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61-79-list Digest Fri, 18 Aug 2000 Volume: 2000  Issue: 202

In This Issue:
Re: valvetrain upgrades for a 390?
Re: need help with no headlights
: removing body mounts on a 72
Re: Steering Swap
Re: valvetrain upgrades for a 390?
Re: Dana 70 rear?
Re: Hi/lo Horns
Re: Hi/lo Horns
Re: 77 AC Max position
Re: need help with no headlights
M's, C's and W's.
Re: need help with no headlights
ADMIN: Tough Tales
ADMIN: More...
Retirement
Generate into this
Bronco II
Vacation
Re: M's, C's and W's.
Re: Bronco II
Re: Bronco II
Re: M's, C's and W's.
Re: M's, C's and W's.

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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: valvetrain upgrades for a 390?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:10:34 -0400

Contact  Ford Motorsports (or whatever they call themselves now) or Dove
Manufacturing. They will be able to set you up with some roller rockers.
-----Original Message-----
From: wish <wish ford-trucks.net>
To: perf-list ford-trucks.com <perf-list ford-trucks.com>;
61-79-list ford-trucks.com <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 10:51 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: valvetrain upgrades for a 390?


>>What kind of valvetrain upgrades are available for a 390? Mine is all
stock
>now. Absolutely nothing wrong with it the way it is, but are there any
upgrades
>out there that will help me pick up some power?
>>
>
>I was on the Carroll Shelby site (www.carrolshelby.com I think) and noticed
>they had some nice new light weight roller rockers, they were VERY
tempting,
>but didn't see any pricing info on it yet ... might check with them, and if
>you find out, lemme know :)
>
>Just my $.02
>wish
>
>96 Mustang GT 5spd 4.6L
>73ish 1/2ton 4x4   6.4L
>http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.public.iastate.edu/~wish
>
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From: "Tim and Pam Allgire" <tim-pam williams-net.com>
Subject: Re: need help with no headlights
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 00:28:59 -0400

I would wiggle the wires where they go into the plug on the back of the
switch first. I had this same trouble with the tail lights on my '82 one
time. some times they would work & other times they wouldn't. I found out
which wires were loose & I unplugged the plug then I took needle nose pliers
&  bent (twisted ) the contact  ever so slightly so it would make better
with the female part of the plug & it worked great after that. If that
doesn't work,then try another switch.
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe <shoman p3.net>
To: ford trucklist61-79 <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Date: Friday, August 18, 2000 6:45 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] need help with no headlights


>group,
>
>the 61 f-250 4x4 i'm looking at , has only 1 problem so far that i've
>seen, when i pull on the headlights, the amber lights come on but no
>headlights...bulbs are good...
>where should i start for fixing???headlight switch????
>joe
>
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From: "Pat" <patsplace aisl.bc.ca>
Subject: : removing body mounts on a 72
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:42:48 -0700

   Howdy,
   I've never taken the body mounts or stand-off's from a '72 frame but I
just took some off both 78 and 79 frames. Grind the rivets flush with the
frame and use a 1/4 or 3/8 punch and drive them out. I redrilled the holes
to 1/2" and am bolting it together.Not much to it. Yup, take all the good
bits and pieces.

Murphy does say in the great book of Murphy that: "What ever ye shall leave
when ye send the mortal remains to the scrap yard, so shall ye need that
exact thing"
Pat.
Patsplace
77 F250 4X4
78 F150 W/Overloads
72 Ranger parts truck
79 F250 4X4 (Dream Truck Under Construction)


    Anybody know how to remove the body mounts off of the frame? I would
reallyh
like to keep the set that are the 72 I stripped out, as they are in better
shape than the mounts on my 70....

Michael Kaczmar
Detroit, MI









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From: "John Webster" <jwebster primeline.net>
Subject: Re: Steering Swap
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 06:34:45 -0400

Thanks to everyone for the input on the '77 to '78 steering swap. Everything
was available but the pitman arm, obsolete item as the dealer said. So it
looks like a call to LMC and a river of tears when I see the exchange rate.
Otherwise I should be out pounding the snot out of the old girl soon. Just
got back my older Holley aluminum valve covers, I was tired of always trying
to keep up the clear coat so I had them ceramic coated. Looks good, I'll let
everyone know if it holds up well after a winter up here.

John
'77 F150 4X4 460/C6/4:11's/33's


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From: "Ted and Sarah Freeman" <oldparts ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: valvetrain upgrades for a 390?
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:34:43 -0400

I have a set from Comp Cams.  Ran about $300 for new shafts and the rockers.
These don't come with the iron stanchions or reinforced ends, but I don't
ever intend on turning that kind of RPM to need the support.  Comp Cams does
sell one for all out racing but comes at a $800 price tag.

-Ted



>
>
>>>What kind of valvetrain upgrades are available for a 390? Mine is all
>stock
>>now. Absolutely nothing wrong with it the way it is, but are there any
>upgrades
>>out there that will help me pick up some power?
>>>
>>
>
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From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:42:17 EDT
Subject: Re: Dana 70 rear?

I will have to pass on the Van rear because I really don't want to swap used
gears.  I just thought that someone had a complete rear laying around.  A
local drag racer setup the 4:88's in my 1979 Bronco (Dana 60 Rear, Dana 44
Front) for $125.00 per rear.  I'll purchase a new set as soon as I road test
the truck.  Thanks Again Girls & Guys!!!   Wayne Grabley

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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:10:03 -0400
From: David Wadson <wadsond air.on.ca>
Subject: Re: Hi/lo Horns

>There was a dual horn option which used a hi and a lo horn.  I think it
>sounds quite excellent and two 'horns' are better than one.

I agree on the sound...much nice and fuller across the tonal range. :-)
However, I've noticed that some trucks have 2 lo horns and you have to
scrounge around a bit to find a hi tone horn. Was there a reason for this
or have people been modifying their horn setup?


David Wadson - wadsond air.on.ca
"PS1" - 79 F100 ...ground into a million pieces.
"PS2" - 78 F100 ...currently alive and kicking.
"PS3" - 79 F150 4x4 ...now what have I gotten myself into...
Thunder Bay, Ontario, Canada



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From: TBeeee aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:08:36 EDT
Subject: Re: Hi/lo Horns

I suspect someone added a second horn without realizing.  I can recall doing
that myself once upon a time and the resulting sound was kinda flat.

Stock Man
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://hometown.aol.com/tbeeee


In a message dated 8/19/2000 9:06:45 AM
Eastern Daylight Time, wadsond air.on.ca writes:

> I agree on the sound...much nice and fuller across the tonal range. :-)
>  However, I've noticed that some trucks have 2 lo horns and you have to
>  scrounge around a bit to find a hi tone horn. Was there a reason for this
>  or have people been modifying their horn setup?

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 09:53:44 EDT
Subject: Re: 77 AC Max position

I'll need to check out my 79 Bronco. I Know that there is no detent on the
temp control lever. Hasent been one there int he last 16 years anyway. As for
the doors working and recirculating, well, I havent been using he air much in
mine and it no longer works well (tepid but not cold air, not bad for never
having a recharge!), so I havent paid much attention to them.

My Bronco just plain has allot of volume to cool down weather it be in Tx
(where I got it) or down here in Fl (where it & I are now). It doesnt make
sense to engauge the air unless Im making a trip with some length to it. Now,
Im thinking about getting the rear AC unit from a econoline van (like my 92
has) and using in the rear to help out.

anyway, she's still mine and I love it!


George M in FL.

In a message dated 8/18/2000 1:40:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jlagrone ford-trucks.com writes:

<< The recirculate position on my 79 factory unit is
engaged when you push the Temperature control lever fully to the left. There
is a detent there to let you know when you take it out of recirculate into
fresh air mode. I am not one hundred percent familiar with the doors, but I
believe the door just below the glove box opens up on recirculate and closes
in fresh air. Someone else will have to take over from here. >>

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From: GMontgo930 aol.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:02:52 EDT
Subject: Re: need help with no headlights

Check the Dash Switch, Floor Switch and the witing inbetweed all. The dash
swiitch has a seperate CB for teh headlamps. The floor switch selects the
beams (high and low). So if all are dead, teh most common point would be the
dash switch.

George M in Fl.


In a message dated 8/18/2000 6:39:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, shoman p3.net
writes:

<< he 61 f-250 4x4 i'm looking at , has only 1 problem so far that i've
seen, when i pull on the headlights, the amber lights come on but no
headlights...bulbs are good...
where should i start for fixing???headlight switch????
 >>

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From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
Subject: M's, C's and W's.
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:25:38 +1000

I may be repeating what has already been said, but quoting a paragraph from
Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl:

Another Ford engine that you have probably heard very little about, but
rightfully belongs to the same family (Cleveland), is the 351-M. The "M"
stands for Modified - but not in the way most performance enthusiasts use
the term. After production ceased on the 351 Cleveland, apparently the
Windsor plant was unable to keep up with the customer demand for an engine
of this displacement, so the Ford engineers "modified" the 400 by installing
the 351-W crankshaft into the 400 block.
This gives a 351 cubic inch engine with approx. 1 inch taller decks than the
cleveland, and what must be very long connecting rods or very tall pistons
(we haven't seen inside a 351M).  The engine uses the same intake manifold
as the 400, of only which a 2 bbl has been offered. The 351-M has been in
production since 1975.


The book also has a cronology of Ford engines 1958-78 is anyone is
interested.






John Watson

' 81 351C C6 Aussie Bronco with a big thirst.







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From: sparky2a home.com
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:53:10 -0700
Subject: Re: need help with no headlights


Check for power and ground at the headlight connector, no power and it
could be a dead hi/lo beam switch. The connector should have 3 pins, 1
lo beam power, 1 hi beam power and 1 ground. Cant remember the color
code off the top of my head, seem to vaguely recall black ground, green
hi and yellow lo but that is just a guess. However the pin on the bottom
is the ground and the hi/lo pins are next to each other above it.
Then move back to the hi/lo beam switch and check for power going in
and out of it. No power in move back to the headlight switch and check
again.
I just realized we are talking 61 f250 and I am not to familiar with
the the 60's trucks. They do have hi/lo beam switches dont they? Are the
headlights on a different fuse then the amber running lights? Maybe it
is just a blown fuse.

Sparky
73 F250
3?0FE 4x4
definitely not a 351 M W or C :)



> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 18:31:09 -0400
> From: Joe <shoman p3.net>
> Subject: need help with no headlights
>
> group,
>
> the 61 f-250 4x4 i'm looking at , has only 1 problem so far that i've
> seen, when i pull on the headlights, the amber lights come on but no
> headlights...bulbs are good...
> where should i start for fixing???headlight switch????
> joe

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:35:14 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: Tough Tales

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http://www.ford-trucks.com


------------------------------

Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:37:42 -0400
From: Ken Payne <kpayne ford-trucks.com>
Subject: ADMIN: More...

Forgot to mention... the book is in the Apparel and Gifts
section of the store.

Ken Payne
Admin, Ford Truck Enthusiasts
http://www.ford-trucks.com


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Retirement
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:44:32 -0500


Gary writes:  >>How's that retirement coming
along bud?<<

Couldn't be better..  It is everything it is hyped up to be and
maybe more.  I'm in L O V E with it.
Good to hear from you.  As you can tell I;'m about 10 days behind
but I'll eventually catch up.
Congrats on your upcoming retirement.  Hope you enjoy it as I do.
Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Generate into this
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:48:25 -0500


John LaG. writes:  >>How did Flareside vs stepside ever degenerate into this?)<<

I threw a punch at Tony M in a very Jokingly manner and it all turned into this..
Sorry about that.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Bronco II
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:54:27 -0500


Does the Bronco II and the Rangers of same years share drive trains??
Are any of the front body parts interchangeable as with the F series and
Fullsize Broncos of same years??
Are the gearboxes and transfer cases strong enough to accept a stock 351W's torque??
I'm looking at an '87 BII 4X4 with V6.  What is the cuin of the V6 and is it a reliable eng. ??
I haven't opened the hood yet. (didn't want to show too much interest) Is it EFI?? or Carb??

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
Subject: Vacation
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 15:58:17 -0500


Gary writes:  >>How the heck does a retired guy go on vacation.........he's already on vacation :-)<<

But I vacated in a different spot with all my family.  Everyone of them.

Azie Magnusson
Ardmore, Al.


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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: Re: M's, C's and W's.
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 14:46:36 -0700

Yes you are repeating and as Dave R pointed out the 351W and 351M
crankshafts are 2 different animals. A 351M is absolutely NOT a 400 with a
351W crankshaft in it so whatever Mr Ganahl and/or his research staff was
smoking that day must have been some good stuff.

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:25 AM
Subject: [61-79-list] M's, C's and W's.


> I may be repeating what has already been said, but quoting a paragraph
from
> Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl:
>
> Another Ford engine that you have probably heard very little about, but
> rightfully belongs to the same family (Cleveland), is the 351-M. The "M"
> stands for Modified - but not in the way most performance enthusiasts use
> the term. After production ceased on the 351 Cleveland, apparently the
> Windsor plant was unable to keep up with the customer demand for an engine
> of this displacement, so the Ford engineers "modified" the 400 by
installing
> the 351-W crankshaft into the 400 block.
> This gives a 351 cubic inch engine with approx. 1 inch taller decks than
the
> cleveland, and what must be very long connecting rods or very tall pistons
> (we haven't seen inside a 351M).  The engine uses the same intake manifold
> as the 400, of only which a 2 bbl has been offered. The 351-M has been in
> production since 1975.
>
>
> The book also has a cronology of Ford engines 1958-78 is anyone is
> interested.




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From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: Bronco II
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:48:31 -0700

Bronco II's and Rangers share drivetrain parts.  The front clips are
interchangeable.
I don't think the drivetrain would hold up well to a 351.  The later ones
used an 8.8 in the rear (same as the mustang and full size pickups) and a
Dana 35 in the front.
The 87 should have an EFI 2.9, a couple of options with transmissions,
BW13-45 transfer case, 7.5" in the rear, and a Dana 28 in the front.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Azie L. Magnusson" <maggie11 HiWAAY.net>
To: <perf-list ford-trucks.com>; <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 1:54 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Bronco II


>
> Does the Bronco II and the Rangers of same years share drive trains??
> Are any of the front body parts interchangeable as with the F series and
> Fullsize Broncos of same years??
> Are the gearboxes and transfer cases strong enough to accept a stock
351W's torque??
> I'm looking at an '87 BII 4X4 with V6.  What is the cuin of the V6 and is
it a reliable eng. ??
> I haven't opened the hood yet. (didn't want to show too much interest) Is
it EFI?? or Carb??
>
> Azie Magnusson
> Ardmore, Al.
>
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Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:19:00 -0500
From: Stu Varner <nukegm ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: Bronco II

>> I'm looking at an '87 BII 4X4 with V6.  What is the cuin of the V6 and is
>it a reliable eng. ??
>> I haven't opened the hood yet. (didn't want to show too much interest) Is
>it EFI?? or Carb??

Azie,

The Bronco/truck V-6 cylinder heads were notorious for cracking due to poor
casting.  Go to a boneyard today and see if you can find a good
set......it's doubtful you will find any.  Everyone else has already bought
them to repair their engines.  87 models "should" be fuel injected as I
don't remember hearing of any 87 and newer
light duty Fords coming with carbs........Things are very foggy for me
anymore so I may be telling a lie on this
issue.....anyone else??

Glad to see you were not "lunch" for a shark while at the Gulf.  Email me
off list when you get ready to head to West Tennessee.  8^)

Stu
Nuke GM!
http://www.ford-trucks.com/~nukegm (IT IS FOR SALE!!)

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From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
Subject: Re: M's, C's and W's.
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 19:07:17 -0700

Um...no...he didn't. Re-read the post, it says the 400 was "modified" by
installing a 351W crankshaft which isn't case...

"If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Cc: <bbeyer99 home.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: [61-79-list] Re: M's, C's and W's.


> He did say the 351W crank was modified.
>
>
> John
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
> To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 7:46 AM
> Subject: [61-79-list] Re: M's, C's and W's.
>
>
> > Yes you are repeating and as Dave R pointed out the 351W and 351M
> > crankshafts are 2 different animals. A 351M is absolutely NOT a 400 with
a
> > 351W crankshaft in it so whatever Mr Ganahl and/or his research staff
was
> > smoking that day must have been some good stuff.
> >
> > "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
> > To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:25 AM
> > Subject: [61-79-list] M's, C's and W's.
> >
> >
> > > I may be repeating what has already been said, but quoting a paragraph
> > from
> > > Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl:
> > >
> > > Another Ford engine that you have probably heard very little about,
but
> > > rightfully belongs to the same family (Cleveland), is the 351-M. The
"M"
> > > stands for Modified - but not in the way most performance enthusiasts
> use
> > > the term. After production ceased on the 351 Cleveland, apparently the
> > > Windsor plant was unable to keep up with the customer demand for an
> engine
> > > of this displacement, so the Ford engineers "modified" the 400 by
> > installing
> > > the 351-W crankshaft into the 400 block.
> > > This gives a 351 cubic inch engine with approx. 1 inch taller decks
than
> > the
> > > cleveland, and what must be very long connecting rods or very tall
> pistons
> > > (we haven't seen inside a 351M).  The engine uses the same intake
> manifold
> > > as the 400, of only which a 2 bbl has been offered. The 351-M has been
> in
> > > production since 1975.
> > >




------------------------------

From: "Jason Derra" <derrar internetcds.com>
Subject: Re: M's, C's and W's.
Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:45:01 -0700

I think we all realize that the M cranks were based off of the 351W design
(Large journal, 28 oz internal balance)  The main difference between the 2
is the crank snout dimensions.
Jason
'69 Bronco 5.0 HO EFI, NP435
'96 F250 Ext Cab 4WD Powerstroke E4OD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
To: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
Cc: "61-79 List" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:07 PM
Subject: [61-79-list] Re: M's, C's and W's.


> Um...no...he didn't. Re-read the post, it says the 400 was "modified" by
> installing a 351W crankshaft which isn't case...
>
> "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
> To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> Cc: <bbeyer99 home.com>
> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 7:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [61-79-list] Re: M's, C's and W's.
>
>
> > He did say the 351W crank was modified.
> >
> >
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Beyer" <bbeyer99 home.com>
> > To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 7:46 AM
> > Subject: [61-79-list] Re: M's, C's and W's.
> >
> >
> > > Yes you are repeating and as Dave R pointed out the 351W and 351M
> > > crankshafts are 2 different animals. A 351M is absolutely NOT a 400
with
> a
> > > 351W crankshaft in it so whatever Mr Ganahl and/or his research staff
> was
> > > smoking that day must have been some good stuff.
> > >
> > > "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, riddle them with bullets"
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Watson" <johnw illawarramercury.com>
> > > To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2000 3:25 AM
> > > Subject: [61-79-list] M's, C's and W's.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I may be repeating what has already been said, but quoting a
paragraph
> > > from
> > > > Ford Performance by Pat Ganahl:
> > > >
> > > > Another Ford engine that you have probably heard very little about,
> but
> > > > rightfully belongs to the same family (Cleveland), is the 351-M. The
> "M"
> > > > stands for Modified - but not in the way most performance
enthusiasts
> > use
> > > > the term. After production ceased on the 351 Cleveland, apparently
the
> > > > Windsor plant was unable to keep up with the customer demand for an
> > engine
> > > > of this displacement, so the Ford engineers "modified" the 400 by
> > > installing
> > > > the 351-W crankshaft into the 400 block.
> > > > This gives a 351 cubic inch engine with approx. 1 inch taller decks
> than
> > > the
> > > > cleveland, and what must be very long connecting rods or very tall
> > pistons
> > > > (we haven't seen inside a 351M).  The engine uses the same intake
> > manifold
> > > > as the 400, of only which a 2 bbl has been offered. The 351-M has
been
> > in ....


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