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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - vacuum tuning
FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING
Re: FTE 61-79 - New 73-79 catalog - Free
Re: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING
FTE 61-79 - transfer case brake
FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF
FTE 61-79 - fuel pump woes
RE: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING
FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cutlass supreme)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Various
FTE 61-79 - To EGR or not to EGR
Re: FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cutlass supreme)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas sCrap law
Re: FTE 61-79 - To EGR or not to EGR
Re: FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cut...
FTE 61-79 - Re: 73-79 Catalog - Free
FTE 61-79 - Survey
FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission
FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 10:49:08 -0500
From: "Larry Coffman" defnet.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - vacuum tuning

A while back, someone posted either an article or an address about tuning
with a vacuum gauge. anyone still have that? I seem to have misplaced it and
the ol` 66 needs a little help!

Larry Coffman
coffman defnet.com
66 F-100

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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:21:27 CST
From: "Luke Phillips" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING

What was the first year FORD offered power steering for the 240 300 I6?
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 13:27:21 EST
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - New 73-79 catalog - Free

In a message dated 1/1/2000 1:08:58 AM EST, DRVNDBUS aol.com writes:

<< i am interested in obtaining a new catalog for the year of 2000 . thanks
for
the email

77 ford f100
drvndbusaol.com >>


I'm thinking that the autokrafters guy wanted those who are
interested in recieving a 2000 73-79 catalog to e-mail their request to
www. autokrafters.com
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:21:02 EST
From: TBeeeeaol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING

In a message dated 1/1/00 1:24:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lukes67fordhotmail.com writes:

> What was the first year FORD offered power steering for the 240 300 I6?

Aweful good question Luke. I don't know right off. I assume you are
searching for a PS set-up to add to your truck. I will say this...the 240
was first introduced in 1965 along with the 300. The 240 was last used in
trucks for the 1974 model year. Of course the 300 continued for many years.
PS was first available as a factory option starting in 1966; however, I
believe it was available as a dealer installed option prior to that.
Regardless, I would think that
1965 would have to be the earliest truck you could salvage one from since
that is the first year of the 240.

I hope this helps.

Thom
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Date: Tue, 28 Dec 1999 21:38:02 -0600
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - transfer case brake

Ox and Gary,
My first car was a 1961 Chrysler Newport with a pushbutton automatic
transmission. It had a driveshaft drum brake for a parking brake. As long as
the wheels were on the ground it locked the transmission and the rear
wheels. Lots of Mopars of this approximate vintage had a similar setup. If
you find one, it might give some clues about how to fabricate or imitate. I
can see all sorts of possibilities with a separate brake for the front and
rear or maybe between the transmission and the transfer case.

- -- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 15:36:57 -0600
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Dexron vs Ford ATF

>> Faster (read harder) shifts cause less wear. Smooth shifts mean there is
slippage between<<

Brad, George,

No, not in an auto, not at street speeds. The harshness of the shift in a
properly assembled automatic has to do with the clutches all right, but not
the bands. Each clutch is an assembly of alternating metal and friction
material rings, some notched on the inside, some on the outside. The first
metal ring determines the harshness of the shift. A smooth shifting
transmission has a first ring made with waves. A harsh shifting transmission
will have a flat first ring. There is the same amount of slippage in the
clutch either way at street speeds or the slippage is negligible. A harsh
shift will slam your other drive train components unnecessarily IMHO. In
reverse, all bands and clutches are engaged. In low, all are engaged but
one. As you up shift, something releases each time. A band never engages to
cause an up shift and generally only causes the low range unit to engage
which usually means you are stopped or going very slow. In high gear on a
1:1 automatic, all clutches and bands are released. Racing or performance
transmissions are another matter.

- -- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
Dearborn iron rules!!!!
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 18:16:41 -0600
From: "John LaGrone" ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - fuel pump woes

I decided on the Carter, Federal-Mogul lifetime warranty fuel pump from
O'Reilly Auto Parts (formerly HiLo). It cost $24.95 plus tax. I had no
problems with the replacement. I changed the oil and filter, greased the
front end and drive shaft, checked the big nut on the differential, replaced
all of the rubber fuel line, made sure the fuel line was not running too
close to any hot surfaces, tightened the rocker arm covers, vacuumed the
inside (well... it seemed like the thing to do at the time). Phew!!

I was expecting to crank and crank to get fuel back to the carb. Turned the
key and it fired right up. My oil pressure is back. The stinking odor was
the thinned oil running from the rocker arm cover onto the passenger side of
the Y pipe just beyond the manifold.

I think that my Havoline 30 wt. and the STP Oil Treatment saved my engine
from major damage. Although the oil was thinned, it took forever for the
crankcase to drain fully. It had to be the STP retaining its syrupy
consistency. I got about 9 quarts of fluid out of the crankcase instead of
the usual 5 1/2 to 6. The gasoline had mixed fully with the oil. The
experience I had in the mid 70s in an FE with Pennzoil yielded gasoline and
oil separated in the crank case.

Henry's favorite song, by Texan Willie Nelson: On The Road Again.........

Took Henry to town and back awhile ago. It looks like everything is pretty
much back to normal. Only time will tell for sure.

- -- John
jlagroneford-trucks.com <]:-) <]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)<]:-)
1979 F150 Custom, Long Wide Bed, Regular Cab, 351M, C6 (Henry)
http://www.ford-trucks.com/jlagrone/henry.home.htm
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 11:33:48 -0800
From: "Southerland, Rich" alldata.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING

We got the entire P/S setup for my in-law's '67 F100 240-6 off of a '72 F100
with a 300-6. We did not do the installation, (my ex-brother in law did)
but AFAIK, everything bolted up w/no problems.

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From: TBeeeeaol.com [mailto:TBeeeeaol.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2000 11:21 AM
To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - POWER STEERING


In a message dated 1/1/00 1:24:40 PM Eastern Standard Time,
lukes67fordhotmail.com writes:

> What was the first year FORD offered power steering for the 240 300 I6?

Aweful good question Luke. I don't know right off. I assume you are
searching for a PS set-up to add to your truck. I will say this...the 240
was first introduced in 1965 along with the 300. The 240 was last used in
trucks for the 1974 model year. Of course the 300 continued for many years.

PS was first available as a factory option starting in 1966; however, I
believe it was available as a dealer installed option prior to that.
Regardless, I would think that
1965 would have to be the earliest truck you could salvage one from since
that is the first year of the 240.

I hope this helps.

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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 1999 18:58:00 -0600
From: "Daniel R. Olinick" freewwweb.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cutlass supreme)

Today I went down to the local salvage yard to get a
power window switch for my '87 olds. While I was there
I picked up some stuff for my '71 f100. I got the parts for
my wiper's washer. I found a washer fluid resivour(egad spelling?)
and some rubber hoses and sprayers. Well I hooked up the
wires to the pump and it works. I just don't know how or if I can
connect it to the wiper switch. I plan to just ad a momentary switch
so I can spray my cracked windshield at will. There are plenty of
wires and splices all over the place I don't know what they were for.

I also found an original chrome ring for "cargo" lights. I also saw the
chrome bracket for an am/radio. I want to save these things but
I know I will never have a use for them. I know someone else will
but I can't buy everything I see. If you have a 67-71 you know how
the lights, wipers, cig-lighter, have a little chrome ring around them.
If you want the little ring which says "cargo" I will mail it to you. I
bought
it! I always see a few of these trucks at salvage yards. Today I found
an air conditioning vent system with fan. I also saw one with a power
steering
pump. Another had this strange little metal device which mounted under
where
the carb used to be and was connected to the heater hoses(or radiator).
I hate to leave these things behind but I have no use for them. What is
that?
Is it the thing you have been writing about to heat the intake gasses?

One thing I cannot find is a jack. I want an original jack. If I am
correct it
is supposed to mount on the drivers side fender under the hood. I always
see a bracket there but nothing in it.

sorry about this ramble but I like going to the local salvage yards(San
Antonio, TX)
and hate to see good trucks (parts) go to waste.

Daniel R. Olinick (dolinickearthlink.net) (dolinickhotmail.com)
(dolinickfreewwweb.com)

p.s. actually I stuck the little chrome "cargo" ring in my pocket. I didn't
pay for it. :(


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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:18:15 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco USWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Various

Go to a good muffler shop, they will help you with the H pipe.. had it
done to mine, it sure evens out the exhaust.
Mike in Burien
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:10:57 EST
From: SMOKEY5209aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - To EGR or not to EGR

I am in the process of rebuilding a 400 V-8 and was looking into an intake
manifold. There are EGR and non-EGR models. Is there a way to use the non-EGR
model on the 400 even though it came from a later model truck. Without the
EGR what changes would I have to make. What are the advantages and
disadvantages?
Thanks in Advance
Ed
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 14:16:44 -0700
From: "Michael White" csolutions.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cutlass supreme)

> One thing I cannot find is a jack. I want an original jack. If I am
> correct it
> is supposed to mount on the drivers side fender under the hood. I always
> see a bracket there but nothing in it.
>
> Daniel R. Olinick (dolinickearthlink.net) (dolinickhotmail.com)
> (dolinickfreewwweb.com)
........

I got tired of looking at the empty bracket on my 69 F250, so I bought a
bottleneck jack (with threaded neck for height adjustment) and mounted it on
the inside of the drivers fender. The new jack was larger in diameter than
the original, so I had to upgrade the mounting bracket to include a longer
piece of 1/4" allthread in order to get the wing nut into place .If memory
serves correctly the original jack does not have the threaded portion on the
neck to allow for height adjustment. Why settle for a 30 year old stock jack
that is not "user friendly", when you can buy a new one for about $20 that
is?


Michael White
dangercsolutions.net


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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:36:30 EST
From: GMontgo930aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Texas sCrap law

Man I sure hate hearing about those Smog Nazi's and their plans. Ive got my
'79 and have no Idea how she'd fair in an emmisions test & am thankfull I
live in the swamps of central Fl. and dont have to mess with them. We've only
got a few counties that do (Tampa Bay, and Jacksonville area's as far as I
know). I guess somday I could take a road trip and get it smog tested to see
where Im at and weather I need to install a pair of Cats again (The origional
owner pulled them and installed duals, a Texas thing I observed from when I
was out there). I still prefer to be left alone till it's old enough not to
bother with!

George

In a message dated 12/31/99 7:16:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, patbsonic.net
writes:

> Brett asks:
> >
> > Pat,
> > Since we're about to feel California smog laws up our Texas Tailpipe,
> > how exactly does this '73 cutoff work? Is this year set in stone?
> > Or is this some sort of a sliding window, where each year they
> > only test back 27 years?
>
> This was created a couple of years back. It is fixed until 2004,
> when it will become a rolling 30 year limit. I figure I'll ask
> dad for his '78 F250 (~50k miles) in 2008 :-)
>
> > Secondly, how about those mobile smog sniffers they place
> > along the freeway? If you zip by in your stock '70 F100 it obviously
> > makes the machine go "TILT". Do they send you a nastigram in the
> > mail? Ticket? Dispatch a Smog Nazi to arrest you?
>
> So far, these have been used on a trial basis only, IIRC in
> San Diego (City?/County?), and perhaps elswhere in that other
> state of Southern California. Although the federales have
> blackmailed the state heavilly (threatening hiway funds cutoff),
> the legislature has resisted, instead choosing to look into a
> sort of "Car Welfare", where the state will assist those that
> cannot afford a new car, or even to fix thier old. The studies
> so far indicate it will cost the state less to fix gross polluters
> than to crush them, thus sending the owners to the unemployment
> lines. Crushing DOES still happen, but I don't believe it is
> very common with the outcry that accompanied the original plan.
>
> > Oh, I love Merc outboards, too. Are they completely banned or what?
>
> Two-strokes are being banned from the states lakes, as MTBE
> is spreading through the system. Lake Tahoe is the most
> notable I can think of, as of last spring/summer. Sales of
> two strokes will be banned soon, but manufacturers already
> have four cycle alternatives available. I'm not sure if anyone
> will actually have to throw away older stuff right away, but
> eventually they will have a hard time finding a legal lake to
> run it on. MTBE itself is on the hit list, but the last time
> I looked it seemed like it's going to take longer to get rid
> of it than it than it took to implement it.
>
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:42:26 EST
From: GMontgo930aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - To EGR or not to EGR

Ed

I'll just tell ya what Ive done. Im sure others can give you more details.
Ive got an intake (non egr) installed on my 400 along woth a Holly 600. I
chose it cause my egr setup had been pluged for may thousands of miles and
she was still running fine. It made it one less thing to mess with and
maintain which Im all for. Now their is an emmisions impact with leaving it
off and I think the NOX will be higher.

I guess it boils down to this - It's nor absolutly needed to run and run
well. But if your in a smog regulated area, your probibly gonna need it.

George M

In a message dated 1/1/00 4:14:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
SMOKEY5209aol.com writes:

> I am in the process of rebuilding a 400 V-8 and was looking into an intake
> manifold. There are EGR and non-EGR models. Is there a way to use the non-
> EGR
> model on the 400 even though it came from a later model truck. Without the
> EGR what changes would I have to make. What are the advantages and
> disadvantages?
> Thanks in Advance
> Ed
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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 16:53:27 EST
From: GMontgo930aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - washer and misc details for 67-71 trucks (and my '87 olds cut...

In a message dated 1/1/00 4:18:17 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dangercsolutions.net writes:

>
> > One thing I cannot find is a jack. I want an original jack. If I am
> > correct it
> > is supposed to mount on the drivers side fender under the hood. I always
> > see a bracket there but nothing in it.
> >
> > Daniel R. Olinick (dolinickearthlink.net) (dolinickhotmail.com)
> > (dolinickfreewwweb.com)
> ........
>
> I got tired of looking at the empty bracket on my 69 F250, so I bought
a
> bottleneck jack (with threaded neck for height adjustment) and mounted it
on
> the inside of the drivers fender. The new jack was larger in diameter than
> the original, so I had to upgrade the mounting bracket to include a longer
> piece of 1/4" allthread in order to get the wing nut into place .If memory
> serves correctly the original jack does not have the threaded portion on
the
> neck to allow for height adjustment. Why settle for a 30 year old stock
jack
> that is not "user friendly", when you can buy a new one for about $20 that
> is?
>
>

But look at the conversation factor involved with the stock jack, tire iron &
crank handle! I'd bet in a few years that a lot of people wont know what one
of the stock jacks look like! Ive still got mine in my Bronco and it's never
been used except to hide the magnetic can opener I carry to open oil cans
(now talk about an antique). I use the bottle jack stashed in my emergency
kit in the back for the few times I've needed it. Here at the house theirs
always the rolling floor jack - 5 pumps and the whole front is off the
ground! Fast and easy, but also a bit to heavy to carry in the field!

$1.295 worth from
George M
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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 18:38:11 -0500
From: "Ronald D. Miller" shentel.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: 73-79 Catalog - Free

Email address for free truck parts catalog is akraftshentel.net

web address is www.autokrafters.com

> From: owner-61-79-list-digestford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest)
> Reply-To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 05:31:12 -0500 (EST)
> To: 61-79-list-digestford-trucks.com
> Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #484
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ronald D. Miller shentel.net>
> To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
> Sent: Friday, December 31, 1999 10:53 AM
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - New 73-79 catalog - Free
>
>
>> We are ready to print our newly revised 2000 catalog covering 73-79
> F-series
>> pickups. Please email me off the list if you would like to have one
> mailed
>> to you when they are ready. If you have purchased from us in the last 18
>> months, (Thanks for your business!) you will get one automatically and do
>> not need to reply. Please specify vehicle when responding. Thanks, Ron
>> Miller Auto Krafters, Inc.
>>
>> P.S. Check out our newly revised website featuring all books and manuals
> at
>> 15% OFF list. Also FREE shipping on any UPS order over $200.00.
>>
> What is your email address?
>
> Brad

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Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 20:22:38 -0500
From: "Sean R. Kerns" choice.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Survey

> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
1970 F-250 4x4. NP205 and C6 auto. Stock engine was a 351M (2-barrel?),

but it was replaced by a previous owner with a 429 4-barrel from a '68
Thunderbird.
Goes like all hell, esp. paired with the 4.10 gears, but it's not very
economical (duh!), and it is very picky about what kind of gas you try
to feed it. Premium only, and convenience store gas is out of the
question. Before I had to get cats put on it to pass Ohio's "E-Check"
program, every once in a while, I'd get some of that Tetraethyl lead
from AutoKrafters once in a while, and let it run like it wanted. It was
a kick.

> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
It's about a "B" right now, hedging on a "C". I've always wanted to do
a really nice restoration of it, but I haven't had the $$$, and I don't
want it to be so pretty I can't haul stuff in it.
> A. Completely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30
feet
> it looks like a new truck.
> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or
bodywork
> before being drivable.

> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

If I had to. It would make it - it's very reliable; but it _is_ a
20-year old 3/4 ton 4x4 pickup truck (and rides like it), gets the kind
of mileage you'd figure it would, and doesn't have any of the creature
comforts like A/C and cruise control that I like to have when I'm
putting in major miles on the interstate.
I do drive it nearly daily, but mostly around town with a little freeway
thrown in.

Sean

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Sean R. Kerns (aka Snake)
e-mail: bpmusicchoice.net
WWW: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.bloodspoint.com/
Spanky: Hit the brakes!!
Buckwheat: Brakes is gone! We's freewheelin!!


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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 20:49:41 -0800
From: "Steven Salas" email.msn.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 5 speed transmission

I have noticed there has been some recent discussion of 5 speed
transmissions and having done some research into this recently for a
customer ( I work for a performance oriented machine shop), I can tell you
that this is possible if you have an FE. Mcleod clutch offers an adapter
plate that when used with a Lakewood scattershield bellhousing allows you to
use a Tremec TKO 5 speed trans behind the FE engines. I don't know enough
about the trans to say weather or not it will hold up to heavy duty usage
(towing ,ect..) though. We will be trying this setup in a '66 Galaxy with a
very healthy 390 in the near future as the above mentioned customer has
already bought most of the parts necessary (including the adapter which I
currently have in my possesion... :). There is a specific clutch and disk
combination necessary to make this work also, but if I remember right its
nothing exotic just an unusual combination of currently available parts. If
anyone is interested, most of the part numbers for this setup are at this
webpage : http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://gessford.com/cobraparts/fflywhee.htm This is where I
got this info as well. Like I said earlier I don't know alot about these
transmissions, I believe they were used in some newer applications (maybe
someone out there can confirm this) but they are available new as well.
Although I'm sure they're not cheap though. Best Regards, Steve
Salas



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Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 23:05:50 -0800
From: Carver ncwebsurfer.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

> 1. What year and model truck do you have?

1964 F100 CrewCab

> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
> it looks like a new truck.

B best describes a truck repaired over the years with no concept that this
truck is a one-of-a-kind. Earl Schieb repainted a few times over 10 years
ago, faded and chalked so it looks closer to the original color! 300K on
the truck, 200K on the motor. Looks like a new truck, ya gotta be kidding,
it looks like it's supposed to look, like an old truck in good shape.

Here's a comment on descriptions. I would describe my truck as having been
repaired where necessary through the years, no attempt at restoration, but
when it got banged, it got fixed, where it bbroke, it got fixed, there are
things that need to be fixed, but it;s still driveable, so it gets driven.
So while not restored, it retains a condition that I describe and a
kept-fixed truck. I only drive it on weekends, due to gas cost, but I use
it as it is
intended, a vehicle to haul stuff and the kids, at the same time.
A charity drop off and a dump run is seen in the very near future.


> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork
> before being drivable.
>
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

Routinely, no, has it in it's past, yes!

Apart from a rear end leak onto the the brakes and a motor with 200K, I would
love to drive to Pigeon Forge, just to let people know an F100 crewcab exists!
Hang the fuel costs, I wanna go! Just gotta convince the SWMBO and kidlings.
oh ya, it can't rain either, windshield leaks, big time, so I don't drive it
in the rain. Found out the hard way . . . . bummer.

Jeff '64 F100 CrewCab



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