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61-79-list Digest Tue, 22 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 209

In This Issue:
Re: Stroker W's
Re: sideloader woes
Re: 460 4X4
Re: Stroker W's
Re: Engine
Re: Stroker W's
list record K
Re: list record K
351W Stroker kits
Hi Boy question
bigger tires
Re: Brake lines
Re: 351M Headers for '78 Bronco
Re: Brake lines
Re: bigger tires
Re: unsubscribe
Re: bigger tires
Re: list record K
Re: Dana  60-70
Re: Engine
Re: List Replying
Re: 351M headers for a 78 Bronco
Re: List Replying
Re: List Replying
Re: List Replying
NUKE GM
Re: List Replying
Re: List Replying
collection of daily drivers... not really
Re: List Replying
Re: bigger tires
Re: 351M Headers for '78 Bronco
Re: Tweety's gettin parked
Re: Stroker W's

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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: Stroker W's
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:31:47 -0400



> > If you could move the torque number a little farther down in the band (a
> lot
> > 4000) I think it would make a great truck motor :)
> >
> > Just my $.02
> > wish
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the stroker kits i was reffering to supposedly put out around 480 horse at
4000 rpms
SO now youve got something to work with for a truck motor IF you can afford
it i guess
car craft said tho it was VERY capable of putting out even MORE than that
tho
gordon


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: sideloader woes
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:16:10 -0400


----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Cook <alexcook32 hotmail.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 1:03 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] sideloader woes



>    I recently got a great deal on a t-10 sideloader (it was practically
> given to me) with some other stuff for a '63 390.  Or so I thought.
 a knowledgeable friend
> is convinced (but I'm skeptical) that the transmission is only for 406/427
> hi-po engines, and is worth $$.  >
> ________________________________________________________________________
the sideloaders were not a very good tranny really thats why ford quit using
them at the time from what i know they were not strong enough to handle the
torque of the F/Es
as far as being worth big bucks i guess if a fella was restroing one
completely original with numbers matching for show YEA i guess it would be
worth something but i dont think really that much myself
the F/Es a;ll had the same bolt pattern even the 406s and early 390s i have
a 62 390 and its the same as my 72 360 and the 69 390s as well
gordon


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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: 460 4X4
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:13:55 -0700

Mine worked with just using motor mounts from an 80's Ford with a 460.  Your
existing motor towers should work great.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:17 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] 460 4X4


> Hi all,
> I'm in the midst of trying to replace the 400 in my 78 F-250 4X4 with a
460
> and can't find any engine-to-frame mounting brackets.  We have slim
pickings
> for salvage yards up here in Alaska, and all of the good 4X4 stuff gets
> rebuilt or snatched up quick.  Does anyone on the list have a surplus set
or
> place where they might find some for me?  Does anyone know if there is a
> conversion kit that will allow a 460 to sit on the 400's supports?
> Help, I'm stuck!
> Thanks for anything you can tell me,
> Tim in Anchorage
> '67 F-100
> '78/'79 F-250
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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Stroker W's
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:28:41 -0700

My 77 1/2t 4WD tips the scales at 5800 lbs.  My Bronco weighs somewhere
around 5300- 5500 lbs the last time I checked, and I'm not a "big":^) boy.
By the time you add a winch, bumpers, large tires, spare parts and tools
(carried most of the time) and all of the extra stuff, it adds up fast.

His Bronco is daily driven.  It is set up for rockcrawling and general
wheeling.  Behind the Windsor is a built C4, Dana 20, 9" with a detroit, 44
with true trac, 36" Super Swampers.  The last I heard, he swapped to a Trick
Flow intake, and installed a EEC tuner ECM setup that will allow fine tuning
of the parameters to keep the 423 happy.  I think his race weight comes in
around 5K lbs.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: "wish" <wish ford-trucks.net>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 10:12 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Stroker W's


>
> > It runs low 14's in the 1/4 mile which isn't bad for a 5500 lb brick
> >shaped vehicle, IMO.
>
>
> 5500#'s in an Early Bronco ?  That seems heavy to me, I mean my full size
4x4
> doesn't weigh quite that ... I suppose if he was a BIG boy he might make
up
> some of that weight ... but still 5500 seems high ...
>
> any insight into what else he's done to the truck ?
> Just my $.02
> wish
>
> 96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
> 73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
> http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>
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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:25:13 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Engine

At 09:33 PM 21:08:2000 -0500, Garrett Nelson wrote:
>
>"The least you should do is pull the 390 apart, see if it has the good
>rods.  With floating piston pins and football shaped rod bolt heads."
>
>All 390's don't have those?
>

If that was the case, I wouldn't have said anything about it.
The Car 390FEs had square cut rod bolt heads, the truck and
GT390s had the good rods and bolts.

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: canzus seanet.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:25:16 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: Stroker W's

At 01:11 PM 22:08:2000 GMT, wish wrote:

>has anyone else seen the Saleen S7 ?  Rumor is that 7Litre motor in there is
>a 351W based motor!  Its bored to 4 1/8" and a 4" stroke on it.  Some of the
>aluminum racing blocks will take that much bore and is probably what is being
>used ...

SVT has 4 or 5 iron blocks that will take a 4.125" bore and 4" of stroke
if you have the cubic $'s to put one together...

Steve & the Rockette
68 F100, 390cid, FMX
63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
72 Capri 2000, hers
73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
73 MGB GT, Our Toy
94 SHO, SWMBO's
98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....


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From: "NP 540" <np540 hotmail.com>
Subject: list record K
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:45:59 GMT

Hi
  Today, I had FOUR ford-trucks emails from this list, totaling
133k or so....
Seems to be the most messages so far.
Is it the new record for the most messages from FTE 61-79 list on
a same day?

Boy, there is days when reading 133Ks of messages, even about
Ford trucks, can be (almost) tiring.........     ;)

Yep, I am STAYING on this list!!!

And about the 351M, my "vote" is for MODIFIED!
yea.
yes indeed.
"C'est la vie!"
;)


Gerry
1978 F-150 SuperCab 4x4
1979 F-150 regular cab 4x4
M-block disciple....
"M" is for MODIFIED!
VIVE LE FORD!



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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: Re: list record K
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 17:56:09 -0700

What was it P.T. Barnum said? Something about a sucker born every minute?

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: "NP 540" <np540 hotmail.com>
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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 5:45 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] list record K


> And about the 351M, my "vote" is for MODIFIED!
> yea.
> yes indeed.




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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: 351W Stroker kits
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 18:11:22 -0700

Follow this link...

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.flatlanderracing.com/home.html

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"




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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:02:32 -0700
From: Greg <greg gregster.com>
Subject: Hi Boy question

To the list

What are some features of the Hi Boys that distinquish them from regular
4x4's? I'd like to know what to look for when I'm out "shopping".

TIA
Gregster
'77 F-250 Explorer 4x4


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From: Rizard209 aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:30:46 EDT
Subject: bigger tires

heres the deal .... i have a 1970 f100 everything stock. but i dont like how
the tires on it look.. they look to narrow for such a nice truck i wanna get
bigger rims and wheels but i dont know whats the biggest size i can put on
it. any1 have any ideas? any insight would b appreciated

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:42:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Brake lines

My understanding is that ALL brake lines have double flares at the connection
points. Something to do with metal fatigue and cracking being reduced with a
double flare vs single. Others might have me detained and technical comments
though.

George M in Fl.

In a message dated 8/22/2000 12:20:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
pauljohn nortelnetworks.com writes:

<<  have a 68 Ford/Mercury Camper Special 250 and am in the process of
restoring the brakes to their 1968 glory.  I am having an issue with the
type of flaring used where it hooks into the wheel cylinders.  The
replacement wheel cylinders have fittings for a double flare type of
connection, ie-flares out then back in at the end.  The lines that are on
the truck have a single flare setup (flares out on the end like a trumpet),
as did the wheel cylinders I took off.  I have been told that this double
flare connection was just used on older vehicles.  So my question is, which
type of flaring was originally used on this year of truck?  And since I
don't want to have to replace the lines, can I use the wheel cylinders off
of a mid 70's Ford, as these appear to have the proper seat for the single
flare? >>

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:49:42 EDT
Subject: Re: 351M Headers for '78 Bronco

In a message dated 8/22/2000 1:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ecfinn yahoo.com writes:

<< Thanks for the suggestions.  So far in my research I've found the
following:

Thorley - nothing
Hedman - Street #89210
         Elite #89218
JBA - nothing
Sanderson - nothing
Gibson - nothing
Hooker - #6832
Dynomax - Cyclone and Blackjack are now Dynomax but I can't find an
application guide for their headers.
Flowtech - Painted #12520 - Ceramic #32520
Edelbrock - nothing

So it seems as if there are only three (maybe four if Dynomax has
something) manufacturers that make headers for the 351M/400 for a '78
Bronco.  That would seem to be an un-tapped market given the number of
Bronco's I see running around of that vintage.  Oh well.  Thanks for the
help guys.  Now I just have to see where I can buy these things...  :-)
 >>

I'd stay away from teh Flowtech's. I got a set on mine, and Im not crazy
about the fit, quality (holes in the welds NEW!), or the funky path needed on
the Dr side pipe. On the plus side they were relativly inexpensive (read
cheap), and I got what I paid for, kinda sorta anyway!

George M in Fl.

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From: Seventy4SCab aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:49:57 EDT
Subject: Re: Brake lines

Stainless uses a single flare and regular steel needs the double. The 90
Lincoln Town Car that I am putting under my 57 has regular steel -- double
flare.

Well I missed out on the 74 Supercab :(  Seems you can think too much. I
might not be on this list much longer, but I'll miss it. I read my pre61
digest tonight in about 2 minutes! I have this one on live and I'm never
without mail!

Glenn in TN
57 F100 -- in progress
74 F100 Supercab -- not to be (yet!)

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: bigger tires
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:52:31 -0500


You can go pretty big... on my 66 I have P275/60R15's on the back and they would probably fit on the front too.

I'm assuming the 70 and the 66 are pretty close as far as clearances go. Spend an afternoon with a tape measure and determine what offset you need on your rims. This is very important.

Good luck,

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Rizard209 aol.com
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:30 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] bigger tires


 heres the deal .... i have a 1970 f100 everything stock. but i dont like how
 the tires on it look.. they look to narrow for such a nice truck i wanna get
 bigger rims and wheels but i dont know whats the biggest size i can put on
 it. any1 have any ideas? any insight would b appreciated
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:57:43 -0700
From: Gregg Roe <gr62203 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: unsubscribe

> gr62203 alltel.net


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From: "G & J Boling" <flash1 alltel.net>
Subject: Re: bigger tires
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:04:57 -0400

i wanna get
> bigger rims and wheels but i dont know whats the biggest size i can put on
> it. any1 have any ideas? any insight would b appreciated
> =============================================================
i have 33 x 10:50 15s on my f 100 it looks pretty good and sets up just
about like a stock 4 x 4 does i use factory rims tho
gordon


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:05:19 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: list record K

At 08:45 PM 8/22/00, you wrote:
>Hi
>  Today, I had FOUR ford-trucks emails from this list, totaling
>133k or so....
>Seems to be the most messages so far.
>Is it the new record for the most messages from FTE 61-79 list on
>a same day?

Good question! I wish I knew.  Right now, the digest gets triggered
at 32k.  Two years ago it got triggered at 60k and on occasion there
were two digests.  So today is either a winner or a close tie.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts



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From: SHill48337 aol.com
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:20:19 EDT
Subject: Re: Dana  60-70

In a message dated 8/21/00 8:03:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
np540 hotmail.com writes:

<< Hi everybody!
   Since noticing recently some talks about the Dana-60 rear-end,
I was wondering; how do you differentiate between a Dana-60 and a
Dana-70 on a '70's Ford truck? Just wondering which of those there
is on my 1975 F-250 SuperCab Camper-Special 2x4(junked).
I'm talking about the rear-end here.

 >>
Most likely you have the 60.  The 70 has 70 on the casting and the only ones
I've seen are 8 bolt wheels, with left handed lug nuts on the left side and
right handed ones on the right.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460

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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Engine
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:34:02 -0500


Just double checking.. hey, I learned something. Thanks!

---Garrett www.1966ford.com


 ----- Original Message -----
 From: canzus seanet.com
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Cc: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 7:25 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Engine


 At 09:33 PM 21:08:2000 -0500, Garrett Nelson wrote:
 >
 >"The least you should do is pull the 390 apart, see if it has the good
 >rods.  With floating piston pins and football shaped rod bolt heads."
 >
 >All 390's don't have those?
 >

  If that was the case, I wouldn't have said anything about it.
 The Car 390FEs had square cut rod bolt heads, the truck and
 GT390s had the good rods and bolts.

 Steve & the Rockette
  68 F100, 390cid, FMX
  63 F100, 292cid, 3speed
  72 Capri 2000, hers
  73 Capri 2600, terminal cancer...
  73 MGB GT, Our Toy
  94 SHO, SWMBO's
  98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine....



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From: "Dave Emerick" <djemerick hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:36:22 EST

>Errrrr...... never mind?  Heh heh.

>Ken Payne

Hey Ken....no implication of anything here....there has to be an easier way
to reply back to the list about current topics than the way I'm doing it.
That's all.....nothing more, just wanted to find out the quickest and
dirtiest.

Dave
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 19:44:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Dan Lee <danlee_58 yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: 351M headers for a 78 Bronco

Eric,
My answer is to put 4V Cleveland heads on it and get
Sanderson headers (the ones that the right hand side
goes above the starter). While you are at it you could
put flattop pistons and a 400 crank in it.

Dan Lee
'53 F100
400C-4V


>My question now is what would give me the best setup
>for this truck from
>an exhaust perspective.  I was considering headers,
>true dual exhaust
>(like before) and some sort of high-flow mufflers or
>maybe even glass
>packs again.  I've been looking at the various header
>manufacturers and
>the only direct listing for the '78 Bronco is two
>different ones from
>Hedman.  Thorley, JBA, Sanderson, and Gibson don't
>list anything.  Am I
>missing any manufacturers I should be looking at?
>What do you all have
>for headers on your '78-'79 Broncos with 351M/400
>engines?  TIA!Later,Eric Finn
>'78 Bronco "The Beast" (Project still in
>Progress!)'95 Mustang GT "Beauty"
>'98 Honda Shadow 750 ACE


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 20:56:46 -0600
From: William Whited <f10074 ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying

Dave it depends on what e-mail application you are using.  I.E. Netscape and
Outlook you just click on reply and off you go.  Well seeing how you are using
hotmail, I can see your point there really is no easier way.  What not get an
account from ford-trucks.com and you can use Netscape or Outlook, or you can
get a web based e-mail account.
--
William (Tony) Whited
74 F100 Ranger Supercab 390
77 F150 Custom 460
El Paso, TX
Semper Fi USMC

Dave Emerick wrote:

Hey Ken....no implication of anything here....there has to be an easier way to
reply back to the list about current topics than the way I'm doing it. That's
all.....nothing more, just wanted to find out the quickest and dirtiest.
Dave


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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:46:33 -0500


Click the reply button.

Type.

Click send.

I hope I have simplified it enough!    ;-)


---Garrett www.1966ford.com




 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Dave Emerick
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:36 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: List Replying


 >Errrrr...... never mind?  Heh heh.

 >Ken Payne

 Hey Ken....no implication of anything here....there has to be an easier way
 to reply back to the list about current topics than the way I'm doing it.
 That's all.....nothing more, just wanted to find out the quickest and
 dirtiest.

 Dave
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From: "Garrett Nelson" <garrettnelson writeme.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 21:54:02 -0500


What's the method you are using now? It may seem that clicking the reply button would reply to only the person who sent the message, but the reply-to address is changed to re-direct the email back to the list.

I hope this makes things clear.

---Garrett www.1966ford.com



 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Dave Emerick
 To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
 Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:36 PM
 Subject: [61-79-list] Re: List Replying


 >Errrrr...... never mind?  Heh heh.

 >Ken Payne

 Hey Ken....no implication of anything here....there has to be an easier way
 to reply back to the list about current topics than the way I'm doing it.
 That's all.....nothing more, just wanted to find out the quickest and
 dirtiest.

 Dave
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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:58:07 -0400
From: James Oxley <luxjo thecore.com>
Subject: NUKE GM

Is this anyone we know??? :-)

http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.blueovalnews.com/

See http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.blueovalnews.com, 3rd story down "Is this Heaven? No,
it's Mustang Alley" (picture at bottom)

                                OX

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:01:35 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying

At 10:36 PM 8/22/00, you wrote:
>>Errrrr...... never mind?  Heh heh.
>
>>Ken Payne
>
>Hey Ken....no implication of anything here....there has to be an easier way to reply back to the list about current topics than the way I'm doing it.
>That's all.....nothing more, just wanted to find out the quickest and dirtiest.
>
>Dave

The only ways are direct replies with the live list and new emails with the digest.  The digest certainly doesn't make posting easy but I see no way to alleviate that.  My post was implied to mean that it looked like you figured out the posting mechanism. :-)

Later,
Ken


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:02:58 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying

At 10:56 PM 8/22/00, you wrote:
>Dave it depends on what e-mail application you are using.  I.E. Netscape and
>Outlook you just click on reply and off you go.  Well seeing how you are using
>hotmail, I can see your point there really is no easier way.  What not get an
>account from ford-trucks.com and you can use Netscape or Outlook, or you can
>get a web based e-mail account.

The ford-trucks email accounts are having problems with the latest version of
Internet Explorer.  Seems that Javascript is having problems in this version
and not just on our site.

Ken



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From: "Bob" <xavetarx home.com>
Subject: collection of daily drivers... not really
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 23:23:14 -0400

Michael,

    Do you have a website with all of these beasts on there?  The 77 F250
sounds like my kind of truck.  I'd like to get my 79 Bronco that high some
day.

-bob-

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Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 8:34 AM
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
Subject: [61-79-list] Battery drain


I've had this pro. on 3 trucks every time, after I checked the battery, I
found that the relay for the heater was bad. The best way to check this is
to unhook the large orange wire under your dash just below the glove box.
Hope this helps.
Michael Whittington
77 F250 4X4 20 inches lift 800 horse 429 44 Boggers
75 F100 460
78 Bronco 11 inchs lift stock 351M (I call it modified)44 Gumbos
69 F100 302
85 Bronco 302






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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: List Replying
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:07:52 -0400

at the top left hand corner of my screen it says--  Reply to Author.   All I
do is click on that & it will let you send your reply to the list.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Emerick <djemerick hotmail.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:17 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] List Replying


>Ok....I know I've read this in the past, but seem to forget the proper
>method for replying back on the list.  Some instructions would be most
>appreciated...
>
>Dave
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: bigger tires
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:15:39 -0400

I have seen some trucks of that era around here with the  90's style wheels
& tires on them & they look pretty good.
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From: Rizard209 aol.com <Rizard209 aol.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] bigger tires


>heres the deal .... i have a 1970 f100 everything stock. but i dont like
how
>the tires on it look.. they look to narrow for such a nice truck i wanna
get
>bigger rims and wheels but i dont know whats the biggest size i can put on
>it. any1 have any ideas? any insight would b appreciated
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: 351M Headers for '78 Bronco
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 00:18:33 -0400

I agree with him on the Flowtech Headers.I ordered a set for my 94 F-150
with a 302 in it & they did not even come close to fitting. Had to send them
back & got my money back.
-----Original Message-----
From: GMontgo930 aol.com <GMontgo930 aol.com>
To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:54 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: 351M Headers for '78 Bronco


>In a message dated 8/22/2000 1:49:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>ecfinn yahoo.com writes:
>
><< Thanks for the suggestions.  So far in my research I've found the
> following:
>
> Thorley - nothing
> Hedman - Street #89210
>          Elite #89218
> JBA - nothing
> Sanderson - nothing
> Gibson - nothing
> Hooker - #6832
> Dynomax - Cyclone and Blackjack are now Dynomax but I can't find an
> application guide for their headers.
> Flowtech - Painted #12520 - Ceramic #32520
> Edelbrock - nothing
>
> So it seems as if there are only three (maybe four if Dynomax has
> something) manufacturers that make headers for the 351M/400 for a '78
> Bronco.  That would seem to be an un-tapped market given the number of
> Bronco's I see running around of that vintage.  Oh well.  Thanks for the
> help guys.  Now I just have to see where I can buy these things...  :-)
>  >>
>
>I'd stay away from teh Flowtech's. I got a set on mine, and Im not crazy
>about the fit, quality (holes in the welds NEW!), or the funky path needed
on
>the Dr side pipe. On the plus side they were relativly inexpensive (read
>cheap), and I got what I paid for, kinda sorta anyway!
>
>George M in Fl.
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From: JUMPINFORD aol.com
Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 01:03:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Tweety's gettin parked

In a message dated 00-08-22 13:31:37 EDT, you write:

<< No Darrell, Don't do it! A '71 Stang isn't a jumping Ford! It's a
stay on the ground, go fast, look kewl Ford! Why I'm I even trying. You
and your family are nuts! They'll talk you into a lift kit and then
you'll not be able to stop yourself. Your just like one of those Xgame
fools that loose a spleen or brake a leg then drag their bloody carcass
back to the top of the hill to go again. >:] >>

Yeah, were nuts alright, but the Stang is, and will stay, a cruiser.
Besides, I cant go puttin money into it, if Im tryin to put Tweety together
at the same time.  Only $$ the stang gets is routine lubes, and maybe an
airfreshener on occasion.

Darrell & Tweety

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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Stroker W's
Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 22:29:14 -0700

Thats the one alright.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: <JUMPINFORD aol.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 9:20 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: Stroker W's


> In a message dated 8/22/00 9:18:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> derrar internetcds.com writes:
>
> << Theres a guy on the early Bronco mailing list running an SEFI 423 CI
> Windsor
>  in his Bronco.  He is using a '69 351W block with a .030" overbore.  I'm ....


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