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61-79-list-digest Saturday, December 25 1999 Volume 03 : Number 473



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Ford Truck Enthusiasts - 1961-1979 Trucks and Vans
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In this issue:

FTE 61-79 - Mallory Ignition Site
FTE 61-79 - Re: rear disk brakes on 78 F250
Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: rear disk brakes on 78 F250
FTE 61-79 - re: Three speed on 87' engine
FTE 61-79 - RE: 76 F100
RE: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6
RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Rough running when its cold and damp
FTE 61-79 - Christmas Wishes, A story for my freinds, no FTE content
FTE 61-79 - Transmission hum, NP435
Re: FTE 61-79 - Batteries in Parallel
Re: FTE 61-79 - Christmas Wishes, A story for my freinds, no FTE content
FTE 61-79 - Loose 205 shift lever
FTE 61-79 - Happy Holidays!
FTE 61-79 - Lost FTE member
FTE 61-79 - 4wd power distribution
FTE 61-79 - Happy FTE Holidays!
FTE 61-79 - Accident Prone
Re: FTE 61-79 - Accident Prone

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:01:43 -0600
From: "Terry L. Rahn" jvlnet.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Mallory Ignition Site

Mallory Ignition is a part of Mr. Gasket, which is a part of Dana Corp. The
web site is: http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.mrgasket.com/mal.htm
Like Gary did I looked for Mallory a few months ago and came up blank. I
only found it by accident and not an intelligent search.
Happy Holidays to All
Terry L. Rahn
78 E250 Quadravan 460/C6 "Bone Stock" and rusty but trusty

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:33:34 EST
From: FORDTRKNUT aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: rear disk brakes on 78 F250

I need a little more stopping power for my 1979 Bronco too. It has a Dana 60
rear (8 Lug), and all the F-250 (Dana 44) 8 lug parts on the front. What I
did was make a transfercase mounted parking brake. It is cable accuated and
works OK. It may not lock the wheels up, but it passes New Jersey Inspection
as a parking brake. I just got a digital camera, so now I have pictures of
the assembly. It mounts off the 5 bolts that retains the rear output bearing
flange on the NP205 transfercase. I don't know where I can post these
pictures, because the Big Bronco Registry is not accepting pictures now. I
can send them to anyone that wants to see them. I was installing U-Joints in
the rear driveshaft, so I took it apart to take the pictures on the bench &
in the truck. There are quite a few so be prepard for a big file (Most
likely Zipped by AOL's software). Please contact me if you know where I can
upload them to, so that EVERYONE can see them on the net without me sending
them to them as E-mail. Well....Thats About it!!! Wayne Grabley
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:39:55 EST
From: TBeeee aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Re: rear disk brakes on 78 F250

In a message dated 12/24/99 9:37:00 AM Eastern Standard Time,
FORDTRKNUT aol.com writes:

> Please contact me if you know where I can
> upload them to, so that EVERYONE can see them on the net without me
sending
> them to them as E-mail. Well....Thats About it!!! Wayne Grabley

Wayne:
AOL gives all members some free web space. If you need assistance I can
help you start your very own page so that you'll have a place to post the
pictures to. Email me off list if interested.

Stock Man
1967 Galaxie 500 Convertible (HELP!---I need 15 x5 factory rims)
1967 F-250 FE 390 4wd
1966 F-250 I6 240 2wd LWB Flare Side
http://www.ford-trucks.com//lc/lc.php?action=do&link=http://www.hometown.aol.com/tbeeee
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:00:26 -0500
From: Jim Knapper sympatico.ca>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - re: Three speed on 87' engine

I'm pretty sure that everything from the 87 should fit on the 78. I've
done the swap the other way around, 78 enigne into an 85. The only part
I had to swap was the oil pan, the sump on one was at the back, the
other in the front. I can't remember which was which. Must be getting
old!

MERRY CHRISTMAS and HAPPY NEW YEAR from Brantford, Ontario, Canada!
Jim
1968 F100

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 06:52:50 -0800
From: "Scott Jensen" worldnet.att.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - RE: 76 F100

Howdy,

I've got the same truck, except mine has a 360. I did some work to the
rear diff a few years ago. It was a limited slip, 3.50. My experience has
been that posi's were put on 4x2's most of the time to help with field
work.
76's were one of the best years built, IMO. Chassis and frames were
still beefy and it's the year they started using front disk brakes. In 4WD
I've never gotten stuck. I'd like to think this is do to driving ability,
but realistically, it's probably the balance the F100 4x have. And I'm very
happy with the short turning radius. On the downside, I miss not having a
long box and I wish it could handle more weight. I once loaded the bed up
with broken up concrete curbing material. Up to a bit over the roofline.
Hence the diff work I had to do. I don't have an opinion yet on the single
speed, Spicer 21 transfer case. Granny's low enough not to need the low
range, for me anyway. And the rebuild kits are about half the price.
One thing I did last year, which I wish I had done years ago, was
replace the front springs. It only cost about 70 bucks and took just a
couple hours. Made a big difference.

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:17:27 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6

Can't tell if your rear diff is equipped with a limited slip device from the
info given. It is possible because it was an option. You might check for a
tag on the differential that could indicate this. Course after 23 years the
tag could have been removed too. Some others on the list know a method for
checking it that involves raising the rear end and turning a tire by hand.
I don't remember the specifics but one thing to remember here is that with a
23 year old diff it may have racked up enough miles to wear out the clutch
plates in a limited slip so their method may not be conclusive either. You
could always put the truck in a puddle of bleach water nail the gas and look
for white smoke on both sides of the truck ;0)

There are several sources for headers. Sanderson is one company as well as
PAW, Hooker and Headman.

I also have a 76 with a 390. It is a F-150 2WD. Welcome to the club and I
hope you find it helpful.

Tom H

> -----Original Message-----
> From: A Bernal [mailto:alejandrobernal hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:32 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - C4 or C6 on a 240 I6
>
>
> Hello all, I've got a question.
> I have a '76 f-100 4x4 390cid.
> Would my rear differential be a positive traction or not?
>
> It is using headers and 1 of the tubes has a little crack. I
> would like to
> know where can I find headers?
> Yes, I am new to the ford f-series world.
> I like it!
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 07:17:30 -0800
From: "Hogan, Tom" kla-tencor.com>
Subject: RE: FTE 61-79 - Re: Rough running when its cold and damp

See if you can find a stock air cleaner assy and the heat riser. Your
problem could be due to carb icing under cold moist condiditons. When the
gas is atomized some of it turns to vapor. This process absorbs heat and
can promote ice formation on the carb venturis. The warm air intake helps
prevent this until the engine warms up enough until it runs smoothly. You
should be able to pick one up cheap at a salvage yard. Use a piece of sheet
metal and hose clamps to form a stove around the headders. When looking
for an air cleaner Ford did offer units that were actuated by a thermal wax
element. These are easy to incorporate cause you don't have to route or
plumb any vacuum lines and if it doesn't work you can swap back very easy.

Are you in the San Francisco Bay area? Thought I saw that in an earlier
post, but I've slept since then. If so I do know of a couple of salvage
yards in San Jose.

Tom H.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck White [mailto:chuckebabe jps.net]
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 1999 10:38 AM
> To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
> Subject: FTE 61-79 - Re: Rough running when its cold and damp
>
>
> To Tom H- so far the choke has always performed correctly
> although the few
> times it has run rough as described I haven't whipped off the
> air cleaner to
> check at that time. I do not have a warm air doohickey as I
> am running
> headers and an aftermarket air cleaner. And to Lisa and Envy
> I always set
> up the choke before turning the key which is why I think more
> along the
> lines of moisture in the distributor cap. Keep giving me
> ideas people and
> we shall overcome!!!
>
> Thanks all, Chuck
>
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 09:36:56 -0600
From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Christmas Wishes, A story for my freinds, no FTE content

In a time, that to this day remains a mystery of the exact date, a young
married couple of the name Honnisori travelled across the land from their
home in Galilee to a small town in Judea called Bethlehem. This was to
fulfill a decree of Caesar Augustus that every man must appear in the flesh
at the place of his birth to be taxed. The husband Yosef was a strong,
young carpenter in a day when caprentry was carving and shaping more than
nailing. He was also a man of character and went upon the journey even
though the going at that particular time was quite difficult.

He was bewildered as to the set of circumstances he found himself in. His
betrothed, Maria, had suddenly presented herself as being with child. They
had never consummated their committment, and he knew Maria, that she was a
lady with honor, and was pure. He had also a strange dream, one that told
him to take Maria as his wife, that she was carrying the child of Yaweh, The
Unspeakable Name. This dream was so strong and purveyant that he could not
deny what he had seen and did it immediately to save Maria from any public
question of her purity.

He was now to be the surrogate father of the Messiah! "Surely the Messiah
would be raised in a kingly home," he must have been doubting to himself.
A family of carpenters to raise the savior of The People? It was
incredulous!

They arrived in Bethlehem, Maria so heavy with child that it's birth could
be at any time. They went from inn to inn, and found no room. One
innkeeper took pity on them and went about to make them a place in his small
barn out in the back. It will be warm there, with the animals to provide
heat, and soft straw to sleep on.

But, he was concerned about Maria and the child, would "the Messiah" be born
in a barn? Very soon the answer came, he was. He came into the world in
the surrounding of the earthy sound of livestock snuffling and shuffling
about, and the smell of animals and their warmth.

Yosef was further bewildered by the fact that people came to call that knew
of the signifigance of the birth of the child. A group of shepherds that
proclaimed that they had been called by an angel to come and bear witness.
And three Maggai from the east who brought salutary gifts of gold,
frankincense, and myrrh. He understood the gold and frankincense, as they
were of value to the living, but myrrh was a preservative for the dead. A
strange gift to bring to a child, he must have thought. What could be the
signifigance of this?

As they talked over the name of the the child, those around would have
assumed he would take a name in tradition of the father's family. But, on
the eighth day, at his circumcision, they proclaimed to those in witnesss
that his name was to be Yeshua. This must have stirred the people in
audience, as this was a very powerful name for a mere carpenter's son, a
name of many meanings and nuances from that ranged Teacher, to Savior.

So began the journey of the child who was called Yeshua Honnisori, the child
we now know as Jesus Christ.

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 10:36:05 EST
From: BDIJXS aol.com
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Transmission hum, NP435

Hey Jeff,

You might try pulling the inspection cover, start up the motor, and see if
the throwout bearing is turning while idling. I'm pretty sure you don't want
it to be turning at all until the pedal is depressed. What I'm saying is that
you may be able to "adjust out" your noise...it may just be the bearing
rattling against the clutch cover fingers or something. ...If you discover
that it is indeed something else, I would recommend having it rebuilt by a
pro.

I'm guessing it will cost in the $500 to $600 range....

One thing though, as I just had one built (out of a 76 F-150 4x4, which I'm
pretty sure is the exact same setup you have) is to bring along the adapter
housing between the tranny and the transfer case, meaning you'll need to drop
the 205 T/C as well (quite a bit of fun!). The reason for this is that the
adapter housing is what holds in the tranny output shaft in place, and there
is some bearing clearance (thrust clearance) somewhere that the rebuilder
needs to check during assembly.

Also, remember to fill it up with good 50WT engine oil after installation....

Hope this helps!

CJ



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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:02:53 PST
From: "George Litton" hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Batteries in Parallel

CJ,

Absolutely!! Anytime you hook batteries in parallel, you double the
amperage output, thereby reducing the "strain" that the starter applies to
the battery.

I didn't want to dual my batteries, so I went with a very large group 31 in
my '78 2WD that I use at the local racetrack. I can jumpstart as many
high-compression motors as I want without phasing my battery. 95 amp
alternator helps a lot, also.

Don't forget to build good cables, also. Kind of like a fire-hose, does no
good to have thousands of gallons of water, if you can only flow 50 GPM.
2/0 welding cable is very good for heavy-duty battery cable.

Good Luck!!

George Litton in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho
Merry Christmas


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>Reply-To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>To: 61-79-list ford-trucks.com
>Subject: FTE 61-79 - Batteries in Parallel
>Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:43:08 EST
>
>Will hooking up two 12V batteries directly in parallel affect their
>longevity???
>
>Assume both are brand new.
>
>CJ
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:29:50 EST
From: WEDIVE247 aol.com
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Christmas Wishes, A story for my freinds, no FTE content

Why did you change the real names ???
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 17:12:26 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie home.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Loose 205 shift lever

How do you guys keep the shift lever on your np205 T.C. tight. Mine
seems to get loose very quick when i shift between 2 and 4wd, especially
when going up into 4low. Cause when it gets loose the shifts are sloppy
and it rattle away like heck.

Thanks
Kirk Baillie
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:56:37 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Happy Holidays!

To All,
As we close in on the Santa Claus hours and pull our Ford Truck into the
garage for the Holiday, let us not forget what this day is all about.

It's about giving (not receiving), it's about caring for those less
fortunate than us, it's about helping those in need (such as the poor,
elderly, homeless and those just in immediate need - rich or poor), it's
about love, faith, fellowship, friendship and family, it's about putting
down the tools and closing the garage door and coming inside to spend a day
with those we love the most - those we share our daily lives with and those
whom make our lifes what they are today - our Family.

I have had little time to share with all of you this year due to the
demands in my job recently. But my digest gets read and hopefully I can
jump in and join you all again very soon.

I wish you all the best over this Christmas Day and even more in the new
Century!!!!!

Dan Herrmann

64' F100 Custom Cab
66' F100 Custom Cab
69' F100 Ranger
75' F150 Explorer
79' F150 Ranger XLT
92' F150 Custom (Daily driver)
92' Tempo GL (Wifes car - failed to start today ???)



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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:06:10 -0500
From: Dan Herrmann in-motion.net>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Lost FTE member


Part of the Holiday Season is remembering others whom we have come to know
over a period of time. I am looking for one of our long time and early FTE
members who I have not seen on the list forever. That person is: JOHN
MILLER the FoMoCo Nut.

Does anyone know what happened to him? His Email address is no longer any
good. Just thought some of you might know....

Thanks!

Dan Herrmann

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 20:47:07 -0600
From: Kirk Baillie home.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - 4wd power distribution

Hi I have a question about the operation of the 4wd system on my
truck. Its a 74 F250 with Dana 60's np205 transfer case, and a np 435
gearbox.For some reason i think the 4 wd is not working but when i test
the turning of the front dive shaft with in 4wd and hubs locked i cant
turn it so it should be working, and when i put it in 2wd and unlock
hubs it spins freely. The reason why i think there is a problem is
cause on the snow packed streets i can get the back wheels to spin
easily but i can get the front to spin. And also i was climbing a hill
today and the truck stopped back wheels spun but i dont think the fronts
were. What could this be????
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:20:32 -0500
From: Tim Anderson compuserve.com>
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Happy FTE Holidays!

Hello all,
Just thought I'd take a quick moment to wish
all of you a Happy Holiday Season. We've
made it through another year and are all, I
hope, a bit wiser and a bit more thankful than
ever. I'm looking forward to another great year
of FTE discussion in 2000.
Take care my friends,

Tim in Anchorage
'67 F-100 (Still Y2K compliant!) =

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Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:19:02 -0600
From: ballingr bootheel.net
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Accident Prone

I've blown myself up (brush pile), Dumped a full 5 gal gas can into the fire
we were trying to build (that was lots of fun :-)), Blew up a car when I cut
through the gas line, pulled a 40X120' 1850 vintage barn down on myself
(smashed the snot out of the fenders of the tractor I was on), Fell off of
helicopters, dumped horses and dirt bikes on myself, got chased down the
basement stairs by stud tired and large street motorcyles (very painful
experiences, both :-)), slid off the road at considerable speed in the snow
and ice, fallen off of ladders and walked away from it all with few scars
but.......there's always the next time....:-)
>>>>

Remind me not to stand next to you during a thunderstorm
:-)

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:52:50 -0800
From: "bronco66" teleport.com>
Subject: Re: FTE 61-79 - Accident Prone

how does that saying go? something like?

what is the last thing a male says before he dies?
"hey guys watch this!!!"

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From: bootheel.net>
To: Ford Truck Enthusiasts <61-79-list ford-trucks.com>
Sent: Friday, December 24, 1999 10:19 PM
Subject: FTE 61-79 - Accident Prone


> I've blown myself up (brush pile), Dumped a full 5 gal gas can into the
fire
> we were trying to build (that was lots of fun :-)), Blew up a car when I
cut
> through the gas line, pulled a 40X120' 1850 vintage barn down on myself
> (smashed the snot out of the fenders of the tractor I was on), Fell off of....


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