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61-79-list-digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 475



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes]
FTE 61-79 - Rust question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
FTE 61-79 - headers?
FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle
FTE 61-79 - Charging System
Re: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes]
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams
FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4
FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck Use Survey 2
FTE 61-79 - 73-79 Long Box For Sale
FTE 61-79 - 460 & C6 FOR SALE
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle
FTE 61-79 - burt in washington
Re: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights"
Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"
Re: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again!
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington
RE: FTE 61-79 - headers?
RE: FTE 61-79 - Rust question
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
RE: FTE 61-79 - Charging System
RE: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again!
RE: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4
Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:04:30 -0500
From: "G.T. Herpich" bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

I don't believe Ford ever installed T-tops on the assembly line. They were done
by an after market company like the early 80s convertibles.
There were big problems with leaks and squeaks not to mention added flex to an
already
too flexible body style with the hatch. I don't know if Ford stopped authorizing
the conversion or the company that did it went out of business but I'd suspect
the former.
To sum it up, a T-top car would most likely be more trouble than it's worth.
There are a lot of sun roof cars out there (factory installed) and they don't
leak if you keep the drains
clear. My '86 Capri has no rust other than around the sun roof. I'm looking for a
solid
roof to replace it.

George



IanBoss69 aol.com wrote:

> Well, I've hit a big ol lump in the road of life. I've recently acquired a
> great new job at a kit car manufacturer semi-near my home. By semi i mean 50
> miles away. Due to this fact my gas bills have gone waaaaaay up. 55 minutes
> at 3500rpm in an M-block doesnt equate to good gas milage. Im filling up
> once every 2 days and at 20 bucks a tank its killing me....soooo, im forced
> to look into other transportation,,,,theres the FTE content,,,,,negative
> content but nonetheless content. Anyways now for you mustang guys....i know
> theres a few out there, I've decided on an 87-90 5.0L LX sedan but I'd love
> it if i could get T-tops also,,,,as i understand it the T-tops were
> discontinued after 87 but i havent got a clear answer as to whether they were
> even available on the sedans. The book I constantly refer to: Mustang Red
> Book says that in 82 they were offered on both body styles but says nothing
> more in any other year until 88 when it says they were discontinued. My
> question is: If there were in fact 87 sedan T-tops made, how rare is this
> car? better yet, how much more expensive are they ? Kelly Blue Book has an
> 87 LX sedan ...with T-tops listed as $3300 which is perfectly in my price
> range,,,but I'm questioning its accuracy,,,so whats your guys' opinions on
> the subject???
>
> Ian
> 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
> True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:56:21 -0500
From: bruce hart golden.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes]

- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: power brakes
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:44:25 -0500
From: bruce hart golden.net>
Reply-To: tripp
Organization: na
To: "61-79-list ford-trucks.com" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>

I want to put power brakes on a 69 F350 with drum brakes all around.I
have the booster and master cylinder but what I need to know is if there
are any modifications to the brake pedal linkage or is this a bolt on
operation.Any help would be appreciated,thanks-Bruce
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:01:16 -0800
From: "Scott Jensen" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rust question

Howdy all,

I took a trip back east recently and saw a few really good deals on
vehicles. Really good, until I looked at the chassis! I've never seen rust
like that. It's a wonder they could still be driven. And I'm talking fairly
new, too. Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on ice and snow,
I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do you guys back
east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work?

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:21:20 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question

In a message dated 12/26/99 10:09:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,
sjensensr worldnet.att.net writes:

> Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on ice and snow,
> I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do you guys back
> east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work?

Sure rub it in why don't you? If you take a look at my page, you''ll see
that the time we have to spend on these old trucks is double what many others
have to spend to get one road-worthy. Rust free in the North East generally
means the frame doesn't look like swiss cheese and the floor pan has only
been patched and repaired four times! I envy you guys that can actually
remove and re-use original bumber bolts!

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:43:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Daniel DiMartino yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams

i feel for you thom! i don't plan on using my truck in the
winter, period. the amount of salt they use on the roads in
maine is a crime. i've seen 6 and 7 tear old trucks and cars
with road rot that makes me just cringe. the good side to all
this are the long winter months to tear into your project at
your own leisure, provided your garage is heated.

anyone interested in 68 wire diagrams for any f thru w series
trucks i have them. i could scan and send them off list to
anyone interested.


=====
Daniel DiMartino
yahoo.com>
1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
_________________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:55:55 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

Well as for the leaks and squeaks, my friend has an 86 T-top gt and it's
awsome,,it doesn't leak and as far as i could tell it didnt make any
squeaks,(not saying that others don't either ) body flex i couldn't care less
about because it still be stiffer than a convertible and im not racing
anyways.

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:48:20 -0600
From: John Strauss inetport.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers?

>excuse my ignorance but what are headers?
>What do they do? I already learned from this
>list what SWMBO means. I try to learn something new
>everyday but some days I just don't learn a darn thing.
>
Headers replace your stock exhaust manifolds. Without going into too much
detail, they are basically tube steel with an individual runner for each
cylinder, usually of equal length, that gather under the vehicle into a
"collector" which is bolted to the exhaust system. They are designed to
make it easier for the piston to push the exhaust fumes out of the
cylinder. They can even cause a venturi effect which will actuall PULL the
exhaust out of the cylinder to some extent. This is called "scavenging".
The more exhaust that can get out of the cylinder, the more room there is
for the fresh air/fuel mixture to get in so the cycle can start over.

_
_| ~~. John Strauss
\, *_} jstrauss inetport.com
\( Texas Fight!

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:58:02 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

Dear FTE Listers,

CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning the reliability of our
old trucks and there suitability for everyday use. If you would answer
the answering the following three questions and post them to the list. I
will tally the results and post them back to the list one week from
today.

1. What year and model truck do you have?
2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help!

West Slope Andy

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:11:19 -0600
From: "Bob & Becky Elliott" ptsi.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle

Does anyone know if a 79 F150 coil spring front axle will bolt in under a 85
F150. I know I would have to get rid of the twin traction pivot points. I'm
not trying to get radical, just go to a one piece
front axle. Hope everyone had a Happy Christmas. All our family got home
safely. Our Son had trouble over around Knoxville, Tenn. Got forced off I40
and somehow broke a front rotor getting shut down. Other than getting towed
in and things fixed, all was ok. Made the trip from Ft. Bragg a little
longer. Quest. How did he break a front rotor getting stopped? He had a drop
off on the side of the highway. Bob Elliott

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:12:16 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Charging System

Can I assume that my charging system is OK if the battery voltage is about
14.7 Volts while the engine is revved and held to around 1500 to 2000 RPM?
(FE in a 69 F-100)???

It seems OK since it holds at this voltage when the RPM's are increased....

The battery reads about 12 volts when the engine is off.

CJ
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:43:53 -0800
From: Don Grossman pacific.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes]

bruce hart wrote:
>
>
> I want to put power brakes on a 69 F350 with drum brakes all around.I
> have the booster and master cylinder but what I need to know is if there
> are any modifications to the brake pedal linkage or is this a bolt on
> operation.Any help would be appreciated,thanks-Bruce


It should be a bolt in but it will really depend on what year booster it
is and did you get all the linkage to connect to the peddle?

Laters
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:05:36 EST
From: IanBoss69 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aantipas sopris.net writes:

1. What year and model truck do you have? 79 F250
2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? Daily Driver
3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? It wouldn't
make it

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:29:02 EST
From: SHill48337 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aantipas sopris.net writes:

<< 1. What year and model truck do you have?
2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help!

West Slope Andy
>>
1. 1972 F-250 4x4 460, when it gets back on the road soon.
2. To be driven both daily and as a hobby truck.
3. I would have no problems driving cross-country, but not routinely (there
are better ways to travel). For instance if I can get my rig running in time
for Pigeon Forge I will drive it there knowing the engine, transmission, gear
boxes, bearings and brakes are in good shape. Using synthetic oils also
gives me a little more confidence. But I know there is an increased risk of
small simple failures of some type (door handles, heater fans, turn signals,
etc...), but willing to live with it.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:48:18 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

Ok FTE Listers,

I have added one more question to the list that I should have added
before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning
the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday
use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions
and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the
results and post them back to the list one week from today.

1. What year and model truck do you have?

2. Which of the following best describes your truck:

A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
it looks like a new truck.
C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
components but needs work.
D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork
before being drivable.

3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
the help!

Regards,

Andy

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:42:38 PST
From: "White Wolf" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

If ya got the 3300 for the new car, why not use it to put in an overdrive
and or change the rear gears so that you mileage would increase? thats
whats Im saving for as my '66 352 3speed gets about 12-14 miles per gallon
and I average about 200 miles a week.


>From: IanBoss69aol.com
>Reply-To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)
>Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:42:46 EST
>
>Well, I've hit a big ol lump in the road of life. I've recently acquired
>a
>great new job at a kit car manufacturer semi-near my home. By semi i mean
>50
>miles away. Due to this fact my gas bills have gone waaaaaay up. 55
>minutes
>at 3500rpm in an M-block doesnt equate to good gas milage. Im filling up
>once every 2 days and at 20 bucks a tank its killing me....soooo, im forced
>to look into other transportation,,,,theres the FTE content,,,,,negative
>content but nonetheless content. Anyways now for you mustang guys....i
>know
>theres a few out there, I've decided on an 87-90 5.0L LX sedan but I'd
>love
>it if i could get T-tops also,,,,as i understand it the T-tops were
>discontinued after 87 but i havent got a clear answer as to whether they
>were
>even available on the sedans. The book I constantly refer to: Mustang Red
>Book says that in 82 they were offered on both body styles but says nothing
>more in any other year until 88 when it says they were discontinued. My
>question is: If there were in fact 87 sedan T-tops made, how rare is this
>car? better yet, how much more expensive are they ? Kelly Blue Book has
>an
>87 LX sedan ...with T-tops listed as $3300 which is perfectly in my price
>range,,,but I'm questioning its accuracy,,,so whats your guys' opinions on
>the subject???
>
>Ian
>79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
>True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:50:51 PST
From: "White Wolf" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

1966 352 3-speed long Fleetside(?)
Till a week ago I drove every day.. (need a clutch)
Cross country? sure once I get a 4-speed..


>1. What year and model truck do you have?
>2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
>3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
>

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:53:28 EST
From: IanBoss69aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject)

theres still that reliability issue

Ian
79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M
True Blue Ford Blue
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:05:23 -0600
From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" mddc.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

Andrew Antipas wrote:

> 1. What year and model truck do you have?

1970 F100 390 C6
>
> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like a new truck.
> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork before being drivable.

Running with decent body, mostly original powertrain, but needs work.
>
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

If you're paying for the gas!

Jason Kendrick
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:57:14 -0500
From: "Joe " p3.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams

Dan,
I would like a copy of the 68 wiring diagrams..is it complete????Let me
know..
Thanks
Joe

- ----------
> From: Daniel DiMartino yahoo.com>
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams
> Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:43 AM
>
> i feel for you thom! i don't plan on using my truck in the
> winter, period. the amount of salt they use on the roads in
> maine is a crime. i've seen 6 and 7 tear old trucks and cars
> with road rot that makes me just cringe. the good side to all
> this are the long winter months to tear into your project at
> your own leisure, provided your garage is heated.
>
> anyone interested in 68 wire diagrams for any f thru w series
> trucks i have them. i could scan and send them off list to
> anyone interested.
>
>
> =====
> Daniel DiMartino
> yahoo.com>
> 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4
> _________________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:15:37 -0700
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4

FTE Listers,

I need help with a price for an old truck. I'm currently looking at a 79
F250 XLT crewcab, 4x4, 400M, 4spd., 150,000 miles, PS, PB, AC. The owner
is asking $7900 which seems very high to me.

The truck runs fairly well and has an edelbrock perfomer carb, intake,
cam, and dual exhaust. The current owner has owned the truck for 2 years
and has put 10,000 miles on the motor. He does not know when and if the
motor was rebuilt. There is a fair amount of play in the steering and
the brakes seem fine. The steering box leaks.

It needs paint, the aluminum trim is in poor shape and there are a few
dents and dings. There is very little rust except for the right rear
wheel arch which is starting to bubble under the paint. The truck was
originally dark blue but was sprayed black right over the blue just like
the el cheapo Maeco basic paint job. There are a few bits and pieces
which are missing, broken, or need to be replaced like the windshield.

I would say the truck is in average condition for being 20 years old.
What would be a fair price for this truck?

Thanks,

Andy

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:18:27 -0700
From: "Bertolin" Ford-trucks.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck Use Survey 2

Andy asked:
1. What year and model truck do you have? 1965 F-100 Custom Cab longbed

2. Which of the following best describes your truck: option B
A. Complete restored to showroom condition or better
B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like
a new truck.---> It's a very nice original but could use a new exterior
paint job. It runs great with the original engine and tranny. It would not
take much to move it to category A and someday, I plan to add the finishing
touches.
C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original components but
needs work
D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork before being
drivable

3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? I wouldn't
drive any vehicle cross country on a routine basis. The prior owner drove it
from Arizona to Florida a couple times. Someday I would like to drive it to
Pigeon Forge and from here, that would be a major cross country trip.

Happy New Year everyone! Roberta with 1965 Custom Cab

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:39:00 EST
From: BDIJXSaol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 Long Box For Sale

I have a long box in pretty good shape that I am selling:

1) It doesn't have gas doors (78-79), just one inlet hole in the rear.
2) The wheel arches are NOT rusted out.
3) There is some rust in the lower back panels, easily fixed with a patch
panel.
4) The tub appears to have very little rust in it.
5) The front panel (just behind cab) is slightly bent forward, just needs a
2x4 and big hammer.
6) No tailgate.
7) It has a few dents as it got pushed around the junkyard for a year or two.

After restoring a bed like this, and seeing how much that cost, I figure this
one is worth in the $250 range, but I'm negotiable!

For a person with some bodywork skill, this would be an excellent deal. You
can pound (slide pull) most of the dents out, sandblast the underside and
inside, and maybe have a bodyshop put in the final filler and paint it.

If you are seriously interested, please send me a message and I can send a
couple of photos. I'm in Boulder, Colorado.

If I don't hear from anyone in a week or so, I'll go ahead and post it to the
classifieds....I just wanted to offer to the "family" first....

CJ


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:31:48 CST
From: "Luke Phillips" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 & C6 FOR SALE

The motor and tranny are out of a 73 Mercury Grand Marque. The motor has
90,000 grandmother driven miles on it. I ran a compression check
on the cylinders and they all showed 135lbs or better. The block is a
71 DOVE series, the heads are 73 DOVE series. The motor is complete
with the execption of the carburator. The tranny works well all it needs is
fluid. Asking $1,000. If you have any further questions please email me at
lukes67fordhotmail.com, or feel free to call me at
(972)475-3972. Thanks,
Luke Phillips
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:38:47 EST
From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aantipassopris.net writes:

<<
1. What year and model truck do you have? 78 f150 4x4 lwb, 79 f250 ext.
cab 4x4,
and a 78 f100 swb.
2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? drove the 78 4x4 every
day, until
i got a jeep cj7 about 5 months ago. as soon as the engine is in the
f250 it will
be used in my business everyday.
3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? yes, at
least if it
breaks down, 9 out of 10 times i can work on it beside the road with
basic hand
tools.
additional comments: i've been the new truck route, i had a 96 f250 4x4
powerstroke diesel. it was a nice truck. but the 500.00 per month payments
got old quick, the insurance was high. it left me stranded once, i couldn't
work on it, barely made it to the dealership, 4200.00 dollars later it was
fixed, fuel injection problems, they replaced all kinds of sensors,
regulators etc. it was covered under warranty, thank goodness. i sold it
before the warranty ran out. it that would,ve been my old 78 i'd got out and
banged on the carb a few times and went on my way. i enjoy the old 78 as much
as i did the 96. when and if i ever get the 79 f250 4x4 fixed up nice, i'll
be the envy of the town, theres none of those around here.
the 78 or 79 won't get 20 mpg like the 96 did, i think the 78 with 429 pi,
4spd and 410 gears only gets about 10 mpg, the 79 probably won't get much
better with the 400, automatic and 410 gears.

and i'll have less money in all three of the older trucks than the 96

thanks, jeff grant


West Slope Andy >>
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:40:24 EST
From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle

i believe you will have to remove the big cross member on the 85 but with a
little fab work it is possible.

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:44:40 EST
From: JJJJJGRANTaol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington

some one from washington came to a truck pull in georgia, they pulled their
super modified pull truck with a 69-72 f250 4x4, was that you? whoever it
was it was a super nice truck (both trucks)

jeff grant
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:01:58 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck White jps.net>
To: 61-79 Ford Trucks <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 6:55 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights"


> I'd just like to thank Steve Delanty for his great tech bulletin on
getting
> the most juice out of my halogen headlights. I'm now blazing along with
all
> the newer models! I do have one suggestion. In the bulletin, (Steve
> mentions the work was done on a '71 F-100), mention is made of the stock
> colors for the high and low beam wiring harnesses at the headlights (red
for
> highbeam, green for low). On my truck ('71 F-250), the green is the high
> and the red is the low! This made for some anxious moments when I first
> turned them on after the work was completed I can tell ya! Anyway my
> suggestion is to test the leads at the headlights in the on and then the
> high beam position to determine which is which before you cut them.
Again,
> thanks for the great bulletin - I couldn't be happier with the results.
And
> by the way you were right Steve - It's easier than it appears to be just
> reading the instructions. The beer helps ;-)
>
Just a suggestion when doing the whiter whites, brighter brights... The way
he has on there to make both your brights and dims come on at the same time
can be a pain... Found alot quicker solution. Between your two relays put a
diode between the activation post on the high beam relay, and the activation
post on the low beam relay. Make sure you've got it setup so that the juice
flows from high relay to low relay and not backwards, but it is alot easier
than going into the foot switch... Been using this setup for a while and it
works great!

Brad


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:12:31 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Mcknight hotmail.com>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:19 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8"


> Hey guys!
> I was working on my truck the other night, and I thought about
something...
> the ford 9" differential, (which I have on my 78' I think) and the 8.8
that
> I hvae on the 85?? I was wondering how you could tell the difference from
> the axles? If I'm right, the 9" has the front inspection plate that pulls
> off and out with the drive shaft, and the 8.8 has the rear... what is the
> 85' most likely equipped with? any info would be great because I want to
buy
> a posi locker for the 9" and I just don't know =)

The 8.8 has bolts and a "pan" that comes off from the rear... The 9" has
nuts and studs in the front, and you have to pull both axles out to get the
third member out. Not really too bad of a job, as long as you can get the
axles to let go!! Good luck...

Brad


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:17:13 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250

- ----- Original Message -----
From: aol.com>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:04 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250


> I am buying a rear disk set for my truck. I want better stopping power.
> Should i buy a porportioning valve to balance front and rear? I purchased
a
> line lock to get a parking brake. Your help is appreciated.
>
> Robert Bowen
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Yeah. you will still need a proportioning valve... Where did you find the
kit and how much?>!?!!?!?

Brad


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:52:10 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) visteon.com>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)


> C-6 only has one band and there is a torque setting for it. They are very
> easy to adjust but you have to have a 5/16 square socket and inch pound
> torqe wrench as I recall, maybe it was foot pounds....I think I used mine
so
> it must be about 10 ftlbs or so on the C-4 at least. Don't remember doing
> the C-6 but pretty sure I put a band in it when I rebuilt it. I know I
did
> because I also cut diagonal grooves in the friction material to make it
> shift faster. (this is not recommended by the way) You can buy the bands
> already cut for this.

Hate to contradict this, but the torque setting is simply a starting point.
You torque the band to 10 ft./lbs. and the back it off a few turns. I don't
know exactly how many... would be in most any shop manual. But the torque
value is just a reference point....

Brad


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:47:48 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 12:58 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey


> Dear FTE Listers,
>
> CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning the reliability of our
> old trucks and there suitability for everyday use. If you would answer
> the answering the following three questions and post them to the list. I
> will tally the results and post them back to the list one week from
> today.
>
> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
> 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
>
> Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help!
>
> West Slope Andy
>
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1. 1978 F-150 4X4 429
2. I used to drive it everyday until gas mileage became an issue when I
moved 30 miles frrom my job. Now I just drive it occasionally ):
3. Absolutely, if gas were free... No worries about reliability.


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:51:22 -0500
From: "Brad Smith" mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Antipas sopris.net>
To: <61-79-listford-trucks.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 2:48 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2


> Ok FTE Listers,
>
> I have added one more question to the list that I should have added
> before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning
> the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday
> use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions
> and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the
> results and post them back to the list one week from today.
>
> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
>
> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
> it looks like a new truck.
> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork
> before being drivable.
>
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
>
> Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
> the help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
In reply to the new question, I would have to say B... Definately not
showroom, but I have done quite a few things to it, and she looks pretty
sharp.

Brad


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:36:24 -0800
From: "Mike Sealey" <75.f150angelfire.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again!

Forwarding this from the MoPar list, obviously this goes beyond other brands...

For those few who don't know about this issue, various California counties have had programs like this for the last six or seven years. The way it works is that gross-polluter industries such as refineries buy older cars for as much as $900, which are then crushed without the benefit of part removal for other cars. This program has driven up the price of used cars in California and has made older cars/trucks and parts for them much harder to find.

Even if you don't live in one of the states doing this, I would hope the thought of a rustfree California '61 F-100 Unibody going to the crusher would be enough of a wakeup call that all should get knowledgeable on this issue.

Mike Sealey
'75 F-150 Ranger, 390/C6
("Redneck Continental")

>----- Original Message -----
>From: G.P.Hamel pdq.net>
>
>Texas to Propose Regulation to Implement Vehicle Scrappage Program
>Here we go again! The Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission (TNRCC)
>is proposing a regulation to implement a vehicle scrappage program. That's
>right, the TNRCC is trying to do what the Texas Legislature failed to
>accomplish this past year. If finalized, the scrappage program would apply
>to passenger cars and light-duty trucks in the counties of Brazoria,
>Chambers, Collin, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, El Paso, Fort Bend, Galveston,
>Hardin, Harris, Henderson, Hood, Hunt, Jefferson, Johnson, Kaufman, Liberty,
>Montgomery, Orange, Parker, Rockwall, Tarrant and Waller. Are you ready to
>go to battle again?
>The TNRCC will hold public hearings on this proposal at the following times
>and locations:
>
>Jan. 25, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Building E, Room 201S, TNRCC Complex, 12100 Park
>35 Circle, Austin, TX.
>
>Jan. 27, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Dallas Public Library Auditorium, 1515 Young
>Street, Dallas, TX.
>
>Jan. 27, 2000, 7:00 p.m., Lewisville City Council Chambers, Municipal
>Center, Lewisville, TX.
>
>Jan. 28, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Council Chambers, 2nd floor, Fort Worth City
>Hall, 1000 Throckmorton Street, Fort Worth, TX.
>
>These hearings offer a great opportunity for all scrappage opponents to tell
>TNRCC officials exactly what they think about programs that crush cars.
>
>
>The more people who show up to these hearings, the more they'll know we are
>serious about protecting these vehicles.
>We Urge You to Attend These Hearings to Oppose This Scrappage Program
>
>For a copy of the proposal, go to the TNRCC website at
>www.tnrcc.texas.gov/oprd/991216.html and scroll down to DFW Voluntary Motor
>Vehicle Scrappage or contact Steve McDonald or Brian Caudill at 202-783-6007
>(briancsema.org, stevemacsema.org).
>
>--------- End Forwarded Message ---------



Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:56:09 -0800
From: "Jerry Godsey" prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
65 Ford Econoline, 170 c.i., 3 sp manual

> 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
I drive it every day! What good is it to have it if you don't drive it?

> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
Yes, once I figure out how to squeeze about 10-15 mph more out of it, I
would like to go on the Hot Rod Tour!
Blessings,
Jerry Godsey
www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/4275


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:09:07 -0800
From: Mike Pacheco USWEST.NET>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

1. I drive a 72' F-100 351C
2. Weekends and a good weather truck
3. I'd drive this truck cross country if I needed to, very dependable
truck.

Mike in Burien
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:01:44 CST
From: "Luke Phillips" hotmail.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

I drive a 67 F100 shortbed

I would consiter my truck in the category of C. I have made minor
changes like: new wheels and tires, new steering wheel, and a new seat.

I drive my truck on a daily basis, to and from work. I would not try
to drive cross country in fear of being stranded. I will say this,
When I rebuild the motor I would drive it to the ends of the earth!

Have a happy new Millennium!!!
Thanks,
Luke Phillips


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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:49:32 -0600
From: Stu Varner ford-trucks.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

>1. What year and model truck do you have?

1971 F-100 SWB 4x4 Custom, Mojave tan, black interior, rubber floor mat, AM
radio, heater and nothing power!

>2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better

99% to showroom specs except the shocks, and brake hoses. Had no luck
locating them
from any obsolete dealer or they would have been on there. Factory markings
on chasis are there, again!

>3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

NO, but ONLY because I have way too much time (1,000 plus hours) and WAY
WAY WAY too much
money invested in it for daily use. (Still not finished with it, but I will
be by PF 2000!!)
It does run like a raped ape though! Pleasure and show only - DEFINITELY
NOT A TRAILER QUEEN!!

I do feel very confident this old girl would run a long time (with proper
maintenance) as is.

My first 71 F-100 was driven anywhere and everywhere including many routine
trips to several states from where I lived.
I took it everywhere when I was in high school and college during the 1980's.
She was an awesome old girl even if the factory powerplant was an untouched
and wheezing 302 2V/C-4 combo
- - died of cancer in 1995. May she rest in peace. 8^(

>
>Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
>the help!

Before too many criticize me for not driving this truck on a regular basis,
I must say this truck was
so nice and so original when I bought it I felt it deserved to be preserved
at a "showroom stock" level.
After all, someone has to do it for the young, snot nosed kids (like my
own) growing up in the next few years.

Enough.....I could go on but I will spare you any additional comments.

Stu
Nuke GM!

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:15:54 EST
From: SHill48337aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington

In a message dated 12/26/99 5:47:33 PM Eastern Standard Time,
JJJJJGRANTaol.com writes:

<< some one from washington came to a truck pull in georgia, they pulled
their
super modified pull truck with a 69-72 f250 4x4, was that you? whoever it
was it was a super nice truck (both trucks)
>>
Boy, I wish it was me, but unfortunately it was not. If I had the money and
did not need my job that would be something I would love to do. Thanks for
asking.
Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:48:41 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - headers?

Headers referrs to an exhaust manifold made of tubular steel (pipe). Mild
steel and stainless has been used. Generally they flow better than stock
exhaust manifolds but in later models the factory has wised up a little and
offered stock manifolds that flow much better than previous designs so the
gain by installing headers may be reduced. Hooker is one of the larger
manufacturers.

Tom H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel R. Olinick [mailto:dolinickearthlink.net]
> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 10:17 PM
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers?
>
>
> excuse my ignorance but what are headers?
> What do they do? I already learned from this
> list what SWMBO means. I try to learn something new
> everyday but some days I just don't learn a darn thing.
>
> Dan(dolinickearthlink.net)
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:48:42 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rust question

I'm fairly new to the east myself. I've heard of coating the underside of
the vehicle with a light oil (wd40?) before the snow flies to protect the
undercarriage. Most people I've seen don't bother. As someone put it
"thats why they make new cars". Here in Maine they have a safety inspection
to weed out the cars that have cancer too bad to be safe. The structural
equivalient of a CA smog inspection. Due to this there aren't too many old
cars on the road. The cars anyone wants to keep they don't drive after
October.

Tom H

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Jensen [mailto:sjensensrworldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 7:01 AM
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rust question
>
>
> Howdy all,
>
> I took a trip back east recently and saw a few really good deals on
> vehicles. Really good, until I looked at the chassis! I've
> never seen rust
> like that. It's a wonder they could still be driven. And I'm
> talking fairly
> new, too. Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on
> ice and snow,
> I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do
> you guys back
> east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work?
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:04:42 -0500
From: "Phil / Debi" stargate.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

> > 1. What year and model truck do you have?

I have four 66 F100, 70 F100, 79 F250 4x4, 91 F150 4x4
> >
> > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:

the 66 is clean but not restored to stock, has built 390 in it.
the 70 is C, the 79 is D, the 91 is decent.

> > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
> > it looks like a new truck.
> > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> > components but needs work.
> > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork
> > before being drivable.
> >
> > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

not the 66, is reliable but only gets about 5 mpg, working on getting the 70
reliable enough, the 79 is parked, would drive the 91 cross country.
> >
> > Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
> > the help!

I plan on driving the 70 on as many road trips as I can, hoping to drive
though 49 states with it, when done working on it.
The 91 is my daily driver.

Phil Beattie
66 F100
70 F100
79 F250 4x4
91 F150 4x4
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:17:13 EST
From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey

In a message dated 12/26/1999 12:50:58 PM EST, aantipassopris.net writes:

<< 1. What year and model truck do you have?
2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck?
3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
>>
64 F-100 460 c.i. 400 hp
Everyday use
Don't think I would like the extra miles , but sure.
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:22:11 EST
From: WEDIVE247aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

In a message dated 12/26/1999 2:42:35 PM EST, aantipassopris.net writes:

<< B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
it looks like a new truck. >>

64 F-100 460 c.i. 400 h.p.
answer ( b )
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:51:18 -0700
From: "Kiernan, Denny" wenet.net>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

My truck is a "'72 F-100 360 2WD manual everything, stock everything,
mostly original, fairly rusty, 140K."

> > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:

> > > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> > > components but needs work.

I'd say kinda indecent body, all essential stuff working well, but needs
work on "luxury" components such as horn, parking brake, dash lights,
etc.

> > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?

I plan to put a camper shell on it and take a liesurely trip
crosscountry next year (I've been saying this for several years.) Some
might look at the truck and say it isn't a wise thing to do, but I've
made up my mind. Whenever I've tried to do the wise thing, it hasn't
turned out too well anyway, so I dont even try any more.

It only gets about 10, but I figure the money I save on smog tests will
pay for the gas easily.

Denny
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:23 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Charging System

sounds pretty healty to me.

Tom H

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BDIJXSaol.com [mailto:BDIJXSaol.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:12 AM
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Charging System
>
>
> Can I assume that my charging system is OK if the battery
> voltage is about
> 14.7 Volts while the engine is revved and held to around 1500
> to 2000 RPM?
> (FE in a 69 F-100)???
>
> It seems OK since it holds at this voltage when the RPM's are
> increased....
>
> The battery reads about 12 volts when the engine is off.
>
> CJ
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:27 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again!

I wonder if any of those environmentalist wackos ever stopped to think about
how much energy is saved when an antique automobile is restored vs building
a new car. Here in Maine the single largest producer of HC emissions is
(drum roll please) Our FOREST!!!! Lets all save the planet, protect our
air -- mow down a forest. With a little attention to detail our beloved
OFTs (Old Ford Trucks) can run very clean. I would like to extend a single
digit salute to the nut balls that come up with this crap. I also know that
it is economics. The people that dream this up are usually the people that
run the sources of gross pollution to make their bottom lines better.

Tom H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Sealey [mailto:75.f150angelfire.com]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 4:36 PM
> To: 61-79 Ford Truck List
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again!
>
>
> Forwarding this from the MoPar list, obviously this goes
> beyond other brands...
>
> For those few who don't know about this issue, various
> California counties have had programs like this for the last
> six or seven years. The way it works is that gross-polluter
> industries such as refineries buy older cars for as much as
> $900, which are then crushed without the benefit of part
> removal for other cars. This program has driven up the price
> of used cars in California and has made older cars/trucks and
> parts for them much harder to find.
>
> Even if you don't live in one of the states doing this, I
> would hope the thought of a rustfree California '61 F-100
> Unibody going to the crusher would be enough of a wakeup call
> that all should get knowledgeable on this issue.

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:25 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

1. 1976 F-150, 390/C6 Supercab
2. Was driving everyday til winter started. Parked it to hide from rust
monster.
Condition Probably B. amature restoration. Had a body shop whose bottom
line was lowest price. (He probably wouldn't have liked it if INS had gone
through his shop). From 30 feet it looks new. Interior is original
(desparately needs work)
3. Yes. BTDT. Drove from CA to AR for Christmas 3 days. Return trip
Drove from CA to ME 6 days with a stop in AR. Drove thru
the remnants of a hurricane in TN that trip.
Wouldn't hesitat to get in it tomorrow and go to CA (except I don't want
to go to CA.)

Plan on pulling the drive line to do a minor rebuild (gaskets, heads etc).
Would like to figure out how to get about 15mpg out of her.

Tom H.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Antipas [mailto:aantipassopris.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 11:48 AM
> To: 61-79-listford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2
>
>
> Ok FTE Listers,
>
> I have added one more question to the list that I should have added
> before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion
> concerning
> the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday
> use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four
> questions
> and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the
> results and post them back to the list one week from today.
>
> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
>
> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration.
> From 30 feet
> it looks like a new truck.
> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline,
> or bodywork
> before being drivable.
>
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
>
> Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
> the help!
>
> Regards,
>
> Andy
>
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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:26 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4

A crewcab 4x4 is pretty rare. Still the condition you describe I would be
hard pressed to give more than 2-3 thousand for it. In my mind a $7900
truck would be fully restored to showroom new condition. At that price
something on it better be perfect. Driveline or body. Sounds like the
motor was recently redone but what about the transmission or axles?

Just my opinion.

Tom H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Antipas [mailto:aantipassopris.net]
> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 1:16 PM
> To: FTE List
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4
>
>
> FTE Listers,
>
> I need help with a price for an old truck. I'm currently
> looking at a 79
> F250 XLT crewcab, 4x4, 400M, 4spd., 150,000 miles, PS, PB,
> AC. The owner
> is asking $7900 which seems very high to me.
>
> The truck runs fairly well and has an edelbrock perfomer carb, intake,
> cam, and dual exhaust. The current owner has owned the truck
> for 2 years
> and has put 10,000 miles on the motor. He does not know when
> and if the
> motor was rebuilt. There is a fair amount of play in the steering and
> the brakes seem fine. The steering box leaks.
>
> It needs paint, the aluminum trim is in poor shape and there are a few
> dents and dings. There is very little rust except for the right rear
> wheel arch which is starting to bubble under the paint. The truck was
> originally dark blue but was sprayed black right over the
> blue just like
> the el cheapo Maeco basic paint job. There are a few bits and pieces
> which are missing, broken, or need to be replaced like the windshield.
>
> I would say the truck is in average condition for being 20 years old.
> What would be a fair price for this truck?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andy
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:46:59 EST
From: GMontgo930aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2

In a message dated 12/26/99 2:42:35 PM Eastern Standard Time,
aantipassopris.net writes:

> Ok FTE Listers,
>
> I have added one more question to the list that I should have added
> before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning
> the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday
> use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions
> and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the
> results and post them back to the list one week from today.
>
> 1. What year and model truck do you have?
a 1979 Ford Bronco Ranger XLT
>
> 2. Which of the following best describes your truck:
>
> A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better
> B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet
> it looks like a new truck.
> C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original
> components but needs work.
This is it. Resto us forthcomming (I hope soon)
> D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork
> before being drivable.
>
> 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis?
Yessirindeedie! Always Have & Always will despite it's appetite for gas!
>
> Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for
> the help!
>
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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:01:51 EST
From: GMontgo930aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new)

In a message dated 12/23/99 7:11:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,
gpeters3visteon.com writes:

> You can
> actually change the 1st gear upshift point by alterning the length of the
> pin which floats between the modulator plunger and valve body plunger.

OK, Now Im curious, How's the length affect the upshift point and what's the
relationship? Does longer mean higher rpms beffor shifting? etc? I always
like info like this.

George
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