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From: owner-61-79-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V4 #1 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Monday, January 3 2000 Volume 04 : Number 001 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission FTE 61-79 - Gessford Machine FTE 61-79 - Truck Use survey Re: FTE 61-79 - answers to survey Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission FTE 61-79 - E-brake FTE 61-79 - Re:To EGR or not to EGR FTE 61-79 - fuel pump woes Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission FTE 61-79 - Vacuum probs/diagrams for 400M (long) FTE 61-79 - Re: T-case parking brake ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:08:17 -0600 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission At 08:49 PM 1/1/00 -0800, you wrote: >I have noticed there has been some recent discussion of 5 speed >transmissions and having done some research into this recently for a >customer ( I work for a performance oriented machine shop), I can tell you >that this is possible if you have an FE. Please tell us more!!! I wanna know how it turns out! I have seen Tremec TKO trannies run between 1400 to 1500 bucks new at some Mustang speed shops. Dunno the ratings of them and it they would handle the torque of an FE. They are a direct replacement for the Borg Warner T-5 I am sure. Don't the T-5 and T-56 have the same bolt pattern? Couldn't a person then use the T-56 which is a 6 speed and is listed here in a rag with two different torque ratings, one of 440 ft pounds and one that can handle 550 ft pounds. Cost there would be between 2300 and 3000 bucks. hhmmmm, Wish, you are up on the Mustangs....whadda ya think?? Will it work?? Mcleod clutch offers an adapter >plate that when used with a Lakewood scattershield bellhousing allows you to >use a Tremec TKO 5 speed trans behind the FE engines. I don't know enough >about the trans to say weather or not it will hold up to heavy duty usage >(towing ,ect..) though. We will be trying this setup in a '66 Galaxy with a >very healthy 390 in the near future as Please make sure you fully document all the details so we can have this info for future reference! Thanks! Stu Nuke GM! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 08:15:52 -0600 From: ballingr bootheel.net Subject: FTE 61-79 - Gessford Machine : http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://gessford.com/cobraparts/fflywhee.htm This is where I got this info as well. Like I said earlier I don't know alot about these transmissions, I believe they were used in some newer applications (maybe someone out there can confirm this) but they are available new as well. Although I'm sure they're not cheap though. Best Regards, Steve Salas >>> That's George and Josie Anderson's shop up in Nebraska. Fine people, and they won't steer you wrong. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jan 1980 10:50:21 -0500 From: davewild tc3net.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use survey > 1. What year and model truck do you have? 1978 F150 Custom 2wd ,300 staight six ,3 on the tree > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > components but needs work. Bought the truck in 97' had 120K miles on it, NO RUST although had small electrical problem( stuff inside the cab would just shut off) was just the engine mounts broke and pulled the ground strap off of the cab. Otherwise as stock as they get > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? I live in MI and go to school and stay in IN during the week, This truck had 120K miles on it when I bought it now it has 180K and still counting. This truck has only left me stuck twice in the 2 3/4 yrs. I have owned it, once the started cracked in half , second the clutch fork pivot in the bell housing broke. Trust it to go anywhere. I use it to pull my 19' travel trailer up and back from Northern MI. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:25:10 EST From: Bad4dFilly aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - answers to survey In a message dated 12/31/1999 2:18:16 AM !!!First Boot!!!, IanBoss69 aol.com writes: << WOW! Another chick on the list? AWESOME!!!! > > *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* > *~*~Silly boys...trucks are for girls!~*~* > > P.S. I meant "chick" with the utmost respect! =P you're willing to share all of the guys' attention lisa? >> NO WAY JOSE! I may be a lil jealous here! *pout* he!he! *~*~Lisa and Envy~*~* *~*~SIlly boys...trucks are for GIRLS!~*~* == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:12:21 -0800 (PST) From: canzus seanet.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission At 08:49 PM 1:1:00 -0800, Steven Salas wrote: Snippage... >Mcleod clutch offers an adapter >plate that when used with a Lakewood scattershield bellhousing allows you to >use a Tremec TKO 5 speed trans behind the FE engines. IIRC, thats the unit they used behind the 5.8L(351W) Cobra R's. > I don't know enough >about the trans to say weather or not it will hold up to heavy duty usage >(towing ,ect..) though. We will be trying this setup in a '66 Galaxy with a >very healthy 390 in the near future as the above mentioned customer has >already bought most of the parts necessary (including the adapter which I >currently have in my possesion... :). According to the FMS catalog, they will put up with 350 ft/lbs torque, Not exactly what I'd want behind a 390 with a little snort... Steve & the Rockette 68 F100, 390cid, FMX 63 F100, 292cid, 3speed 72 Capri 2000, hers 73 Capri 2600,tube frame going in..... 73 MGB GT, Our Toy 94 SHO, SWMBO's 98 Contour SVT, Mine, Mine, All Mine.... == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 10:10:01 -0800 From: "S.Harkema" Subject: FTE 61-79 - E-brake >It had a driveshaft drum brake for a parking brake. As long as >the wheels were on the ground it locked the transmission and the rear >wheels I must have missed the original thread on this.We used to have a F-500 w/T-18 that had a drum parking brake on the out put shaft. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:06:35 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Lee Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re:To EGR or not to EGR Ed, If you go to a non-EGR manifold, you will need a carb for a non-EGR motor. Or you will need a 600CFM Holley or Edelbrock(preferred), that is jetted for non-EGR. The reason is that the carb must be jetted richer for a non-EGR motor. I have a 400 w/ an Edelbrock Performer manifold and a Carter 750 CFM carb, no EGR. They only other thing to worry about is the smog police. Dan Lee '53 F100 400C-4V >Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:10:57 EST >From: SMOKEY5209 aol.com>Subject: FTE 61-79 - To EGR or not to EGR >I am in the process of rebuilding a 400 V-8 and was >looking into an intake manifold. There are EGR and >non-EGR models. Is there a way to use the non-EGR >model on the 400 even though it came from a later >model truck. Without the EGR what changes would I have >to make. What are the advantages and disadvantages? >Thanks in Advance >Ed __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://messenger.yahoo.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:55:24 -0600 From: "John LaGrone" Subject: FTE 61-79 - fuel pump woes >> Did the pump crack? If not how did it pump gas into the crankcase? Please explain, for I am quite confused..... Brad<< Brad, It was the original fuel pump. Either the area where the diaphragm attaches to the case deteriorated or the diaphragm ruptured or cracked. From the outside, the old fuel pump looked perfectly normal. Pat, thanks for the timely answer to Brad's question. I have been on vacation for two weeks, thus my slow response. - -- John jlagrone ford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry) http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm Dearborn iron rules!!!! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 15:43:57 -0500 From: "John F. Bauer III" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission >Don't the T-5 and T-56 have the same bolt pattern? >Couldn't a person then use the T-56 which is a 6 speed and >is listed here in a rag with two different torque ratings, one of 440 ft >pounds and one that can handle 550 ft pounds. >Cost there would be between 2300 and 3000 bucks. My research has the T-5 as having a different bolt pattern than the Ford 3spd, 4spd, NP435, etc. The top two bolts line up with the stock bellhousing, but the bottom two are approx 1.5" towards each other from where the holes in the bellhousing are located. I personally brought my bellhousing to a yard that had a T-5 pulled from a mustang. The input shafts (part that goes through the clutch disc and into the pilot bearing) were of different lengths and the number of "teeth" for the clutch disc were more numerous on the T-5. The circular hole that the trans inserts into in the bellhousings are also different sizes, T-5 being smaller. Just passing this on from a one time inspection of the use of a T-5 in my van. BTW, the T-5 just looks pretty darn whimpy when I got a good look at it. A site that seems to have some experience with putting Tremecs and T-X trans into mustangs is www.darkhorseperformance.com. I do not work for them and haven't ordered anything from them, just spoke with a guy on the phone who didn't hang up on me when I said I was looking to put a 5 speed man. in my Ford van ... John == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:59:28 -0800 From: "Jeff Norville" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Vacuum probs/diagrams for 400M (long) Howdy, and Happy 1900: First, THANKS to all for your help, input and patience as I swapped motors in my 79 Bronco; all-stock carb, motor, hd clutch, etc. is (mostly) working great. Did the cam break-in just before New Years and have been driving it a little since then... Lots more power, less smoke, whew. BUT: The vacuum hoses don't seem to be routed correctly. The original owner mentioned that he had "improved" the performance by re routing some of them - - and replacing a temperature valve with a plug, etc... The thing will just not idle correctly. Yes, carb was factory set, playing with mixtures didn't improve anything (had a knowledgeable mechanic friend help out here), idle is even set high to prevent from stalling. The only thing I have come up with so far is the vacuum advance to the dizzy seems to be constantly applied through the current hose; don't know which hose should be on there, probably the one from the temperature valve that's gone... And the carb port labelled 'E' is plugged, which seems wrong. The new vacuum gauge mounted on my dash (nifty FTE suggestion) reads low; idles around 16, runs (~2400 rpm) at 10 - 11 in Hg. Think that should be 20 and 16 respectively, right? But I have plugged the leaks (I think) ... I have systematically replaced vac hoses and made sure everything matched the "original" setup as per masking tape; I can't seem to find a matching diagram in Chiltons, though. Next step will be to test all valves, then try re routing vac hoses to match something in the book. Sound like the thing to do? Any quicker fixes? Other question: old carb had a plug under the choke for a wire to the dash - new carb's choke doesn't have any place to plug in the wire, though the carb is otherwise identical... Doesn't seem to be a likely cause of the rough idle as it happens whether motor is cold or warm. Thanks again. Sorry for the long post. Jeff 79 Bronco 400M 4spd == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 20:52:14 -0600 (CST) From: Rubberducky23 webtv.net (Danny Ling)Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: T-case parking brake Older Jeep CJ's that use the Dana/Spicer model 18 transfer case came with the rear driveshaft mounted, drum parking brake also. (my 48 Willys CJ2A had one).I bet they will be more plentiful and easier to find than classic car stuff. Laters, Danny Ling == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list-digest V4 #1 ****************************** +----- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 though 1979 Trucks And Vans -----+ | Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+.... 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