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From: owner-61-79-list-digest  ford-trucks.com (61-79-list-digest) To: 61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Subject: 61-79-list-digest V3 #475 Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com Sender: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Errors-To: owner-61-79-list-digest ford-trucks.com Precedence: bulk 61-79-list-digest Monday, December 27 1999 Volume 03 : Number 475 ======================================================================= Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans Visit our web site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To unsubscribe, send email to: majordomo ford-trucks.com with the words "unsubscribe 61-79-list-digest" in the body of the message. ======================================================================= In this issue: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes] FTE 61-79 - Rust question Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) FTE 61-79 - headers? FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle FTE 61-79 - Charging System Re: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes] Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4 FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck Use Survey 2 FTE 61-79 - 73-79 Long Box For Sale FTE 61-79 - 460 & C6 FOR SALE Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle FTE 61-79 - burt in washington Re: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8" Re: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250 Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new) Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again! Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington RE: FTE 61-79 - headers? RE: FTE 61-79 - Rust question Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 RE: FTE 61-79 - Charging System RE: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again! RE: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4 Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new) ======================================================================= ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:04:30 -0500 From: "G.T. Herpich" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) I don't believe Ford ever installed T-tops on the assembly line. They were done by an after market company like the early 80s convertibles. There were big problems with leaks and squeaks not to mention added flex to an already too flexible body style with the hatch. I don't know if Ford stopped authorizing the conversion or the company that did it went out of business but I'd suspect the former. To sum it up, a T-top car would most likely be more trouble than it's worth. There are a lot of sun roof cars out there (factory installed) and they don't leak if you keep the drains clear. My '86 Capri has no rust other than around the sun roof. I'm looking for a solid roof to replace it. George IanBoss69 aol.com wrote: > Well, I've hit a big ol lump in the road of life. I've recently acquired a > great new job at a kit car manufacturer semi-near my home. By semi i mean 50 > miles away. Due to this fact my gas bills have gone waaaaaay up. 55 minutes > at 3500rpm in an M-block doesnt equate to good gas milage. Im filling up > once every 2 days and at 20 bucks a tank its killing me....soooo, im forced > to look into other transportation,,,,theres the FTE content,,,,,negative > content but nonetheless content. Anyways now for you mustang guys....i know > theres a few out there, I've decided on an 87-90 5.0L LX sedan but I'd love > it if i could get T-tops also,,,,as i understand it the T-tops were > discontinued after 87 but i havent got a clear answer as to whether they were > even available on the sedans. The book I constantly refer to: Mustang Red > Book says that in 82 they were offered on both body styles but says nothing > more in any other year until 88 when it says they were discontinued. My > question is: If there were in fact 87 sedan T-tops made, how rare is this > car? better yet, how much more expensive are they ? Kelly Blue Book has an > 87 LX sedan ...with T-tops listed as $3300 which is perfectly in my price > range,,,but I'm questioning its accuracy,,,so whats your guys' opinions on > the subject??? > > Ian > 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M > True Blue Ford Blue > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:56:21 -0500 From: bruce hart Subject: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes] - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: power brakes Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 08:44:25 -0500 From: bruce hart Reply-To: tripp Organization: na To: "61-79-list ford-trucks.com" <61-79-list ford-trucks.com> I want to put power brakes on a 69 F350 with drum brakes all around.I have the booster and master cylinder but what I need to know is if there are any modifications to the brake pedal linkage or is this a bolt on operation.Any help would be appreciated,thanks-Bruce == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:01:16 -0800 From: "Scott Jensen" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rust question Howdy all, I took a trip back east recently and saw a few really good deals on vehicles. Really good, until I looked at the chassis! I've never seen rust like that. It's a wonder they could still be driven. And I'm talking fairly new, too. Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on ice and snow, I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do you guys back east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:21:20 EST From: TBeeee aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question In a message dated 12/26/99 10:09:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, sjensensr worldnet.att.net writes: > Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on ice and snow, > I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do you guys back > east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work? Sure rub it in why don't you? If you take a look at my page, you''ll see that the time we have to spend on these old trucks is double what many others have to spend to get one road-worthy. Rust free in the North East generally means the frame doesn't look like swiss cheese and the floor pan has only been patched and repaired four times! I envy you guys that can actually remove and re-use original bumber bolts! Stock Man 1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims) 1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd 1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 07:43:22 -0800 (PST) From: Daniel DiMartino Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams i feel for you thom! i don't plan on using my truck in the winter, period. the amount of salt they use on the roads in maine is a crime. i've seen 6 and 7 tear old trucks and cars with road rot that makes me just cringe. the good side to all this are the long winter months to tear into your project at your own leisure, provided your garage is heated. anyone interested in 68 wire diagrams for any f thru w series trucks i have them. i could scan and send them off list to anyone interested. ===== Daniel DiMartino 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:55:55 EST From: IanBoss69 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) Well as for the leaks and squeaks, my friend has an 86 T-top gt and it's awsome,,it doesn't leak and as far as i could tell it didnt make any squeaks,(not saying that others don't either ) body flex i couldn't care less about because it still be stiffer than a convertible and im not racing anyways. Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:48:20 -0600 From: John Strauss Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers? >excuse my ignorance but what are headers? >What do they do? I already learned from this >list what SWMBO means. I try to learn something new >everyday but some days I just don't learn a darn thing. > Headers replace your stock exhaust manifolds. Without going into too much detail, they are basically tube steel with an individual runner for each cylinder, usually of equal length, that gather under the vehicle into a "collector" which is bolted to the exhaust system. They are designed to make it easier for the piston to push the exhaust fumes out of the cylinder. They can even cause a venturi effect which will actuall PULL the exhaust out of the cylinder to some extent. This is called "scavenging". The more exhaust that can get out of the cylinder, the more room there is for the fresh air/fuel mixture to get in so the cycle can start over. _ _| ~~. John Strauss \, *_} jstrauss inetport.com \( Texas Fight! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:58:02 -0700 From: Andrew Antipas Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey Dear FTE Listers, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday use. If you would answer the answering the following three questions and post them to the list. I will tally the results and post them back to the list one week from today. 1. What year and model truck do you have? 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help! West Slope Andy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:11:19 -0600 From: "Bob & Becky Elliott" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle Does anyone know if a 79 F150 coil spring front axle will bolt in under a 85 F150. I know I would have to get rid of the twin traction pivot points. I'm not trying to get radical, just go to a one piece front axle. Hope everyone had a Happy Christmas. All our family got home safely. Our Son had trouble over around Knoxville, Tenn. Got forced off I40 and somehow broke a front rotor getting shut down. Other than getting towed in and things fixed, all was ok. Made the trip from Ft. Bragg a little longer. Quest. How did he break a front rotor getting stopped? He had a drop off on the side of the highway. Bob Elliott == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:12:16 EST From: BDIJXS aol.com Subject: FTE 61-79 - Charging System Can I assume that my charging system is OK if the battery voltage is about 14.7 Volts while the engine is revved and held to around 1500 to 2000 RPM? (FE in a 69 F-100)??? It seems OK since it holds at this voltage when the RPM's are increased.... The battery reads about 12 volts when the engine is off. CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:43:53 -0800 From: Don Grossman Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - [Fwd: power brakes] bruce hart wrote: > > > I want to put power brakes on a 69 F350 with drum brakes all around.I > have the booster and master cylinder but what I need to know is if there > are any modifications to the brake pedal linkage or is this a bolt on > operation.Any help would be appreciated,thanks-Bruce It should be a bolt in but it will really depend on what year booster it is and did you get all the linkage to connect to the peddle? Laters == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:05:36 EST From: IanBoss69 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, aantipas sopris.net writes: 1. What year and model truck do you have? 79 F250 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? Daily Driver 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? It wouldn't make it Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:29:02 EST From: SHill48337 aol.com Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, aantipas sopris.net writes: << 1. What year and model truck do you have? 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help! West Slope Andy >> 1. 1972 F-250 4x4 460, when it gets back on the road soon. 2. To be driven both daily and as a hobby truck. 3. I would have no problems driving cross-country, but not routinely (there are better ways to travel). For instance if I can get my rig running in time for Pigeon Forge I will drive it there knowing the engine, transmission, gear boxes, bearings and brakes are in good shape. Using synthetic oils also gives me a little more confidence. But I know there is an increased risk of small simple failures of some type (door handles, heater fans, turn signals, etc...), but willing to live with it. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 12:48:18 -0700 From: Andrew Antipas Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Ok FTE Listers, I have added one more question to the list that I should have added before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the results and post them back to the list one week from today. 1. What year and model truck do you have? 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like a new truck. C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original components but needs work. D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork before being drivable. 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help! Regards, Andy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:42:38 PST From: "White Wolf" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) If ya got the 3300 for the new car, why not use it to put in an overdrive and or change the rear gears so that you mileage would increase? thats whats Im saving for as my '66 352 3speed gets about 12-14 miles per gallon and I average about 200 miles a week. >From: IanBoss69 aol.com>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Subject: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) >Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 23:42:46 EST > >Well, I've hit a big ol lump in the road of life. I've recently acquired >a >great new job at a kit car manufacturer semi-near my home. By semi i mean >50 >miles away. Due to this fact my gas bills have gone waaaaaay up. 55 >minutes >at 3500rpm in an M-block doesnt equate to good gas milage. Im filling up >once every 2 days and at 20 bucks a tank its killing me....soooo, im forced >to look into other transportation,,,,theres the FTE content,,,,,negative >content but nonetheless content. Anyways now for you mustang guys....i >know >theres a few out there, I've decided on an 87-90 5.0L LX sedan but I'd >love >it if i could get T-tops also,,,,as i understand it the T-tops were >discontinued after 87 but i havent got a clear answer as to whether they >were >even available on the sedans. The book I constantly refer to: Mustang Red >Book says that in 82 they were offered on both body styles but says nothing >more in any other year until 88 when it says they were discontinued. My >question is: If there were in fact 87 sedan T-tops made, how rare is this >car? better yet, how much more expensive are they ? Kelly Blue Book has >an >87 LX sedan ...with T-tops listed as $3300 which is perfectly in my price >range,,,but I'm questioning its accuracy,,,so whats your guys' opinions on >the subject??? > >Ian >79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M >True Blue Ford Blue >== FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 11:50:51 PST From: "White Wolf" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 1966 352 3-speed long Fleetside(?) Till a week ago I drove every day.. (need a clutch) Cross country? sure once I get a 4-speed.. >1. What year and model truck do you have? >2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? >3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? > ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:53:28 EST From: IanBoss69 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - (no subject) theres still that reliability issue Ian 79 F250 4x4 4spd 351M True Blue Ford Blue == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:05:23 -0600 From: "Jason & Kathy Kendrick" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 Andrew Antipas wrote: > 1. What year and model truck do you have? 1970 F100 390 C6 > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like a new truck. > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > components but needs work. > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork before being drivable. Running with decent body, mostly original powertrain, but needs work. > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? If you're paying for the gas! Jason Kendrick == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:57:14 -0500 From: "Joe " Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams Dan, I would like a copy of the 68 wiring diagrams..is it complete????Let me know.. Thanks Joe - ---------- > From: Daniel DiMartino > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Rust question/ '68 wire diagrams > Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:43 AM > > i feel for you thom! i don't plan on using my truck in the > winter, period. the amount of salt they use on the roads in > maine is a crime. i've seen 6 and 7 tear old trucks and cars > with road rot that makes me just cringe. the good side to all > this are the long winter months to tear into your project at > your own leisure, provided your garage is heated. > > anyone interested in 68 wire diagrams for any f thru w series > trucks i have them. i could scan and send them off list to > anyone interested. > > > ===== > Daniel DiMartino > > 1968 F-250 soon to be a 4x4 > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:15:37 -0700 From: Andrew Antipas Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4 FTE Listers, I need help with a price for an old truck. I'm currently looking at a 79 F250 XLT crewcab, 4x4, 400M, 4spd., 150,000 miles, PS, PB, AC. The owner is asking $7900 which seems very high to me. The truck runs fairly well and has an edelbrock perfomer carb, intake, cam, and dual exhaust. The current owner has owned the truck for 2 years and has put 10,000 miles on the motor. He does not know when and if the motor was rebuilt. There is a fair amount of play in the steering and the brakes seem fine. The steering box leaks. It needs paint, the aluminum trim is in poor shape and there are a few dents and dings. There is very little rust except for the right rear wheel arch which is starting to bubble under the paint. The truck was originally dark blue but was sprayed black right over the blue just like the el cheapo Maeco basic paint job. There are a few bits and pieces which are missing, broken, or need to be replaced like the windshield. I would say the truck is in average condition for being 20 years old. What would be a fair price for this truck? Thanks, Andy == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 14:18:27 -0700 From: "Bertolin" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Truck Use Survey 2 Andy asked: 1. What year and model truck do you have? 1965 F-100 Custom Cab longbed 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: option B A. Complete restored to showroom condition or better B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like a new truck.---> It's a very nice original but could use a new exterior paint job. It runs great with the original engine and tranny. It would not take much to move it to category A and someday, I plan to add the finishing touches. C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original components but needs work D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork before being drivable 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? I wouldn't drive any vehicle cross country on a routine basis. The prior owner drove it from Arizona to Florida a couple times. Someday I would like to drive it to Pigeon Forge and from here, that would be a major cross country trip. Happy New Year everyone! Roberta with 1965 Custom Cab == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:39:00 EST From: BDIJXS aol.comSubject: FTE 61-79 - 73-79 Long Box For Sale I have a long box in pretty good shape that I am selling: 1) It doesn't have gas doors (78-79), just one inlet hole in the rear. 2) The wheel arches are NOT rusted out. 3) There is some rust in the lower back panels, easily fixed with a patch panel. 4) The tub appears to have very little rust in it. 5) The front panel (just behind cab) is slightly bent forward, just needs a 2x4 and big hammer. 6) No tailgate. 7) It has a few dents as it got pushed around the junkyard for a year or two. After restoring a bed like this, and seeing how much that cost, I figure this one is worth in the $250 range, but I'm negotiable! For a person with some bodywork skill, this would be an excellent deal. You can pound (slide pull) most of the dents out, sandblast the underside and inside, and maybe have a bodyshop put in the final filler and paint it. If you are seriously interested, please send me a message and I can send a couple of photos. I'm in Boulder, Colorado. If I don't hear from anyone in a week or so, I'll go ahead and post it to the classifieds....I just wanted to offer to the "family" first.... CJ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:31:48 CST From: "Luke Phillips" Subject: FTE 61-79 - 460 & C6 FOR SALE The motor and tranny are out of a 73 Mercury Grand Marque. The motor has 90,000 grandmother driven miles on it. I ran a compression check on the cylinders and they all showed 135lbs or better. The block is a 71 DOVE series, the heads are 73 DOVE series. The motor is complete with the execption of the carburator. The tranny works well all it needs is fluid. Asking $1,000. If you have any further questions please email me at lukes67ford hotmail.com, or feel free to call me at(972)475-3972. Thanks, Luke Phillips ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:38:47 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey In a message dated 12/26/99 12:50:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, aantipas sopris.net writes:<< 1. What year and model truck do you have? 78 f150 4x4 lwb, 79 f250 ext. cab 4x4, and a 78 f100 swb. 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? drove the 78 4x4 every day, until i got a jeep cj7 about 5 months ago. as soon as the engine is in the f250 it will be used in my business everyday. 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? yes, at least if it breaks down, 9 out of 10 times i can work on it beside the road with basic hand tools. additional comments: i've been the new truck route, i had a 96 f250 4x4 powerstroke diesel. it was a nice truck. but the 500.00 per month payments got old quick, the insurance was high. it left me stranded once, i couldn't work on it, barely made it to the dealership, 4200.00 dollars later it was fixed, fuel injection problems, they replaced all kinds of sensors, regulators etc. it was covered under warranty, thank goodness. i sold it before the warranty ran out. it that would,ve been my old 78 i'd got out and banged on the carb a few times and went on my way. i enjoy the old 78 as much as i did the 96. when and if i ever get the 79 f250 4x4 fixed up nice, i'll be the envy of the town, theres none of those around here. the 78 or 79 won't get 20 mpg like the 96 did, i think the 78 with 429 pi, 4spd and 410 gears only gets about 10 mpg, the 79 probably won't get much better with the 400, automatic and 410 gears. and i'll have less money in all three of the older trucks than the 96 thanks, jeff grant West Slope Andy >> == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:40:24 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - 79 F150 frt axle i believe you will have to remove the big cross member on the 85 but with a little fab work it is possible. jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:44:40 EST From: JJJJJGRANT aol.comSubject: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington some one from washington came to a truck pull in georgia, they pulled their super modified pull truck with a 69-72 f250 4x4, was that you? whoever it was it was a super nice truck (both trucks) jeff grant == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:01:58 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck White To: 61-79 Ford Trucks <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - "Whiter whites, Brighter brights" > I'd just like to thank Steve Delanty for his great tech bulletin on getting > the most juice out of my halogen headlights. I'm now blazing along with all > the newer models! I do have one suggestion. In the bulletin, (Steve > mentions the work was done on a '71 F-100), mention is made of the stock > colors for the high and low beam wiring harnesses at the headlights (red for > highbeam, green for low). On my truck ('71 F-250), the green is the high > and the red is the low! This made for some anxious moments when I first > turned them on after the work was completed I can tell ya! Anyway my > suggestion is to test the leads at the headlights in the on and then the > high beam position to determine which is which before you cut them. Again, > thanks for the great bulletin - I couldn't be happier with the results. And > by the way you were right Steve - It's easier than it appears to be just > reading the instructions. The beer helps ;-) > Just a suggestion when doing the whiter whites, brighter brights... The way he has on there to make both your brights and dims come on at the same time can be a pain... Found alot quicker solution. Between your two relays put a diode between the activation post on the high beam relay, and the activation post on the low beam relay. Make sure you've got it setup so that the juice flows from high relay to low relay and not backwards, but it is alot easier than going into the foot switch... Been using this setup for a while and it works great! Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:12:31 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8" - ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Mcknight To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 12:19 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Ford 9" and 8.8" > Hey guys! > I was working on my truck the other night, and I thought about something... > the ford 9" differential, (which I have on my 78' I think) and the 8.8 that > I hvae on the 85?? I was wondering how you could tell the difference from > the axles? If I'm right, the 9" has the front inspection plate that pulls > off and out with the drive shaft, and the 8.8 has the rear... what is the > 85' most likely equipped with? any info would be great because I want to buy > a posi locker for the 9" and I just don't know =) The 8.8 has bolts and a "pan" that comes off from the rear... The 9" has nuts and studs in the front, and you have to pull both axles out to get the third member out. Not really too bad of a job, as long as you can get the axles to let go!! Good luck... Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:17:13 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250 - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 11:04 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - rear disk brakes on 78 F250 > I am buying a rear disk set for my truck. I want better stopping power. > Should i buy a porportioning valve to balance front and rear? I purchased a > line lock to get a parking brake. Your help is appreciated. > > Robert Bowen > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html Yeah. you will still need a proportioning valve... Where did you find the kit and how much?>!?!!?!? Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:52:10 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Peters, Gary (G.R.) To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 1999 10:37 AM Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new) > C-6 only has one band and there is a torque setting for it. They are very > easy to adjust but you have to have a 5/16 square socket and inch pound > torqe wrench as I recall, maybe it was foot pounds....I think I used mine so > it must be about 10 ftlbs or so on the C-4 at least. Don't remember doing > the C-6 but pretty sure I put a band in it when I rebuilt it. I know I did > because I also cut diagonal grooves in the friction material to make it > shift faster. (this is not recommended by the way) You can buy the bands > already cut for this. Hate to contradict this, but the torque setting is simply a starting point. You torque the band to 10 ft./lbs. and the back it off a few turns. I don't know exactly how many... would be in most any shop manual. But the torque value is just a reference point.... Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:47:48 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Antipas To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 12:58 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey > Dear FTE Listers, > > CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning the reliability of our > old trucks and there suitability for everyday use. If you would answer > the answering the following three questions and post them to the list. I > will tally the results and post them back to the list one week from > today. > > 1. What year and model truck do you have? > 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? > > Feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for the help! > > West Slope Andy > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html 1. 1978 F-150 4X4 429 2. I used to drive it everyday until gas mileage became an issue when I moved 30 miles frrom my job. Now I just drive it occasionally ): 3. Absolutely, if gas were free... No worries about reliability. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:51:22 -0500 From: "Brad Smith" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 - ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Antipas To: <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 2:48 PM Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 > Ok FTE Listers, > > I have added one more question to the list that I should have added > before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning > the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday > use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions > and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the > results and post them back to the list one week from today. > > 1. What year and model truck do you have? > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet > it looks like a new truck. > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > components but needs work. > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork > before being drivable. > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? > > Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for > the help! > > Regards, > > Andy In reply to the new question, I would have to say B... Definately not showroom, but I have done quite a few things to it, and she looks pretty sharp. Brad == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:36:24 -0800 From: "Mike Sealey" <75.f150 angelfire.com>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again! Forwarding this from the MoPar list, obviously this goes beyond other brands... For those few who don't know about this issue, various California counties have had programs like this for the last six or seven years. The way it works is that gross-polluter industries such as refineries buy older cars for as much as $900, which are then crushed without the benefit of part removal for other cars. This program has driven up the price of used cars in California and has made older cars/trucks and parts for them much harder to find. Even if you don't live in one of the states doing this, I would hope the thought of a rustfree California '61 F-100 Unibody going to the crusher would be enough of a wakeup call that all should get knowledgeable on this issue. Mike Sealey '75 F-150 Ranger, 390/C6 ("Redneck Continental") >----- Original Message ----- >From: G.P.Hamel > >Texas to Propose Regulation to Implement Vehicle Scrappage Program >Here we go again! The Texas Natural Resource Conservation Commission (TNRCC) >is proposing a regulation to implement a vehicle scrappage program. That's >right, the TNRCC is trying to do what the Texas Legislature failed to >accomplish this past year. If finalized, the scrappage program would apply >to passenger cars and light-duty trucks in the counties of Brazoria, >Chambers, Collin, Dallas, Denton, Ellis, El Paso, Fort Bend, Galveston, >Hardin, Harris, Henderson, Hood, Hunt, Jefferson, Johnson, Kaufman, Liberty, >Montgomery, Orange, Parker, Rockwall, Tarrant and Waller. Are you ready to >go to battle again? >The TNRCC will hold public hearings on this proposal at the following times >and locations: > >Jan. 25, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Building E, Room 201S, TNRCC Complex, 12100 Park >35 Circle, Austin, TX. > >Jan. 27, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Dallas Public Library Auditorium, 1515 Young >Street, Dallas, TX. > >Jan. 27, 2000, 7:00 p.m., Lewisville City Council Chambers, Municipal >Center, Lewisville, TX. > >Jan. 28, 2000, 10:00 a.m., Council Chambers, 2nd floor, Fort Worth City >Hall, 1000 Throckmorton Street, Fort Worth, TX. > >These hearings offer a great opportunity for all scrappage opponents to tell >TNRCC officials exactly what they think about programs that crush cars. > > >The more people who show up to these hearings, the more they'll know we are >serious about protecting these vehicles. >We Urge You to Attend These Hearings to Oppose This Scrappage Program > >For a copy of the proposal, go to the TNRCC website at >www.tnrcc.texas.gov/oprd/991216.html and scroll down to DFW Voluntary Motor >Vehicle Scrappage or contact Steve McDonald or Brian Caudill at 202-783-6007 >(brianc sema.org, stevemacsema.org).> >--------- End Forwarded Message --------- Angelfire for your free web-based e-mail. http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.angelfire.com == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 16:56:09 -0800 From: "Jerry Godsey" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey > 1. What year and model truck do you have? 65 Ford Econoline, 170 c.i., 3 sp manual > 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? I drive it every day! What good is it to have it if you don't drive it? > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? Yes, once I figure out how to squeeze about 10-15 mph more out of it, I would like to go on the Hot Rod Tour! Blessings, Jerry Godsey www.geocities.com/heartland/meadows/4275 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:09:07 -0800 From: Mike Pacheco Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 1. I drive a 72' F-100 351C 2. Weekends and a good weather truck 3. I'd drive this truck cross country if I needed to, very dependable truck. Mike in Burien == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:01:44 CST From: "Luke Phillips" Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 I drive a 67 F100 shortbed I would consiter my truck in the category of C. I have made minor changes like: new wheels and tires, new steering wheel, and a new seat. I drive my truck on a daily basis, to and from work. I would not try to drive cross country in fear of being stranded. I will say this, When I rebuild the motor I would drive it to the ends of the earth! Have a happy new Millennium!!! Thanks, Luke Phillips ______________________________________________________ == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:49:32 -0600 From: Stu Varner Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 >1. What year and model truck do you have? 1971 F-100 SWB 4x4 Custom, Mojave tan, black interior, rubber floor mat, AM radio, heater and nothing power! >2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better 99% to showroom specs except the shocks, and brake hoses. Had no luck locating them from any obsolete dealer or they would have been on there. Factory markings on chasis are there, again! >3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? NO, but ONLY because I have way too much time (1,000 plus hours) and WAY WAY WAY too much money invested in it for daily use. (Still not finished with it, but I will be by PF 2000!!) It does run like a raped ape though! Pleasure and show only - DEFINITELY NOT A TRAILER QUEEN!! I do feel very confident this old girl would run a long time (with proper maintenance) as is. My first 71 F-100 was driven anywhere and everywhere including many routine trips to several states from where I lived. I took it everywhere when I was in high school and college during the 1980's. She was an awesome old girl even if the factory powerplant was an untouched and wheezing 302 2V/C-4 combo - - died of cancer in 1995. May she rest in peace. 8^( > >Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for >the help! Before too many criticize me for not driving this truck on a regular basis, I must say this truck was so nice and so original when I bought it I felt it deserved to be preserved at a "showroom stock" level. After all, someone has to do it for the young, snot nosed kids (like my own) growing up in the next few years. Enough.....I could go on but I will spare you any additional comments. Stu Nuke GM! == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:15:54 EST From: SHill48337 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - burt in washington In a message dated 12/26/99 5:47:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, JJJJJGRANT aol.com writes:<< some one from washington came to a truck pull in georgia, they pulled their super modified pull truck with a 69-72 f250 4x4, was that you? whoever it was it was a super nice truck (both trucks) >> Boy, I wish it was me, but unfortunately it was not. If I had the money and did not need my job that would be something I would love to do. Thanks for asking. Burt Hill Kennewick WA 1972 F-250 4x4 460 == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:48:41 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - headers? Headers referrs to an exhaust manifold made of tubular steel (pipe). Mild steel and stainless has been used. Generally they flow better than stock exhaust manifolds but in later models the factory has wised up a little and offered stock manifolds that flow much better than previous designs so the gain by installing headers may be reduced. Hooker is one of the larger manufacturers. Tom H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel R. Olinick [mailto:dolinick earthlink.net]> Sent: Saturday, December 25, 1999 10:17 PM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: FTE 61-79 - headers? > > > excuse my ignorance but what are headers? > What do they do? I already learned from this > list what SWMBO means. I try to learn something new > everyday but some days I just don't learn a darn thing. > > Dan(dolinick earthlink.net)> > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 19:48:42 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Rust question I'm fairly new to the east myself. I've heard of coating the underside of the vehicle with a light oil (wd40?) before the snow flies to protect the undercarriage. Most people I've seen don't bother. As someone put it "thats why they make new cars". Here in Maine they have a safety inspection to weed out the cars that have cancer too bad to be safe. The structural equivalient of a CA smog inspection. Due to this there aren't too many old cars on the road. The cars anyone wants to keep they don't drive after October. Tom H > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Jensen [mailto:sjensensr worldnet.att.net]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 7:01 AM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Rust question > > > Howdy all, > > I took a trip back east recently and saw a few really good deals on > vehicles. Really good, until I looked at the chassis! I've > never seen rust > like that. It's a wonder they could still be driven. And I'm > talking fairly > new, too. Being from Oregon, where we use volcanic rock on > ice and snow, > I've never had to deal with parts just disintegrating. How do > you guys back > east deal with it? Does galvanized paint work? > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:04:42 -0500 From: "Phil / Debi" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 > > 1. What year and model truck do you have? I have four 66 F100, 70 F100, 79 F250 4x4, 91 F150 4x4 > > > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: the 66 is clean but not restored to stock, has built 390 in it. the 70 is C, the 79 is D, the 91 is decent. > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better > > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet > > it looks like a new truck. > > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > > components but needs work. > > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork > > before being drivable. > > > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? not the 66, is reliable but only gets about 5 mpg, working on getting the 70 reliable enough, the 79 is parked, would drive the 91 cross country. > > > > Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for > > the help! I plan on driving the 70 on as many road trips as I can, hoping to drive though 49 states with it, when done working on it. The 91 is my daily driver. Phil Beattie 66 F100 70 F100 79 F250 4x4 91 F150 4x4 www.geocities.com/imstobu == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:17:13 EST From: WEDIVE247 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey In a message dated 12/26/1999 12:50:58 PM EST, aantipas sopris.net writes:<< 1. What year and model truck do you have? 2. Do you drive it everyday or is it a "hobby" truck? 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? >> 64 F-100 460 c.i. 400 hp Everyday use Don't think I would like the extra miles , but sure. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 23:22:11 EST From: WEDIVE247 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 In a message dated 12/26/1999 2:42:35 PM EST, aantipas sopris.net writes:<< B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet it looks like a new truck. >> 64 F-100 460 c.i. 400 h.p. answer ( b ) == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:51:18 -0700 From: "Kiernan, Denny" Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 My truck is a "'72 F-100 360 2WD manual everything, stock everything, mostly original, fairly rusty, 140K." > > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > > > components but needs work. I'd say kinda indecent body, all essential stuff working well, but needs work on "luxury" components such as horn, parking brake, dash lights, etc. > > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? I plan to put a camper shell on it and take a liesurely trip crosscountry next year (I've been saying this for several years.) Some might look at the truck and say it isn't a wise thing to do, but I've made up my mind. Whenever I've tried to do the wise thing, it hasn't turned out too well anyway, so I dont even try any more. It only gets about 10, but I figure the money I save on smog tests will pay for the gas easily. Denny == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:23 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Charging System sounds pretty healty to me. Tom H > -----Original Message----- > From: BDIJXS aol.com [mailto:BDIJXSaol.com]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 10:12 AM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Charging System > > > Can I assume that my charging system is OK if the battery > voltage is about > 14.7 Volts while the engine is revved and held to around 1500 > to 2000 RPM? > (FE in a 69 F-100)??? > > It seems OK since it holds at this voltage when the RPM's are > increased.... > > The battery reads about 12 volts when the engine is off. > > CJ > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:27 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again! I wonder if any of those environmentalist wackos ever stopped to think about how much energy is saved when an antique automobile is restored vs building a new car. Here in Maine the single largest producer of HC emissions is (drum roll please) Our FOREST!!!! Lets all save the planet, protect our air -- mow down a forest. With a little attention to detail our beloved OFTs (Old Ford Trucks) can run very clean. I would like to extend a single digit salute to the nut balls that come up with this crap. I also know that it is economics. The people that dream this up are usually the people that run the sources of gross pollution to make their bottom lines better. Tom H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Sealey [mailto:75.f150 angelfire.com]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 4:36 PM > To: 61-79 Ford Truck List > Subject: FTE 61-79 - Fwd: TEXAS scrap law.......again! > > > Forwarding this from the MoPar list, obviously this goes > beyond other brands... > > For those few who don't know about this issue, various > California counties have had programs like this for the last > six or seven years. The way it works is that gross-polluter > industries such as refineries buy older cars for as much as > $900, which are then crushed without the benefit of part > removal for other cars. This program has driven up the price > of used cars in California and has made older cars/trucks and > parts for them much harder to find. > > Even if you don't live in one of the states doing this, I > would hope the thought of a rustfree California '61 F-100 > Unibody going to the crusher would be enough of a wakeup call > that all should get knowledgeable on this issue. == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:25 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 1. 1976 F-150, 390/C6 Supercab 2. Was driving everyday til winter started. Parked it to hide from rust monster. Condition Probably B. amature restoration. Had a body shop whose bottom line was lowest price. (He probably wouldn't have liked it if INS had gone through his shop). From 30 feet it looks new. Interior is original (desparately needs work) 3. Yes. BTDT. Drove from CA to AR for Christmas 3 days. Return trip Drove from CA to ME 6 days with a stop in AR. Drove thru the remnants of a hurricane in TN that trip. Wouldn't hesitat to get in it tomorrow and go to CA (except I don't want to go to CA.) Plan on pulling the drive line to do a minor rebuild (gaskets, heads etc). Would like to figure out how to get about 15mpg out of her. Tom H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Antipas [mailto:aantipas sopris.net]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 11:48 AM > To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 > > > Ok FTE Listers, > > I have added one more question to the list that I should have added > before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion > concerning > the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday > use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four > questions > and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the > results and post them back to the list one week from today. > > 1. What year and model truck do you have? > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. > From 30 feet > it looks like a new truck. > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > components but needs work. > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, > or bodywork > before being drivable. > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? > > Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for > the help! > > Regards, > > Andy > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:53:26 -0800 From: "Hogan, Tom" Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4 A crewcab 4x4 is pretty rare. Still the condition you describe I would be hard pressed to give more than 2-3 thousand for it. In my mind a $7900 truck would be fully restored to showroom new condition. At that price something on it better be perfect. Driveline or body. Sounds like the motor was recently redone but what about the transmission or axles? Just my opinion. Tom H. > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Antipas [mailto:aantipas sopris.net]> Sent: Sunday, December 26, 1999 1:16 PM > To: FTE List > Subject: FTE 61-79 - 79 F250 crewcab 4x4 > > > FTE Listers, > > I need help with a price for an old truck. I'm currently > looking at a 79 > F250 XLT crewcab, 4x4, 400M, 4spd., 150,000 miles, PS, PB, > AC. The owner > is asking $7900 which seems very high to me. > > The truck runs fairly well and has an edelbrock perfomer carb, intake, > cam, and dual exhaust. The current owner has owned the truck > for 2 years > and has put 10,000 miles on the motor. He does not know when > and if the > motor was rebuilt. There is a fair amount of play in the steering and > the brakes seem fine. The steering box leaks. > > It needs paint, the aluminum trim is in poor shape and there are a few > dents and dings. There is very little rust except for the right rear > wheel arch which is starting to bubble under the paint. The truck was > originally dark blue but was sprayed black right over the > blue just like > the el cheapo Maeco basic paint job. There are a few bits and pieces > which are missing, broken, or need to be replaced like the windshield. > > I would say the truck is in average condition for being 20 years old. > What would be a fair price for this truck? > > Thanks, > > Andy > > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info > http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:46:59 EST From: GMontgo930 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Truck Use Survey 2 In a message dated 12/26/99 2:42:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, aantipas sopris.net writes:> Ok FTE Listers, > > I have added one more question to the list that I should have added > before. To reiterate, CJ and I have had a running discussion concerning > the reliability of our old trucks and there suitability for everyday > use. If you would take a moment and answer the following four questions > and post them to the list we would appreciate it. I will tally the > results and post them back to the list one week from today. > > 1. What year and model truck do you have? a 1979 Ford Bronco Ranger XLT > > 2. Which of the following best describes your truck: > > A. Competely restored to showroom condition or better > B. Unrestored original or amateur restoration. From 30 feet > it looks like a new truck. > C. Running truck with decent body and mostly original > components but needs work. This is it. Resto us forthcomming (I hope soon) > D. Project truck which needs a motor, driveline, or bodywork > before being drivable. > > 3. Would you drive your truck cross-country on a routine basis? Yessirindeedie! Always Have & Always will despite it's appetite for gas! > > Again, please feel free to include any additional comments. Thanks for > the help! > == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 01:01:51 EST From: GMontgo930 aol.comSubject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C-6 dilemma (new) In a message dated 12/23/99 7:11:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, gpeters3 visteon.com writes:> You can > actually change the 1st gear upshift point by alterning the length of the > pin which floats between the modulator plunger and valve body plunger. OK, Now Im curious, How's the length affect the upshift point and what's the relationship? Does longer mean higher rpms beffor shifting? etc? I always like info like this. George == FTE: Uns*bscribe and posting info http://www.ford-trucks.com/faq.html ------------------------------ End of 61-79-list-digest V3 #475 ******************************** +----- Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961 though 1979 Trucks And Vans -----+ | Send posts to 61-79-list ford-trucks.com, || List removal information is on the web site. | +---------- Visit Our Web Site: http://www.ford-trucks.com/ ----------+ |
