re: Flipped shackle
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:19:14 -0400

I simply used a crow bar to flip them so they were in the stock location
what ever that was :-)  The chevy was originally in suspension.  Flipping it
put it in compression and on a hard rebound the spring would flex enough to
pull the shackle back enough to flip back over.....very disconcerting to say
the least :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I'm only 19 but I haven't stuck a 2X4 in it yet...Maybe a
>couple more days
>of this and I will.
>If I get what you mean by flipping back  wouldn't this be
>caused by the the
>spring perch mounted to far back.  Letting the shackle be angled to far
>toward the front on the vehicle when the suspensions droops?
>
>Josh

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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" <gpeters3 visteon.com>
Subject: Re: 351M distributor shear pin repair
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:08:56 -0400

I've never closely examined one that I can think of for that particular
aspect but thought they had a relief valve in them for that?  Doesn't seem
like they should be open if they aren't plugged?.  I'll have to take a look
at some of the old ones I have lying around I guess.  What's the point in
having a screen if you leave the sides open?  Guess the engineers all figure
the big floaters will all be on the bottom and not be dragged into those
openings, eh?   I can tell you that the clearance between the rotor and
housing is so small that a page from a fine, onion skin bible is thick
enough to stop it cold......

Wasn't suggesting that you didn't know better just pointing out that if the
pin doesn't come out easily there has obviously been some trauma to it so
that is where I usually go first.  I do manually check for looseness by hand
of course and visually inspect it to see if it has moved up or down on the
shaft etc. too but I've seen some pressed on so tight that even with no pin
it took considerable force to move them.

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>the oil pump pickup tube and screen with Genuine Ford replacement
>units.  Upon examination of the new tube and screen, there is
>a large gap
>all the way around the edge of the screen except where the

>grabbed it on
>the part you slip the pin in, not on the drive gears

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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:25:00 -0500
Subject: Re: A/C detent
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

> Well, just seen the post the other day about the fresh air and recir. on the
> old trucks. Amazing the things you can find out on here never new that it was
> there but I found it. All the way to the left the door flap was open and just
> a tad to the right the door was open. There was about a 5 or 6 temp degree
> change (not much for the hot weather here). But oh we'll just goes to show
> that you can't know everything.......:o)
>                                                   Thanks

Your welcome

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!


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From: "Desanto, Phillip" <pdesanto Cinergy.com>
Subject: Early T-10 4 speed
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:27:06 -0400


Alex,
Send me the casting codes off of the transmission housing and I will try
to clear it up.  (No guarantee, but I will give it a try.)
Larry W. Blum, Jr.
Pensacola, Fl.
"mailto:lwblumjr juno.com"
Never be afraid to try something new.  Remember, the Ark was built by
amateurs and the Titanic was built by professionals.



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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:53:05 GMT
Subject: Re: Flipped Shackle



>"wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
>
>> Hahahaha, sounds like an old Chrysler with its torsion bar rear suspension
...
>> take off hard and the back lifts instead of lowering ...   ^^^^
>
>Uhhhhh, didn't you mean "front", or did I REALLY miss a few years during the

>early '70's?  ;-)
>

Nope, I really meant rear ... I'm talkin 50's though, the first or second gen
hemi's ... not the 'cuda's and stuff from the late 60's and early 70's ...

Just my $.02
wish

96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: KING PINS
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:18:49 -0400

I have a friend with a 63 f 100 and he has had to replace 3 sets of these in
the last 10 years they are all from NAPA he is an auto mechanic by trade so
i know they are being installed right and does machinist work also from what
he can figure out they are just too soft is the problem SO aanyone needing
to replace theirs try and see if fomoco has them and not napa
gordon


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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: Flipped shackle
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:17:54 -0700

Thanks for the measurment,  I'm gonna measure mine tonight and see what I
have.

Josh

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Grossman [mailto:duckdon mac.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 3:41 PM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Flipped shackle


>Are you having the same problem as I am??  My setup looks almost exactly
the
>same--My perch sits a little higher because I didn't want an extra lift.
>What spring are you using, stock?
>
>Josh

Well the truck is a 63 F100.  The springs and hangers are stock 77
F-150 4x4 springs.  The springs are softer than the old set so I
do/did ( have not driven it in a while) have a bit of axle movement
under acceleration but no real lifting.  Here is the rest of the
setup, Dana 60, 4.10's, 35" BFG's in the rear.  Most of the time the
springs do little except locate the rear axle.  The air springs have
about 25psi at ride height and take most of the weight of the truck
off the springs.  I plan on building some locating bars for the
bottom of the axle to keep the fore/aft movement to a minimum.

Right now the springs are fully compressed (as far as they are going
to go with my setup)

The distance between the center of the spring mounts are 53 1/4".
that is from the center of the front spring bolt to the center of the
shackle bolt on the rear hanger.  When I hung those springs I tried
to move the rear axle back about 2" to center the wheel in the wheel
well.

laters
--
Don Grossman
duckdon mac.com

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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: Re: 79 bronco mods pictures (also has some flipped s
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 07:23:49 -0700

When you did your shackle flip did you find it necessary to just flip the
spring perches over, or flip them over and install on the opposite side of
the truck.

I didn't see any reason to switch the sides as both brackets were identicle.

Also does your rear end raise up when you hit the gas? And go down when you
let off or hit the brakes?

Josh

Shackle flip for stock springs. Best fit for shackle travel/lift was
drilling rear holes, about midway between stock set of holes. A little
over an inch actual lift at axle.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/DILYSI/shackflip.jpg
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/DILYSI/shackflip2.jpg
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/DILYSI/shackflip3.jpg


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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:24:15 -0400
From: Don Haring <haring fedora.net>
Subject: Re: Rechrome plastic

Pit Stop asked for info about plastic rechroming, and I found the web page
for this service:
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.emag.on.ca/falcon/examples.htm

I think this guy's name is John Heatherton(?), but I might be off on the
last name a bit. He is a member of TFFN, The Ford Falcon News, a mailing
list for Falcons, and that's how I heard of him. I have NOT used his
service, but other list members have and had only good things to say about
it. John's a Falcon owner, so you know he's a fellow Ford enthusiast. He's
in Canada and from what I've heard from others, they didn't have any
problems with shipping or distance.

-don

Don Haring, Jr., Philadelphia, PA
FCA Keystone Chapter Editor
61 Futura, 66 Club Wagon and classic scooters



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From: "Peters, Gary (G.R.)" <gpeters3 visteon.com>
Subject: Re: KING PINS
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 10:37:25 -0400

As I said before, seized rather than worn is usually the reason we have to
replace them.  I've used the plastic ones before with good results.  If your
truck sits a lot as many of them do the grease dries out and sets up so that
when you get back in the pins are not free enough to allow the Angle of
Inclination and Caster to return the wheels to center using the Vehicle
weight as it is designed to do so you try to "Put" it back on center but you
have no real reference so always miss it by just a hair and the vehicle
wanders off in the new direction because it can't "Auto Center".  I've only
seen two actually loose sets of pins so far.  One had way over 100k on it
and hadn't been greased properly the other was improperly reamed.  If you
grease them at every oil change or every 2k miles as the old ones are
supposed to be greased they will last almost forever on the highway.....off
road is a whole nuther smoke :-)

--
Michigan, Pot Hole Jumping,
78 Bronco Loving, Gary
--

>I have a friend with a 63 f 100 and he has had to replace 3
>sets of these in
>the last 10 years they are all from NAPA he is an auto
>mechanic by trade so
>i know they are being installed right and does machinist work

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From: "Nichols, Josh" <Josh.Nichols svseeds.com>
Subject: FW: shackle flip
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:03:07 -0700



-----Original Message-----
From: James Oxley [mailto:joxenburger yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2000 7:46 AM
To: Nichols, Josh
Subject: shackle flip


I can not send this to the list from work, so you can
forward it to list if you want.

When you did your shackle flip did you find it
necessary to just flip the
spring perches over, or flip them over and install on
the opposite side of
the truck.

I don't recall. I put them that way and that spot as
I wanted them to angle back as the "inside" arc allows
more travel than the outside arc. At the point they
are at, they will not "flip" over to the front after
full droop. This happened to me on one side when I
first flipped them and the shackle went straight up
into the frame, making truck sit 2" lower on that side
:-).

I didn't see any reason to switch the sides as both
brackets were identicle.

End of leaf will end up in the same place (in space),
no matter which way shackle is pointing. It just
affects how much travel you have left (rearward). It
also may affect actual forces (X-Y) that are placed on
lower shackle bolt, since technically, the shackle is
not putting force directly down on the shackle, there
is some front/back loading also.  Shackle must be
angled toward back of truck in a static position or
you could have problems.

 Make sure you tighten shackle bushing/bolt in static
positon also. If you tighten it with suspension in
compression/droop, then shackle bushing will try to
force shackle into that positon where you tightened
it.

Also does your rear end raise up when you hit the gas?


No

And go down when you let off or hit the brakes?

No

I have them flipped on my big truck also,

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/shackflip.jpg
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/shackleflip2.jpg

(second picture is with susp in full droop)

I screwed up on these (my first try) and shackle is
backwards from how it should be for max travel. Also,
shackle mount is farther forward since these springs
were re-arched and are shorter front to back.

I don't have problems on that one either, although I
have an elaborate ladder bar setup on that so springs
can not wrap.

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/Ladmount1.jpg

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.thecore.com/~luxjo/BRONC_DETAILS/ladbarheimJnt.jpg

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From: "Hogan, Tom" <Tom.Hogan kla-tencor.com>
Subject: Re: Greet this newbie.....
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:19:15 -0700


> Howdy, y'all......
>
> I just joined and this is my first post.  Hope this question isn't too
> basic for you.
>
> I have a '73 F250 Camper Special (2WD).  I've rebuilt the steering box
> and replaced the pump.  Tires are 235/75R16. Bearings are
> tight, kingpins
> pretty good (barely able to feel any looseness).  Steering box cross
> shaft adjustment is snug.  Steering linkage is good.
> Alignment's set to
> specs.
>
> The truck still wanders around.  The steering is vague and
> much too light
> for my tastes.
>
> I have a 1985 E-350 motorhome with much more solid steering
> and wouldn't
> mind the F250 steering that well.
>
> What can I do to improve the feel and increase the steering
> force on the
> F250?  Is there a later box that will interchange or a modified pump?
>
> Any other ideas, guys?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Dave Schoenberg
> Arvada, Colorado
> ________________________________________________________________


Dave,
Welcome to the list.  Vague feedback is par for the course in these trucks.
When you rebuild the steering box did you replace the rag joint?  It is a
flexible joint between the steering column and the steering box.  After 30
years the rubber part of these disintegrate and you have no direct connect
between the column and the box anymore.  In fact the steering wheel will
turn about 15 or 20 degrees before the box knows it.  The joint was still
availble from Ford 4 years ago.

If the king pins are siezed or not proberly lubricated this can also
contribute to steering wander.

The only way I can think of to improve feedback over a properly operating
stock system would be to put a larger pully on the pump to slow it down.
But then you would really not have any power assist at low rpm/speed (ie
parking) when you needed it.

Good luck

Tom H.

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Another use for Herculiner... VERY FUNNY!
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:26:02 -0500


This is a little off topic, but it's the funniest thing I have read in a long time! I'm on page 9 now and still reading... and I can't stop laughing!

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=18595

Hope this isn't inappropriate Ken.


---Garrett www.1966ford.com


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From: Matt Senn <msenn avistacom.net>
Subject: Ignition Upgrades
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 09:26:49 -0700

in my truck, i currently have a 390 with a duraspark ii electronic ignition
system and i'm wondering if anyone has had any experience with any
aftermarket ignition upgrades (multiple spark systems, rev limiting, etc)??
does anyone have any recommendations for me??


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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:36:46 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: 76 F250 with 500 original miles

There's a 76 F250 camper special with 500 original miles that has
been stored in a climate controlled room for sale on the web site
classifieds.... I'll get out of the way for the stampede.


Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts


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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Ignition Upgrades
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:44:08 -0500


I have a Mallory Unilite on my 390... I love it! I may add in a Mallory CD box with rev limiter sometime in the future. I have details on my website.

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


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 in my truck, i currently have a 390 with a duraspark ii electronic ignition
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 aftermarket ignition upgrades (multiple spark systems, rev limiting, etc)??
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Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 12:02:12 -0500
Subject: Power steering pulley puller
From: "John LaGrone" <jlagrone ford-trucks.com>

Say that 3 times real fast. I can barely say it one time real slow. To the
story. About 2 years ago I replaced the power steering pump on Henry with a
new one from HiLo, now O'Reilly. At the time they would take the pulley off
of your old pump for you at no charge. Since they have become O'Reilly, all
they need is an AutoZone sign and you couldn't tell whose store you were in.
I now need to replace the power steering pump on SWMBOs Towncar. They wanted
an $87 deposit to borrow one of their pullers. When I asked to buy one they
said they don't sell them. Wrong thing to tell me. So I called around. NAPA
sold me a puller, part# 7759073 for $23.83 plus tax. They had to order it
when I went in at 5 yesterday afternoon and it was there at 9 this morning.
Now that's service. I haven't used it yet. I probably won't until the Labor
Day weekend. I'll let you know how well it functions. Just thought I'd let
you know in case you have been hunting for on of these rare jewels.

I bought the pump from O'Reilly anyway because of the lifetime warranty, but
I am considering this to be my last purchase from them unless they are an
only place that can get it. They had to order the pump and it will take 3
days to get it. It doesn't do any good to hold inventory down if you run off
your customers. End of rant......

-- John
jlagrone ford-trucks.com     <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!

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From: "Alex Cook" <alexcook32 hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: steering locked.
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:11:31 GMT


 Thanks Gary and Wish.  I'm on Digest so there is considerable lag time to
my replys--sorry.
  I will check more thoroughly this evening, but I suspect it is loose
bolts that wore through the frame.  About two months ago there was
considerable wander in the steering, and upon inspection the box was quite
loose.  I hit the bolts with an impact wrench, problem solved...I thought.
Will look more closely for rust tonight.  Thanks!
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From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 19:58:27 GMT
Subject: Miscellany from last night

Well with the phone out last night I resorted to fixing up some stuff on the
truck, thought I'd pass along a couple things I found.

If the wipers aren't returning to their rest position after turning them off,
check the wires, I found one of my wonderful crimp jobs had come loose ... hooked
it back up and they now stop at the bottom when you shut them off instead of
wherever they happen to be.

While I was in there I was tired of fighting my old aftermarket stereo, it had
a tendency to float around in the mount, the shafts were both stripped (and
metric) so the bolts I was using weren't hardly holding it.  I snugged them
down as best I could, then took some zip ties and threaded them around the back
of the unit and the front bracket in the dash ... its tighter than I've ever
had it before now, works great and I can adjust the volume without it spiking
while I'm on the gravel...

My final project for the night was to put the original wheel back on the steering
column, I'd switched to a 79 from my 73 and it didn't work quite right, the ....


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